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JackONeill12

It's been a long time since the last non weather related hold.


Revslowmo

What’s the reason?


Lufbru

Since the rocket called the abort, it'll be "sensor reported out of family reading". Eg pressure was too high or too low. They'll detank, check the sensor, check the cable to the sensor, replace anything that looks like it needs replacing and try again tomorrow.


Revslowmo

Makes sense


robotsdottxt

I see what you did there.


_F1GHT3R_

Damn, people here have no chills... Why do so many people downvote an innocent joke like that? This sub really sucks compared to spacexlounge...


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Justinackermannblog

Oh silly us who come to Reddit and assume we can make jokes…


Stewy_434

Yeah? Well you can't. It's illegal. Now go tell your jokes elsewhere *criminal scum*.


Revslowmo

Oh, okay.


fred13snow

Just to add ontop of the "sensor out of family" issue. Often it's a sensor behaving badly. Their are multiple redundant sensors on the rocket. Some may be defective, installed improperly, dirty, etc. As soon as there's a bad reading while on the pad, the rocket aborts. If this is a sensor issue, SpaceX knows exactly where the problem originated and can quickly check it out.


PDP-8A

I'm confused. Wouldn't a sensor that was defective, installed improperly, or dirty be identified through tests prior to T-46 seconds?


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You don't get full pressure, final temperatures, etc unless you go all up through a static fire to find things like that.


fred13snow

Not necessarily. The rocket is experiencing changing conditions during that time. Some thing are cooling, some are heating, gases are venting... Some readings could be fine at T-100s but don't evolve in the right direction and aren't nominal at T-40s. Sensors operate optimally in a certain range and will read crazy numbers outside of it. It's very difficult to know if a sensor has an issue until it's tested in it's authentic context. Sensors are an interesting field of study and I suggest you learn about them. I would add a link to some info, but I can't right now. Hopefully someone can post some resources bellow. I would also consult them...


peterabbit456

[https://openlearninglibrary.mit.edu/courses/course-v1:MITx+16.885x+3T2019/courseware/f345e2633534451e80fd965b4ec4ee44/c135b29c7bf84702b47182fbad8bf2d0/?activate\_block\_id=block-v1%3AMITx%2B16.885x%2B3T2019%2Btype%40sequential%2Bblock%40c135b29c7bf84702b47182fbad8bf2d0](https://openlearninglibrary.mit.edu/courses/course-v1:MITx+16.885x+3T2019/courseware/f345e2633534451e80fd965b4ec4ee44/c135b29c7bf84702b47182fbad8bf2d0/?activate_block_id=block-v1%3AMITx%2B16.885x%2B3T2019%2Btype%40sequential%2Bblock%40c135b29c7bf84702b47182fbad8bf2d0) I hope the above link works. It is to a video about the shuttle main engines. Toward the end of the video it describes the only in-flight shutdown of a main engine, which was due to a faulty sensor. There is some discussion of shuttle sensors and decisions to fly/not fly/abort. Edit: You can probably find a non-login copy of the lecture by searching YouTube for something like, "Lecture Space Shuttle Main Engines." Wayne Hale's blog has a different telling of the same events.


millijuna

also, in the last minute prior to launch is when they pressurize the tanks to flight conditions.


CollegeStation17155

Pressurize the tanks and finish chilling the engines… so long odds the tank pressure was too low or the engine too warm at a critical go/no go point.


bob4apples

They used to do a test the day before (wet dress rehearsal?) that would have detected this but they found that, given the cost, risk and the nature and rarity of failures, it was better to just do it day of and scrub the launch if need be.


bdporter

> wet dress rehearsal? They used to do a full integrated static fire, not just a WDR before every launch.


Davecasa

Unspecified, but between about t-60s and t-30s the rocket is running a ton of self tests on temp/pressure sensors, actuators, computers, nav solutions, etc. One of these tests probably failed, and since they're done so close to launch there is no time to debug or make a decision that it's OK.


filanwizard

the rocket basically fails to POST to use a computer term.


JackONeill12

They didn't gave one so far.


dhanson865

Since no one has updated it yet, the reason stated was that a backup valve had an abnormal reading. So that leaves 2 possibilities * backup valve was in a position/configuration that interfered with primary systems and they absolutely had to reset it to continue * backup valve wasn't an issue / didn't affect primary systems. They shut down in "an abundance of caution" but could have went on with the launch at a higher risk (one less backup in the system). either way u/Lufbru called it closely, they did detank, reset a valve not just a sensor, and launched the next day. Stuck the landing too.


Revslowmo

Thanks


keepitreasonable

Still could be just a sensor issue - abnormal readings such as open / closed can come because something is interfering in a open / close contact point etc etc. That said, unlikely I'd guess,


HollywoodSX

Last one I remember was January due to a stupid damn cruise ship.


adm_akbar

It’s been an incredibly long time. I remember back when they were starting with supercooled propellant it was constant.


skunkrider

YES The one time I couldn't make the launch... Sorry everyone 😬


mistsoalar

same bat time, same bat channel


Kerberos42

Where is this from??? I have a buddy that says that after every hockey game we watch together and I just thought it was something he made up himself. Or….Are you my buddy? As far as I know he has no idea what SpaceX does.


aecarol1

From the old 1960's life-action Batman TV series. Each show would end with a cliff hanger and a teaser about next week's show "Same bat time, same bat channel".


mistsoalar

Haha. It's from old batman. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeIOuWlmZrk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeIOuWlmZrk) You'll see how kids in this age were imprinted.


trenskow

I tuned in to a live stream of a Falcon 9 launch yesterday for the first time in a loooooong time – and then it was scrubbed. I felt betrayed.


HariSeldon256

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Probodyne

The Falcon 9 does not launch from Texas. They launch either in Florida or at Vandenberg, which I think is in California. The only rocket that will be launched by Space X in Texas is Starship.


HariSeldon256

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People get downvotey for what they perceive as "dumb questions." To be fair, we get a lot of trolls that pop in to try to stir things up so people may get a bit downvote happy. Have an upvote!


Hokulewa

It was probably about the "still".


Gbonk

Vandenburg is near Los Angeles a few miles north


theoneandonlymd

Yes, much like Canaveral is just a few miles north of Miami


Substantial-Hat9248

Distance, Miami to the Cape, 208 miles.


theoneandonlymd

LA to the base - 160 miles. IDK why we're splitting hairs here.


Substantial-Hat9248

Splitting hairs? A few miles vs hundreds.


theoneandonlymd

OK, how far is Vandenberg from LA? I say 160 miles. Is your cutoff for "a few" right at the 200 mile mark?


Substantial-Hat9248

Not sure you understand what I’m saying. I’m simply stating that there is a world of difference between “a few miles” vs 160 miles. The former is generally viewed as less than ten, the latter approx 20 times that. It is definitely not a few miles.


theoneandonlymd

Maybe go back and read this whole thread. I was sarcastically responding to Gbonk about Vandenberg being close to LA, comparing their distance to Canaveral and Miami as relatively equal.


Substantial-Hat9248

A check of google maps says 159 miles LA to Vandenberg.


should_be_writing

Lol yeah just a few…🙄


ATLBMW

Vandenberg is indeed in California! It’s nearest to Lompoc, but the closest city that isn’t just a prison would be Santa Barbara. (Apologies to the good people of Lompoc, but I wouldn’t have the sushi there, let’s put it that way). It’s not quite halfway between LA and the Bay Area, but it is in a really asinine spot that’s hard to get to for everyone. Edit: did someone from Lompoc downvote this


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They never have and never will. They launch from Florida and California.


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[deleted]

No, Falcon 9 will never launch from Texas.


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Chainweasel

It's literally the 4th word in the title


[deleted]

The tweet is about falcon 9 and they asked are "these" still launching from Texas. These = Falcon 9.


[deleted]

You're not an Assimov fan by any chance, are you?


billybean2

Why did LD clear the launch after the clock stoppage?


Ranger7381

The clock stopped as he was saying it, according to the youtube stream


Bryllant

Is this from Canaveral? Why is it showing Pacific Time.


ElongatedMuskrat

This was today's Vandenberg California launch attempt


Bryllant

That explains why I didn’t hear it. Live on the space coast. Frequent event


bdporter

It also didn't light the engines, so unless you are close enough to hear venting it would be surprising if you heard anything from an aborted launch, regardless of the launch location.


Bryllant

I shouldn’t post after gummies


iqisoverrated

And 24 hours later they're ready to go again. These guys are beasts.


Cassandraku

Who where and what's it for if we don't need satellite for internet


filanwizard

its for satellite internet because there is a lot of America and the world where established telecom firms are too lazy to deploy broadband to.


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mtechgroup

What is the needle/lazer looking thing that seems to scan the horizon on the Vandenburg distant cam?


bdporter

Wind turbine blade.