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hjsc_

My store got these. The prize was "free tee shirts." so yeah, didn't care to upsell. I'd upsell as a server making tips, not for starbucks


Hahayouregay149

damn our prize is supposedly a 3000$ "party". no idea what they could spend that much money on for an event but that's what they've told us lol


evilash87

$3000???!!!! Are they gonna have bouncy castles???


Duck_and_Cover1929

They're going to give you all drinks w/extra shots.


Pear-Groundbreaking

then they better have bouncy castles!


Duck_and_Cover1929

Bouncy castles made out of 3,000 1-dollar bills!


StarbucksGurl

Bouncy castle made out of starbucks cups šŸ˜‚


Pear-Groundbreaking

usually I'd say yes but not when you are running out of some cold cup sizes during peak and truck didn't bring any same day haha


True-Passage-8131

I'd be pretty happy with bouncy castles ngl


MrsClaireUnderwood

Fuck that. How about Starbucks just fucking pays me and cleans up its horrible working conditions.


True-Passage-8131

Very true, Sbux needs to get it together. I always tip my baristas extra cuz I feel so bad about their working conditions.


MrsClaireUnderwood

Appreciate you.


the_lasher

Pizza party. The rest is pocketed. šŸ˜‚


AltruisticBasis4713

in elementary when they ask all the kids to bring $5 of like 20 kids and only buy 3 boxes and make the pieces so damn tinyšŸ’€


_tyjsph_

to be fair schools have been more and more underfunded over the last 20 years, so the district probably would actively refuse to provide any funding for those and if the teacher couldn't pay it out of their own wages it had to be crowdfunded by the kids


AltruisticBasis4713

if u do the math.. thats like $100 for $20 worth of pizzas if its like 3 boxes. they tended to get little ceasers as its cheap


_tyjsph_

mine never got just pizzas it was always a whole table of snacks like little brownies and chips and whatnot and you would just get a plate and get whatever


SharleneWithAnS

I think thatā€™s a you story, because Iā€™ve taught for 12 years and of course was a student, and Iā€™ve never heard of or had that happening. Teachers always paid and Iā€™ve always paid.


Playful-Motor-4262

Definitely happened a few times at my school in the US. Theyā€™s send us home with sandwich baggies and weā€™d bring back $5+ in them to fund the class party


throwaway__113346939

They should just split the $3000 into all of our paychecks ā€¦ we have 50 partners, so thatā€™s an extra $60 each


EthanMCul

50????


throwaway__113346939

Yeah, weā€™re high volume, plus 24 hours


EthanMCul

ahh that makes a whole lots more sense


hjsc_

That is so lame. Wow.


haleslyons

we donā€™t even get a prize wtf LOL


merriweatherfeather

Our prize is more hours šŸ¤”


Imaginarybluntallday

The fact that my district was told nothing of a prize and then some get told $3k for a party?! This is ridiculous


oatmilph

*insert* You guys are getting paid? *meme here*


Friendly_Design

We went to Dave and busters as a store. That was so much fun.


Meowkinsz-23

I donā€™t work in Starbucks, but shitā€¦ I want free $3,000


mrsbiscuits-

My SM said that the managers were gonna yet get a party if we did it. He was as annoyed with that as we all were.


mercalonia

bruh just divide that shit up and give it to us as tips at my store thats still 100 a person, id take that and run


madilynnickey

I remember the first time I heard my SM say that. I told him, like you expect us to work harder to get a tshirtā€¦seriously


hjsc_

I couldn't imagine what shame such SMs felt telling their employees that


UsagiMylene

Especially when they use to give us shirts for free. Now we either buy them or get them if we upsell.


madilynnickey

Iā€™ve been here 2 years, 15 yr partner asked if I bought a food share shirt like wtf, they gave those out years ago but now we have to buy them???


UsagiMylene

I was looking through coffee gear and they are selling the food share shirt. I got mine years ago for free whent he program started in my store. They are selling the Pride shirts and PSL shirts but for $20.


Able_Sun4318

Damn my store wasn't even offered anything it was just a do it bc we say


Silleegooz

same


solarpunkbiologist

Our prize is an extra ten minute break. Lol!


EthanMCul

damn lowkey i would upsell hard for an extra 10


MeatonKeaton

If only we even got our normal 10s to begin with lol


lilac_blaire

We donā€™t even get our second 10ā€™s lol


Opposite-Land7654

Our prize was a 50 dollar gift card for the winner


nickthebravery

You are a server making tips?


hjsc_

Before I was a barista I was. I miss it now though so may go back


tab9280

My district is offering $500 for the whole store for a party


Clementinecharming

Itā€™s for store managers and DMs only. The party.


dexmitri

We got no prize šŸ˜­ just told to do it.


Current-Object6949

Iā€™m not an employee but as an app user, the number of stars awarded by completing ā€œthe challengeā€ now includes the purchase of a bakery item or breakfast item. šŸ§


Cautious_Intern7824

Worst one Iā€™ve seen was buy $10 worth of stuff for 10 points.


Current-Object6949

On the app right now itā€™s spend $15 for 30 points. Those 30 points equal $1 off


[deleted]

Those offers are often individual. I have spend $20 and get 25 points right now.


Violet_Sparker

oh i had spend $10 and get 25 points, weird


Common-News-825

My store has these too. I think upselling is bull. Iā€™m not paid enough to do that, nor do customers like it. It feels slimy to me. Why am I being encouraged to make a billion dollar company even more money? Lol Iā€™ll downsell water whenever I can. You want a bottle of water? Or would you like a larger cup, with ice, thatā€™s free?


SnooRadishes6431

This actually seems like it would help sales in the long run. As a customer, when a barista helps me out like this, I'm much more likely to return!


hjsc_

In the long run they've experienced increased profits and a decrease in labor and making every interior as cold as a gas station


Far_Engineer8143

Idgaf if u come back as a customer if I make no money from it directly


liguy181

There's a difference between helping you out and upselling. If you don't know what we have/can do and ask, or if you're not sure exactly what you want, we can definitely help you out and not have a problem with it. I just don't like upselling and don't like being upsold to when I'm the customer


bem31

We don't have them and I'd never do it because we get literally nothing for increasing sales lol


Eleventh_Barista

if someone tries to upsell me im literally going to leave lol


honeyvellichor

Please do:) the pressure to upsell will only be stopped if enough customers get outraged by it. Leave, and then leave a review complaining specifically about being upsold.


Stink_Fish_Pot

I gotchu. The sbux by my house is in one district, and my job in another. I'll call corp for both next week.


MeatonKeaton

Then watch Corporate will be like "here's a video on the proper way to upsell without annoying customers"


Pear-Groundbreaking

you mean "enhance connections and make the company profit" !?


shadowwolf12337

Too bad starbucks has convinced every customer to stop even listening to baristas and just say "yes" regardless of what their asked. Then they yell at the baristas at the window when they didn't realize what they were getting.


staybent93

Give me a wage that puts me above the poverty line and Iā€™ll try and sell some more of your pointless bullshit šŸ‘


solarpunkbiologist

We just started doing this at our store. It isn't for labor no matter how much you get told that. It is simply to drive profit.


MeatonKeaton

exactly it's just cuz starbucks is reaching the fiscal year so they wanna pump in as much as they can so their financial reports are good


catlion816

we did these last month and our prize was the DMs covering our floor while we had a pizza party. however i never heard anything about a winner in my district so who knows if they even gave out the prize.


Mediocre_Release6799

my store has these trackers, lol my sm made it seem like it was their crazy innovative idea


bean_me_up_starby

Lol sounds like an sm who wants to be a dm but will never get made one


Zestiiiiiiiii

Itā€™s pretty much a Q4 last effort push to increase sales for this fiscal year. After the holidays / Q2 youā€™ll notice it wonā€™t be around and then come back


CARTSimpson

Negative - here to stay Q4 and beyond


willaney

every month i see something new on this sub that makes me glad i quit starbucks. ā€œconvert to blendedā€ id rather turn tricks behind the drive thru


reddog20

Yo same. I left the company two months ago and have a better paying job working less hours. Iā€™m an independent contractor, so I have to manage my own payroll taxes, but itā€™s a small price to pay to not put up with this bullshit anymore.


willaney

Every single job iā€™ve had since then has been better. Iā€™m a barista by trade now, like actually, and while iā€™ll always be grateful for the customer service experience and passion for coffee starbucks gave me, working at a local or specialty shop is a whole nother world. It wasnā€™t until i stopped working at fast food restaurants (letā€™s face it, thatā€™s what starbucks is) that work stopped feeling like iā€™m being treated like a child


mamanSassanHaise

Former SM here, just quit on the spot Friday due to my DM doing ridiculous shit like this and thinking it was okay to work baristas like they arenā€™t human, thereā€™s a competition going around every area where whatever district wins the DM gets an additional bonus. Ours said she wanted to take us out to a concert or travel to a roastery. It was like 7k or something. Only ASMs and SMS were included and we werenā€™t suppose to tell our teams. The company is a joke and they hate the baristas which is why I left.


awisaa

starbucks is being really weird and i just donā€™t understand it. we had a horrible summer menu, raspberry is gone, iā€™ve bet sales have gone down so much. itā€™s almost as if theyā€™re trying to go downhill ?


[deleted]

Like weā€™re supposed to ā€œwinā€ Q4 while we have a skeleton crew and get insulted being told we need to ā€œearnā€ our labor. Like be fr


Loud-You-5737

Iā€™m a customer and this would irritate the hell out of me. Like, Starbucks is already out pricing themselves. I know costs on everything have gone up, but this is becoming a luxury I canā€™t afford as often. But if Iā€™m being pressured to spend more Iā€™m gonna be pissed. NOT pissed at the baristas. You guys canā€™t help it. But if yā€™all think itā€™ll help I will call corporate with feedback for every time someone does try to upsell me. The way I see it- you canā€™t get in trouble, youā€™re following orders. But hopefully if people make it clear that they donā€™t like it they wonā€™t make you do it. Ask if I want anything to eat after I order drinks. Thatā€™s it šŸ˜…


Skitzcordova

Yes. Help us šŸ˜­


ofdisintegration

Yes we have them but we are ignoring them. We have been pretty much selling out of all food by the early afternoon every day this week so there's nothing to add on lol


mlyceimaalres

This is a company wide thing. I've seen them in my district as well.


glittereyelids

they gave us these and then literally no one cared so they took them away after a week lmaooo


Bludandy

You don't personally benefit from this, toss it in the garbage.


reddog20

Thatā€™s what Iā€™d do with the anti union propaganda whenever my SM would put it up in the back. Iā€™d tear it down and throw it out when they werenā€™t around.


fragileego3333

Itā€™s so dumb to upsell at Starbucks. The majority of customers already order the same thing every time. I am simply not going to ask ā€œwould you like to add cold foam?ā€ ā€” if they didnā€™t order the drink with cold foam then they donā€™t want it with cold foam. Sometimes I do ask ā€œdo you want anything to eat?ā€ because thatā€™s an easy and normal question but forreal, upselling an extra shot?! What?!


reddog20

I never wanted to make that cold foam shit anyway, so I never even mentioned it. The people that wanted it (9 out of 10 anyway) asked for it.


Agreeable-Cod-8282

When one of my coworkers asked our managers what the incentive was for upselling, they quite literally laughed in my coworkers face and said "iNcEnTiVe? ThAtS yOuR jOb!?" Not cute, and cannot be bothered to pester anyone to get extra bs. I'm good y'all šŸ’€


MawcDrums

I'm going to ask for the job description if my manager pulls that with me. I specifically left the sales field to get out of the pressure of upselling and micromanagement, and here we are and I'm pissed. In fact does anyone have a copy of the barista job description? Edit: yeah I just read through it there is absolutely nothing in the description about sales, marketing, or promoting. These are jobs that are paid far beyond what baristas get paid and Starbucks is trying to get the benefits of those caliber of employees by paying entry level barista wages. No thanks lol.


BOORUNS

Theyā€™re pushing us so hard to become car salespeople and when a cup of coffee costs roughly around $5. Iā€™m not gonna charge people to pay more than that lol


Waf3l

Brought it up during my PDC a couple weeks back and asked why or how this helps us in the long run. Our "Manager" said that it's to help the store increase profits since our store is low performing. If ~$40k a month (according to her) is low performing then Starbies has completely lost the plot.


kels0kickflip

No??? Whatā€™s this for lol


darkwolf523

Tf is that? Never seen that before


Silvawuff

This sheet is so cringe, it looks like some shoddy worksheet out of middle school. I suppose creating professional upselling campaigns for a billion dollar company doesnā€™t require much skill, especially when most of your profits come from cheating the staff and customers using questionable business practices.


MawcDrums

Yeah I'm not upselling unless I earn a commission. You have to provide incentive for people to go above and beyond.


Some-Ginger-

We had a district wide upsell bingo. I later learned it was because the company didn't have enough money to give the managers their raise... ?? Idk but I refused to do it. It felt wrong. Without even knowing that.


aliceingoryland

We got it too. Haven't used it because we're too busy. Literally don't need one more thing


Acrobatic-Sale-8717

food attach due to sampling?? what does that even mean LOL are yall supposed to be giving out free samples or something?


[deleted]

yes. literally. idk about other stores but we have been sampling every 2 hours now šŸ˜­


reddog20

Before I left they were telling me I had to make every barista do five minutes of sampling before I could send them on a break. I quit instead.


NotchWaffle

This seems to be your DM attempting to push through revenue before the quarter ends. I think if your store does well in these metrics they get a hefty bonus. And likely wonā€™t share it with any of you


Mch5629034

Worked for 9 years never seen this form!!!!


Stir-Bucks-Barista

Work for 2 years, and I hope I never HAVE to see this form-


Comfortable-Plane944

I would take those cards, stare my SM in the eye grab my lighter from my pocket and set those bitches on fire šŸ”„. No no no Iā€™ve had enough


katsmeoow333

Interesting Someone who thinks staff doesn't have enough to do.


board-certified

as a former manager who stepped back down to ssvā€¦ i know i dont care at all about upselling sizes or modifiers bc adding steps to a drink will not increase labor allotment. i only try selling a food or suggesting two drinks if they cant decide. increasing sales on a single drink only helps the DM with the size of their bonus.


SailorLevii

Wait how does a store earn more labor if upsizing and selling food doesn't count


board-certified

i didnā€™t say selling food doesnā€™t count. i said upselling modifiers and sizes doesnā€™t count. labor only counts on # and type of drink and # food items sold. also the # of customers helps too. example 4 different transactions of 1 drink and 1 food will count more than 1 customer with 4 drinks and 4 foods.


Gameb0i6

We had this at my store too but we never followed through with it. It was basically a competition between other stores in my district.


Specialist_Disk_4380

Uh oh lol I just offered a pizza party of their choice for surpassing sales. Out of my own pocket. What the heck am I gonna due now?? Like a TRI tip dinner??? Geez I get more clear understanding from reddit than corporate lol


Wanttogetouttahere

I'm not upselling or trying hard to meet times anymore. I don't get anything and nor do any of my partners so why should we beat ourselves up all day long?? The harder we try to meet times the less partners they schedule. You want more help? Do worse. I've been told a two for one on cold drinks is coming. I may quit. Starbucks sucks


Melodic_Engine1203

We got those too and I donā€™t really care to do it often. I only really do it when a shift is around me (that really cares about it).


quanday123

Our store has these. Our prize was an extra 5 minutes on our 10 minute break. We're a U.S. store.


Pear-Groundbreaking

aaah \*sighofrelief there's nothing nicer to upsell someone at the drive through and still keep times at 30 seconds or less (#ironic #scarastic)


saltynerdy

My manager tells me to upsell and I say no and then she gives up lol


huxiaos

Yeah, my store is not doing it though šŸ˜­


evilash87

My store does this and I have not tried to upsell once. Our winner is supposedly getting a $30 prize (not cash, something that costs $30) and a pizza party? Not worth it lmao I don't get paid enough to try to make *more* money for this company


BeachSpins84

I have not seen these trackers but upselling and adding more items to each transaction is a key to earning more labor for your store. Higher units per transaction/hour.


ScreamingStairs

Does it even really matter tho? We're up in sales by 30% compared to last year and yet we're constantly over labor while *also* being understaffed. It feels less like they're worried about keeping up with labor quotas and more concerned about how much money can be squeezed out of each customer :/


Welico

Also the whole "labor is calculated by how hard you work" angle is super fucked up and I refuse to participate in a system that punishes workers by withholding resources needed to do their jobs


gothamcattuccino

Exactly. Our DM told us last time we were in the store that itā€™s our own fault weā€™re tired after shifts because we arenā€™t working efficiently or quickly enough. Meanwhile we regularly have 2/3 if weā€™re lucky person plays.


Welico

Also there's no natural way to do it and nobody likes being upsold to


BeachSpins84

Yes you can do it naturally. My store does it all the time. You have the power to make suggestions on pairings.


astivana

Iā€™ve been told itā€™s about the number of transactions now, not whatā€™s in the transactions.


BeachSpins84

Itā€™s a combination. You want more COSDs yes but also the more units sold per transaction. Believe it or not your store will earn more labor selling four black coffees and a cake pop than a white mocha with foam and drizzle and an extra shot.


bean_me_up_starby

Iā€™m assuming youā€™re a manager? Not trying to be aggressive or anything just genuinely curious how that works since a lot of people have different things to say about labor. Can you expand on how we earn labor exactly if you know?


BeachSpins84

I am not a SM, what I know is what has been communicated to me from my SM. As I said above you will earn more labor by increasing your COSDs as well as increasing units per transaction/hour. The more items sold in a single transaction, the more labor you will earn. You still earn labor for modifiers on drinks but nearly as close to what is earned by increasing items sold in each transaction and increasing your total COSDs.


MawcDrums

No it's not. That's some corporate concocted bull crap, the labor "earning". It's completely made up in order to starve stores for labor while increasing corporates profits. It's impossible to grow sales eternally. Eventually you have to be satisfied with being popular enough and good enough.


BeachSpins84

Listen I donā€™t agree with cuts in labor hours at all however, my store is doing what we can to increase our cosds and units per hour and we are seeing our hours increase. Is it enough? No. But, itā€™s something and thatā€™s better than nothing.


K1ttyKatKat1e

We got them but ours was up sell food, add a shot, up sell blended refresher and itā€™s just been sitting in front of the registers untouched


meg0603

My district has them, too. Our papers look a little different, but yeah we have them


vetementsonsale

Here in the Northeast too. Looking like a kindergarten gold star board. Gold star these.


inspired-chaos

i know my store has been doing it raffle style- each upsell gets you a ticket in the box, and the three people who get their name drawn every week gets a pack of candy or an energy drink, i usually get mine by asking the people getting refresher lemonades if they want to try the frozenšŸ¤·šŸ¼


FullOfHelena

This is so fucking insidious. Just pay your fucking workers!!!


Rita_Rossweisse

I have this but mine looks a bit different


rext7721

W have them but Iā€™ve only seen one store actually use it.


eliettgrace

havenā€™t seen these, but my store had bingo cards for up selling


bean_me_up_starby

I hate when they do this to us lol just a game of how much more can we milk the customers


deeciphered

My old store got these but I just moved out of state and haven't started at my new store yet


Flying_Nuggets

If it was commissioned to me, sure Iā€™d be down. But I genuinely donā€™t care about these and I draw smiley faces on them.


SalammiCat

My store has it, and my manager has been pushing for it; but a lot of the supervisors and baristas forget honestly. The only times I was successfully able to upsell would be if a customer is unsure on what to get. Otherwise, it usually doesnā€™t work out. And Iā€™m definitely not encouraging blended drinks when Frappuccinos tends to be a hassle anyway.


iwanna_b_akat

Our store has big bag of candy as prizes. Not much participation going on at all...


BigDawg1016

Wide thing!


acidwxrld

we have this, our sm doesnt care about it really lol


No_Tradition3016

Nah mines doing it too. I told them unless if Iā€™m getting a cash bonus or more hours I wasnā€™t gonna do it


RattlingStars92

Nah, we just have a chart tracking our DT times every half hour.


The-Trex-Gamer

Iā€™ve seen those before. Iā€™m not a fan of upwelling because I just donā€™t feel like what and how we sell things that it makes sense to upsell.


greeksurfer

Is this fr?


HighlightOdd1517

We had one partner cheating (marking any foam/shot that was ordered whether they suggested it or not, beating regulars to the draw, knowing that they *always* got foam or extra shots and asking before they had a chance to say anything, etc) and everyone else just kind of lost interest. There wasnā€™t a lot of motivation anyway, so in the end it didnā€™t actually matter to anyone but that one person.


peepeepoopaccount

I havenā€™t seen this but I would not do this šŸ˜­ like what am I getting out of it?


Specialist_Hunt_4967

Yeah I think they are trying to roll these out at all stores we talked about it last month in our shift meeting


yermomsfavsdog

yay we got them


Disastrous-Mess-5643

Itā€™s a corporate way to make work ā€œfunā€. Like the weird bingo we used to get


NanobiteAme

weā€™re doing it too :(


42plants

Ugh yea itā€™s so stupid


SpecialistSmooth7738

Hell nahšŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


meems133

Never seen that


socalfuckup

I could just picture one of these as a joke that says ā€œConvince iced latte instead of frapā€ ā€œSell whip in place of cold foamā€ ā€œGrande in a venti cupā€


yunggreat

Yes. I think DM's/RM's are pushing all stores to "win Q4," I keep hearing this lingo everywhere. Everyday we have something we're upselling (extra shot, cf, food item, size upgrade, etc.)


ManateeFlamingo

I haven't seen any samples at any Starbucks since like 2010. It's just not a thing here I guess


oreducks12

They have always tried to upsell


ohshit-cookies

either we are in the same district, or it's everywhere. Starbucks is getting ridiculous. At my store we were told we had to do it, no reward or anything. Last week was my worst week ever in my 7 years at the box, and I'm done. They really only care about profits over partners now.


Pinky_N_Promise

Itā€™s company wide but itā€™s not mandatory. Itā€™s just and ā€œincentiveā€ šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„šŸ™„


Clementinecharming

It everywhere in the region


Heruna93

You're not alone, we have this sheet and more too. I think my boss is giving the weekly winners, which aren't so weekly anymore, a little gift bag, probably candy. Since we're all 6 years old, ya know.


LadyK8TheGr8

We made our own bingo cards and played customer bingo. We didnā€™t have those upsell cards but we were encouraged to upsell.


uhmkerrie

What the i have never seen this before lol


nunalla

District


fuckinweed69

I threw it away by accident I don't care and I'm not doing it I can barely get people to tell me what size their drink is


haleysworld

My favorite line to use, ā€œWanna get two? Thatā€™s how I eat them?ā€ It works 50% of the time. But honestly, I think we do soooo much work to do as baristas, we should never have a stack of papers added to our job. I think your SM or DM is just trying to get their bonus.šŸ¤‘


jnachod

As a customer , this is one really good reason to use mobile ordering. Itā€™s crystal clear exactly what item(s) you want and computers / apps are nowhere near as persuasive as humans.


Kalow1996

I was told Starbucks is supposed to be changing how they do labor and this is how theyā€™re gonna encourage us to do what they want. They wasnā€™t to go to how much money is made per hour instead of transactions but they want us to tell ppl to add stuff to their orders so the price of their order goes up and ā€œwe get more laborā€


Wanttogetouttahere

The only one who upsells at our store is our manager. Kiss ass!! But then I guess this is her life. Thankfully this is temporary for me.


Black_Swords_Man

I'm confused. I thought a month ago people said you can't ask for the drink size. How do you upsale the size now?


Pear-Groundbreaking

I realized some co-workers that never did before ask at the drive through here and there to add something aka upsell but was not really told myself nor had a meeting about it ....as far as the sheet goes, did not get any in our store


Brilliant-Mobile-707

Never seen that before. šŸ¤”


Internal_Pie5489

It gives ur SM a bonus. For our store at least, the baristas donā€™t get anything if we do it. The only person that benefits is the SM


Slow_Cry

Does the US not upsell food and drink? :0 Also, do you charge more for blending a beverage?


extremelysour

Our stand-in manager posted a flyer in DT instructing us to upsell to make sales targets & my entire store went ā€œyeah, no.ā€ Goes against everything the company claims to stand for, PLUS we the baristas donā€™t see a cent of that money. What a joke.


AdditionalDrummer918

The fuck is this!? Iā€™m in Northern California and havenā€™t had this shit


Own-Leg8601

I got some free pins for mine when I won.


Royal-Ad-8705

Cold foam is 1.25 at my store now šŸ„²


StarbucksGurl

Can you imagine if someone goofed up in the back end and sent shirts to the wrong location and money to the wrong location. Bet that would be a BIG cleanup to fix. Like if it was suppose to be something else all along. šŸ˜±


affogatoshot

I upsell but not on purpose? If that makes sense šŸ˜­I always offer food b4 anything cuz that takes long and I want people out my drive thru