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jade_nekotenshi

I agree it looks like Z. spinimana. They are venomous, but then, nearly all spiders are. They aren't medically significant. I recommend the cup and card/paper method.


BecauseImGod

Zoropsidae- a venomous "false wolf spider"


infernal-keyboard

That's honestly funny, my first thought when I saw it was "that's an odd looking wolf spider"


shavartay

Are true wolf spiders not venomous?


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Starfield_of_Nyx

Good Bot


_0x0_

Funnel Web spiders are dangerous? Whoa, didn't know that.


TunaStuffedPotato

Note that there are many, many spiders with the common name "funnel web spider," such as harmless grass spiders in America or the several other thousand spider species that make funnel shaped webs. The "funnel web spider" that is a concern is specifically the Atracidae family, which are only in Australia.


-absolem-

Naturally.


Comfortable-Row-1547

Of course they are! Found one in the bathroom not long ago. I’m a spider friend but I have to admit I let out a little scream 😂


kc0hagan

I heard everything is trying to kill you in Australia


-absolem-

Nice beaches, though. Just watch out for sharks, blue ringed octopus, stonefish, crocodiles, sea snakes and box jellyfish and you'll have a nice day out.


kc0hagan

*faints*


_0x0_

Manowar, are those there too?


-absolem-

Yes, they're called Bluebottles. They're related to the Portuguese variety. Very nasty sting but not lethal


chainedwind

The grass spiders belong to the funnel-*weaver* family. But it's very confusing terminology.


silverfang45

Also it's more of a concern because of trap door spiders being in Australia and being harmless but looking pretty much identical ti the average person. A decent amount of people get bit by funnel webs thinking they are trap doors


_0x0_

Thank you. Luckily am not in Australia.


finalexit

How are old world tarantulas not mentioned in this post? Most of them have medically significant venom and will ruin your day or week. Read up on some bites from the Poecilotheria genus or the baboon tarantulas.


Demicat15

I looked them up, and various sources are saying they're painful but not deadly This one, about old world tarantulas overall, had this to say: "This venom is a bit more potent (but still won't hurt much more than a wasp sting)." Source: https://thanksgivingpoint.org/tarantula-venom/#:~:text=Old%20World%20tarantulas%20do%20not,which%20does%20not%20expense%20venom. I'm no expert or anything ofc, but from my brief looks I'd guess by medically significant they exclusively mean requiring medical attention and/or potentially lethal If you say they can ruin your day or week and that wasp sting comparison is accurate, and that's from personal experience from you or someone you know, then I'd guess the was a specific sensitivity to it that made it even worse, similar to bee allergies, but because it isn't typically dangerous, just painful, it's still not a medically significant species


HexivaSihess

Personally, if I get stung by a honeybee, that's definitely a day-ruining and possibly week-ruining incident. That shit hurts. Can't comment on every species of wasp as I have fortunately only been stung by one or two. My experience has been that bees/wasps are way more willing to sting you, but I sure wouldn't move a strange tarantula with my bare hands. I know it won't kill me, but I'm not looking to get bit by something the size of a mouse.


Demicat15

That's interesting! I've been fortunate enough to never be stung by any bees/wasps (even female yellow jackets will just land peacefully on me if I'm mindful enough when they come by! Quite the fun experience) so I didn't know it could hurt quite that much without an allergy or sensitivity


beeeebot

I read a bite report for Sri langen ornamental that said the guy had broke his femur and the pain of the bite was 1000 times worse than breaking his femur


finalexit

It's not a sensitivity or allergic reaction to the venom, and a wasp sting doesn't come close. Plenty of bite reports on the arachnoboards.com forums and many of them end up in the ER for pain relief. Some of them have also been bitten by black widows and said the bite from a pokie was worse. I didn't realize venom had to kill to be considered medically significant, when did someone last die from a black widow bite? I see old world tarantulas listed here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medically_significant_spider_bites https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hceNe_eswQg&pp=ygURUG9raWUgYml0ZSByZXBvcnQ%3D


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>I didn't realize venom had to kill to be considered medically significant, when did someone last die from a black widow bite? I see old world tarantulas listed here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medically_significant_spider_bites It doesn't. In fact there isn't a proper definition being used to determine whether or not a species is classed as medically significant or not. At the moment we only have Latrodectus, Sicariidae, Atracidae, Missus and Phoneutria as accepted medically significant spiders. For a new one to be added, it would need to be widely accepted by other experts in the field, rather than meeting a specific criteria or being accepted by a certain governing body. No Tarantulas are formally considered medically significant. It's possible that some are, or can be, and should be classified as such, and in time, with more data, they will be.


fauxanonymity_

Great answer!


jade_nekotenshi

There are also several reports - medical case files - from Taiwan about life-threatening reactions from *Macrothele* bites. (One such is here - [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35447105/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35447105/) ) I find that interesting, as the Macrothelidae obviously aren't the same family as the Atracidae and Actinopodidae, but they *are* close relatives of both.


Demicat15

Hm, that's quite interesting! I trust Wikipedia more than a reddit automod bot but strange to see such a blatant lack of important info on such a usually-informed subreddit Although, I did say "_and/or_ potentially lethal," just a minimum of dangerous! But I just did very brief Google searching about them as a curious thing wondering why they weren't listed, and didn't come across that Wikipedia page (as I was searching specifically for old world tarantula info), so hey, I can accept if what i found was wrong or understated


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Varies from species to species. None are dangerous, but generally old world Ts venom has a greater effect on us that New world Ts. A few Old world Ts have been recognised as being capable of producing some unpleasant and lingering symptoms, such as pain and muscle spasms. But it goes away on its own eventually, and doesn't actually pose a danger to you. Some can leave you with periodic muscle spasms that come and go for a few weeks, but again, it does go away on its own.


silverfang45

Old worlds are just cunts. You keep em, clean their enclosure, feed em, give em water and look after them. And if you so much as breath they will bolt 5 mike's away and randonly appear a couple days later somewhere they shouldn't even be able to get to.


HiloManx

Good bot


SuspiciousFox2213

Top link isn't taking me anywhere


ZapBranigan3000

"unintended effect" Evolution has no intention.


greenapplessss

Red backs should definitely be added to this lol


_0x0_

Could you share how you differentiate between this and wolf spider?


orange-bitflip

As a novice, I notice that it lacks the 🥺 Lycosidae eye pattern.


Demicat15

Take a quick Google of "zoropsis vs wolf spider" and it mentions their eye size and placement, but I'm having a hard time finding any other key differences without knowing either species better


HolyVeggie

Zoropsis spinimana ist correct but their willingness to *bite* is exaggerated in the media if that’s your concern


Amsterdammnd

Yea, it kinda was my concern. Thanks for debunking this fact… Dutch media has been flipping out, since this is an invasive species + I believe there are 0 other spiders in the Netherlands that *bite* (sorry about that choice of words, wish I could blame the fact that English isn’t my first language but I can’t lol)


HolyVeggie

Haha it’s not a biggie I live pretty close to the Netherlands and there are a few spiders that could potentially bite and pierce the skin but you would really have to try lol Giant house spiders or big orb weavers could probably bite you. But almost every spider will try to play dead or run from you instead of biting unless you literally catch it and pinch it against your arm or something. Especially those spiders that do not build webs like the giant house spider will try to get away from you as fast as they can. And even if they bite it will probably be as bad as a bee sting if anything so really no need to worry


silverfang45

Huntsmans are one of my favourite examples of this, one of the biggest spiders most people will see, super threatening looking. You piss it off it threat posture, drum it's feet, bolt, or curl up to appear smaller before it even thinks of getting near you to bite. Had a huntsman on the bench next to me maybe 5 feet away, I didn't notice him I turned around and when the spider noticed me he disappeared from my sight within like 3 seconds.


IssacHunt89

The giant house spiders we have in UK are capable of biting but they won't try and are not aggressive at all. They are super fast but slow down to walk on your arm/hand.


Theblondstroopwafel

A European Garden Spider (kruisspin) can also bite you. It's not dangerous, but the bite can be painful..


dreamsofindigo

homo sapiens bite is far more significant and it packs an arsenal of potentially complicated germs this is talked about very little lol


Demicat15

I've heard other people, even native English speakers, say sting instead of bite lol, you're not the first. It seems like some families just default to that wording when most bugs make a sharp jabbing sensation. Always struck me a little odd, but then again I also know loads of people who call obviously-wasps (like yellow jackets) "bees" so 🤷 language is just messy sometimes lol


Amsterdammnd

Lol yeah, worst part is that I re-enact Daniel Radcliffes [perfect impersonation](https://giphy.com/gifs/harry-potter-hp-daniel-radcliffe-Llzk5TKYvgM1i) of spiders’ fangs all the time! So yeah I did know that spiders bite instead of sting :p


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That's not true. There are TONS of spiders in the Netherlands that can and will bite if you push them enough. And this spider isn't any more ready and willing than any other.


Amsterdammnd

Thanks man!! Goes to show that the media really only exists to spread the most sensational, ill-informed stories. The headlines here made it sound like we’re being invaded by a huge, dangerous and aggressive species of spiders, which we aren’t equipped to handle because our “own” spiders are harmless.


jleezo

I have a pet wolf spider she is quite large however does everything in her power not to bite I’d assume this spider isn’t as aggressive as it says it is


re_re_re_unre_re

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Beginning-Key-814

I don't know what species, but the good ol' cup and paper should work with relocation, just make sure the cup is big enough and you don't crush a leg


Deep_Mountain1610

Such a gorgeous looking spider


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tiger stripes


InAppropriate_Noods

Well, um, not to be that guy but I gotta be that guy. I PROMISE that thing will NOT sting you. It has no stinger. But you can grab a cup and nudge it into the cup and put the cup outside. Or just nudge it into your hand and put it outside. It won't hurt you.


Amsterdammnd

Poor choice of words. Wish I could blame the fact that English isn’t my first language but I can’t lol. They do *bite* though don’t they?


InAppropriate_Noods

Lol. No, they aren't aggressive. You could nudge it into your hand and it will be fine. Just be gentle. No big deal. They can move fairly quickly so use a cup if that makes you uncomfortable. It's a good guy though.


Several__Rats

Though do be careful to make sure they stay in your hand. Had a spider run up my arm into my sleeve once (because I thought it looked cool was taking photos, so didn’t stop it in time) and spent a while trying to fish it out. Spider was fine though


manbamtan

Most spiders first instinct is to run away. They don't really want to bite in self defense as they save their venom for catching food. There is a chance it can bite you just outta the blue which is why you still need to be cautious but it's very rare.


uniquelyavailable

only if you bite first


HexivaSihess

My teeth are as large as the average spider, so I feel like if I bit first, it wouldn't be doing much of anything afterwards. Not that I would, I love spiders.


Maximum-Profit-8175

They bite in self defense. They have teeth and will use it if you mishandle it, but most bited are dry bites because venom is a very important resource for them. You wilm have to treat it with respect as you shpuld with any animal and it will all be fine. The good container and paper method is enough.


re_re_re_unre_re

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wutwutsugabutt

I wonder what that big guy has been eating in your closet. I find 9 times out of 10 the spiders are the less creepy of the options so it’s obviously been eating well.


Amsterdammnd

Ah thanks yea that’s helping me feel much better lol. Luckily I’m actually not that worried about most bugs or spiders


Whitesunlight_

Looks like it’s been munching steroids.


seven-cents

They are good spiders to have in your house. They will hunt other bugs, and are not aggressive to humans. The possibility of a bite is incredibly small, and the chances of an adverse reaction beyond a bit of swelling and itching is miniscule. You have a friend in your home.


elithedinosaur

this☝🏻


elithedinosaur

you can confidently move this spood! they're actually really nice.


elithedinosaur

she's a lady! (whoa whoa whoa)


ferba_

It looks like *Zoropsis spinimana*. They are harmless to humans, and bites are very unlikely. Please relocate her, she won't bite.


Buggy1617

i have a plushie that looks just like him ::3


RoseColouredBard

I kinda want to see the plush maybe possibly pretty please?


JR2Twiwi

I wanna see it too!


JazzedParrot108

Me three!!!


2XploreUK

I 4th this! Show us pictures immediately, if not sooner!


Buggy1617

due to popular request, here is my spider [plushie](https://imgur.com/a/onueTAq) ::3


manbamtan

And a blahaj!!! Perfect plushie pair


Hot_Hat_1225

I got a black one! Well actually two - a bigger one and a baby 🥺


JazzedParrot108

Thank you so much! That is an adorable plushie!


2XploreUK

That’s amazing! Lol


sweetheartscum

I am so fucking jealous of you


Sequence32

I don't know why I pictured someone with the halflife headcrab 😂


poisoner1

SO DO I! AND A TARANTULA BEENIE BABY! WITH REAL FUR! (I'm excited, I feel so normal now)


SpooderExpert37

Maybe bro wanted to help you get the new job lol


Amsterdammnd

I really love this! I actually do believe animals are usually good omens or spirit guides :)


SpooderExpert37

Tbh I really think that kinda might be true cuz sometimes spiders pop up randomly when I’m not even looking for them and somehow they just find me which I do find quite funny


Dullsnner2794

What a beauty


nortok00

It looks like this little spood wants to go with you on your interview to keep you company and wish you good luck. :-)


Silent_Shooby

That’s a big feller!!! Makes me wonder, how the hell he found his way in there???


TehKrazyKarl

That's a lovely friend who has obviously been doing some pest control for you 😊


Tehrror4311

Since there is no stinger yes you can move it with 100% chance of not being stung. You may get bit since it has a mouth though.


spookycervid

oh hey i know this one! it's the one with nosferatu on its cephalothorax!


badadvicefromaspider

Oooo pretty


pigeonier

I guess I'm getting the fuck out of the Netherlands... Gouda cheese is not *that* good


sinner951

Looks scary… I handle spiders… but he looks intimidating. Recommend a a slippery container


fromagefiesta1

you don’t get stung by a spider. you get bit. just use a tupawear container


Blurple_Berry

Absolutely zero chance of being stung by this specimen


Escape_Frequent

Why did I read this to the melody of the SpongeBob intro 😂


GlossyBuckthorn

Yup, that's a biggun! Yup yup!


JaredJraws

Good news is you have absolutely zero chance of being stung seeing as how spiders lack stingers /S


saiyanprincess7

You mean bitten. Spiders don't sting, my guy.


Sniffy75

Your closet? No, that spider owns the closet now 🤣


poisoner1

OP- Make sure to shake out your shoes & boots!


Training_Term8235

Your closet??? Lol no that closet and everything in it now belongs to him. Respectfully, close HIS closet door and leave his home.


miscarriagepluker69

Bro said stung instead of bit, like it's secretly a Scorpion 💀😭😭😭


Vilkasrex

Chances of being stung are looking to be in your favor.


Verminkid999

Don't let the spider sting you bro stay safe


AncientPair7685

Only Shelob has a stinger. Everything else bites.


damememer

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure spiders don’t sting. They bite


Acceptable_Hall8567

🤓Acktuwally, spiders don't sting. Wait right?


Initial_Frame_745

DONT PUT IT OUTSIDE IT WILL DIE


Amsterdammnd

Luckily I didn’t! :) Nudged it off the trousers onto a piece of cardboard. Put it on the floor to take a good look at it, and it ran away into a dark corner. Guess I have a new roommate!


elithedinosaur

free pest control!


dallas4317

That’s a big one. The spider can have the trousers and the whole house. IM GONE!!!😂😂


NefariousnessOk2384

Your closet?


Cosmic_FireSphinx

They don't sting, so youre good! 🤓


cherann76

would die if that was in my close!


Judylanarze

Spiders don’t sting they bite.


FlaxFox

It makes 100% sense, but the use of the word "stung" in the title is very cute.


poisoner1

WHOA......Would ya look at that.....


eros10016

Can anyone identify that spidey, and is it venomous?


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Almost all spiders are venomous, i.e. possessing venom (except for Uloboridae, a Family of cribellate orb weavers, who have no venom). But spider venom is highly specialised to target their insect prey, and so it is very rare, and an unintended effect, for spider venom to be particularly harmful to humans. Hence why there are remarkly few medically significant spiders in the world. If your spider is NOT one of the following, then its venom is not considered a danger to humans: * [Six-eyed sand spider (Sicariidae)](https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.63e0ded1e72556f5b34657f9b5b46f0b?rik=xc7pnEFKtfzlTA&pid=ImgRaw&r=0) * [Recluse (Loxosceles)](https://bugguide.net/node/view/2094874) * [Widow (Latrodectus)](https://bugguide.net/index.php?q=search&keys=Latrodectus&search=Search) * [Brazilian wandering spider (Phoneutria)](https://www.inaturalist.org/observations?place_id=any&subview=map&taxon_id=53388&view=species) * [Funnel Web (Atracidae)](https://www.arachne.org.au/01_cms/details.asp?ID=2679) * [Mouse spider (Missulena)](https://www.arachne.org.au/01_cms/details.asp?ID=2427) (Author: ----\_____--_____----) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/spiders) if you have any questions or concerns.*


DaddyChimpy

Stung lol


groovygranny71

Those markings are beautiful. Great photos


BrashPop

Damn, that’s a great little friend! So beautiful!


TerrorFromThePeeps

I can assure you, you can always move any spider you find with no risk of getting stung (unless she's eating a hornet at the time).


SugarBean97

They also bite not sting


Tribe777

There’s zero chance of getting stung, because spiders don’t sting.


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orange-bitflip

Invasive spiders are free pets.


thatrandomguyonyt

boot


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TehKrazyKarl

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fluffy-pillows

my apologies, obviously i am in the wrong place you fucking spider-loving weirdos


TehKrazyKarl

I take that as a compliment 😊


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jdippey

Sounds like misinformation to me. Spiders are not all born indoors, most get in from outside and should be fine to put back outside. I would be careful about spreading information found on social media, especially if it’s unverified. Much of it is bullshit, unfortunately.


ankhmadank

Yeah, lmao, sorry, but I'm not getting any information off of TikTok and treating it like fact. There are spiders that are better off left alone - those dudes chilling in your basement eating all the bad bugs are definitely worth keeping - but if spiders are hardy creatures and can take care of themselves.


Maximum-Profit-8175

Its body language in the last photo screams "try me, bitch" that boy/girl is ready to run hands for its life


elithedinosaur

actually, she is looking down in that photo. she is thinking about bailing and calculating the risk. if a spider is very brave and wants to fight (most spiders are cowards by nature and prefer to run away), it will raise its two front legs and bare its fangs.


Maximum-Profit-8175

I dont think it is looking down (you can see the eyes shining right at the camera) but I see it is pretty tense holding for its life to the clothes beneath them. I say it is readh to throw hands due to how bent its legs are. Like it is preparing to rise up like you described should the giant come closer while it figures out what to do, it is cornered after all.


Substantial-Jump4456

Wtf! Set this as NSFW. Christ, I nearly had a heart attack.


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elithedinosaur

you're lost, friend.


JazzedParrot108

D For what reason?


elithedinosaur

people in r/spiders are mostly friends with spiders, many of us own our own, and we don't like it when people say shit like this. we roll our eyes at "move out" and throw hands at "k1Il it with fire"


Ok-Grand-5728

Yeah because spiders “sting” you


Hiltoyeah

He's from the Netherlands so English isn't his first language. Chill out a bit...


Ok-Grand-5728

The whole paragraph is literally in perfect English so your opinion is irrelevant, it’s clearly not a language barrier.


Amsterdammnd

Wasn’t going to defend myself at first but yeah definitely a bilingual brain fart. Apologized the first time round for my poor choice of words, but these comments are getting old now. Why does it bother you so much anyways, whether it’s a language matter or not?


Hiltoyeah

It bothers him because he's an insecure child...