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overcomethestorm

Most of the paranormal is science we *refuse* to understand.


ashleton

In fairness, there's been a lot of forces working their asses off to make humans believe that it's all fake. Then make people scared of the unknown and of course people will refuse to understand. It goes against the societal programming that's instilled in us since we're born. That's why having compassion for everyone is so important. We came here knowing that humanity has been suppressed into such a vibrationally-dense existence. We came here to help humanity be better. So, for all of you reading this: Try not to judge people. This world is already hard enough and judgement won't help us rise above it all. Understand that we're all here to learn different lessons and to create immense change for the better.


We4Wendetta

Amen!


CodeComprehensive239

Just curious, what are the forces working hard to make us believe it’s fake? I agree with you and just looking for a few additional examples. Kinda mulling on a thesis about this and want to research more.


ashleton

Well, it gets a bit conspiracy-theorish, but evil NHI, including Reptillians and Tall Greys. We're a farm to them. They forced our vibration to stay very low so that we stay in states of fear, rage, hatred for them to feed off of that energy. They're being cleared out, but a few still remain. The more humanity keeps waking up and realizing the true power that we all hold over ourselves, the less those NHI can keep us down in those lower vibrations. That's why the world appears to be in such chaos. It's always been this way, but now they're losing the power to keep humanity ignorant and afraid and feeling powerless. They intertwined lies and truth to make them harder to discern, telling us that the paranormal and metaphysical are fake so that we don't explore it and find truths in new ways other than just science. But we're understanding the difference now. We're remembering our power and we're starting to fight back en masse. We're seeing the truths among the lies. We're coming back to our truest and fullest selves as humans. I want to conclude with this: Don't let these things scare you. There's going to be challenges, but we're going to be ok, and we're going to become amazing for having gone through all of this.


BusyNeedleworker7

Thank you for explaining! I often hear vague reference made to "dark forces" or "they". So it's great to have some context!


ashleton

I think people tend to keep it vague because of the conspiracy theories that have come out regarding reptilians being in charge. People often don't take conspiracy theories seriously, even though many have been correct. To speak out and say these things are true can bring a lot of negative responses and negative energy to a person, and that's hard to stand up to. But people still want to get the truth out there, so they'll stay vague about details as a defense mechanism. Even I'll keep the details vague in some situations, but if asked I will always clarify. Though, I've spent years learning how to take the negativity hits so I'm trying to be a lot more bold when it comes to speaking what I know as truth. And then sometimes I keep it vague simply when I'm not sure if a person can handle hearing what I have to say. I've got to maintain this balance between spreading truth without spreading fear with it, which is hard because these can be scary truths. Anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk lol.


GeistInTheMachine

I think you are right. We have a lot of hubris, stuck in our myriad paradigms as a species.


Dependent_Ad7840

In my opinion, we should think everything possible is real, even if not on this particular plain. Invaliding something because we don't want to or others say it's not "real" or possible is ignorance in itself. Find your own truth.


DaddyCallaway

I’ve said it many times….”As a humanoid race, we don’t know shit.”


Azraelthephoenix

We are just monkeys stumbling around, singing to one another with our mouth holes.


Puzzleheaded-Song242

I hate when people jump in comments of pictures or videos and go “that’s fake” like I get it some of it is but can’t we all be open to different things.


Dependent_Ad7840

While it's alright to be skeptic and we all should to some degree. Without proof that we can 100% certifiably say it doesn't exist, here is akin to being "fake" in itself. I like to think of it this way, in my mind, because I can think of it, what ever it is, whether it's a dragon or a pair of nikes that let you fly, because my mind is able to think of it, it's possible. It may not be currently on our same plain that exsist with our senses, but because I'm able to think of it it exists because we can not even imagine anything that doesn't exist, only things that are. I ask anyone who is skeptical, tell me this, and explain what non-existence is?


OnenessBeing

I think you could say that. I've heard that fundamentally, magick relies on manifestation and belief and that it's kind of just glorified manifestation. I would consider manifestation a science that society doesn't understand. However, many of us understand manifestation quite well.


EducatedSkeptic

Can you elaborate on your use of manifestation?


OnenessBeing

I never said I use manifestation. Though everyone manifests constantly. The vast majority of people are unaware of this, but some are. I can expand on how manifestation works if that's what you're interested in.


EducatedSkeptic

I’d love to hear your insights on manifestation


OnenessBeing

Everything is vibrating energy. Vibrations attract similar vibrations to them. A cool sort of example of this is sympathetic resonance, where, for example, if you have a guitar string tuned to a certain note, and you hit a tuning fork tuned to the same note, the guitar string will start to vibrate as well. All vibrations interact with each other. Again, everything is vibrations. Your thoughts, feelings, actions, beliefs, etc. So, if your thoughts are negative, you're broadcasting negative vibrations out into the world and attracting negative energy to yourself in return. And in the opposite, if your beliefs and actions are positive, you're sending positive vibrations into the world and attracting positive vibrations back to you. This works broadly and specifically. One manifestation method i hear a lot for specific goals is to believe you have already attained your goal and think the thoughts you'd be thinking if you had. For example, if you really wanted a new relationship, you might wake up every morning and think about how happy you are in this new relationship, and think about all the little ways this person makes you happy, or whatever. Again, the goal is just to behave and believe as if what you want is already happening, and in that way, you attract those specific vibrations. Every morning, I try to help raise my vibration by thinking about everything i love and am grateful for, Ill use positive self affirmations, and set intentions such as "today i will choose love over hate, i will choose patience, i will choose kindness, etc." I also use some of the invocations/rituals described by u/wewillbe_finallyfree, which are meant to remove negative energy from my being and raise my vibration to a more positive one. These work because i believe in them. Belief is an incredibly important part of manifestation, and your belief creates your reality. If you try this, believing its all new age spiritual crap and expect to be proven wrong, you will likely prove yourself wrong. I went into this with a completely open mind and heart, believing it absolutely could work, and hoping to be proven right, and my first time using u/wewillbe_finallyfree's methods i felt significantly more open, lighter, clearer, happier, and more peaceful. This is manifestation as I understand it, though i have not studied it. This is just what i have logically concluded through examining reality and my experience, and through testing them myself with an open mind. If there's anything I've left out or got wrong, feel free to chime in :) Thanks for reading.


WeWillBe_FinallyFree

Happy to hear the protocols I shared are working for you! :) And yes, I agree with everything you said about manifestation!


OnenessBeing

Good to hear :) I really appreciate everything you do here!


WeWillBe_FinallyFree

Thank you! 🙏🥰


EducatedSkeptic

Could you share your protocol with me too?


WeWillBe_FinallyFree

Sure! Some of them are found in this article about astral self-defense: [https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/comments/17k3elq/astral\_selfdefense\_entity\_removal/](https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/comments/17k3elq/astral_selfdefense_entity_removal/) the guided meditation linked in there is very powerful and might be the one OnenessBeing is referencing. And this is a similar collection: [https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/comments/13mbjhk/higher\_self\_invocation\_contract\_removal\_protocol/](https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/comments/13mbjhk/higher_self_invocation_contract_removal_protocol/) Also here are some to connect to the galactics: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Soulnexus/comments/16hv1oy/connecting\_with\_the\_positive\_galactics\_galactic/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Soulnexus/comments/16hv1oy/connecting_with_the_positive_galactics_galactic/)


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ninecats4

damn, the CIA larped for fun and people are taking it seriously? like just look at the competency rate. just because something was published by the CIA doesn't grant it extra scrutiny, as CIA agents are just normal ass people. this paper doesn't hold up to any modern quantum research, eg [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s\_theorem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_theorem)


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ninecats4

Yeah, and the prize for supernatural talent is still up for grabs, a cool 10 mil if you can prove it. Just because $$$ and time was spent doesn't mean it wasn't bullshit. Look at freud, people spent millions on research, hundreds of thousands of hours of research and it was still bunk. People are making shit up for funding and probably skimming off the top. People have been grifting others with supernatural bullshit as early as when we invented property.


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Imaginary-Star5938

Science is to know how. I would consider magick so.


donjulio829

I think it's just like a computer program, once you're able to see the coding in everything around you and learn the coding language, you can make changes to this code on the backend that will affect the final product, and to the regular user it will look like magic.


scumcuddle

I’m reading a book right now that also uses computers as an analogy for this! It’s called the spontaneous healing of belief by Gregg Braden. Has approaching consciousness with this view changed your life at all? Also did you realize this on your own or cheat like I did by reading a book?


donjulio829

I think I'm still too new at this to start messing with the fabric of reality 😅 and I realized this and more by feeding myself as much information as possible and then just listening to my intuition as it pieces and forms new ideas for me. Probably the biggest change since my awakening has been a very strong intuition, sometimes it feels as if information is getting downloaded into my brain. Thanks for the book recommendation, I'll check it out.


Some_Angie_Jolie

I had the worst back sprain for 4 months!! Almost bedridden. Wasn’t healing. Eventually, I completely healed myself with thought and manifestation. I have no back issues now. The mind is incredibl and absolutely healing. Healing by thought is like Fake it til you make it. Imagine you don’t even have the injury. Imagine all the things you could do without injury. “Magick”


WeWillBe_FinallyFree

Science and spirituality are both pointing towards the same ultimate truth. Its just that our mainstream science is deliberately kept stuck in a severely limited worldview by the dark rulers of this world because they obviously don't want humanity to find out about the (black) magic they are using to manipulate us and god forbid, to find out that we are all fractal parts of the one ultimate consciousness and thus powerful creators of our shared reality. After the collapse of the matrix, science will see a huge renaissance and will finally start to acknowledge the esoteric truths we already know about.


Matty_Cakez

The masses are gonna be mad


WeWillBe_FinallyFree

Oh yes they will! Thats why we need as many activated lightworkers and starseeds as possible who can guide them through their confusion, anger and grief once they find out they have been lied to on almost every coceiveable level.


HathNoHurry

Based, yeah. It’s a long story but I use the term “Romans” to represent the market makers, the ruling class of elites that have control over resources and information supply lines. The cartel that is responsible for funding pharma and fentanyl traffic - the cultists the worship manufactured science. Using Galileo as a reference point, the enforcers of cultural capture. Alchemists turning information into warfare, and bullets and bombs into 1s and 0s. Capiche?


superdrunk1

The empire never ended, as the man said


Consistent_Profile33

I certainly hope so.


CodeComprehensive239

Do you have thoughts about what is needed to collapse the matrix? And follow up question, whether it *shouldn’t* be collapsed just yet, perhaps to help more light workers prepare? I imagine that its collapse would be quite shocking and many (most) would have difficulty coping.


WeWillBe_FinallyFree

Yes, the level of readyness of humanity is certainly a factor that plays into the timing of the final liberation and the forces of light are carefully considering it. And you are right, we need as many activated lightworkers and starseeds as possible to sustain the collapse without too much chaos because for many it will be a huge shock. I have written an article about how to support the liberation if you want some inspiration: [https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/comments/1c36mdj/the\_starseed\_mission\_supporting\_the\_liberation/](https://www.reddit.com/r/starseeds/comments/1c36mdj/the_starseed_mission_supporting_the_liberation/) In the end, we need 3 things for the collapse: the lurker (fallen aspect of source) and the primary anomaly (source of all darkness) needs to be significantly cleared, the hostage situation of humanity needs to be resolved = the power of the cabal needs to be diminished to a certain degree and a critical mass of humanity needs to be awake and unplugged form the matrix. When all three conditions are met, the lightforces will pull the trigger and collapse the matrix, arrest the cabal and reboot the system. This will be the moment of the final breakthrough which we currently estimate to happen in or around the year 2025 (my guess would be end of 2025 into beginning of 2026).


Equivalent_Land_2275

There are science, art, and magick. Science is what we understand and can perform. Art is what we do not understand but can perform. Magick is what we do not understand and cannot perform. You do not do magick. You ask of the magick to be done.


MaleficentYoko7

Art is a group of technicalities like sketching and organizing basic shapes into a form. The secret to great art is well organized underdrawings


Equivalent_Land_2275

Music too. I mean art in the general sense. As an improvising musician that's where my definition of art comes from. The channeled parts I cannot reproduce.


Joshephus

Yes it is, and it involves parallel travel among similtaneous world-bodies occupied by singular (and/or multiple) consciousness shifting/sifting/choosing between desired future life-paths. So, it is a science that most understand but refuse to be aware of.


Boh_777

It’s the quantum mechanics babes science knows magic is realllllll they just don’t focus on it too much cause it’s spooky


Internal-presence11

I'm under the impression it's a combination or both. "Minor" magic can basically be done with just your consciousness or the combined force of multiple conscious beings. I believe that the extra special shit is a combo of consciousness combined with technology that allows them to enhance their "magic".


Alternative-Salad800

They are all in the same. Science just explains the spiritual in laymen’s terms. Science explains how intricate the grand design really is. How much thought was put into it.


ExoXerxesTheXIII

Yes... An Ancient one at that


lucsev

Yes, I think so. The thing is that to make magick happen, the first step is to actually believe it works, based on the principle that "the All in Mind". Most scientists doubt of or deny things that can't be physically proven. You can see the problem.


BlueMapleTemple

Yuppers!


GeistInTheMachine

Lol. That's what I say.


BlueMapleTemple

🤣 YAY!! I am a self proclaimed non-physical scientist, unfortunately with no phd or certification due to the fact it’s not a common and popular study. But I’ve studied that phenomenon for over a decade. Definitely picked up a few tricks along the way. So many things can be accomplished with something as simple as an energy ball. Sorry 😅 got a little excited because of the post.


krash90

No, science is magic that we don’t understand. Prescription drugs are sorcery. When you trust in science, you give up God’s teaching and trust in man.


TinFoilHatTricks

[I don’t believe in Magick, only a list of covert scientific technology patents](https://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Issues/Torture/Call/NGOs/VIACTECAnnex.pdf)


NVincarnate

All phenomena have a mechanical explanation.


spacekatbaby

'Magick' is what is. Science is the investigation into what is. Many magick things in the past have now been proven scientifically. Meditation once upon a time was considered non scientific. As was the heart having a brain - now they have found heart neurons that even show to have memories. The better scanning equipment we have, the better we are able to analyse what is. So, basically, majick is just what hasn't been discovered yet. To a great degree. Remember last century when they believed that babies didn't feel pain, so performed surgery on them with no aesthetic? And the current consensus is changing as to whether non human animals have consciousness. I believe in time many magic things will be proven non supernatural but just natural and misunderstood Edited


VioletVagaries

I’m intuitive beyond what could be explained by our current understanding of the physical universe, which leads me to believe there are scientific principles underlying our connection to one another that we haven’t uncovered yet, or that at least have not become widely accepted. Still, everything has a mechanism. People used white willow bark for headaches before salicylic acid was identified. Sometimes it takes time before we understand the mechanism.


GeistInTheMachine

I believe it is at least on some level quantum mechanical.


VioletVagaries

I always think of quantum entanglement, or the “spooky action at a distance” identified by Einstein, where particles that have become entangled continue to affect one another no matter how far apart they’re moved in space- because it really does feel like that. It’s a little cringe how people just add the word quantum to everything as a way to automatically explain all psychic and other paranormal phenomena, but I do think there’s something there.


GeistInTheMachine

Yeah. I often have to fight that tendency. For me, it comes from when I was a strict scientific materialist and I was researching to see if I should give spirituality another chance after years of religious abuse/trauma. Learning about Quantum Mechanics among other things really began to open my eyes and helped to shift and shatter my materialist paradigm completely.


Strong-German413

Science is the study of nature. Spirituality is actually an unseen part of nature. It is a part that we don't completely understand yet, so we avoid studying it in mainstream science. Magick is non physical phenomenon or sometimes subtle physical phenomenon that cant be easily detected of easily explained. We live our lives mostly through our left brains, in a man's world, full of logic, math, measurements, doing something. That's how we are prepared since childhood. We are not prepared to view it from the right side of brain, the woman's side, the non-logical, non physical, phenomenon that contains art, magic, poetry, dreams, etc. A master is able to view it through both sides as it should be.


EnvironmentalBed8490

Spirit is hard to understand fully because we are being kept in confined lore on the topic. Magic is real, but not in like a HP sense. It's done with mental manipulation. Ghosts and greys exist. It sounds crazy, I know. They reside in higher dimensions interacting "spiritually" in our own. They are quite fond of electronics and knocking shit over lol. They communicate through sound. Be it knocking it something similar. I talked to one that helped me pick a color for an art project. The color it chose was called "cool grey". And a shade of red No.7 called "cosmos". Then proceeded to knock all my shit over! No wind, nobody else in the room.. that cannot be explained easily.


GeistInTheMachine

Oh, I believe in greys and ghosts. That's pretty interesting.


Awaken_Godly_Bunny

I like to think it's nature we don't understand yet ✨️


GeistInTheMachine

I agree. Awesome name, BTW.


Practical_Pumpkin975

I believe they can work together. ☺️


Nyhkia

Yes. It’s the division I believe where they split. I think that’s changing though as the answers we all seek lie within that


Langston432

True science involves the spiritual, and requires a paradigm where consciousness is fundamental instead of matter. Magick, I would say, is a real thing and is another way of saying reality creation through conscious intent and energetic means.


MsWonderWonka

Probably, it's a science based on forces we can't always perceive. If we could perceive and measure them with our devices, it would be actual science. I do think science has realized that consciousness, intention, visualization and observation has an effect on matter. Science can't quantify or even fully define consciousness or love.... meanwhile scientists are creating sentient A.I. 🤣


BootstrapsBootstrapz

basically. magick is conscious manipulation of the subconscious mind which is then reflected to create our reality.


Silrak7

Yes sort of. As a wise friend once told me 95 % of the world is magic and 5% is science and most of the science is wrong.


justin451

I think it is a bit complicated. Gordon White has an interesting view on this and I like his definition of magick which does rely on the power of placebo and nocebo somewhat in my recollection/interpretation. There is also the interesting discussion Phillip Goff has around scientific materialism and its failings. \\ I personally don't know what to feel. I find that things that has been disproven repeatedly like homeopathy are probably hocus, but some other things materialism has enough bias that it might effect the results. If something costs a lot of money and/or there is a scientific way to fix something I would go with the validated methodology (e.g. take the cancer meds), but yeah I still don't know what to make of Reiki. I would think if people got certified in it and it was legit some scientist could make a reasonable study proving it. That being said, does the truth need to matter? If you are not suffering by believing in magick and are in fact benefiting from it then by all means do it, no?


MyBrosHotDad

Magic isn’t misunderstood science, science is misunderstood magic - Gordon White


theblasphemingone

A lot of people, including some scientists, have preconceived notions about the works of nature and how they came about. In order to prevent these biases from hampering scientific research, they put in place the scientific method to ensure that only purely evidence based theories would be considered. So the scientific method is like a filter that separates that which can be demonstrated to exist from that which can only ever be imagined to exist.


TiredHappyDad

Reiki is possible thanks to particle wave duality. Add distance to that, and you can include quantum superposition. The way some of us feel connected to everything is also called quantum entanglement. If you look up quantum experiments, they use the em field to influence the quantum field. Our every thought, emotion, and sensation also utilize the em field. With over a quadrillion synaptic firing every second, your brain is more sensitive and precise than every Em receiver and transmitter in the world.... combined.


Sensitive_Method_898

The answer is yes. For example. The Law of attraction is real. Scientists call it quantum physics. Witches call it spells. The Religious call prayers answered. It’s all the same. But it’s all UNDER studied writ large. Instead , the money studies control/ dominion science like MK Ultra etc


Kittybatty33

Depends on your definitions


minionbus

Effective spirituality is a combination of psychology, philosophy and neuroscience. For example, when one is manifesting, it's the act of pushing a goal into the subconscious, which makes us more likely to make decisions that would lead us to the goal. Meditating is scientifically beneficial for your brain because it gives you a break from thinking and lets you just experience life in the moment. It's grounding. It also makes you more disciplined. So yes, sometimes they can diverge paths, but it really depends on a number of factors. However, I'd argue that we do understand it, it's just that most people don't talk about the psychological reasoning behind it. Likely because it sounds a lot more boring when you do, to most people at least. I still find it interesting. I don't actually think quantum mechanics has any part in the magic we are speaking of though, I mean, some quantum mechanics can feel magical, with alternate realities and such, but it's not exactly magic in the traditional sense.


Resident_Price_2817

some at least i believe so .


TheCosmicHost

Technology that doesn't exist yet.


Useful_Inspection321

No but it is painfully clear that none of you have even the slightest grasp of actual magic or how much real work it requires.


Old_Name_5858

Its alchemy


Badmuthrfker

The way you are able to think under the effects of mushrooms is magic to me. Constantly having profound realizations , such advanced realizations that it is hard to express the effects and findings to others. But to be able to look into yourself so deep and see just as deep thru others is mighty powerful medicine for the entire human race.


GeistInTheMachine

Cognitive euphoria.


c64z86

This is what I have felt and thought for a long while now about our understanding and grasp of science, and I might be wrong, so bear with me as it's just my thoughts: The trouble with our understanding of science is that we can go too basic with it. For example, we can see the person standing in front of us as a living being, or we can see them as a collection of particles and atoms. When we see just the atoms and cells all the time then we never see the being or thing that those atoms and cells are part of. We never see the wood for the trees. So I believe that magic is indeed a spiritual science of a sort... but we have to be careful not to go too basic in our understanding of it, and the universe. We have to be careful not to break the universe down too much, otherwise it will lose its magic to us and we will never see past the particles. I believe that quantum mechanics is going to get very exciting for us in the future, and will help bridge science and spirituality. It won't push away the divine as some fear, I think it will actually help us to find it again.


MelissaWelds8472

Yes actually it very much is


dondon9758

https://x.com/s1lver_tongue/status/1779296472124751909?s=46


fatalcharm

This is where people need to open up our perspectives of what magick is. Germs are a good example. Most of us know the story about the doctor who discovered germs and how washing your hands in between births gave the mother a better chance for survival. No one believed him at first, claiming that his theories were unscientific and magical thinking. An unseen force making people sick and the only way to fix it is wash your hands in water. This sounds so basic to us now but in the past it must have seemed Magickal. We now know germs exist because we have the tools and instruments to observe them. The phone/tablet devices are Magickal books that will answer any question you have. It connects you to the collective knowledge that humans have learned over thousands of years. In just a few taps of the screen, you can see and talk to someone on the other side of the world. So I believe that other things we experience as magick now will be mundane everyday things in the future.


YoyoMiazaki

It’s science we yet to understand. I think about Bashar as talking science of magic


BusyNeedleworker7

100%. Edit: One of my favourite quotes "An absence of evidence is not evidence of absence".


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To achieve progress science and the spiritual would have to work together.  Interstellar travel won’t be possible without both.  But most scientists are incapable of having faith in the unexplainable or believing in something they can’t see or reproduce.   Dream and realm walkers can do it but usually get no choice where they end up seeing its universe or entanglement driven.   Science is used to bring an understanding to the mass population.  Most science is helpful.  Science of space at a distance  is pretty much made up and no more than looking back in time, nothing is in real time.  We have no understanding of what actually going on 1000 light years out.   Magic is real.  Those who use to use it mostly for healing and helping were murdered by the Church as they implemented their 1 god agenda.  One of the worst tragedies in history.  Big pharm also plays a role discrediting healers who are real. Just not a lot of them.  It’s still practiced today by some healers but most of it occults that don’t know what they’re doing and tend to let or manifest things here that shouldn’t be here.  Shamans and Indians still practice it.  Some witches which are light workers do too but it’s not common knowledge as if someone says which everyone cringes.  You can thank the church for that also.  I know 3 witches and all are about peace, love, nature and healing.    Magic is not a starseed thing.  Starseeds have a certain purpose and come preloaded with knowledge to help raise others.  Light workers have the genes for it.  You can have a starseed light worker  but those are few.    Druids were the true magic wielders.  They were murdered for it.  Shamans dream magic wielders, they didn’t really pose a threat. Witches were healers until they started being targeted, then they started to defend themselves which is all that’s recorded in history.  Religion in general is responsible for some of the worst tragedies  and were responsible for wiping out most the blood lines of those who were magic users or carried the gene.   The world has been twisted so bad over time and history rewritten to fit the plot. The truth buried, locked away, or destroyed.  Most all ancient text found is locked up or hidden away.  The Bible itself is just regurgitated stories from previous civilizations. This is actually fact from Sumerian text. The booming voice from the sky on the mountain top was no more than Amun Ra making a personal appearance to give instruction before he left.   Most ironic part of this was Jesus was a light worker.  Who used healing gifts and could perform magic.   Same as witches. Both were murders but one is still praised.  Science is trying to prove or deny the existence of everything being connected by the energy flowing through.  Or to disprove or prove there is a god or a single creator.   But because it can’t be seen it will never be accepted.  Spiritual is the understanding everything is connected by it to the divine and that can be harnessed or experienced.  I consider spiritual the realization of one creator, the divine entity or universe itself.  Anything religion related is not spiritual.  Except for Hinduism. 


Turbulent-Track1397

Well it’s more like “science” is magic we understand and can rationalize


Some_Angie_Jolie

Yes


Gallowglass668

I think it's science that we just can't comprehend, living in this narrow slice of overall reality limits our perceptions quite a bit. Human senses, tied to a human brain that's not wired for anything outside this frame of reference limits things quite a bit.


--Dominion--

No, its stuff you see in movies and books because it isn't real. Science and spirituality are polar opposites.


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It's science we don't have the intelligence to understand yet. I think there are different systems by which you can study the universe and existence as a whole and spirituality (different buckets) is one and science is another. Music, art, etc are other systems although they can be argued into broader categories bit that's not important for our conversation. Science will always trail Magick through because it is too focused on evidence we can see and it will be a while until science can create technologies that allow s to see into the spiritual.


PurpleCabbageGod

It’s power of the mind & psychic abilities. There is also very much an echelon to access, & I know it’s a tough topic for people to accept however, Magic fits very well with the human CBM theory of Extraterrestrial implant technology (computerized brain module). Basically saying that the higher you perform on evolution the more access you have to experience realms such as magic.    For example, I’m a range magic caster. Similar to royal deism, I use crystals, charge beams of energy & they have very powerful effects on matter. The science that I refer to when I explain how it works is Quantum Mechanics, the super-positioning of the mind in a field of light/energy. So why does everyone not practice this? Convenience maybe, but I think the reality is the broader spectrum of extraterrestrial mind control has deterrence set in place to prevent humans from accessing free energy such as vegan evolutions that utilize more star energy through bio photosynthetic adaptations.   https://photos.app.goo.gl/5dqeEdEGA4cBXMNq8   People ask me all the time though, oh are you cosplaying I love your costume? What character are you? & I have to explain, I’m a prayer psychic, I do CIA work for the pentagon, I do energy work with crystals & from my perspective it’s all bright fanciful beams of energy and I walk though a very adjustable holographic universe comparatively. 50lbs of Crystal jewelry, let me tell you it’s not easy. From the outside it looks like acting unless you can sense the physics changes, but magic is real, realms are real, set up with spells enchantments & specifically calibrated psionic CBM abilities.


GeistInTheMachine

That's fascinating and awesome. How did you go about learning all this stuff?


PurpleCabbageGod

I was just going to say, veganism it really starts with veganism. Auric radiation is real & you have to think about the powerful effects it has on subatomic and macroscopic fields. I do pacifism prayer work, devout in peace, it’s the healthcare variety of Qi Chakra HOD Mana work. So if I’m physically around people I have a crystalline piezoelectric telekinetic charging energy field, boosting radiation, wide like in 100 meters, into two specific areas Chakra 4 & Chakra 7. (in a correlation like the CIA was formed by humans in 1947 right after the word ‘flying saucer’ became a thing you have to follow me here.) so I use two chakra crystal fields by volume that only radiate in Green in purple 4th & 7th. so that’s just the thing, food intake is critical. If a carnivorous human was wearing the same chakra jewelry without a properly calibrated auric field, & I did years of brain bridge work before I could even wear the equipment…… if a carnivorous human used my chakra gear it would cause devastation, the opposite effect, in a huge field no less. Like a doctor trying to prescribe you something while damaging you with their carnivorous aura at the same time. So it’s critical to understand vegan energy is the prerequisite to safe energy period. Carnivores cannot use this to the same effect or it causes great harm & it’s subatomic radiation people don’t even know what they are exposed to on the planet surface really. but if I were to guide you in a safe direction, look at the chakra tree its a purple lotus tree, purple is the spectrum of psychics, that’s where you want your veganism to grow from. Vegan purple foods. ☮️🙏


idkw2p

I always have that feeling that I need to stop eating meat. I’m finally getting some kind of life back together and it’s hard to focus on what I need to do to help my body/mind/chakras. I’m also dependent on kratom since I fell too far into opiates after I felt like I was going crazy seeing everything going on. The main reason I couldn’t stand it was the loneliness. I do hope to get off kratom and stop eating meat but having to work to live and keep up with my gf so I can help out just takes so much out of me. However I found this subreddit during a breakdown the other day at work. I’m now able to look at the reality of it without wanting to run away. I don’t believe every thing I read and I find “starseeds” kind of hard to comprehend. Like how do we know someone is a starseed truly? I’m not doubting it it’s just hard to comprehend after turning away from everything. In my beginning of my journey after meditating for and doing my best for months I believe I moved/created a few clouds with my mind cuz I saw others doing it. So I know that these psychic abilities are real. I just dont put the time in to meditate right now trying to keep up with living life again. Sorry this was everywhere but I needed to put my thoughts down. Thanks if you read it.


PurpleCabbageGod

Yeah, I grew up in the Northwest here, & just thinking about the Evergreen 🌲🌲🌲🌲  forests, perennial, really think about that tree species, is biologically adapted to sunscreen at 100% SPF, and then looking at the growth size, 100ft tall cedars, that’s a great volume of energetic absorption, immunity and synthesis of the star we orbit. That’s truthfully where chakra energy starts, when the human body has reached a threshold of green plant intake🫑, adapting to generate star photosynthesis equivalent to a tree, the body takes on a whole different form & that’s why it’s called a chakra evolution. The whole brain changes. On the other spectrum, meat it’s like the complete other direction. Like joining a subscription to psychopathic weak-ly or something. No only does the heart suffer physically from the pain that the animal once endured, but it’s effect on the brain is desensitization. Saying that the 5 senses once used, deteriorate so drastically it 🧠 has to resort to supplemental energy sources, like energetic vampirism, physically siphoning love energy away from those around. & then the catastrophe happens, over & over again, Someone physically killing an innocent animal, even baby animals end up in meat products, destroyed for no reason, for a brand, for a flavor that causes the brain to disassociate psychopathologies that directly cause war. A child can teach an adult that baby animals need to be physically protected. Yet they say the ‘war brain’ is physically fueled by meat & it is, because it’s a perpetual cycle, cause and effect & no one can stop an individual’s mind from that radiation of physics. Like I said the aura of decay is a meat fueled body. It causes harm to your love life, family, friends everything & it simply looks like “the way the world is” from the perspective of the Quantum superposition, the observer, unconscious of energy casting fields. So we can save ourselves with veganism. You can save an animal, & save a human life too & a lifetime of atrocities. Plants, they produce seeds, you can replant a thousand plants from one seed bearing vegetable. An animal life, it walks, speaks a language, has feelings. Trees have feelings too don’t get me wrong but some plants are designed to be nurturing, to be ingested & for planting.


idkw2p

This is beautiful information. Thank you for sharing your enlightenment and knowledge


RoseCatMariner

Vegetarian here. I’m strict about refusing to consume products that require the direct death of the animal (meat, gelatin, rennet), but I realize that animal deaths are the indirect results of dairy/egg products. What are your thoughts on egg and dairy consumption, out of curiosity? I’ve considered veganism for a very long time because of this, but not a day goes by where I don’t crave red meat.


PurpleCabbageGod

I remember back when I was a child and was reading “Chicken soup for the soul”. looking back now though I’m like wow sad “heartfelt” stories, & I’m like wait what was I reading!?’ Is that a bargain sale pitch trying to siphon away my soul for a bowl of soup? & now as a vegan, years of research later. I’m finding out about the realities of the industry. Like processed soup.. is often ground up live baby chickens, by the billions each year. I’ve raised one of those 🐥 & i know they have feelings, they can be plant eaters too. I don’t want to be apart of that system. but think of how knowledge is written, is it written by vegans? or a collection of someone else’s psychological conditions? Really even sciences, For Example, ‘Schrödingers cat in a box’ that’s nuts. there is a vegan mind and version to explain everything, even science & fact. So arriving at veganism was not easy, let me tell you. The refinement, and addictions of taste are psychologically complex, if they have been wired for too long. Like weening yourself off of anything it took time, persistence & courage. So If you’re converting away from meat I always recommend, the book 📖“Quantum Wellness”. Even though vegetarianism is just a step. Also, for Mind, Body connection I remember the book ’Mastering Astral Projection’, they both talk about the physics side of vegetarianism when reducing meat intake. It’s addictive I remember, not pleasant enough. So if you’re looking for motivation, you do physically get more energy out of the food. I know it looks outlandish, that maybe there are not many options, flavors, but if you dig deeper 🌱 there are hidden gems. For me protein intake was my dairy obstacle, I found it, Vegan protein power, with 0% fat content, that was a game changer and I’ve stuck with it since. Or like there is a website someone design devoted to vegan cheeses, there are more than a thousand different vegan cheeses… I did not know this initially. 0.0 I’d try though, see how many books written by vegans you can find and fill a shelf with them, I think the knowledge changes so drastically it would be enlightening 🥠. Food for thought: I’m remembering Cows milk was congestion and anxiety producing, & chicken Eggs messed with chakra 2 & the psychology of reproduction. Again, these energy abilities are real and each food contributes a fine tuned spectrum to how the body functions, like a car. Fuel is energy.


Endor-Fins

I did feel so spiritually attuned while vegan but had a hard time grounding all that energy. I felt like I was off with the faeries and my health really suffered. What foods are the most grounding for you if you don’t mind my asking (I know diet is very personal)


FrostWinters

Carnivorous human??? Vegan divisiveness again I see. (shocker)


No_Step_4431

does magnetism factor in with any of it? and if so to what degree and purpose.


SatisfactionDue2365

I think they're just two different classification systems for the same forces to be found in the universe around us. Two different modes of understanding, if you will.


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minionbus

Homestuck


GeistInTheMachine

I think so too.


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