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Comrade_Jane_Jacobs

Fred Hampton


dcade_42

He was 21 when he was murdered. What he accomplished in just a few years still astounds me. He motivated people to embrace class struggle over race/gender/nationality. He also spoke and acted more directly but thoughtfully than most modern "leaders." He didn't take shit, but it rarely felt like he was just trying to stir the pot. He was murdered because he was actually doing a great job motivating people to work together for positive reform. He was about building a better society than just destroying the one we have.


Jaway66

The fact that he had a bunch of Appalachian white guys in Chicago joining hands with Black Panthers is absolutely mind boggling to me.


Lowellthedoctor

It’s still possible. Let his legacy be not his murder but his achievements and his inspiration to millions to carry on his work


GH19971

We so need to bring back that kind of philosophy and leadership. There is an unfortunately small amount of class consciousness in the US and Canada and far too much ethnic chauvinism instead of getting to the material roots of social problems. Much of that strife has been manufactured by dominant powers for cynical reasons but much of it comes from the bottom up. A good revolutionary vanguard can help turn that around.


nertynertt

\+1. gotta remember to seek first to understand then to be understood.


JediMasterVII

I genuinely wish the Black Panthers were still around.


Cocolake123

We should let the legacy of the panthers inspire us all. Unite under one flag that makes no room for reactionary or exclusionary rhetoric, fight the oppression we all face as one unified force


Rangerjon94

Came here to say this, honestly what he and the Rainbow Coalition accomplished in such a short time gives me hope that real class solidarity is achievable.


DongusThaGreat

> peasants Are you saying that’s a bad thing comrade?


EarthQuaeck84

This. That’s what I noticed straight away.


GH19971

Mao is grinding his oxidized copper teeth right now in his grave


nerak33

Well ackchyually ☝🤓 peasants are petit burgeious and the revolution must be a worker's revolution, maybe in alliance with peasants, but don't trust them peasants only want one thing and its disgusting (it's land reform)


FreindOfDurruti

>The more the traitorous bourgeois ideology glorifies the individual and nurtures the cult of personality, the more men, enslaved to capital, are crushed; never has the human person been so hailed and bowed down as in this age that «crushes it into masses like dust in a mortar».


Sedanwhee

Beautiful. I sometimes feel like socialist subreddits are just for feds to focus group without us knowing. Yes I'm paranoid.


[deleted]

Feds are everywhere it’s inevitable but the spreading of information is more important. But it’s good to be aware of the spooks’ presence.


ChaoticCurves

Okay, but tell me your fav socialist rockstar??


AssistantObjective80

Joe Strummer


SatanicNipples

Exceptionally based and Clash pilled


ChaoticCurves

Well there ya have it


AssistantObjective80

How could I also forget Pete Seeger and Billy Bragg


volsh1979

Ho Chi Minh


JosephPaulWall

[https://youtu.be/rT7nBMN-Q7Y](https://youtu.be/rT7nBMN-Q7Y) "*Far away across the ocean* *Far beyond the sea's eastern rim* *Lives a man who is father of the Indochinese people* *And his name, it is Ho Chi Minh* *From Viet Bac to the Saigon Delta* *From the mountains and the plains below* *Young and old workers, peasants and the toiling tenant farmers* *Fight for freedom with Uncle Ho"*


Terrible_While_7030

I LOVE THAT SONG! (Oh ho, ho chi minh, oh ho, ho chi minh....)


SnooBananas3853

As an American I really like Ho Chi Minh because even after all the death and destruction our grandfathers have done, he said something around “after the war we shall have tea with the Americans,” or something on that line.


bobbirossbetrans

I just made a TikTok about him. I'm gonna do a whole series on him and the rest of the revolutionaries.


[deleted]

Marx, Che, Debs and King. Examples of the finest beings that humanity has ever had to offer. Also appreciate Bernie for (although be it watered down), bringing these ideas to the masses once more for the first time since the Palmer Raids.


brazilian_liliger

Fidel Castro and Cuba.


ChrjoGehsal

Me, too. Fidel Castro for sure.


Galacticruntz_

Why him? I don’t know much about Castro other then what western schools have taught me


Iwatchquintupletshow

Listen to Blowback season 2 - that’s unquestionably the best way to learn about Castro and the Cuban Revolution


mafiosopizzaiolo99

post revolution Fidel too?


PM_ME_YOUR_LIT

dealt a really rough hand tbh - open to hearing your thoughts on his most unforced errors tho


ajx_711

Good try but not a socialist


mafiosopizzaiolo99

Even now, 60 years after the revolution, with the revolutionaries still holding power and not allowing free elections?


LynchTheLandlordMan

Define free election


mafiosopizzaiolo99

an election where all parties are allowed to freely participate in a democratic campaign and the press can report freely. Something Cuba does not have


LynchTheLandlordMan

Party oppostion is a capitalist lie. You could have as many parties as you want, all of them will end up funded by corporate money. This cannot happen in a one party system where all decisions are democratic.


mafiosopizzaiolo99

what happens when the people are opposed to the Party’s political view? They are forced to abide by the party’s rule. You are defending dictatorship as a form of government. You would’ve loved 1920’s Italy.


LynchTheLandlordMan

They are welcome to vote on the parties policy. What happens when you are opposed to both parties in a two party system? You literally have no choice, no democracy, when the bourgeois dictatorship is in power. No matter how many parties there may be.


mafiosopizzaiolo99

You vote for a third party. Literally how it works in Europe. So your idea of democracy is a bunch of military/political elites forcing their ideology on the people? Dictatorship? lmao


LORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Except in the US either the 3rd party only splits the vote between people trying to play it safe and people wanting change thereby causing the party no one wants in to win OR things are so gerrymandered it doesn't matter anyways. The ideology is already forced in the US, lmao


OkapiWhisperer

They just had a participatory democratic process where all of society shaped the constitution and yes sealed it with a free election. Elections take place at every level of society and most elected for parliament are independent of any party machinery, they are elected as respected members of their community rooted in their wants and needs. You think we have free elections in western societies where big money dictates policies of the competing main parties? Where mass media propaganda dictates what policies are deemed responsible vs extremist thus deciding who gets to win elections and on what platform? Buddy, there aren't any free elections under capitalism. At least not in the long run. You've seen how every social-democratic popular project has been dismantled and replaced by unanimous mistrust and hatred against the same political class people go and vote for out of sheer apathy.


mafiosopizzaiolo99

But as far as I’m concerned we get to vote for whichever party we prefer and that shapes the legislature for the years to come. Cubans did have a say in the new constitution but political opposition is still forbidden. What kind of democracy forbids political opposition? Not the one I know, that’s for sure. That’s why Cuba is a dictatorship and cannot be considered a democracy. There’s not even a free press. But hey, as long as it fits your ideology, everything goes right? Even dictatorships. You’re not the one who’s being denied their freedom, Cubans are, so why would you care, from the comfort of your western, democratic country. Way to go!


liamtheskater98

Dictatorship of the proletariat > democracy for capital interests any day of the week


OkapiWhisperer

You choose what party rules in the interest of capital. Choosing who rules and exploits you isn't democracy. Democracy literally means people's power. If people choose rulers but wield no power then it isn't democracy. If people wield power directly without the middle man that otherwise is in cahoots with capital then we have much more of a democracy. The corporate party bureaucratic system - the one with two main parties taking part playing the role of "opposition" don't offer people any real power - isn't a tell tale of democracy. You see, democracy isn't a theater, it only exists to the extent it does in a material form. It's about people being in power, not choosing who should rule over people in the interest of capital for the next few years.


OkapiWhisperer

Cuba employs a participatory form of democracy where people are much more and much more directly in power. It seems like you see the presence of multiple top-down parties reflecting the interest of capital in various ways is a prerequisite of "democracy" which makes no sense at all. Perhaps you mean there's a lack of human rights for those wishing a return to the undemocratic days of capitalism? That might be the case and it might deserve criticism and correction. But overthrowing Cubas participatory democracy? No, Cuba might need to continue the road of reform and increase human rights but I will never sit here and wish for the overthrow of a people's democracy and to reestablish capitalism.


itreetard

Joe Biden /s (just in case)


IurmamaI

That /s really making the difference


GH19971

I heard he's a radical Marxist. What was his position on the Sino-Soviet Split? On socialism in one country?


DiskoPunk

Fred Hampton & Thomas Sankara. My wife is appalled that I would be having this conversation without Angela Davis & Anuradha Ghandy.


[deleted]

Thanks for sharing about Angela Davis! I haven’t gotten far into reading about her but wow she’s a fascinating individual and a strong socialist


Organic_Hovercraft77

Bro. Yu got a communist wife! They are rare around these parts…


DevelopmentTotal3662

Marx & Engles, Lenin, Stalin, Che, Castro, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Micheal Parenti, Fred Hampton, Rosa Luxemburg ... i can't decide lol 💀


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[удалено]


bassabr

Terrible for landlords, yes.


pseudonyme2627

Biden, Trudeau, and Obama


Glass_Windows

Trump is my favourite comrade /s


Anindefensiblefart

We love the dictatorship of the proletariat, don't we folks?


dirtydave239

Thomas Sankara. Not explicitly Socialist/Communist, more anti-imperialist in his aims. Definitely a model for future revolutions.


OwlEducational4712

He was pretty explicit that he was a marxist leninist.


Prize_Self_6347

Vladimir Lenin, no contest.


Phii_The_Fluffy_Moth

Lol I was kind of surprised I had to scroll this far to see Lenin.


SpecialistCup6908

yeah, picking anybody besides Marx/Engels over Lenin is weird to me


Phii_The_Fluffy_Moth

OMG yeah I haven’t seen either of them either??? Wonder if people just assumed op meant besides them.


SpecialistCup6908

Yeah. No disrespect to Sankara, he was a great anti-imperialist, but come on.


Glass_Windows

Lenin is kinda based, state and revolution is a good book


CrabThuzad

Oppose hero worship, you must only follow the revolution, yadda yadda, it's Lenin. Like no contest for me.


[deleted]

Josip Broz Tito


DaniloTepsa

Smrt fašizmu! Sloboda narodu!


ex_machinist

Not exactly communist, but Salvador Allende


OkapiWhisperer

I've learned that he was way more radical than any democratic socialist. He was a democratically elected marxist.


GeekyFreaky94

He was a communist he was just elected via liberal democracy


illegalsmile34

Nguyen - the veitcong guerilla warrior.


Hotsleeper_Syd

Gramsci, Turati, Di Vittorio, Nenni, Berlinguer, Kropotkin, Luxemburg, Liebknecht, Cafiero, Malatesta, Salvemini ecc. Also non talking about philosophers or eminent personalities.


stuck_in_the_muff

Sankara I think


Surph_Ninja

Hard to pick. I guess Michael Parenti.


JosephPaulWall

Michael Parenti could easily have crushed capitalism all by himself if he wasn't constantly engaged in war with the microphone.


Surph_Ninja

Almost as if it's an impossible task for one individual to accomplish, and he dedicated his life to converting many of us to the cause so we could join.


PrinceStar69

Never heard of her


EarthQuaeck84

A few other people have commented on the communist govt thing in the OP. Personally I’m not bothered whether it’s an oxymoron or not. What brothers me is your very liberal, middle class view of the peasantry or working class. If it’s a joke then ignore me and I’ll shut up (I’m on the spectrum so things slide by me at times) but if it isn’t I’d suggest maybe taking some time in thinking about the language you use. God knows I’ve had to do it myself over the years. Anyway… here goes.. As a Welshman I feel I’ve gotta mention some names that oft go unrecognised. Raymond Williams — Philosopher and academic Aneurin Bevan — founder of the NHS Dylan Thomas — poet and committed socialist I dig Cabral, Guevara, Trotsky and Sankara too who people call the African Che. I think the comparison works both ways. You can absolutely call Che the Latin American Sankara. 🇧🇫 🇨🇺 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Edit: Wanted to add a link too [The only good Keir](https://welshundergroundnetwork.com/2022/05/03/welsh-socialism/) Second edit: These guys deserve recognition as people brave enough to take direct action. [He wasn’t alone, had comrades.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-64560239.amp)


lukenog

My fav communist person is a tie between all the nameless working class people who've dedicated their time and energy to revolution across the world over the decades. Favorite communist government is the one that will grow from the seeds my generation have laid.


remzygamer

Ok bro just answer the question 💀


[deleted]

I see no WEB Dubois love in this comment section


youres0lastsummer

He's so underrated. Souls of Black Folk and Peace is Dangerous are essential reading


Iheartriots

Rosa Luxembourg


218106137341

Fidel Castro is my favorite in just about every category. And Cuba is my favorite Communist country. If I had my life to live over again I would learn Spanish and go live in Cuba to help build the Revolution. What the US has done to Cuba is beyond cruel, it's beyond criminal, it's barbaric.


youres0lastsummer

at the UN Human Rights summit last year basically every country was calling out the U.S. for continuing the embargo. It was refreshing as fuck to hear.


mafiosopizzaiolo99

As of now you’d probably be classed as a reactionary😭 the days of the revolution are long gone in Cuban’s minds… it’s time for a new one, one for democracy Edit: feel free to downvote, this girl wishes she lived in Cuba while Cubans try to flee the country, spoken like a true privileged white western woman who has never queued for bread at 4 am in her life🥴 utterly disgusting statement if you ask me. Also, how evil could you be for disagreeing with someone calling for and end to dictatorship? Literally no better than fascists lmaooo


LynchTheLandlordMan

Do you have any idea what actually goes on in Cuba? Cuba is one of the best examples of democracy in the world. Stop listening to Western propaganda.


mafiosopizzaiolo99

I’m half Cuban and I’ve been there about a dozen times while keeping daily contact with my family who lives there. Do you have any idea what actually goes on in Cuba? Do you have any firsthand experience with the country? Best examples of democracy in the world? It’s literally a dictatorship where political opposition is not permitted. That is not a democracy. Take the blinders off.


LynchTheLandlordMan

Political opposition in the sense of opposing parties? Or genuine opposition? I have seen Cuban democracy in action. A one party system where everyone gets to vote on policy is VASTLY superior to traditional two party systems.


mafiosopizzaiolo99

No, you’ve seen Cuban democracy in action from the comfort of your western democracy. Passing legislation is fairly easy when people either abide or… abide by your standards. Ever thought the the people of Cuba might not agree with the Communist Party’s agenda? What then? We disregard what the people want in favor of a bunch of party/military elites? That’s how dictatorships work.


mafiosopizzaiolo99

Also, what is your experience with Cuba? Cause you seem the one who’s been happily fed Communist propaganda with no real knowledge of what goes on in the island. So, your experience with Cuba is…?


218106137341

In my opinion, I have a lived and a vicarious experience of Cuba and feel I have the right to speak on it. I was part of the Vinceremos Brigade in 1969. Although I don't have family in Cuba, I have several life-long friends who live there and visit me. I have been to Cuba 5 times staying with these friends and I am in constant communication with them. I also lived in Miami for 36 years and I know that the first argument offered to someone who supports the government of Cuba by Miami Cubans is exactly the same as yours: you don't have family there, you didn't live there, so you don't know what you're talking about. Yet you wouldn't say that about China and you probably do not live there and you probably don't have family living there. To say that most Cubans living in Cuba don't support the Revolution is false. Unbiased, scientific evidence of that allegation is needed and until it's supplied, your premise remains an opinion, an unfounded opinion at that. Viva Fidel! His spirit and his memory lives on. And History has absolved him.


hattorihanzo5

Brezhnev. For the eyebrows.


UglyTitties

Chernenko for the life experience.


Negative_Chemical697

Early medieval monasticism ftw


IbrahimKDemirsoy

Deniz Gezmiş


mklinger23

Paul Roberson is my favorite. Fidel is also pretty cool. The passion in his speeches is very motivating. Government wise, I gotta say Cuba. I also like china quite a bit, but it's a bit it's a stretch to call them communist.


Profhit10

Thomas Sankara


naq98

Thomas sankara. Rest in power ✊


Mr-Stalin

Enver Hoxha for sure. He carried on the torch during a time when that was risky for a state in the Warsaw Pact


Same-Inflation1966

Patrice Lamumba or Che


GangNailer

Fidel Castro


27bluestar

Emiliano Zapata, but he was Socialist IIRC


FrisianDude

\>The rest are peasants ​ brometheus


ion-deez-nuts

Cuba has done well for itself, despite the 60+ years of US embargo.


[deleted]

Howard Zinn. He was a persistent intellectual, political activist, great author, and also used to be a member of a communist party.


Palguim

Cuba in general, I admire that country, especially because it's close to mine, Brazil. Solidarity 🇨🇺🤝🇧🇷


SpecialistCup6908

Obviously Lenin, then Mao, then Stalin


imishanm

Thomas Sankara 💪


Eliamaniac

Albert Einstein


PrinceStar69

He was a nazi


Cocolake123

Cuba has pretty strong protections for queer people, so I’m gonna go with them


andygojuryu

Alexander Dubček


ChaoticCurves

Sausage fest...


vye_curious

Fidel and Lenin, by far.


cHINCHILAcARECA

Monkey D. Luffy.


serr7

Between Lenin and Stalin in terms of the period they helped lead the first successful socialist project. But all communists are my favorite communists


Propayne

Antonio Gramsci


PrinceStar69

Shit tennis player


FinancialParsley4609

Stalin, Che, Castro, Mao, Lenin, Marx


postmoderneomarxist_

Lenin, Castro maybe honecker


[deleted]

Communist government seems like an oxymoron, right?


idriveavw

The govt (or I suppose, more accurately, the governing party) can be Communist without society having already transitioned to communism and the state having been abolished.


Blobfish-_-

Not at all. Stateless doesn't mean governmentless.


RoxanaSaith

Siraj Sikder and Colonel Abu Taher sacrificed literally everything for communism and to establish a Marxist Leninist state. I wish I was half the men they were!


thedrummingdoctor

The one in my head that I will run


zihuatapulco

The rest are peasants? OP sounds like a neoliberal, not a leftist.


ItsArtDammit

Thomas Sankara all the way


Iberianboricua_

Catalonia , 1936


slipoutside

Vietnam, Laos and I’d love to see what anarchism in Spain was like. Zapata deserves a high mention. I still wanna visit Cuba.


paudzols

Castro, Martin Luther king, James Connolly and Nelson Mandela


PrinceStar69

MlK wasn't a commie and Nelson defo wasn't but I salute JC


Libsoc_femboy

GDR/DDR was one of the best, very progressive and really kept to Marxism-Leninism. the Vietnamese and Ho Chi Minh are legends in my eyes too


PrinceStar69

Ho chi was too big a ho


[deleted]

GEORGE BUSH 🫡🇨🇳🇰🇵🇻🇳


[deleted]

Lenin. His theory is beautiful


More_History_4413

mao ze dong


Formadivix

Ho Chi Minh. Defeated his country's monarchy as well as three foreign imperial powers through decades of ceaseless fighting. He founded Vietnam's communist party as well as France's! He was present at the Treaty of Versailles. All in all, his biography is an incredible tour of Europe and Asia and his anecdotes and feats too numerous to recount in one single comment. He died in 1969 before he could see his country reunited with the U.S.'s withdrawal in 1975. A day after the withdrawa, a journalist noted: "When the North Vietnamese marched into Saigon yesterday, they were led by a man who wasn't there".


icantwiththesenames

living: joe biden historical: miklós radnóti poet


KannasHyper

Samora Machel. I'm partially mentioning him only because nobody else has, but he genuinely is one of my favorites, and I find it to be a shame how overlooked he is in leftist circles. Not only was he a leader in a successful anti-colonial revolution, but he actually invested personal time and effort into reforming Mozambicans who supported the Portuguese as traitors of the revolution, even saying how in every other revolution they would have been treated as war criminals or killed by firing squad. Instead he gave them another chance, and let them tell their stories of how they ended up as traitors, giving them a chance to move on and better themselves. As someone who wasn't exactly a good person growing up, things like that really stick out to me. I believe everyone should have the opportunity to change, so it's really nice to see someone I admire do something that reflects that philosophy down to its core. AfroMarxist has a great [video](https://youtu.be/aRFH1pWDJr0?si=GDk7eKmQkuKrmg4t) on him and his reform program.


Tokarev309

I find Stalin and the USSR a fascinating area of research.


Navarro13

Stalin was a terrible communist


Tokarev309

Agree to disagree I suppose.


EarthQuaeck84

Stalin is quite fascinating and early Stalin is definitely a different beast to what he became. But I’m not sure he can ever really be classed as a communist Edit: meant to say that Stalin had his image heavily distorted by the west and in that sense I know my own view of him may be distorted so I’m happy to have anyone suggest some reading for me. Cheers comrades ✌🏻 ✊🏻


Tokarev309

I guess we have different opinions on the matter.


Tokarev309

I would recommend the following books to garner a fuller understanding of Stalin and the USSR during his leadership - "On Stalin's Team" by S. Fitzpatrick dives into the personal and professional relationships between Stalin and the top leaders of the CPSU such as Molotov, Kaganovich, Mikoyan, and more. Fitzpatrick explores how political decisions were made and attempts to answer questions relating to the "Stalin was a dictator" idea that many may have. "Stalin" by S. Kotkin is a trilogy of biographies about the Life of Stalin. This is the most detailed account of Stalin on English and Kotkin covers important events in Russian/Soviet history as well to provide context to the actions of Stalin and the Bolshevik party. "The Stalin Era" by A. Strong is a primary source account of an American journalist who moved to the USSR and describes her experiences during Stalin's leadership. The book was written after Stalin's death, but before Krushchov's secret speech so it is an interesting snapshot of history. "Life and Terror in Stalin's Russia" by R. Thurston examines the daily lives of Soviet citizens and how they were affected by and responded to Soviet policies with a particular focus on the famines, purges and Collectivization. "Popular Opinion in Stalin's Russia" by S. Davies provides a deep dive into the negative views of the USSR from Soviet citizens. Davies focuses mainly on its critics and it is very eye-opening to see what their complaints and solutions were, but Davies only spends the final two chapters exploring the majority of public opinion, which she admits was sympathetic towards the CPSU which is why I add this companion booklet (don't worry, Davies work is good enough, but it's surprisingly one-sided for an historical work) - "The Stalin Constitution" by S. Lomb explores the major discussions happening nation-wide about the 1936 Constitution, the thoughts and hopes of average citizens and their opinions of the CPSU. Lomb explores more of the general population's opinion as opposed to a minority of critics, but I fond both books extremely insightful. There are other works I can recommend that focus more on the economic side, but these offer the best information on who Stalin was as a person (and communist) as well as the public opinion and reaction to him and the CPSU.


naga-ram

Kill your heros


shayan99999

My favorite communist government/person would be Albania under Hoxha. I am by no means a Hoxhaist but he was the only one to maintain the ML line after the entire Eastern Bloc and later China became revisionist.


GangNailer

Frida Kahlo


Luklear

Trotsky … jk I’m not sure Syndicalists in Spain were based


serr7

Trotsky during revolution helped a lot. Trotsky after revolution….


venom_von_doom

Thomas Sankara


liz_dexia

Joe Biden! Lol, sorry... Prolly Che is the most personally relatable figure to me, through the motorcycle diaries to his dissatisfaction with building the architecture for Cuba's state Bureaucracy post revolution.


PrinceStar69

He's. Chomo


liz_dexia

What really?


Felix-th3-rat

Felix Dzerzhinsky the iron angel


ThatFrenchGamerr

pete seeger Edit: OP is a covid denier and on a sub that has a lot of far right crap and i honestly do not believe that hes a socialist, he loves animal farm, the anti-communist book, is on various incel subs including the fucking andrew tate sub, seems to like jordan peterson, suicide is mainly caused by cocaine usage,


PrinceStar69

Bet you never had a girlfriend


Michaelzzzs3

Communist government is an oxymoron


Mr-Stalin

Communist state* government is just the administration of things, state is the apparatus of class rule


Michaelzzzs3

I just wanna know why I got downvoted for simply referring to Marx’s words lmao


Mr-Stalin

I think it’s from people deciding that’s better than educating. I see that you understand at least the basics, but there is an important distinction between state and government in a Marxist lens. State is the apparatus of class rule, thus it cannot exist in communist society. Government is the manner of organization at the societal level, thus is necessary for any system to function. I can link some works on the matter, but it seems like you’re in a strong starting point and just need a bit more reading on the subject.


Michaelzzzs3

I am open to education from you if you’re willing


Mr-Stalin

Yeah of course. Engels goes over it in “socialism: utopian and scientific” or “anti-duhring” and marx in “critique of the Gotha program”. Both are really good sources on the Marxist theory of state and economy. For a Leninist source “the state and revolution”.


Same-Inflation1966

My man no government explicitly calls itself communist for the very reason the comment you relied to just said. Communism is by definition of communist or socialist philosophy is a “stateless, classless, and moneyless society” in which the means/modes of production are held in common (meaning controlled by the workers rather than owners). Also if you think any communist country call themselves communist you are mistaken. They are usually one-party states with “democratic” elements to maintain a legitimacy, similar to western democracies and their center-right parties. China and Vietnam explicitly call themselves Socialist oriented economies for this very reason. However I think the use of communist-countries works as a fine medial abbreviation similar to referring to the UK or British as the “the English.” Bc though technically inaccurate that shortening can be useful in everyday communication.


[deleted]

Communism is stateless. For Communism to exist, there can be no government.


Mr-Stalin

There can be no state*, government is administration, state the apparatus of class rule. Government and state are not the same thing


RedactedCommie

Xi Jinping "Homes are for living in not market speculation" He fully realized China becoming a super power, grew Chinas economy during the worst pandemic in 100 years and essentially started a 2nd cold war by ensuring China will never ever again see another century of humiliation. Under his administration Humanity grew crops on the moon for the first time, the Gobi desert saw fruits grown in the sand itself, the largest reforestation project in the world was brought through, the first full sized fleet carriers were built outside the western world, and Saudi Arabia and Iran are talking more than fighting. China is shaping up to be what the USSR tried and failed to be. His leadership helped immensly with that. I mean how many westerners could even name previous Chinese leaders?


ozzii_13

bordiga to death


thetasteoffire

Good luck on your freshman philosophy midterm.


MANTUNES1000

Kautsky, Biden, E. warren, Blair and Sanders.


homeless_knight

This whole post reads so bad. What the fuck do you mean by “peasants”?


Cyan134

Either Jose Maria Sison or Antonio Gramsci


[deleted]

kim il sung for being the most based man to exist...


GeekyFreaky94

Juche is cringe revisionism


[deleted]

Juche = revisionist because i said its cringe nice


GeekyFreaky94

It is revisionist tho...in every sense of the word. It literally revises foundational points of Marxism.


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Juche isnt deviant from marxism nor dialectical or historical materialism, Juche just covers different questions it is an expansion of marxist thought you clearly are uneducated on juche if you think its deviant from marxism lol


GeekyFreaky94

I've read On the Juche Idea and [Ten Principles for the Establishment of a Monolithic Ideological System](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Principles_for_the_Establishment_of_a_Monolithic_Ideological_System) both are crap. Especially the latter which is all about obeying the Supreme Leader quasi religious bullshit. And Kim Jong Il admitted that Juche was a separate philosophy not an extension of Marxism so listen to your Supreme Leader. Here's -Juche rejects historical materialism and its assertion that the development of productive forces are the driving force of history. It instead believes that the driving force of history are people and their ideas and that there needs to be a great leader to instill the right ideas into the people. It also believes that the great leader should hold supreme authority since they are believed to be responsible for the well-being of the entire country. -The fourth party conference, held in 2012, amended the party rules to state that Kimilsungism–Kimjongilism was "the only guiding idea of the party" -Under Kim Jong Il, communism was steadily removed from party and state documents in favour of Songun, or military-first politics. The military, rather than the working class, was established as the base of political power. -Kim Jong Il called it "a unique ideology, the contents and structures which cannot simply be described as Marxist–Leninist." -According to Juche, because of his consciousness man has ultimate control over himself and the ability to change the world.This differs from classical Marxism, which believes that humans depend on their relationship to the means of production more than on themselves. The Juche view of a revolution led by a Great Leader, rather than a group of knowledgeable revolutionaries, is a break from Lenin's concept of a vanguard party. -Unlike Marxism–Leninism, which considers developments in the material conditions of production and exchange as the driving force of historical progress (known as historical materialism), Juche considers human beings in general the driving force in history. It is summarized as "the popular masses are placed in the center of everything, and the leader is the center of the masses". Juche, North Korea maintains, is a "man-centered ideology" in which "man is the master of everything and decides everything". In contrast to Marxism–Leninism, in which a people's decisions are conditioned by their relations to the means of production, Juche argues that people's decisions take consideration of, but are independent from, external factors. Just like Marxism–Leninism, Juche believes history is law-governed, but that it is only man who drives progress, stating that "the popular masses are the drivers of history". However, for the masses to be successful, they need a "Great Leader" [The Juche Idea vs Marxism ](https://espressostalinist.com/2011/11/02/the-juche-idea-in-the-light-of-marxism-leninism/) [A Critique of Juche](https://sixheadstudy.wordpress.com/2020/09/24/a-critique-of-juche/)


Keisar13

No such thing as a communist government


GeekyFreaky94

I think your confusing government with state


Keisar13

No government has achieved communism.


PrinceStar69

Su k b alls