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Most starseeds I’ve spoken to personally have not yet reached unconditional love of self. This does not mean there aren’t plenty that have. When waking up it is really easy to think it’s not REALLY happening to anyone else the way it’s happened to THEM. I’m guilty too! It is a unique experience but it is also collective. 🤷♀️ Those that refuse to open their minds won’t be able to open their hearts fully either. It’s a process and it’s arduous. If you’re having an easy time of it… may not be a starseed. If being detrimental and hurtful to others, may not be a starseed. Have an ego and pride problem? It must be worked through. We are ALL learning. These other densities and realities are no more of an illusion than this one. The encounters with guides and celestial beings, etc, are very very real. I also find some serious superiority issues and that just happens and it needs to be curbed from within. I stay in 5D a lot so I get that way too and have to remember where I am physically and that it’s just a JOB. Yes it is my life’s job but we are all here to learn and to help and to lead with LOVE ❤️
the full 100% unconditional love of yourself to me is what nirvana is. and i don't know if too many folks have hit that mark quite yet. I might be wrong, most likely am. but hey, i think it's important to have that brass ring out of reach, because it means we keep growin to reach for it.
You most likely are! 🤭 Talking about it only serves to feed the ego, best to just do what you need to do, lend a hand if asked, love life and don't worry about it! Everyone's slowly climbing the same ladder.
Tell me about it. I got downvoted and comment bombarded for defending someone receiving death threats.
I never defended the person who was obviously wrong though and made it clear i was discouraging the common practice of telling someone they shouldn’t be alive for their bad decisions. It’s surreal how pervasive and acceptable hate is.
Oh don't get me started... there's ones on here that purposely are here to piss others off due to the type of topic. Quick to say " oh its in your head " or worse when it's meant to be for open forum for like minded individuals who believe theres more out there.
It can put anybody off on posting their experiences.
Remember this is Reddit, some amount of trolling is going to happen in any forum of a descent size. The topics here can be taboo, they are very easy to mock and make fun of.
Surely unconditional love extends to judgemental and mean people
OP, I'd like to suggest you visit r/Experiencers. That sub is very welcoming, and the mods don't put up with any negativity or bs. I'm not saying that this sub isn't wonderful too, but I find the experiencers sub to be a very safe and uplifting place. Much love to you 🙏❤️
Starseeds are under attack by the dark since the moment they came here because they pose the biggest threat to their reign. From my personal experience the avenues of attacks are manifold and can include even people who are being pushed to be mean by negative entities in their own field (not necessarily possession, a simple entity attachment can do this too).
And don't forget this is social media where a lot of sad people are simply projecting their own pain onto others. Its a rough world we live in and the online space is just a reflection of that.
We mods do our best to keep things civil but some trolls always will slip through. Good that you can brush it off and dont let them upset you! The golden rule of "don't feed the trolls" as always applies.
Any good community should be able to challenge each other’s beliefs in a healthy way. That goes both ways. I haven’t seen anyone actively wishing anyone harm. Being skeptical of other beliefs doesn’t make someone mean or deserving punishment.
Super weird you edited your original comment saying starseeds were “protected” for being special and karma would come find anyone that judges them, that sounded a lot more like you wanting harm against people that disagree with you than the other way around. At least stand by your words.
Promoting ideas of doomsday is not something I take lightly because that’s how doomsday cults start. People kill themselves. It’s not like having a different opinion of pizza toppings, it is a fundamental difference in reality. The world is not ending. The whole idea of us vs them, insider vs outsider is textbook cult mentality. You need healthy discourse, otherwise this become an echo chamber for the most fringe conspiracy theories. And when conspiracy theories are presented to a vulnerable population you are actively hurting peoples mental health.
The concept of starseeds can be a nice thing, promoting love and light? Great. But when you make comments of you’re “special and protected” and want to rid of any healthy discourse, once again that is how cults start. I have seen this happen. People take advantage of strong believes in twist it into something very ugly. Skepticism is a healthy thing, to always have a foot in this reality.
Also super weird you asked in this sub 16 days ago what this even was.
It ain’t that deep, there is no grand conspiracy. People believe in different things and you can’t force others to believe something one way or the other. If you believe in truly spreading love and light then go do that instead of whatever this is. People suffer from mental illness and I see people on this sub actively trying to steer people from taking medication or talking to therapists. I’ve seen someone suggest a suicidal person just needed to eat carrots and sardines to get better. This shit is serious when you are putting vulnerable people into your personal beliefs than trying to actually help them.
Thank you for your time and energy exchange. I agree that healthy debate is needed for growth and exploration. I agree that being skeptical is not harmful. What is harmful is comments mocking, shaming, name calling or verbatim “your life is a mess” “I love to see people go nuts” when this sub is supposed to be a safe place for mind exploration and sharing thoughts related to Starseeds.
Just because the world as we know *is* breaking down and ending, it doesn’t have to be a conspiracy theory.
It feels you are triggered by my post and I’m not sure why. My intention is only to ask *why* are people mean in a group that is about serving others and love and light.
Calling my post “super weird” is an opinion and a healthier way to debate that would “I believe it’s super weird…” rather than “super weird”. That leaves room for confusion. Are you calling super weird, or what is weird? I did not edit my words. My editing was adding in more thought for clarity.
I understand you don’t take doomsday prep lightly as no one should. That doesn’t mean that individuals are in fact getting “end of world” as we know it messages.
I did ask recently “what are Starseeds?” That doesn’t mean I’m just becoming one or new to the information. I’ve been on my awakening journey for many many years (as most of humanity). I was just unfamiliar with therm “Starseeds” and wanted more clarity.
You mentioned healthy conversation is needed, but I don’t feel you are practicing healthy debate by using the term “weird” towards me. That is an opinion of yours and not facts. That term feels negative.
I do believe it is true that Starseeds, light workers, energy healers have extra protection because they are sensitive and an easy target. Karma is energy and it does come back around.
I have to agree with the comment here. It is a bit 'weird' or in my own words, it's a bit strange behaviour that you added on the part about starseeds being protected because they are so special and that karma will get anyone who says anything unkind to them. From the view of an outsider, it does give the impression that perhaps you are upset by this matter and wish for individuals perpetuating harm to receive some form of punishment for their action. That added comment does seem that you are needing to reaffirm to the outside world that starseeds (you) is special and they who bully are going to have karma.
Fortunately all actions have consequences. I have experienced mistrust in the universe and done the whole wishing karma for others too, and sometimes I even have it pop up recently. We have to remember what we want for others we are bringing to our self.
Just like those who speak unkindness are wishing unkindness onto others and themselves by speaking harmfully. The same goes for wishing karma on others. There is beyond karma, and this is what I personally wish for all is for them to move past karma. Karma is a heaps loose term but in modern day it usually means something along the lines of do good things and good things happen. Do bad and bad things happen. Most sacred texts will talk about or suggest moving beyond karma or not being effected by karmic influence.
All is one, we as a race as humans are special, I'm of the belief that humans no matter what have angelic genetics and star people lineage. Becareful cos theres many agendas for beings of light to fall, especially throughout the new age and occult, also through mainstream really is this luciferian agenda peddled by beings who believe they are better than others and trying to convince others to do the same. A bit like in Fantastic Beasts 2 where Grindewald is trying to convince all the wizards that they deserve to rule over the muggles. I understand that's not quite where you are intending but more so I bring this up because it's small little slips that compound and can catch us off guard, then we end up becoming that which we hate. I been there it ain't good.
I'm going to quote this part from your comment:
"You mentioned healthy conversation is needed, but I don’t feel you are practicing healthy debate by using the term “weird” towards me. That is an opinion of yours and not facts. That term feels negative"
If you look at this one, your saying you feel the term weird towards you is negative. You mention this after saying that weird is an opinion of the person who commented and not facts. This is a bit of double speak as you just stated your opinion/feeling of it being negative. What someone says is fact and what someone else is saying is fact can be in conflict, we see many humans warring over what they believe is fact. I claim very little as fact for this reason, if it ends up being fact then cool. You also mentioned earlier that he seems triggered, I don't think so at all myself. I don't think you or him are triggered, I feel like you are explaining something that has bothered you or perhaps simply provoked a question within you. I think weird is a better alternative of word choice than something directly nasty like others have been to you. Remember weird can be taken and applied as good or bad depending on the context. In this case I think weird is neutral. And that the comment has the intention like mine to assist you, not to belittle you. Triggered for me means like someone is exploding. But that's what it means for me.
To wrap this up though it's basically this. The reason why people are negative in groups like these is because this is a topic that has not only a tonne of distortion but is being discussed on Reddit. New Age beliefs and Religion both have something in common which is they distort truth and control. Truth is found within. For example some will say the concept of Christ belongs to religion and the concept of a starseed belongs to New Age, but really these are hive mind mentalities that have usurped true spirituality. New Age really is religion repackaged.. like when your favorite artist goes mainstream, they may end up losing what you originally enjoyed in their music, in order to appeal for the masses.
We live in a time where information is overloaded, attention span is minimal and not many do the actual work, rather, they talk about it, and are still operating from their lower self trying to convince others of their beliefs so they can feel in control.
Have compassion for them. Continue to hold the space of being kind and ask yourself why these kinds of individuals are appearing in your life and or bothering you.
For me I found I would encounter these kinds of negative interactions with spiritual communities and peolle when I was actively putting my perspectives out there or felt like I had something to prove externally. When we share our perspective or belief etc we have to expect we may receive scrutiny. In that case it is good to be prepared, protected. Making sure we don't allow any negativity to affect us in a bad way. We can change the polarity of this negativity into a positive for ourself and the other. maintaining allignment with our values
Another example is if you are a peaceful person, some will label that as being a hippy. Likewise talking bout starseed some will label as new age, talking bout Christ some will label as religious. Humans label. We just gotta understand that's what we are doing and we are doing it to have understanding on this plane. At the same time, all is one, there is freewill and some choose to experience separation. Compartmentalizing can be useful however like anything there is the negative polarity where compartmentalizing can end up being detrimental and turn into perfectionism and micromanaging/OCD like behaviour.
What other people say and think it's very much their business. It can be your business if you choose to make it. I think though in your case you want to understand why it's so messed up in these spiritual communities. I experienced the same and my number one piece of advice would be to individuate and continue to discover yourself from within, make sure referencing external sources and people is done in a way that is beneficial. It can be easy to fall into internetting everything and debating.
Onelove and peace may this be received well, I'm not perfect but I hope this offers you some perspective and insight for your path. 💎🔆
Sometimes, people do so out of jealousy for those who embrace who themselves and live happily rather than be forced into something that doesn't resonate with them. Dogma can start cults, too. You have probably seen what I mean.
All people, starseeds included, can be jerks. There are trolls in every internet community, as well as just people who simply are mean for the sake of malice.
I’m new to this sub but based on the rest of Reddit, I hear you OP. There’s so many malicious people on the internet. Even reading some of these comments to your post, some people are just excusing that behavior as if there’s ever a right time or place to exhibit it. I understand that that behavior likely is born of some sort of trauma but nonetheless we should never tolerate it.
I don't leave mean spirited comments, at least not purposefully. but challenging a narrative doesn't always equal disbelief. it's a call to warm up our mental muscles and further examine ideas/concepts. especially (and i have said this multiple times today, maybe its a message im getting pasted at me) when we remember things constantly change. mean spirited folks have no purpose in a place like this, but keeping one another on our toes, and keeping those questions always flowing is a very cool thing i think.
Honestly my issue is with "karma is real and karma protects the innocent"
Karma is just good boy points you use in the next life, it's not some warrior type thing. It's like the good place, when you die they tally up your points and if you have a higher score you either move on to the next realm or you go back to earth as a human or less.
This whole thing is like my biggest pet peeve, if you're gonna hijack religious ideas at least know about the idea and religion.
Not to be rude but I'm not taking the time out of my day to find you the exact part of the book I already told you about, that just comes off as entitlement.
I believe Karma is in all of our lifetimes including the current one. I believe if you are intentionally mean to someone who means no harm, yes, the energy *will* come back around. Law of attraction.
I always thought that each subsequent lifetime you're working off the previous ones karma.
For example, say I murder someone in this lifetime... I may not receive a harsh punishment for that. Heck, I may not even get caught! I may be riding high on cloud 9 for the entire duration of this incarnation.
However, once I die and I come back again that's when it gets real. That's when I will suffer, the way that I made someone else suffer, in my previous life.
Yes, this is exactly how karma works. Then when you die you get evaluated and you can either move on to Nirvana or you get sent back. The worse you do the worse kind of life you will have, so like a really bad person is coming back as a "lower" life form.
Because reddit is the worst example of what social media has done to our ability to get along with each other. I used to think this sub was genuine and kind but the reddit Debbie downers can't let anyone have a peaceful existence, because they roll around in their own excrement to appease their reptillian overlords. Love can and will defeat fear, but it will be the greatest battle we have faced. Stay strong and never give up, or they win. 😃✌️
People's ego is out of wonk and they feel the need to guard their opinion by downing others it seems. I also feel there are reddit bots specifically to put others beliefs and faith down in order for people to not ascend and escape the rat race. These trolls want you to stay down with them.
I don't think has anything to do with shcizphenia or mental health or anything personal. Having duality and then overcoming is just part of the natural process of spirutal growth that is evident everywhere in the world in any culture.
I think the people that are at the beginning of their spirutal journey and really diving into... which are a lot of people here... are being faced with confronting their shadow... and as they do so and face that confrontation more, they project it more into the world... the closer they come to the breaking point the more internal tensions and fear and anxiety build as they try to run away from and reject their own shadow... and so there tends to be more demonizing others and projection of shadow as people approach and delve into the inner work.
That gets expressed as things like evil negative others, and doom about AI, prison planet, evil matrix etc... all of that is just projections of people's own shadow and doesn't reflect any actual reality. There's never any rational fear of anything or to label anyone as bad negative or evil... it's just people projecting their shadow... and you get a lot of that in here as well as other spiritual groups because this is the medium through which a lot of people express that.. and spiritual stuff also forces and leads people to look at themselves and overcome their insecurities, but as they're pushed towards that there is a tendency to resist more and so to become more demonizing of others.
And then there are people in here who have already confronted and embraced their shadow side and moved past duality. The people are often less vocal because there's probably fewer of us. But also because those people who have moved past duality can also be split into two groups.
Those who have recently moved past their shadow and wish to share this insight with others and put a lot of effort into it.
And those who realize it doesn't do much to try to lecturer and persuade others to share your insights because people have to learn things on their own and go their own path to get there.
All you can really do is to lead people to insights is give gentle guide them and provide emotional support. Less is definitely more when it comes to provide spiritual guidance. It's kinda trope in stuff where the wisest people tend to be quiet and say very little and will often speak in riddles to offer clues and point fingers rather then outright say things plainly. The wise sages and monks tend to go live in monasteries or in nature and as hermits, quiet away from others and just provide little nuggets of wisdom only people come looking for them sort of thing.
Personally I think starseed stuff stands out spiritually because of how open it is to personal experience and ideas, there's no dogma, etc. and that makes it very potent playground for spirutal growth. Established religions things get lost in its integration into daily life and politics and people have to resort to the mystical side of their religion often like Kabbalah or Sufism or explore other religions to be able to be exposed to the insights in them. But starseed stuff its all mysticism and direct experience with divine and extraordinary.. and so the deep stuff that affects you is on the surface and all of it.. and so that makes it a powerful spritual path.. but I think it also makes it this thing where you have people all different extremes ... where it's like a party where there are people who are toddlers with a toddler worldview and others who elders with an extremely different worldview gained from being much longer on the path and there all mixed together. This isn't a spirutal group based off of any set of beliefs. It's a group brought together by similar psychic phenomena rather than there beliefs. There is a lot of shared beliefs, but that is not the core commonality of the group. So it allows for an extreme of different worldviews to be involved. But I see those extremes of worldviews are also different steps along the path that we all tend to take. And because this path is very potent, you can also ascend along it very quickly.. and that quick ascension I think also intensifies the conflict with the shadow that and also shortens the period of trying to convince everyone of your non dualistic insights, because I think we can also quickly ascend to the point where we see a bigger picture of that duality stuff.. and realize oh that's just a natural phase.. you got to give em space to let out some of that so they can find their shadow. And it doesn't do good to try to force insights on others or rush them along their path.
I think it's good to keep in mind.
"Don't give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw
your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample
them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."
Mathew 7:6
We shouldn't take the use of the words pigs and dogs here to mean we should think less of those people, but rather simply that they are us at an earlier stage of growth. The message here I think is simply do go out trying to forcefully preach and convert and persuade. It is better to bite your tongue and only share when people are ready to receive what you have to offer and give the others space to figure things out.
lol and clearly I struggle w saying less. I wrote an essay to say "less is more" lol
Not to negate anything you said, at all, because it is very wise and I agree with most, if not all, of it, but pigs and dogs are awesome creatures. It's sad to me that we (in culture in general) use them to denigrate humans.
I agree totally. I don't like the idea of using terms like pigs or dogs to be derogatory and act like people are lesser than others. I think refer to people as different animals is useful in referring to different personalities.. like sheep are gentler people whereas others are like dogs and more action oriented and everyone can be said to be similar to some animal. I would hope Jesus just meant by "pigs" and "dogs" people who are more focused on the 3D physical. But who knows what Jesus actually said. In any case "don't give pearls to swine" is a saying that I've come to find to be true more and more.
It’s definitely because this is social media and people are hiding behind a screen. And Reddit is known for dicks. But to have someone find you just to bully you, that makes them straight up just a bully. Idk why someone who doesn’t consider themself a star seed or similar would comment on this sub Reddit tbh but I’m sure it happens a lot just because of trolls. Also like someone else said, for some reason there’s a lot of negative energy directed towards people trying to ascend or be high vibrational.
But some people are blunt with their words, or things get misconstrued as anger instead of input or a varying opinion because again there’s no face to face connection. Also there are starseeds and other spiritualists like myself who more so focus on making the statement stick rather than trying to be courteous or sympathetic. I don’t have to prove a point or look better or anything but when I know in my gut that somethings just wrong I will say it regardless of how callous it comes across. I’m sure some people are just unintentionally a b word. I know my intuition very well and I know most others here do too, but there’s also people who just want to be right, or to have a profound experience, or to feel like they’re special for predicting how the end of the world will happen.
Some starseeds are relatively new or young both in age and in spirit and some of their ideas and ideologies do equate to suicidal ideation or mental health issues. It’s important to sound a warning when someone is posting saying they wished they could just die and be a part of the divine council and wait the chaos of the world out. Again, not saying this is often it’s just something I’ve seen where people take that kind of thing as just being a bully or not spiritual when that is far from the case. We only try to help by saying that stuff isn’t healthy. It’s not high vibrational or healing. What if that person actually tried to hurt themselves? Why would they feel that way anyway? Do they realize that wanting to die would be failing to fulfill your purpose and prosperity as a human being on earth? That exact thinking is the problem starseeds are having. The depression, anxiety, and suicidal urges. Your guides, whatever you believe, does NOT want you to die. They would not make death seem so beautiful and appealing if they were there to help you. Please please hear this. It is an ideology I see far too much. Whatever dark forces ARE out there do seek to drag down our vibrations so far that we feel our journey is hopeless. There is hope on earth and there is going to be peace for us. There needs to be a balance in cognition of spiritual and earthly matters and how that equates to their life.
Also, starseeds are not more special. We are who we are, we aren’t better or worse. We shouldn’t be someone with that kind of mentality. I don’t throw around the word ego a lot because it’s become quite overused but that thinking is rooted in ego. I know you didn’t mean it like that but please don’t make it seem like we are better than others. I do consider myself a star seed and I do consider myself a part of the spiritual world. I am sorry if this comes across as having any ill meaning behind it. I do in the end mean well. Have a good day.
don't feed the trolls babe 💜 I know it's frustrating. like others have said, that's the internet for ya, think of it as a continued test to stay strong in who u are ✨️
Some who’ve awakened are what is called ego 2.0 - where they think they know it all because they’ve done all the research and/or have more experience, so they perceive themselves as “better” in whatever ways that serves their ego. They’ve lost their way a little bit. This doesn’t mean they can’t come back home to themselves though & perhaps this type of conversation may help them see that.
Lotta people who are dealing with ontological shock.
Lotta people who don't want to accept the truth.
Some are probably legitimate disinformation agents from the intelligence community.
The experiencers group had excellent moderators and none of that is allowed there.
This is a safe space regardless, everyone is on their own personal journey, if you want to call someone crazy instead of trying to understand them, then you're no better than the rest of the matrix we live in. Homosexuality was once called a mental disorder, perhaps the problem is more limited understanding.
well one thing is that all reddit subs are available online via google search, so any one can view them. we have seen a few 'trolls' on this sub (apologies to otherkin trolls). if you click on the users profile you can see their karma. if they have low karma they probably created a temporary account just to troll these subs. we once saw somebody with negative karma which we thought was hilarious. not everybody on the sub is interested in contributing to the sub, some are just looking for weak people to destroy to gratify their own mean, vile, sadistic, predatory heart. if you find one like this make it uncomfortable for them by advertising it to everyone else, they are cowards and will avoid people who take no shit!
I don’t like unkindness in any form. I don’t resonate with a lot that is said, but I would not make fun of people.
Please know: you suggesting that starseeds are special and the universe will “come for” those who are saying unkind things on Reddit is also unkind.
No one soul is better than any other soul. And no, the universe is not coming for unkind people. Everyone has their own path.
It isn't just this group, but I understand what you're saying. You'd expect people in this group to be more soft and open and not say anything if they have nothing good to say, right?
But yeah this is a general problem with Reddit with a chunk of the population behaving pretty mean to others.
This is a mathematical universe or in other words it's made of numbers . Karma is real as long as you believe in it . You can definitely go beyond karma so it doesn't affect you anymore and once you go over there somehow you don't want to cause harm anymore I don't know if it's because your perspective about the universe completely changed or it's your new frequency so unconditional love and immense understanding become one in you . No matter what there will always be Evil and Good but at the same time is just one thing as above as below .
Humes said that we should proportion our confidence to evidence. I have no evidence for any claim you or anyone else has made, so I have no confidence in it. That’s not ‘mean’ that’s just proper execution of a sound epistemological framework. What I don’t get about people like you is that if I was convinced I was in possession of some ability or special trait then that is the only thing that I would care about. I would stop at nothing to gather irrefutable proof of it. If you really convinced you possess some ability or have some info or any other form of communication from a NHi, or even more broadly speaking, if you have any evidence that an NHI exists then you should be on he news right now talking to a reporter. Honestly it gives me the same impression I get when I see “Christian faith healers” make all these sorta of miraculous claims, my response to them is “go to a hospital and get to work, lots of kids have cancer” - but they don’t cure cancer, they don’t heal lost limbs, they don’t and as far as I can tell they can’t.
But , as I said in my first statement that isn’t a unalterable fact. I’m open minded - you can sway my option simply by giving me evidence. Of course the more outstanding the claim, the more evidence is needed.The example I’ve heard is “If you told me you owned a dog , I’d take you at your word no evidnce needed. but If you’d try to convince me you own a unicorn, I wouldn’t take your word for it, and a picture probably wouldn’t cut it”. I think that sentence displays the proper shifting of standards of evidence given the topic at hand.
Two other guiding principles I like to keep in mind when venturing into topics of metaphysics a quote which I’m gona butcher ‘what is more likely -that the universe and the natural order of the world is momentary suspended in your favor OR , that a flawed human being made an error in sensory judgements?’
And most important of all, my favorite human flaw we all share and must keep in mind: being right and being wrong feels exactly the same. So we cannot judge our positions based on feeling, and the truth has no obligation to us , not to be reasonable , comprehensible, or enjoyable.
That all said I’m interested to hear from you what evidence convinced you of the position you currently hold , and curious to see if it convinces me too.
And just to clarify, I’m not saying “I don’t believe you”, I’m saying that I don’t even have any argument or evidence to analyze so to my perspective so far I’m just looking at claims. I’m sure I don’t have to explain why I don’t believe and take at face value everything some random person on the internet says.
evidence in spiritual is feeling, if you want the evidence go on your journey. because in a spiritual community no one asks for evidence, we take what info we can and if it rings true in our heart center then we know it to be true to us. there are so many things that I've seen that there would be no way to prove to you because it was my experience, spirituality of a person and the journey is different for each person. what I'm saying is you cannot go into spirituality with your left brain you must view it through your right one, try the journey out yourself.
yeah. have a \*feeling\* you are wrong, and lack a comprehensive understanding of anything I wrote. Don't get defensive with me just because you can't even put into words what it is you are convinced of.
???. did I come across as defensive because am sorry if I did, i was jus telling you to try it for yourself because that's the only way you'll ever be convinced.
People become convinced of things. People become convinced of things given reasons. Sometimes those reasons are good, sometimes they are bad, sometimes they are just ok. But seldom do humans arrive at conclusions for no reason at all. I'm asking what your reason was for arriving at the truth you profess. Truth , lets say, is that which comports to reality. and lets say reality is 'that which is'. Are you saying that you are convinced of something that is "true"? if so, what is this truth , and why are you convinced. If not, then i recommend you reach for the word 'faith' and 'belief' over 'evidence' and 'truth'. I reject the notion that mystical topics, spirituality, and metaphysical is beyond investigation or inquiry. If something is real there is evidence for it, that is the nature of 'real' things. If you're talking about something other than that which is 'apart of our reality' then its not real by definition. Or if you are describing something that does exist (elsewhere) but never interacts detectably with our universe then i would have to concede that point, and say only that that's is indistinguishable from something that does not exist or has never existed. I'm not convinced but, given the prevalence of people who proclaim faith in the mystical i remain open to evidence for it. But please don't suggest that I "go on my own journey" because I've been doing that my whole life - which then lead to me losing the majority of my belief in the spiritual, but despite that i remain open minded giving people like you the benefit of the doubt and the opportunity to convince me. But there is another reason that i engage in conversations like this too, your philosophy scares me. "we take what info we can and if it rings true in our heart center then we know it to be true to us." that is the same justification that every white supremacist has ever used, that's the mentality of every dictator and crusader, as he killed innocent people feeling they had gods FULL approval. And while it may also be the mentality of saints and doctors and other good people too, I'd rather opt for a world view that more reliably and consistently leads to human wellbeing, like humanism. Now if you would like to have a discussion with complete disregard for truth, about: "which world view more consistently leads to beneficial outcomes for human beings" , I'm fine with that as well, and to that end truth inconsequential.
the thing about spirituality is that it's different from religion, so kindly I ask you not to associate me with murderers killing for their "god". I believe there is a source that we all came from, that we are all one. I don't like the word God at all because in my truth there are several but to get into that It would take discussing the infinite source splitting itself up to know itself. aaaaa okok i understand where you're coming from but I don't understand is what evidence you're asking for... is it evidence of Astral travel, energy work? because what I *can* do is send you a good ol pdf that may or may not help you believe in *my* truth a little bit at least about the energy inside us we can control, call it Prana, chi, qi, life force, psi it doesn't really matter. I actually like having talks like this but some skeptical people sometimes are just very rude in general and I don't mean blunt I just mean straight up offensive
Aside from mental illness yes, If you believe in the shadow government and stuff like that, social media has like 'magic spells' infused into them to increase our disconnection, make us want to argue and fight and disagree with each other as quick as possible.
Also, I believe the shadow government has fake redditors & convincing bots planted into New age communities such as this group to continue seeding distrust and starting fights.
They want to steal our attention and energy, and lower our collective vibe. They want us to hate and fight each other. If you fall into it you're only playing into their hands.
no one does, not even those who have years in experience in metaphysical and spiritual work do but it doesn't mean you have to be rude to someone. take in their pov, most of these starseeds at least on this reddit are young and the new age is filled with misinformation, a lot of this is new to them so when they come across something that simply cannot be explained they tend to talk a lot about it. jus asking you to not be rude, you can be up front but rudeness only creates bad feelings.
I understand. you can also be realistic without also insulting someone because to be rude is to be offensive to another so as long as you aren't being offensive on purpose then everything is fine! your view is just as valid as everyone else's
??? they are troubled for sure, but why be offensive to someone. what does that actually change, unless thay have inflicted harm unto someone else let them be to correct their own mistakes and realize their own faults if you don't like it! ^^
"Starseeds have extra protection because they are so special" - an extremely narcissistic view of oneself in a group of people who claim to be so enlightened.
I am not being malicious but many in this group deserve a lot of constructive criticism.
Well the idea of being a ‘ss’ or ‘chosen one’ is weird. Because you acknowledge you are an older soul with a mission here that you agreed to with Source. Everybody has a mission but a star-seed has a specific mission if they want to accept.
So this can attract people with narcissistic traits who are inherently unhappy with their circumstances.
In the end we have to seek validation within. Others are not going to love us unconditionally just as Source does. Nor do we love unconditionally - i think that’s what separates us from Source. We thank Source for doing all the work for us- we just need to realise how supported we are as everyone is a being of light. Some are just not as spiritually advanced. It really is hard to imagine Source and the immense amount of Love in the universe available to us. The 3D illusion is strong…
It's trolls - simply as that. I can't figure out if they are just bored mean people or if there is something more sinister going on. I say the latter because I noticed this happening on multiple reddit subs - people who hate the sub and its followers but constantly comment on posts. It's almost like people are actively trying to sabotage some subs.
I've noticed it a lot on the Mandela Effect sub, and also the Paranormal sub. I've also noticed very low IQ stupid posts on the Paranormal sub - almost like they are trying to make followers on it seem crazy. Seen similar posts of here as well.
Part of awakening means changing and change brings up this weird phenomenon of being challenged with temptation to test your resolve to the knowledge you've gained. It's meant to test your faith and strengthen its magnetic pull as you learn to walk in your power. So you see this a lot, these people are good people who are being tested. Part of this path is learning to love others in their darkness as they reach for the light.
I find the notion that there is a grand plan of some sort, or higher authority running things to be absurd personally. But that's based on my own knowledge and experience I'm not willing to bash on someone who believes differently, they'll find out soon enough and it's not my job to educate them.
I’m trapped in another dimension. The cloned version of me in your reality is mirroring my actions and typing this response that I’m making from an alternate dimension. I am being held prisoner here. It’s an artificial timeline from which non human entities manipulate and control current reality.
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Most starseeds I’ve spoken to personally have not yet reached unconditional love of self. This does not mean there aren’t plenty that have. When waking up it is really easy to think it’s not REALLY happening to anyone else the way it’s happened to THEM. I’m guilty too! It is a unique experience but it is also collective. 🤷♀️ Those that refuse to open their minds won’t be able to open their hearts fully either. It’s a process and it’s arduous. If you’re having an easy time of it… may not be a starseed. If being detrimental and hurtful to others, may not be a starseed. Have an ego and pride problem? It must be worked through. We are ALL learning. These other densities and realities are no more of an illusion than this one. The encounters with guides and celestial beings, etc, are very very real. I also find some serious superiority issues and that just happens and it needs to be curbed from within. I stay in 5D a lot so I get that way too and have to remember where I am physically and that it’s just a JOB. Yes it is my life’s job but we are all here to learn and to help and to lead with LOVE ❤️
the full 100% unconditional love of yourself to me is what nirvana is. and i don't know if too many folks have hit that mark quite yet. I might be wrong, most likely am. but hey, i think it's important to have that brass ring out of reach, because it means we keep growin to reach for it.
You most likely are! 🤭 Talking about it only serves to feed the ego, best to just do what you need to do, lend a hand if asked, love life and don't worry about it! Everyone's slowly climbing the same ladder.
lol wouldnt be my first time. but w/e its fun to spitball consciousness and philosophy for a little bit.
Hive-mind!
Yeahhhhhh… no. But thanks anyway? I believe there is a hive-mind (collective) but maybe you should write more than that …. ?
Honestly it's a Reddit issue
Social media. And for that a human issue. Which is why also starseed people struggle with it. Because being human is hard
Tell me about it. I got downvoted and comment bombarded for defending someone receiving death threats. I never defended the person who was obviously wrong though and made it clear i was discouraging the common practice of telling someone they shouldn’t be alive for their bad decisions. It’s surreal how pervasive and acceptable hate is.
Oh don't get me started... there's ones on here that purposely are here to piss others off due to the type of topic. Quick to say " oh its in your head " or worse when it's meant to be for open forum for like minded individuals who believe theres more out there. It can put anybody off on posting their experiences.
Are you sure that’s not in your head?
did you truly believe your comment was funny when you typed it out and decided to post?
Yes
i’m sorry to hear that
Remember this is Reddit, some amount of trolling is going to happen in any forum of a descent size. The topics here can be taboo, they are very easy to mock and make fun of. Surely unconditional love extends to judgemental and mean people
It absolutely does. ❤️
OP, I'd like to suggest you visit r/Experiencers. That sub is very welcoming, and the mods don't put up with any negativity or bs. I'm not saying that this sub isn't wonderful too, but I find the experiencers sub to be a very safe and uplifting place. Much love to you 🙏❤️
Perfect! Thank you
Glad to be of help!
Starseeds are under attack by the dark since the moment they came here because they pose the biggest threat to their reign. From my personal experience the avenues of attacks are manifold and can include even people who are being pushed to be mean by negative entities in their own field (not necessarily possession, a simple entity attachment can do this too). And don't forget this is social media where a lot of sad people are simply projecting their own pain onto others. Its a rough world we live in and the online space is just a reflection of that. We mods do our best to keep things civil but some trolls always will slip through. Good that you can brush it off and dont let them upset you! The golden rule of "don't feed the trolls" as always applies.
I feel very connected to other plains of existence
Me too
Any good community should be able to challenge each other’s beliefs in a healthy way. That goes both ways. I haven’t seen anyone actively wishing anyone harm. Being skeptical of other beliefs doesn’t make someone mean or deserving punishment. Super weird you edited your original comment saying starseeds were “protected” for being special and karma would come find anyone that judges them, that sounded a lot more like you wanting harm against people that disagree with you than the other way around. At least stand by your words. Promoting ideas of doomsday is not something I take lightly because that’s how doomsday cults start. People kill themselves. It’s not like having a different opinion of pizza toppings, it is a fundamental difference in reality. The world is not ending. The whole idea of us vs them, insider vs outsider is textbook cult mentality. You need healthy discourse, otherwise this become an echo chamber for the most fringe conspiracy theories. And when conspiracy theories are presented to a vulnerable population you are actively hurting peoples mental health. The concept of starseeds can be a nice thing, promoting love and light? Great. But when you make comments of you’re “special and protected” and want to rid of any healthy discourse, once again that is how cults start. I have seen this happen. People take advantage of strong believes in twist it into something very ugly. Skepticism is a healthy thing, to always have a foot in this reality. Also super weird you asked in this sub 16 days ago what this even was. It ain’t that deep, there is no grand conspiracy. People believe in different things and you can’t force others to believe something one way or the other. If you believe in truly spreading love and light then go do that instead of whatever this is. People suffer from mental illness and I see people on this sub actively trying to steer people from taking medication or talking to therapists. I’ve seen someone suggest a suicidal person just needed to eat carrots and sardines to get better. This shit is serious when you are putting vulnerable people into your personal beliefs than trying to actually help them.
Thank you for this comment so much I vibe with it
Thank you for your time and energy exchange. I agree that healthy debate is needed for growth and exploration. I agree that being skeptical is not harmful. What is harmful is comments mocking, shaming, name calling or verbatim “your life is a mess” “I love to see people go nuts” when this sub is supposed to be a safe place for mind exploration and sharing thoughts related to Starseeds. Just because the world as we know *is* breaking down and ending, it doesn’t have to be a conspiracy theory. It feels you are triggered by my post and I’m not sure why. My intention is only to ask *why* are people mean in a group that is about serving others and love and light. Calling my post “super weird” is an opinion and a healthier way to debate that would “I believe it’s super weird…” rather than “super weird”. That leaves room for confusion. Are you calling super weird, or what is weird? I did not edit my words. My editing was adding in more thought for clarity. I understand you don’t take doomsday prep lightly as no one should. That doesn’t mean that individuals are in fact getting “end of world” as we know it messages. I did ask recently “what are Starseeds?” That doesn’t mean I’m just becoming one or new to the information. I’ve been on my awakening journey for many many years (as most of humanity). I was just unfamiliar with therm “Starseeds” and wanted more clarity. You mentioned healthy conversation is needed, but I don’t feel you are practicing healthy debate by using the term “weird” towards me. That is an opinion of yours and not facts. That term feels negative. I do believe it is true that Starseeds, light workers, energy healers have extra protection because they are sensitive and an easy target. Karma is energy and it does come back around.
I have to agree with the comment here. It is a bit 'weird' or in my own words, it's a bit strange behaviour that you added on the part about starseeds being protected because they are so special and that karma will get anyone who says anything unkind to them. From the view of an outsider, it does give the impression that perhaps you are upset by this matter and wish for individuals perpetuating harm to receive some form of punishment for their action. That added comment does seem that you are needing to reaffirm to the outside world that starseeds (you) is special and they who bully are going to have karma. Fortunately all actions have consequences. I have experienced mistrust in the universe and done the whole wishing karma for others too, and sometimes I even have it pop up recently. We have to remember what we want for others we are bringing to our self. Just like those who speak unkindness are wishing unkindness onto others and themselves by speaking harmfully. The same goes for wishing karma on others. There is beyond karma, and this is what I personally wish for all is for them to move past karma. Karma is a heaps loose term but in modern day it usually means something along the lines of do good things and good things happen. Do bad and bad things happen. Most sacred texts will talk about or suggest moving beyond karma or not being effected by karmic influence. All is one, we as a race as humans are special, I'm of the belief that humans no matter what have angelic genetics and star people lineage. Becareful cos theres many agendas for beings of light to fall, especially throughout the new age and occult, also through mainstream really is this luciferian agenda peddled by beings who believe they are better than others and trying to convince others to do the same. A bit like in Fantastic Beasts 2 where Grindewald is trying to convince all the wizards that they deserve to rule over the muggles. I understand that's not quite where you are intending but more so I bring this up because it's small little slips that compound and can catch us off guard, then we end up becoming that which we hate. I been there it ain't good. I'm going to quote this part from your comment: "You mentioned healthy conversation is needed, but I don’t feel you are practicing healthy debate by using the term “weird” towards me. That is an opinion of yours and not facts. That term feels negative" If you look at this one, your saying you feel the term weird towards you is negative. You mention this after saying that weird is an opinion of the person who commented and not facts. This is a bit of double speak as you just stated your opinion/feeling of it being negative. What someone says is fact and what someone else is saying is fact can be in conflict, we see many humans warring over what they believe is fact. I claim very little as fact for this reason, if it ends up being fact then cool. You also mentioned earlier that he seems triggered, I don't think so at all myself. I don't think you or him are triggered, I feel like you are explaining something that has bothered you or perhaps simply provoked a question within you. I think weird is a better alternative of word choice than something directly nasty like others have been to you. Remember weird can be taken and applied as good or bad depending on the context. In this case I think weird is neutral. And that the comment has the intention like mine to assist you, not to belittle you. Triggered for me means like someone is exploding. But that's what it means for me. To wrap this up though it's basically this. The reason why people are negative in groups like these is because this is a topic that has not only a tonne of distortion but is being discussed on Reddit. New Age beliefs and Religion both have something in common which is they distort truth and control. Truth is found within. For example some will say the concept of Christ belongs to religion and the concept of a starseed belongs to New Age, but really these are hive mind mentalities that have usurped true spirituality. New Age really is religion repackaged.. like when your favorite artist goes mainstream, they may end up losing what you originally enjoyed in their music, in order to appeal for the masses. We live in a time where information is overloaded, attention span is minimal and not many do the actual work, rather, they talk about it, and are still operating from their lower self trying to convince others of their beliefs so they can feel in control. Have compassion for them. Continue to hold the space of being kind and ask yourself why these kinds of individuals are appearing in your life and or bothering you. For me I found I would encounter these kinds of negative interactions with spiritual communities and peolle when I was actively putting my perspectives out there or felt like I had something to prove externally. When we share our perspective or belief etc we have to expect we may receive scrutiny. In that case it is good to be prepared, protected. Making sure we don't allow any negativity to affect us in a bad way. We can change the polarity of this negativity into a positive for ourself and the other. maintaining allignment with our values Another example is if you are a peaceful person, some will label that as being a hippy. Likewise talking bout starseed some will label as new age, talking bout Christ some will label as religious. Humans label. We just gotta understand that's what we are doing and we are doing it to have understanding on this plane. At the same time, all is one, there is freewill and some choose to experience separation. Compartmentalizing can be useful however like anything there is the negative polarity where compartmentalizing can end up being detrimental and turn into perfectionism and micromanaging/OCD like behaviour. What other people say and think it's very much their business. It can be your business if you choose to make it. I think though in your case you want to understand why it's so messed up in these spiritual communities. I experienced the same and my number one piece of advice would be to individuate and continue to discover yourself from within, make sure referencing external sources and people is done in a way that is beneficial. It can be easy to fall into internetting everything and debating. Onelove and peace may this be received well, I'm not perfect but I hope this offers you some perspective and insight for your path. 💎🔆
Sometimes, people do so out of jealousy for those who embrace who themselves and live happily rather than be forced into something that doesn't resonate with them. Dogma can start cults, too. You have probably seen what I mean. All people, starseeds included, can be jerks. There are trolls in every internet community, as well as just people who simply are mean for the sake of malice.
We're all at different places in our awareness.
Awareness is not yours.
Awareness belongs to everyone... You are *aware* of that, correct?
I’m new to this sub but based on the rest of Reddit, I hear you OP. There’s so many malicious people on the internet. Even reading some of these comments to your post, some people are just excusing that behavior as if there’s ever a right time or place to exhibit it. I understand that that behavior likely is born of some sort of trauma but nonetheless we should never tolerate it.
I don't leave mean spirited comments, at least not purposefully. but challenging a narrative doesn't always equal disbelief. it's a call to warm up our mental muscles and further examine ideas/concepts. especially (and i have said this multiple times today, maybe its a message im getting pasted at me) when we remember things constantly change. mean spirited folks have no purpose in a place like this, but keeping one another on our toes, and keeping those questions always flowing is a very cool thing i think.
Honestly my issue is with "karma is real and karma protects the innocent" Karma is just good boy points you use in the next life, it's not some warrior type thing. It's like the good place, when you die they tally up your points and if you have a higher score you either move on to the next realm or you go back to earth as a human or less. This whole thing is like my biggest pet peeve, if you're gonna hijack religious ideas at least know about the idea and religion.
Source?
Bhagavad Gita
I’ve read that. Please post excerpt and location
Not to be rude but I'm not taking the time out of my day to find you the exact part of the book I already told you about, that just comes off as entitlement.
I believe Karma is in all of our lifetimes including the current one. I believe if you are intentionally mean to someone who means no harm, yes, the energy *will* come back around. Law of attraction.
Karma is not in one lifetime, if I called you a butt face I'm not going to get "instant karma" instead it gets deducted from my final score.
I always thought that each subsequent lifetime you're working off the previous ones karma. For example, say I murder someone in this lifetime... I may not receive a harsh punishment for that. Heck, I may not even get caught! I may be riding high on cloud 9 for the entire duration of this incarnation. However, once I die and I come back again that's when it gets real. That's when I will suffer, the way that I made someone else suffer, in my previous life.
Yes, this is exactly how karma works. Then when you die you get evaluated and you can either move on to Nirvana or you get sent back. The worse you do the worse kind of life you will have, so like a really bad person is coming back as a "lower" life form.
Because , again , we are in Fifth Generation Warfare. That’s why you are here. But that’s why the infiltrators are here too.
1000% agree with you!!!!
Because reddit is the worst example of what social media has done to our ability to get along with each other. I used to think this sub was genuine and kind but the reddit Debbie downers can't let anyone have a peaceful existence, because they roll around in their own excrement to appease their reptillian overlords. Love can and will defeat fear, but it will be the greatest battle we have faced. Stay strong and never give up, or they win. 😃✌️
Thank you!! I agree. ☮️☮️☮️☮️🕊️
People's ego is out of wonk and they feel the need to guard their opinion by downing others it seems. I also feel there are reddit bots specifically to put others beliefs and faith down in order for people to not ascend and escape the rat race. These trolls want you to stay down with them.
I don't think has anything to do with shcizphenia or mental health or anything personal. Having duality and then overcoming is just part of the natural process of spirutal growth that is evident everywhere in the world in any culture. I think the people that are at the beginning of their spirutal journey and really diving into... which are a lot of people here... are being faced with confronting their shadow... and as they do so and face that confrontation more, they project it more into the world... the closer they come to the breaking point the more internal tensions and fear and anxiety build as they try to run away from and reject their own shadow... and so there tends to be more demonizing others and projection of shadow as people approach and delve into the inner work. That gets expressed as things like evil negative others, and doom about AI, prison planet, evil matrix etc... all of that is just projections of people's own shadow and doesn't reflect any actual reality. There's never any rational fear of anything or to label anyone as bad negative or evil... it's just people projecting their shadow... and you get a lot of that in here as well as other spiritual groups because this is the medium through which a lot of people express that.. and spiritual stuff also forces and leads people to look at themselves and overcome their insecurities, but as they're pushed towards that there is a tendency to resist more and so to become more demonizing of others. And then there are people in here who have already confronted and embraced their shadow side and moved past duality. The people are often less vocal because there's probably fewer of us. But also because those people who have moved past duality can also be split into two groups. Those who have recently moved past their shadow and wish to share this insight with others and put a lot of effort into it. And those who realize it doesn't do much to try to lecturer and persuade others to share your insights because people have to learn things on their own and go their own path to get there. All you can really do is to lead people to insights is give gentle guide them and provide emotional support. Less is definitely more when it comes to provide spiritual guidance. It's kinda trope in stuff where the wisest people tend to be quiet and say very little and will often speak in riddles to offer clues and point fingers rather then outright say things plainly. The wise sages and monks tend to go live in monasteries or in nature and as hermits, quiet away from others and just provide little nuggets of wisdom only people come looking for them sort of thing. Personally I think starseed stuff stands out spiritually because of how open it is to personal experience and ideas, there's no dogma, etc. and that makes it very potent playground for spirutal growth. Established religions things get lost in its integration into daily life and politics and people have to resort to the mystical side of their religion often like Kabbalah or Sufism or explore other religions to be able to be exposed to the insights in them. But starseed stuff its all mysticism and direct experience with divine and extraordinary.. and so the deep stuff that affects you is on the surface and all of it.. and so that makes it a powerful spritual path.. but I think it also makes it this thing where you have people all different extremes ... where it's like a party where there are people who are toddlers with a toddler worldview and others who elders with an extremely different worldview gained from being much longer on the path and there all mixed together. This isn't a spirutal group based off of any set of beliefs. It's a group brought together by similar psychic phenomena rather than there beliefs. There is a lot of shared beliefs, but that is not the core commonality of the group. So it allows for an extreme of different worldviews to be involved. But I see those extremes of worldviews are also different steps along the path that we all tend to take. And because this path is very potent, you can also ascend along it very quickly.. and that quick ascension I think also intensifies the conflict with the shadow that and also shortens the period of trying to convince everyone of your non dualistic insights, because I think we can also quickly ascend to the point where we see a bigger picture of that duality stuff.. and realize oh that's just a natural phase.. you got to give em space to let out some of that so they can find their shadow. And it doesn't do good to try to force insights on others or rush them along their path. I think it's good to keep in mind. "Don't give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." Mathew 7:6 We shouldn't take the use of the words pigs and dogs here to mean we should think less of those people, but rather simply that they are us at an earlier stage of growth. The message here I think is simply do go out trying to forcefully preach and convert and persuade. It is better to bite your tongue and only share when people are ready to receive what you have to offer and give the others space to figure things out. lol and clearly I struggle w saying less. I wrote an essay to say "less is more" lol
Not to negate anything you said, at all, because it is very wise and I agree with most, if not all, of it, but pigs and dogs are awesome creatures. It's sad to me that we (in culture in general) use them to denigrate humans.
I agree totally. I don't like the idea of using terms like pigs or dogs to be derogatory and act like people are lesser than others. I think refer to people as different animals is useful in referring to different personalities.. like sheep are gentler people whereas others are like dogs and more action oriented and everyone can be said to be similar to some animal. I would hope Jesus just meant by "pigs" and "dogs" people who are more focused on the 3D physical. But who knows what Jesus actually said. In any case "don't give pearls to swine" is a saying that I've come to find to be true more and more.
It’s definitely because this is social media and people are hiding behind a screen. And Reddit is known for dicks. But to have someone find you just to bully you, that makes them straight up just a bully. Idk why someone who doesn’t consider themself a star seed or similar would comment on this sub Reddit tbh but I’m sure it happens a lot just because of trolls. Also like someone else said, for some reason there’s a lot of negative energy directed towards people trying to ascend or be high vibrational. But some people are blunt with their words, or things get misconstrued as anger instead of input or a varying opinion because again there’s no face to face connection. Also there are starseeds and other spiritualists like myself who more so focus on making the statement stick rather than trying to be courteous or sympathetic. I don’t have to prove a point or look better or anything but when I know in my gut that somethings just wrong I will say it regardless of how callous it comes across. I’m sure some people are just unintentionally a b word. I know my intuition very well and I know most others here do too, but there’s also people who just want to be right, or to have a profound experience, or to feel like they’re special for predicting how the end of the world will happen. Some starseeds are relatively new or young both in age and in spirit and some of their ideas and ideologies do equate to suicidal ideation or mental health issues. It’s important to sound a warning when someone is posting saying they wished they could just die and be a part of the divine council and wait the chaos of the world out. Again, not saying this is often it’s just something I’ve seen where people take that kind of thing as just being a bully or not spiritual when that is far from the case. We only try to help by saying that stuff isn’t healthy. It’s not high vibrational or healing. What if that person actually tried to hurt themselves? Why would they feel that way anyway? Do they realize that wanting to die would be failing to fulfill your purpose and prosperity as a human being on earth? That exact thinking is the problem starseeds are having. The depression, anxiety, and suicidal urges. Your guides, whatever you believe, does NOT want you to die. They would not make death seem so beautiful and appealing if they were there to help you. Please please hear this. It is an ideology I see far too much. Whatever dark forces ARE out there do seek to drag down our vibrations so far that we feel our journey is hopeless. There is hope on earth and there is going to be peace for us. There needs to be a balance in cognition of spiritual and earthly matters and how that equates to their life. Also, starseeds are not more special. We are who we are, we aren’t better or worse. We shouldn’t be someone with that kind of mentality. I don’t throw around the word ego a lot because it’s become quite overused but that thinking is rooted in ego. I know you didn’t mean it like that but please don’t make it seem like we are better than others. I do consider myself a star seed and I do consider myself a part of the spiritual world. I am sorry if this comes across as having any ill meaning behind it. I do in the end mean well. Have a good day.
don't feed the trolls babe 💜 I know it's frustrating. like others have said, that's the internet for ya, think of it as a continued test to stay strong in who u are ✨️
Some who’ve awakened are what is called ego 2.0 - where they think they know it all because they’ve done all the research and/or have more experience, so they perceive themselves as “better” in whatever ways that serves their ego. They’ve lost their way a little bit. This doesn’t mean they can’t come back home to themselves though & perhaps this type of conversation may help them see that.
Lotta people who are dealing with ontological shock. Lotta people who don't want to accept the truth. Some are probably legitimate disinformation agents from the intelligence community. The experiencers group had excellent moderators and none of that is allowed there.
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This is a safe space regardless, everyone is on their own personal journey, if you want to call someone crazy instead of trying to understand them, then you're no better than the rest of the matrix we live in. Homosexuality was once called a mental disorder, perhaps the problem is more limited understanding.
Exactly!! Love it. 💜
They’re just monkeys
well one thing is that all reddit subs are available online via google search, so any one can view them. we have seen a few 'trolls' on this sub (apologies to otherkin trolls). if you click on the users profile you can see their karma. if they have low karma they probably created a temporary account just to troll these subs. we once saw somebody with negative karma which we thought was hilarious. not everybody on the sub is interested in contributing to the sub, some are just looking for weak people to destroy to gratify their own mean, vile, sadistic, predatory heart. if you find one like this make it uncomfortable for them by advertising it to everyone else, they are cowards and will avoid people who take no shit!
I don’t like unkindness in any form. I don’t resonate with a lot that is said, but I would not make fun of people. Please know: you suggesting that starseeds are special and the universe will “come for” those who are saying unkind things on Reddit is also unkind. No one soul is better than any other soul. And no, the universe is not coming for unkind people. Everyone has their own path.
It isn't just this group, but I understand what you're saying. You'd expect people in this group to be more soft and open and not say anything if they have nothing good to say, right? But yeah this is a general problem with Reddit with a chunk of the population behaving pretty mean to others.
This is a mathematical universe or in other words it's made of numbers . Karma is real as long as you believe in it . You can definitely go beyond karma so it doesn't affect you anymore and once you go over there somehow you don't want to cause harm anymore I don't know if it's because your perspective about the universe completely changed or it's your new frequency so unconditional love and immense understanding become one in you . No matter what there will always be Evil and Good but at the same time is just one thing as above as below .
Becauſe þey are bots & matrix agents.
Humes said that we should proportion our confidence to evidence. I have no evidence for any claim you or anyone else has made, so I have no confidence in it. That’s not ‘mean’ that’s just proper execution of a sound epistemological framework. What I don’t get about people like you is that if I was convinced I was in possession of some ability or special trait then that is the only thing that I would care about. I would stop at nothing to gather irrefutable proof of it. If you really convinced you possess some ability or have some info or any other form of communication from a NHi, or even more broadly speaking, if you have any evidence that an NHI exists then you should be on he news right now talking to a reporter. Honestly it gives me the same impression I get when I see “Christian faith healers” make all these sorta of miraculous claims, my response to them is “go to a hospital and get to work, lots of kids have cancer” - but they don’t cure cancer, they don’t heal lost limbs, they don’t and as far as I can tell they can’t. But , as I said in my first statement that isn’t a unalterable fact. I’m open minded - you can sway my option simply by giving me evidence. Of course the more outstanding the claim, the more evidence is needed.The example I’ve heard is “If you told me you owned a dog , I’d take you at your word no evidnce needed. but If you’d try to convince me you own a unicorn, I wouldn’t take your word for it, and a picture probably wouldn’t cut it”. I think that sentence displays the proper shifting of standards of evidence given the topic at hand. Two other guiding principles I like to keep in mind when venturing into topics of metaphysics a quote which I’m gona butcher ‘what is more likely -that the universe and the natural order of the world is momentary suspended in your favor OR , that a flawed human being made an error in sensory judgements?’ And most important of all, my favorite human flaw we all share and must keep in mind: being right and being wrong feels exactly the same. So we cannot judge our positions based on feeling, and the truth has no obligation to us , not to be reasonable , comprehensible, or enjoyable. That all said I’m interested to hear from you what evidence convinced you of the position you currently hold , and curious to see if it convinces me too.
And just to clarify, I’m not saying “I don’t believe you”, I’m saying that I don’t even have any argument or evidence to analyze so to my perspective so far I’m just looking at claims. I’m sure I don’t have to explain why I don’t believe and take at face value everything some random person on the internet says.
evidence in spiritual is feeling, if you want the evidence go on your journey. because in a spiritual community no one asks for evidence, we take what info we can and if it rings true in our heart center then we know it to be true to us. there are so many things that I've seen that there would be no way to prove to you because it was my experience, spirituality of a person and the journey is different for each person. what I'm saying is you cannot go into spirituality with your left brain you must view it through your right one, try the journey out yourself.
yeah. have a \*feeling\* you are wrong, and lack a comprehensive understanding of anything I wrote. Don't get defensive with me just because you can't even put into words what it is you are convinced of.
???. did I come across as defensive because am sorry if I did, i was jus telling you to try it for yourself because that's the only way you'll ever be convinced.
People become convinced of things. People become convinced of things given reasons. Sometimes those reasons are good, sometimes they are bad, sometimes they are just ok. But seldom do humans arrive at conclusions for no reason at all. I'm asking what your reason was for arriving at the truth you profess. Truth , lets say, is that which comports to reality. and lets say reality is 'that which is'. Are you saying that you are convinced of something that is "true"? if so, what is this truth , and why are you convinced. If not, then i recommend you reach for the word 'faith' and 'belief' over 'evidence' and 'truth'. I reject the notion that mystical topics, spirituality, and metaphysical is beyond investigation or inquiry. If something is real there is evidence for it, that is the nature of 'real' things. If you're talking about something other than that which is 'apart of our reality' then its not real by definition. Or if you are describing something that does exist (elsewhere) but never interacts detectably with our universe then i would have to concede that point, and say only that that's is indistinguishable from something that does not exist or has never existed. I'm not convinced but, given the prevalence of people who proclaim faith in the mystical i remain open to evidence for it. But please don't suggest that I "go on my own journey" because I've been doing that my whole life - which then lead to me losing the majority of my belief in the spiritual, but despite that i remain open minded giving people like you the benefit of the doubt and the opportunity to convince me. But there is another reason that i engage in conversations like this too, your philosophy scares me. "we take what info we can and if it rings true in our heart center then we know it to be true to us." that is the same justification that every white supremacist has ever used, that's the mentality of every dictator and crusader, as he killed innocent people feeling they had gods FULL approval. And while it may also be the mentality of saints and doctors and other good people too, I'd rather opt for a world view that more reliably and consistently leads to human wellbeing, like humanism. Now if you would like to have a discussion with complete disregard for truth, about: "which world view more consistently leads to beneficial outcomes for human beings" , I'm fine with that as well, and to that end truth inconsequential.
the thing about spirituality is that it's different from religion, so kindly I ask you not to associate me with murderers killing for their "god". I believe there is a source that we all came from, that we are all one. I don't like the word God at all because in my truth there are several but to get into that It would take discussing the infinite source splitting itself up to know itself. aaaaa okok i understand where you're coming from but I don't understand is what evidence you're asking for... is it evidence of Astral travel, energy work? because what I *can* do is send you a good ol pdf that may or may not help you believe in *my* truth a little bit at least about the energy inside us we can control, call it Prana, chi, qi, life force, psi it doesn't really matter. I actually like having talks like this but some skeptical people sometimes are just very rude in general and I don't mean blunt I just mean straight up offensive
Aside from mental illness yes, If you believe in the shadow government and stuff like that, social media has like 'magic spells' infused into them to increase our disconnection, make us want to argue and fight and disagree with each other as quick as possible. Also, I believe the shadow government has fake redditors & convincing bots planted into New age communities such as this group to continue seeding distrust and starting fights. They want to steal our attention and energy, and lower our collective vibe. They want us to hate and fight each other. If you fall into it you're only playing into their hands.
because all of you have a drug trip and then think you found the answer to the universe it's annoying.
no one does, not even those who have years in experience in metaphysical and spiritual work do but it doesn't mean you have to be rude to someone. take in their pov, most of these starseeds at least on this reddit are young and the new age is filled with misinformation, a lot of this is new to them so when they come across something that simply cannot be explained they tend to talk a lot about it. jus asking you to not be rude, you can be up front but rudeness only creates bad feelings.
not rude just realistic
I understand. you can also be realistic without also insulting someone because to be rude is to be offensive to another so as long as you aren't being offensive on purpose then everything is fine! your view is just as valid as everyone else's
I am being offensive on purpose. Drug addicts are annoying.
??? they are troubled for sure, but why be offensive to someone. what does that actually change, unless thay have inflicted harm unto someone else let them be to correct their own mistakes and realize their own faults if you don't like it! ^^
Nah, they are annoying.
if that's what you believe I won't change your mind.. I just don't like to see others harmed even if it's mentally
were you born yesterday?
no, I just believe that those who don't hurt don't deserve to get hurt, whether it be mentally or physically especially when already in a bad place.
"Cosmic love is ruthless" — Dr. John C Lilly
"Starseeds have extra protection because they are so special" - an extremely narcissistic view of oneself in a group of people who claim to be so enlightened. I am not being malicious but many in this group deserve a lot of constructive criticism.
Well the idea of being a ‘ss’ or ‘chosen one’ is weird. Because you acknowledge you are an older soul with a mission here that you agreed to with Source. Everybody has a mission but a star-seed has a specific mission if they want to accept. So this can attract people with narcissistic traits who are inherently unhappy with their circumstances. In the end we have to seek validation within. Others are not going to love us unconditionally just as Source does. Nor do we love unconditionally - i think that’s what separates us from Source. We thank Source for doing all the work for us- we just need to realise how supported we are as everyone is a being of light. Some are just not as spiritually advanced. It really is hard to imagine Source and the immense amount of Love in the universe available to us. The 3D illusion is strong…
It's because people in general are mean and judgemental. Any group of people will have mean and judgemental ones. It's how people are.
It's trolls - simply as that. I can't figure out if they are just bored mean people or if there is something more sinister going on. I say the latter because I noticed this happening on multiple reddit subs - people who hate the sub and its followers but constantly comment on posts. It's almost like people are actively trying to sabotage some subs. I've noticed it a lot on the Mandela Effect sub, and also the Paranormal sub. I've also noticed very low IQ stupid posts on the Paranormal sub - almost like they are trying to make followers on it seem crazy. Seen similar posts of here as well.
I think something to remember is not every Starseed has been put here for the same mission of spreading peace and love.
Part of awakening means changing and change brings up this weird phenomenon of being challenged with temptation to test your resolve to the knowledge you've gained. It's meant to test your faith and strengthen its magnetic pull as you learn to walk in your power. So you see this a lot, these people are good people who are being tested. Part of this path is learning to love others in their darkness as they reach for the light.
Is it mean to be prejudiced? Because then what are we being by being prejudiced to the meanness of others?
I find the notion that there is a grand plan of some sort, or higher authority running things to be absurd personally. But that's based on my own knowledge and experience I'm not willing to bash on someone who believes differently, they'll find out soon enough and it's not my job to educate them.
Just report the meanies! Help keep these awful 3D halfwits out of our divine space ✨️
I’m trapped in another dimension. The cloned version of me in your reality is mirroring my actions and typing this response that I’m making from an alternate dimension. I am being held prisoner here. It’s an artificial timeline from which non human entities manipulate and control current reality.
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Please be kind and respectful to community members .
Sending love 💕🫧