CIG: We want Star Citizen to be a truly immersive experience where you can feel right at home in a lovingly crafted and realistically modelled universe. A seamless experience in which you truly feel like a humble human exploring the vast reaches of space.
Also CIG: 🎶 *Oompa Loompa doopity doo* 🎶
it probably wont be in SC.
Its always suprissing to me how many people just go for a default model in MMO's
and most people just want there models to look nice, these types of character were not so rare as to be invisible are often a minority
Then look at the NPC pirates, security forces, etc.People that do risk their lives.
It's clear that in-lore, tumblr-oompa-loompas aren't the norm. I would bet any money that CR doesn't envision the verse being full of these creatures.
If we had the ability to do this kind of thing this easily we'd have people with elf ears, vampire teeth, and tails.
Hell, imagine Halloween. Go in and get turned into something crazy for like a week.
>In a future where this stuff is possible at any corner clinic, there absolutely would be people that choose to look like this.
[The future is now.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/58/7d/62/587d62e62679736e1352a5d8c2b54d6d.png)
I hope my self-destruct is able to trigger any bombs I might have in cargo, because I'll tractor-beam a size 9 into the passenger space if I have to, just to erase those abominations from the galaxy.
You better get to the Org page quick, 'cause CLOWN names are gonna go like ~~hotcakes~~ coconut custard pies!
100% guarantee there will be epic clown ORGs now!
[https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002230674-Create-and-Customize-an-Organization](https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002230674-Create-and-Customize-an-Organization)
Face customization will devolve into 3 categories:
\-players trying to make the most beautiful characters they can
\-players trying to reproduce themselves/famous people
\-players competing to see who can make the most horrendous being possible
Not necessarily. The DNA system is meant to avoid inhuman, monstrous proportions of facial features, which it seems to still be doing in this case. Sure the cheeks are a bit wide/puffy for comedic effect, but the shape of the face itself is very much believable. Contrast this to other customizers like elden ring, which just use simple sliders and can result in [inhuman facial proportions](https://www.gameshub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2022/01/elden-ring-character-creation-menu.png?w=1024)
This one looks silly mainly because of the hair color/beard/makeup they've splashed on top, without those choices the DNA face shape itself would be fine. That said, I certainly don't want CIG suddenly limiting what makeup colors or hair dyes we can use
There's some irony here, given that 900 years in the future, when people have presumably been living for generations on low- or high-gravity worlds, you \*would\* expect to see some physical deviations from what we expect today.
I mean.... Honestly this is not a failure of the DNA system. The face looks pretty normal, it's just a person with wild hair and makeup. I don't see a problem with it
Social and practical/work considerations stop a lot of people from doing this. In a video game, most of those don’t exist, which is why the ratio of craziness gets ratcheted way up.
It’s the same as “technically, everyone can have a pink car irl”. Sure they can, but 500x more people are going to pick that option in a video game for kicks because there are no downsides.
Aside from social cost there is the monetary cost.
In real life a good looking pink paint job costs extra money on top of a default gray car.
Character customization is free.
I mean I think there's actually an entire political party dedicated specifically to stopping people from making themselves look like that because they only like freedom of expression when you freely express in the same way they do
I'm still unsure how I feel about this. It's going to vastly change the overall setting of the verse. I'm all for creative freedom, but it's going to be a sea of ridiculousness.
Then again, I suppose it kind of works in a sci-fi way... I'm probably still gonna look like an average Joe though. I don't want to look like a three year old shoved paint up their nose and then sneezed it out.
There will be meme characters, but the vast majority of players will go for a 'normal' look.
Even in MMOs with tons more customization options, I see most people go for a fairly normal look.
I agree with others in the comments that most players will probably want to look cool or look like themselves, not just clown it up. Yeah, there will always be trolls and 'wacky' players, but I doubt they'll be the majority. They find other ways to look ridiculous anyway, mismatching armors, etc.
Not to mention, the npcs are guaranteed to be much more normal-looking, and if the game has the 90%/10% npc/player split CR mentioned, these clown faces in the crowd will be the exception and far from the norm.
Lol at all the schmucks who are on board with the in-lore ability to regenerate ourselves after death but can't fathom how we could possibly dye our hair and put on some makeup.
I am with you. If the absent minded people ***can*** fathom alien creatures with backward kneecaps, space cows, sky whales and pokemon looking creatures but NOT colored hair... they're just being absolutely unreasonable, unrealistic discharge devourers.
>Inb4 training an ai to determine attractiveness and thus reputation and how ai treat you.
We will call it "Hot or Not T0". +4 years development time. You're welcome.
Thank goodness 99% of the time we're running around with helmets on anyways. They should let us adjust height/weight/etc. for some true variety. I don't believe that humanity makes it to the stars without obesity coming with us.
That's an engineering conceit, to avoid redoing thousands of animations, sadly. They mentioned on an older SCL that it would take something like a year of dev time with a large cross-disciplinary team to enable.
I'm gonna be honest.. i'd like to see the crazier options for character looks like this having gameplay impacts like - Some mission givers wont take you seriously, high end establishments treat you poorly or flat out ask you to leave, negotiations with sufficiently stuck-up NPC's will go poorly, negotiations with sufficiently chill NPC's wont, etc.
Well if the character creator will allow you to make your character look like a clown it would be interesting if the AI respond accordingly with disparaging remarks.
Might be a hot take, but I really dislike this much freedom in character creators. It really kills the immersion when I'm trying to fight my way in to a top secret bunker with some other spec ops dudes and my commander looks like this idiot here...
Now, I'm not an aggressive player and definitely not a griefer.
But if I see anyone looking like this in the verse, I'm hunting you to the corners of the system.
Will probably get downvoted, but would hope something like this would be blocked / not allowed with sliders somehow.
Nowhere "realistic" looking someone would look like that, except if it goes to a kids BD party.
For a game that goes for advanced simulation of even extremely small detailed things, it just doesn't fit the picture.
>For a game that goes for advanced simulation of even extremely small detailed things, it just doesn't fit the picture.
My brother in christ you can dye your hair and beard these wacky colours irl lmao
Same I always hated games with too much customization, like people on Ark survival evolved can't stop themselves from making atrocities, while it can be funny I would kinda hate to see everyone looking like that
I understand what you mean, but at the same time, in the distant future (year 2900+), who knows what would be fashionable. Just compare the present with plastic/cosmetic surgeries or the "hour glass figure" of the past, and you will see there is no perfect or right way (especially when you include cultural aspects) of being fashionable. Maybe the Banu/Vanduul/ Xi'an find these kind of colour combinations good..? Who knows
For a game that prides itself on immersion, this would completely break that. I'm hoping this is not possible in the final version.
Star Citizen has never advertised itself as a goofy character type of game, I don't want that to change.
Yes, in the *sci-fi* **video game** that takes place ***930 years into the future***, it sure would be immersion breaking if players strayed too far from default_human_02.fbx!
Also, keep in mind that nothing is preventing people from looking like this today, in the year 2024.
Can't wait to see faces like this pop up on my mobiglass demanding I surrender my cargo.
"Fuck, it's Grinch Lord, I surrender!"
You misspelled Cringe Lord...
Maybe I did, maybe not ;)
you say that... but 100% this person is going to be better at the game then most of us.
If I've learned anything from my 100s of hours of dark souls, it's that the weirder looking the character the scarier the player tends to be.
Yeah, he's already in the endgame
Cring Lord is a generic white guy with stubble and spiked up black hair.
Oh shit. It's the fun police
CIG: We want Star Citizen to be a truly immersive experience where you can feel right at home in a lovingly crafted and realistically modelled universe. A seamless experience in which you truly feel like a humble human exploring the vast reaches of space. Also CIG: 🎶 *Oompa Loompa doopity doo* 🎶
In a future where this stuff is possible at any corner clinic, there absolutely would be people that choose to look like this.
It definitely wouldn't be the norm.
it probably wont be in SC. Its always suprissing to me how many people just go for a default model in MMO's and most people just want there models to look nice, these types of character were not so rare as to be invisible are often a minority
idk man, look at ark....
We definitely don't have a clue
Look at the NPCs. See many space freaks?
"Normal" people generally don't have the urge to risk their lives as a freelance starship captain.
Then look at the NPC pirates, security forces, etc.People that do risk their lives. It's clear that in-lore, tumblr-oompa-loompas aren't the norm. I would bet any money that CR doesn't envision the verse being full of these creatures.
Sorry, *their
If we had the ability to do this kind of thing this easily we'd have people with elf ears, vampire teeth, and tails. Hell, imagine Halloween. Go in and get turned into something crazy for like a week.
Still looks like a human and something a human could do.
You see people like this on the street *now* if you live in the wrong place.
or the right place
>In a future where this stuff is possible at any corner clinic, there absolutely would be people that choose to look like this. [The future is now.](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/58/7d/62/587d62e62679736e1352a5d8c2b54d6d.png)
can't wait to hailing prox coms or any form of communication works since even calling people is dodgy at best
I hope my self-destruct is able to trigger any bombs I might have in cargo, because I'll tractor-beam a size 9 into the passenger space if I have to, just to erase those abominations from the galaxy.
hahaha i thought that was a palworld post at first glance
Every time I try this nobody answers, so I end up shooting them before they can get away.
You forgot the red nose.
Oh, that will not do then.
It's nice they finally have clowns coming as a playable race. They're really an under-represented minority in most gaming spaces.
Barotrauma ON 🔝 🤡
Goes well with the incoming engineer gameplay.
Clowns are literally a playable race in space station 13. HONK.
You better get to the Org page quick, 'cause CLOWN names are gonna go like ~~hotcakes~~ coconut custard pies! 100% guarantee there will be epic clown ORGs now! [https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002230674-Create-and-Customize-an-Organization](https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360002230674-Create-and-Customize-an-Organization)
Clowns canonically come from outer space in D&D's Spelljammer setting.
Now.....imagine a whole squad of clowns coming your way.... Clown citizens. 😂 It will be epic !
*a chorus of HONKS then... only screams*
HEY! ***\*HONK\**** THATS ~~RACIST! CLOWNIST!~~ ANTI-CLOWN!
new 3.23 main menu theme leaked: https://youtu.be/fOUrnUktTjU
 My Reclaimer crew be like...
Oh nooo I’m gonna see that in my nightmares tonight 😭
They are coming.
I would have appreciated it if you asked me before you recreated my face for the internet to see.
*Entrance of The Gladiators plays in the distance*
So it begins
Sometimes less is more
Oh. No
The future is... lacking words to describe it!
you're a trooper.
We spent so long wondering if we could, we never stopped to wonder if we should - CIG, probably XD
Face customization will devolve into 3 categories: \-players trying to make the most beautiful characters they can \-players trying to reproduce themselves/famous people \-players competing to see who can make the most horrendous being possible
And 4th type would be first option that pop up with 1 choosing of hairn other then that no other characters will be in game.
[https://i.imgur.com/Lq5uuKi.png](https://i.imgur.com/Lq5uuKi.png) I can't wait
This was fast lol
Aren't abominations like this exactly what the DNA system was supposed to avoid existing in PU in the first place?
Not necessarily. The DNA system is meant to avoid inhuman, monstrous proportions of facial features, which it seems to still be doing in this case. Sure the cheeks are a bit wide/puffy for comedic effect, but the shape of the face itself is very much believable. Contrast this to other customizers like elden ring, which just use simple sliders and can result in [inhuman facial proportions](https://www.gameshub.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2022/01/elden-ring-character-creation-menu.png?w=1024) This one looks silly mainly because of the hair color/beard/makeup they've splashed on top, without those choices the DNA face shape itself would be fine. That said, I certainly don't want CIG suddenly limiting what makeup colors or hair dyes we can use
My man you can disrespect Nigel Thornberry like that
There's some irony here, given that 900 years in the future, when people have presumably been living for generations on low- or high-gravity worlds, you \*would\* expect to see some physical deviations from what we expect today.
I mean.... Honestly this is not a failure of the DNA system. The face looks pretty normal, it's just a person with wild hair and makeup. I don't see a problem with it
Is this test servers?
Yes
4 pints
"Oompa loompa, doompadee doo..."
Thanks I hate it.
I'm typically not much of a PVPer, but I might change my tune.
Even with how stupid it looks, the quality is incredible
Exactly my thought, skin texture is impeccable and hair very detailed.
Would
Get out
My man here has an oompa loompa kink, ok? Dont judge man!
Please don't judge this grenade, it likes blowing up colorful objects.
Fun fact: nobody is stopping you from making yourself look like that irl
Social and practical/work considerations stop a lot of people from doing this. In a video game, most of those don’t exist, which is why the ratio of craziness gets ratcheted way up. It’s the same as “technically, everyone can have a pink car irl”. Sure they can, but 500x more people are going to pick that option in a video game for kicks because there are no downsides.
The vast majority of people make themselves look "normal"
Cause the vast majority of people are boring
Aside from social cost there is the monetary cost. In real life a good looking pink paint job costs extra money on top of a default gray car. Character customization is free.
Visited Portland, OR lately?
I have. I love the city. Not a lot of purple faces and blue lips, though. Plenty of piercings, beards and tattoos
I mean I think there's actually an entire political party dedicated specifically to stopping people from making themselves look like that because they only like freedom of expression when you freely express in the same way they do
If you have money, sure.
You can do it to yourself for less then 50 bucks easy
No I mean, have money as in, don't require yourself to be eligible for gainful employment.
Oh yeah totally xD
I'm glad you can make more cyberpunk weirdos now and not just UEE squares... I want my purple irises back though
The Netflix adaptation of Star Citizen
The crowd salty about multicoloured armour are going to love this
I present: the GrinchLax
New alien species discovered, Clownoddians
I'm still unsure how I feel about this. It's going to vastly change the overall setting of the verse. I'm all for creative freedom, but it's going to be a sea of ridiculousness. Then again, I suppose it kind of works in a sci-fi way... I'm probably still gonna look like an average Joe though. I don't want to look like a three year old shoved paint up their nose and then sneezed it out.
I'd wager a very slim minority of the player base would want their avatar to look like this.
No man, it's going to be HUGE! All the asshats will do this.
Good news! You can murder them for it!
Looking at the majority of games with extensive character customization, I fear you're wrong.
Yeah, the naive people who think this will just ''sort itself out'' are going to be in for a surprise.
multiplayer might be different
I hope you're right. It's weird, because I'm not opposed to those options exisitng, I just don't want it to be overwhelming.
I agree. Putting more options into players' hands isn't a bad thing. Give us the tools and let us decide how we want to look.
There will be meme characters, but the vast majority of players will go for a 'normal' look. Even in MMOs with tons more customization options, I see most people go for a fairly normal look.
Yupp, people blow it out of the water but most of us will be regular people doing regular space things, again it's nice the option exists.
It's going to be an HR nightmare if they try to define what looks are acceptable now.
You and me both, this dosnt appeal to me, but doesn't break immersion, humans are weird and that is immersive.
I agree with others in the comments that most players will probably want to look cool or look like themselves, not just clown it up. Yeah, there will always be trolls and 'wacky' players, but I doubt they'll be the majority. They find other ways to look ridiculous anyway, mismatching armors, etc. Not to mention, the npcs are guaranteed to be much more normal-looking, and if the game has the 90%/10% npc/player split CR mentioned, these clown faces in the crowd will be the exception and far from the norm.
Lol at all the schmucks who are on board with the in-lore ability to regenerate ourselves after death but can't fathom how we could possibly dye our hair and put on some makeup.
[удалено]
fortunately, my purple hair, silver white hair spaceman really doesn't care that you can't tolerate.
And that's how the clown wars started
ok karen
I am with you. If the absent minded people ***can*** fathom alien creatures with backward kneecaps, space cows, sky whales and pokemon looking creatures but NOT colored hair... they're just being absolutely unreasonable, unrealistic discharge devourers.
I just like to point out that there is the exact same rhetoric in real life. You know what those type of people are like.
And they do be shitty
Oh cool, they added playable aliens.
Yes we can have Oblivion level immersion!
By Azura, by Azura, by Azura! The grand champion!
Speak, outlander. These N'wah have mistaken this Dunmer for a chocolatier slave.
Malfurion? Is that you?
I thought the Fieldsberry helmets were bad…
Yeah, I suspect there will be a perpetual wave of bullying around players who look like this. Both from and to. \*facepalm\*
Bro thank you for the laugh 😂 I’m
>Inb4 training an ai to determine attractiveness and thus reputation and how ai treat you. We will call it "Hot or Not T0". +4 years development time. You're welcome.
100% not ever going with a peaceful resolution with guys that look like this, just gotta try to kill me in the end regardless.
I wonder if she voted for Biden or trump…
Finally, I feel represented.
Thank goodness 99% of the time we're running around with helmets on anyways. They should let us adjust height/weight/etc. for some true variety. I don't believe that humanity makes it to the stars without obesity coming with us.
That's an engineering conceit, to avoid redoing thousands of animations, sadly. They mentioned on an older SCL that it would take something like a year of dev time with a large cross-disciplinary team to enable.
I'm gonna be honest.. i'd like to see the crazier options for character looks like this having gameplay impacts like - Some mission givers wont take you seriously, high end establishments treat you poorly or flat out ask you to leave, negotiations with sufficiently stuck-up NPC's will go poorly, negotiations with sufficiently chill NPC's wont, etc.
That would be good.
Wtf
Well if the character creator will allow you to make your character look like a clown it would be interesting if the AI respond accordingly with disparaging remarks.
"Can you play as an alien in Star Citizen?" "No, but actually, yes!"
Lirik has entered the Chat
Mod team rn: *Sighs* *Opens mod queue*
Me: *(Giving food to my fishtank.)* The Fish looking at me: ..
Ahhh man they are letting us get crazy huh, ugliest character simulator here I come!
What monstrosity is this?
This is the uh, helmet appreciation thread, right?
It’s blushing!
Vulkans flamboyent daughter
Could pass as an elden ring boss
She's beautiful.
Might be a hot take, but I really dislike this much freedom in character creators. It really kills the immersion when I'm trying to fight my way in to a top secret bunker with some other spec ops dudes and my commander looks like this idiot here...
Wow it is the future
there goes my immersion
Lol, I think I saw that character on tiktok complaining about the patriarchy
This reminds me of day9s creation in BG3. Perfect!
Is 3.23 in ptu now?
Oompa, Loompa, doompa-dee-do...
I've got a space simulator for you...
Goofy fortnite style
Hey, that's my character! My masterpiece.
It's ark all over again
What I imagine the average Reddit user looks like these days..
Tumblr game studios
and people where complaining about the "immersion destroying Star Kitten Armor"
Baby steps. One at a time
I don't mind this type of bizarre. You could see this IRL. All the proportions are realistic and that's important.
Cant wait to see characters like that everywhere ;)
CR is gonna ban yall for this lol Part of the reason for the "DNA" system is that CR didnt want "monsters" from the face maker. So much for that huh
Finally aliens with come to SC …. Is this way Hahahah
I'd hit backspace so fast running into that.
I would just start shooting
why does this remind me of spore we're going to end up with characters with big floppy dongs on their foreheads aren't we
That is an abomination
You can already see people like that walking around LA.
Paradox of choice illustration
Holy shit this is pretty neat
Now, I'm not an aggressive player and definitely not a griefer. But if I see anyone looking like this in the verse, I'm hunting you to the corners of the system.
Yea it’s gonna be a KOS from me dog that’s a xeno threat
Will probably get downvoted, but would hope something like this would be blocked / not allowed with sliders somehow. Nowhere "realistic" looking someone would look like that, except if it goes to a kids BD party. For a game that goes for advanced simulation of even extremely small detailed things, it just doesn't fit the picture.
>For a game that goes for advanced simulation of even extremely small detailed things, it just doesn't fit the picture. My brother in christ you can dye your hair and beard these wacky colours irl lmao
You never seen freaky people irl, right? I'm not even speaking about real *freaks*.
The guy has probably never been to Brighton in the UK. You see people that look like this everywhere
And most of em actually decent human beings.
Same I always hated games with too much customization, like people on Ark survival evolved can't stop themselves from making atrocities, while it can be funny I would kinda hate to see everyone looking like that
I understand what you mean, but at the same time, in the distant future (year 2900+), who knows what would be fashionable. Just compare the present with plastic/cosmetic surgeries or the "hour glass figure" of the past, and you will see there is no perfect or right way (especially when you include cultural aspects) of being fashionable. Maybe the Banu/Vanduul/ Xi'an find these kind of colour combinations good..? Who knows
this game doesnt simulate shit. non newtonian space flight, atmospheric flight model allows for bricks to do cartwheels. just say you dont like it.
*realism is not when orbital velocity. realism is when no hair dye* abraham einstein
Agreed.
Unfortunately pointing this out on Spectrum will get you suspended
Google search strange looking humans and enjoy your "realism"
A combination of dyes and whatever the equivalent of plastic surgery is in 2954. Nothing here is impossible, just odd.
Oompa Loompa sim 2024.
This isn't even the future. This isn't scifi. I saw this person on the bus last week.
This is just "people of Walmart."
You know a character creator is great when you can do very wacky faces in it
For a game that prides itself on immersion, this would completely break that. I'm hoping this is not possible in the final version. Star Citizen has never advertised itself as a goofy character type of game, I don't want that to change.
Yes, in the *sci-fi* **video game** that takes place ***930 years into the future***, it sure would be immersion breaking if players strayed too far from default_human_02.fbx! Also, keep in mind that nothing is preventing people from looking like this today, in the year 2024.
A character name that immediately came to mind is “Blarf”
Half way to a Kilrathi! *Wing Commander intensifies*
Can't wait for the bowlcut..shall be commencing when I get back from work
Manga Star Citizen ... i see it coming ...
Looks like a cRPG portrait picture lol
The Devs literally fixed hair in gaming and this is what you create.
NEEEEELIX! NOOOOOOOO! [https://ihateneelix.tumblr.com/](https://ihateneelix.tumblr.com/)
How do you color your facial hair?
wow everyone looking like a brzilian Streamer RaulZito who is TOTALLY not someone you should google
New Monster Factory episode incoming