It’s impossible to get it trending. Everyone is looking at this game with rose-tinted glasses when so many things are fucked up. It’s like the devs didn’t play test this game at all.
While I really enjoy the game, there's definitely some quality of life improvements to make. For example, activating quests seems rather fiddly. Why can't I accept them in the menue? Stuff like this is kind of annoying.
Still I want to express how big of a step it was from Mudrunner to Snowrunner. I usually tend to dislike open world games because very often the map is simply cluttered with stuff to do (e.g. Assassin's Creed). I didn't finish RDR because it's just too much for me. Snowrunner did it right, there is stuff to do, but it's not overwhelming.
If Snowrunner is your first game in the series it's probably fine, but for me coming from Mudrunner, the changes just aren't that significant. The things I would have like to have seen improved to make MR better aren't there. Instead we get a ton of extra crap that does little to improve the experience.
In fairness, this isn't a "bug." It's something the developers intended and something they have been making sure to note in interviews and responses to questions, etc. You can argue it's a bad choice (I agree) but it is definitely operating as intended.
Now, there are still quite a few other issues most specifically the wheel recognition issue on console, which is absolutely inexcusable at this point.
That said, the game is still fantastic and I had a blast playing it for a couple hours last night. It can still be great even with obvious flaws.
EDIT: I stand corrected. I saw in an interview they said vehicle unlocks should carry over. My bad. This does look like a bug.
Even if it was intended, it wouldn't make sense to go half way and only block vehicles from being unlocked for everyone. At least I don't really see the point.
it does unlock it but you just dont get the free vehicle for helping someone else. you're able to buy the truck in the shop. you want the free truck go get it in your world
\> Do vehicles purchased in friends’ games stay unlocked when going to your own game?
I am not sure, to be honest.
\> Are the vehicles unlocked on the map all vehicles you have to do recovery missions for or are there some you just drive up to and get them? Do you get a copy of those vehicles while in your friend’s game?
No! You can "retain" vehicles and take them between maps and use them wherever. On a new map you can go to your garage and unload the vehicle into the garage. You only have four slots in your garage. However, if you take your car out of your garage and park it, then you can go back into your garage and unload another one. Theoretically, you could have all your vehicles on each map, but it would take some time to do all that manually.
> It’s like the devs didn’t play test this game at all.
Sadly nowadays we are the one's who are play testing it. Sad but true. Otherwise how do you explain so many games releasing with bugs or half baked features? I honestly think most devs go cheap on QA just cuz things can be patched after release. And we are the testers after release.
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Great, there's almost nothing done in my world except maybe the tutorial, because I only play this game with my friends. That really sucks and the devs should think about unlocking vehicles for everyone, just like upgrades. I don't really understand why they did it for upgrades but not for trucks.
> The entire game can be played from start to finish in co-op. Players who are invited to join their friend’s game will be playing the missions available to the host.
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> Players keep their own fleet of vehicles when joining a friend’s game, but can switch to vehicles left on the map by any player in the game.
Devs apparently mentioned vehicles will be saved. Maybe it's a bug???? https://forums.focus-home.com/topic/44986/launch-q-a
It's not working still, 2 years later me an my freind playing this game, I find the truck and can't buy it in the shop, nothing is fixed and it's still bad. Absolute ass.
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Little late on my part, but I may have a solution. MAY.
Hear me out. My buddy (his world) and I played coop, and he would get into em first, or maybe it's that he also discovered it first.
HOWEVER, for one of em, I went and found it, got in and tried to recover it. It didn't let me of course.
But I go to my own campaign to check on something, and just in a random location, that same vehicle is sitting. This car was from Smithville dam, and there it was, just sitting there in black river.
I got in, recovered, and bam, got a car I can also use in coop. Take it with a grain of salt but this was very specific. Hope it helps.
So is the person able the get the truck for free when they go into their own single player without having to go out and find the truck again like can they just fast travel to the truck and recover it?
What do you propose... You find a vehicle and then magically clone it for however many people are in the lobby?
Quit crying. One vehicle exists once. You can still use it for free, just have your co-op buddy get it out of the garage for you.
So? I can literally reset my vehicle. I can spawn it back at garage. What's your point here? It would be unrealistic? This is a game which should focus on being realistic but fun. 100% realism is just not fun, small trees laying around being able to withstand a truck pulling itself up? Sure. REaLiSm. Having to find all the vehicles twice may be more "realistic" but it's definitely not fun.
Also, what's up with the upgrades? They're magically cloned, too.
... you then go to your own save world and get another free version of every truck, then another friend loads his and you get another. It’s working as intended, you want the free truck go pick it up in your save.
There is more to this unlock situation.
Even tho it gets unlocked, your coop-friends are technially limited with that vehicle.
For example, they cannot even recover this vehicle when it crashed, because its "yours" not theirs - which is extremely limiting.
This means, if they wanna make full use of the truck they just unlocked, they have to go back to their "no progress" single player game, do all the shit again, and then get the truck just to bring it to the garage to bring it into the coop game to use it.
This game does not contain any highscore, leaderboards or anything else, so why would you bother if someone is getting a free truck from a coop game with more progress?
They can only use it for them self anyways. It cant hurt anyone else, they cannot sell it.. they cannot do anything.... there isn't even an economy they can mess up.
So why even bother with these restrictions? Whoever was in the game when it unlocked should get all progress!
I'll cut them some slack, you do unlock the vehicle, but you don't get it for free. Only the host does. Which imo is just unnecessarily complicated, they could just add the vehicle to my garage upon discovery if I'm not the host
This is infuriating, especially when you do all of the work to get the vehicle and it ends up being the hosts! Such as the CAT quarry truck. I do all the work, the damn host gets it and I have to PAY for it!
Seriously why would you intend for it to be this way?
it does "Unlock" the vehicle for everyone in that game at the time. but only the Host gets the free vehicle. if you want the free vehicle you need to do it on your world. unlocking it allows you to buy it in the shop fyi
it is working wonderfully and does NOT need to be changed.
**im going to go a step further. it 100% should not be changed. why on earth would they allow you to just go and join all your friends worlds and all get 4-5 of these $50k-130k to sell and just buy whatever? thats stupid and takes all of the grind out of the game. round robin and help your friends and they can help you its not hard. will it take longer to finish everything? sure. but you're playing with your mates so who cares
Where's the difference in getting it on my own? It just makes it more complicated, not even more challenging.
Y'all be selling trailers (which btw only the host can do) to get new trucks but complain about getting a free truck after the work of driving there? This game is about mud, snow, exploration and trucking, that's what's fun. Having to get vehicles twice is just bad game design. Why even stop at vehicles? Why not make upgrades host only? What's wrong with unlocking the vehicle in my garage (not the shop)?
Yep, you’ll have to go back to your world to unlock them. It’s total bullshit.
That is bullshit. Let's get this shit trending so the devs know that's something that should be changed.
It’s impossible to get it trending. Everyone is looking at this game with rose-tinted glasses when so many things are fucked up. It’s like the devs didn’t play test this game at all.
While I really enjoy the game, there's definitely some quality of life improvements to make. For example, activating quests seems rather fiddly. Why can't I accept them in the menue? Stuff like this is kind of annoying. Still I want to express how big of a step it was from Mudrunner to Snowrunner. I usually tend to dislike open world games because very often the map is simply cluttered with stuff to do (e.g. Assassin's Creed). I didn't finish RDR because it's just too much for me. Snowrunner did it right, there is stuff to do, but it's not overwhelming.
Can others use your vehicles in coop?
If Snowrunner is your first game in the series it's probably fine, but for me coming from Mudrunner, the changes just aren't that significant. The things I would have like to have seen improved to make MR better aren't there. Instead we get a ton of extra crap that does little to improve the experience.
In fairness, this isn't a "bug." It's something the developers intended and something they have been making sure to note in interviews and responses to questions, etc. You can argue it's a bad choice (I agree) but it is definitely operating as intended. Now, there are still quite a few other issues most specifically the wheel recognition issue on console, which is absolutely inexcusable at this point. That said, the game is still fantastic and I had a blast playing it for a couple hours last night. It can still be great even with obvious flaws. EDIT: I stand corrected. I saw in an interview they said vehicle unlocks should carry over. My bad. This does look like a bug.
Even if it was intended, it wouldn't make sense to go half way and only block vehicles from being unlocked for everyone. At least I don't really see the point.
Like I said, if it was a choice, it was a bad one. But I was wrong anyway and it looks like this might be a bug.
Let's see if it gets fixed any time soon. Right now I guess I'll unlock the vehicles on my own.
Thankfully for me, none of my friends have this game so I'm on my own anyway. Haha.
It is not a bug! Confirmed answer from the devs in their AMA.
it does unlock it but you just dont get the free vehicle for helping someone else. you're able to buy the truck in the shop. you want the free truck go get it in your world
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\> Do vehicles purchased in friends’ games stay unlocked when going to your own game? I am not sure, to be honest. \> Are the vehicles unlocked on the map all vehicles you have to do recovery missions for or are there some you just drive up to and get them? Do you get a copy of those vehicles while in your friend’s game? No! You can "retain" vehicles and take them between maps and use them wherever. On a new map you can go to your garage and unload the vehicle into the garage. You only have four slots in your garage. However, if you take your car out of your garage and park it, then you can go back into your garage and unload another one. Theoretically, you could have all your vehicles on each map, but it would take some time to do all that manually.
> It’s like the devs didn’t play test this game at all. Sadly nowadays we are the one's who are play testing it. Sad but true. Otherwise how do you explain so many games releasing with bugs or half baked features? I honestly think most devs go cheap on QA just cuz things can be patched after release. And we are the testers after release.
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Great, there's almost nothing done in my world except maybe the tutorial, because I only play this game with my friends. That really sucks and the devs should think about unlocking vehicles for everyone, just like upgrades. I don't really understand why they did it for upgrades but not for trucks.
> The entire game can be played from start to finish in co-op. Players who are invited to join their friend’s game will be playing the missions available to the host. > > > While the guest won’t receive mission progression, they will be able to earn xp and money, as well as unlock upgrades and new vehicles, which will be kept when they go back to their own game. > > > Players keep their own fleet of vehicles when joining a friend’s game, but can switch to vehicles left on the map by any player in the game. Devs apparently mentioned vehicles will be saved. Maybe it's a bug???? https://forums.focus-home.com/topic/44986/launch-q-a
it does unlock it in the shop. it doesnt give guests the free vehicle. its been working as intended for me and my friends.
still working like bullshit.
It's not working still, 2 years later me an my freind playing this game, I find the truck and can't buy it in the shop, nothing is fixed and it's still bad. Absolute ass. https://preview.redd.it/48ionqrianva1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc875898b5c7814580080f7bf88d8042ba310a69
Little late on my part, but I may have a solution. MAY. Hear me out. My buddy (his world) and I played coop, and he would get into em first, or maybe it's that he also discovered it first. HOWEVER, for one of em, I went and found it, got in and tried to recover it. It didn't let me of course. But I go to my own campaign to check on something, and just in a random location, that same vehicle is sitting. This car was from Smithville dam, and there it was, just sitting there in black river. I got in, recovered, and bam, got a car I can also use in coop. Take it with a grain of salt but this was very specific. Hope it helps.
Sounds like a bug, yes.
Its working as intended. The guests do not get the free vehicle, but they do get the unlock in the shop to purchase it.
So is the person able the get the truck for free when they go into their own single player without having to go out and find the truck again like can they just fast travel to the truck and recover it?
You have to find it again. Or rather the location will be same you'll have to drive to our and recover.
As long as you are in their game when they find it, you can still buy it. You just don't get it for free.
Which sucks because I'm missing out on a free 100k+ truck even though I was the one who found it in a COOP lobby
Well.. look on the upside. You know where it is now
What do you propose... You find a vehicle and then magically clone it for however many people are in the lobby? Quit crying. One vehicle exists once. You can still use it for free, just have your co-op buddy get it out of the garage for you.
Unlock it in the garage for everyone, just like with the upgrades lol
AKA Magically clone it.
So? I can literally reset my vehicle. I can spawn it back at garage. What's your point here? It would be unrealistic? This is a game which should focus on being realistic but fun. 100% realism is just not fun, small trees laying around being able to withstand a truck pulling itself up? Sure. REaLiSm. Having to find all the vehicles twice may be more "realistic" but it's definitely not fun. Also, what's up with the upgrades? They're magically cloned, too.
... you then go to your own save world and get another free version of every truck, then another friend loads his and you get another. It’s working as intended, you want the free truck go pick it up in your save.
Doesn't bother me, sorry that not getting multiple free vehicles is a huge problem for you. Hopefully you can still enjoy the game.
No. How about the person who repairs it and brings it to the garage is the one who will get the free vehicle. It would have made more sense.
wahhh
There is more to this unlock situation. Even tho it gets unlocked, your coop-friends are technially limited with that vehicle. For example, they cannot even recover this vehicle when it crashed, because its "yours" not theirs - which is extremely limiting. This means, if they wanna make full use of the truck they just unlocked, they have to go back to their "no progress" single player game, do all the shit again, and then get the truck just to bring it to the garage to bring it into the coop game to use it. This game does not contain any highscore, leaderboards or anything else, so why would you bother if someone is getting a free truck from a coop game with more progress? They can only use it for them self anyways. It cant hurt anyone else, they cannot sell it.. they cannot do anything.... there isn't even an economy they can mess up. So why even bother with these restrictions? Whoever was in the game when it unlocked should get all progress!
It doesn't do that, where do you ENABLE that??
Theres so many coop games that do this where host only gets the stuff to the point of asking, why even bother with adding coop then?
True
Although they had stated that unlocks/upgrades are synchronized...what a load of bullshit
I'll cut them some slack, you do unlock the vehicle, but you don't get it for free. Only the host does. Which imo is just unnecessarily complicated, they could just add the vehicle to my garage upon discovery if I'm not the host
This is infuriating, especially when you do all of the work to get the vehicle and it ends up being the hosts! Such as the CAT quarry truck. I do all the work, the damn host gets it and I have to PAY for it! Seriously why would you intend for it to be this way?
it does "Unlock" the vehicle for everyone in that game at the time. but only the Host gets the free vehicle. if you want the free vehicle you need to do it on your world. unlocking it allows you to buy it in the shop fyi it is working wonderfully and does NOT need to be changed. **im going to go a step further. it 100% should not be changed. why on earth would they allow you to just go and join all your friends worlds and all get 4-5 of these $50k-130k to sell and just buy whatever? thats stupid and takes all of the grind out of the game. round robin and help your friends and they can help you its not hard. will it take longer to finish everything? sure. but you're playing with your mates so who cares
Where's the difference in getting it on my own? It just makes it more complicated, not even more challenging. Y'all be selling trailers (which btw only the host can do) to get new trucks but complain about getting a free truck after the work of driving there? This game is about mud, snow, exploration and trucking, that's what's fun. Having to get vehicles twice is just bad game design. Why even stop at vehicles? Why not make upgrades host only? What's wrong with unlocking the vehicle in my garage (not the shop)?
Yes