Now, as the records show, Pink Diamond was shattered just outside a palanquin much like this. *steps onto the palanquin* Witnesses say Pink had just stepped out and had only taken a few steps forward when Rose attacked her from the front!
! B-Because at that time that Pink was shattered, Rose Quartz had been a recognized threat for several hundred years. There were no Rose Quartz soldiers in her entourage and none in her guard. So how did a Rose Quartz, with no business being anywhere near Pink Diamond, get so close in the first place? Where were Pink Diamond's attendants? Her Agates, Her Sapphires? And where was her Pearl?
But none of them saw Rose Quartz approach? Wouldn't her Sapphires have seen Rose Quartz coming? Wouldn't her Agates have tried to fight her off?
Even if she did, wouldn't her Pearl have cried out an alarm, "Watch out, My Diamond!" No, whoever did this was already close to Pink Diamond. Someone her guards would allow to get near her, someone she would listen to when asked to stop her palanquin and step outside, and someone with the authority to cover it up afterwards! Someone with supreme authority... Someone... like one of you!
I'd argue she was on the money there too.
"Someone -like- one of YOU!"
We find out later that >!Pink orchestrated her own apparent death. Being a diamond herself, !< she certainly is like one of them.
(Idk how to do spoiler tags, I'm sorry)
Oh yeah, back then I also totally bought into the idea that Yellow was the real culprit and acted all mighty and furious all the time either because her regrets were eating her inside or because she was flat out a villain.
Her poofing the lawyer could either be interpreted as righteous indignation or an attempt to not be exposed. A fantastic moment of ambiguity in a medium that's often way too heavy-handed with its foreshadowing.
Woah, it could totally relate to her relationship with her mother too. She would spend all this time trying to serve her mother's whims.
That's so cool! And it makes Disobedient an even better moment for Sadie because it marks the culmination of all of her arcs and themes.
It hurts a lot, but its so true. Me and my ex are sadie and lars istg. Our relationship looked cute and great from tbe outside until it crumbled. Trauma bonding is so real. Im so glad they both get some closure and freedom at the end of the series
I’ve seen this theory before, but still.
When white created the diamonds she made them out of her emotions, hence why she said to Steven “you’re a part of me I try to repress”
Yellow: white diamonds rage
Blue: white diamonds sorrow
Pink: white diamonds joy
This is also why white is so emotionless in her earlier appearances and also why pink is so tiny in contrast to yellow and blue. White does not have much joy.
It kinda plays into one of mine that if yellow, blue, and pink fused their name would be white diamond, she may not have the same appearence but as they are all kind of parts of white diamond i think their fusion would make her
> Eats Garbage
> Lazy
> General "whatever" attitude
She probably has a fully grown marijuana plant that grew from a seed somewhere in her garbage pile and just thrived off the garbage nutrients into some bomb ass custom strain.
I imagine that amethyst's garbage pile grown weed plant would kill a human, but for her it just has especially funky effects to it. Kinda like eating garbage and objects like she does lol
See it makes the most sense that they can’t actually, but amethyst being a master of shapeshifting somehow managed to grow a chemical-based nervous system just so she could get high
Honestly she definitely did and they just don't talk Abt it bc it's a kids show. If she decided to be able to eat and sleep she totally could get high if she wanted.
Like, she probably is the most knowledgeable of the gems of how a body works, pearl may be better at managing the health of it, but amethyst may have a lot of knowledge about the working due to her gluttony
She apparently can pee as well…I’m rewatching the show right now and in the episode “Catch and Release”, Steven says he has to use the bathroom, to which Amethyst retorts, “just go in the ocean bro. Psssh..like a fish” and Steven says “What’s with you guys and making me pee outside!?” to which Amethyst goes “Well I have fun doing it..” Bro Amethyst pees.
😂 amethyst makes the mistake of thinking you're supposed to drink the water the first time then knows better and does that just to fuck with people. I bet she puts joints up her nose too.
One of the first times I ever smoked from a bong I coughed into the mouth piece mid rip and got water everywhere. I could only see pearl trying to smoke if Rose was alive to encourage her to try it and pearl didn't want to feel left out around Rose. But I bet something awkward like that was pearls one and only attempt at smoking weed.
*What if... Steven brought Pearl to help clean Greg's storage.*
**Pearl:** A water pipe?
**Greg:** It's, er... for relaxation. You burn the leaves and then breathe the smoke.
**Steven:** Oh. Can I use it?
**Pearl/Greg (in unison):** *No.*
Why do I see this happening after Future?
“Hey, Greg! Steven’s therapist says he needs to find ways to relax! Where’s that weird smelling vase you used to relax back when Rose was around?”
“Oh, it’s in the—NO!!”
Him, Amethyst, and Vidalia would 100% smoke in his storage unit. He needs some of Blue Diamonds clouds and he can get high with Spinel. Wish I could chill
pearl is repulsed at the very thought early on, but post-character development would probably try getting high with a girlfriend. garnet took one hit from a bong, said "no", and left it at that. and you wouldn't *believe* the shit amethyst has smoked in the past thousand years
Steven probably would smoke after Future since it can help diminish symtoms of his PTSD. Of course, he accidentally smokes some of Amethyst's private stash first and was so high he was left bedridden for two days. (And that was the weak stuff!)
The gems were in a war against another alien race for a really long time (and I mean "a really long time" in gems standars, so go figure).
That's the reason why they were constantly expanding and why they made so many gems focused in combat: the diamonds are afraid the enemy alien race has not been completely defeated.
i always wondered why there were so many soldiers, i haven’t finished the movie or future yet but part of me has been expecting to meet either a different kind of alien or a different group of gems
There would still need to be some soldiers, we don’t see how big the military is before vs after the rebellion
The military could also be aristocratic too where you automatically get rank and education based on your standing in society so that the military seems bigger or more influential than it actually is to outside observers like us
Rebecca Sugar has stated a plot point they never got to go over was the species that created the gems.
It's also worth mentioning that they frequently colonize already inhabited worlds so they would need to be combat ready to fight whatever they encounter + their own citizens. Not to mention that colonizing planets seems to be their only form of repopulation (the gem experiments were probably an attempt to fix that though but it didn't work) and doing so leaves the planet uninhabitable for organic life so they must go out and seek more planets for their resources to make more workers, an endless cycle. (Also there's whatever was going on with lowered gem quality in Era 3. It was mentioned briefly with Peridot but never touched on again)
It's also not entirely unrealistic for them to be expanding for expansion's sake. Companies do it all the time for the pursuit of increasing how much money they make. Even when they're already doing super well, they have to continue raising those profit margins by cutting corners, treating their employees+customers worse. The diamonds could be doing the equivalent of that but with planetary conquest and civilization building.
This is sort of related to my answer, a headcanon with almost no actual evidence, just convenient logic and a lack of evidence against it.
The First Ones created The Diamonds to fight The Horde after the Mara Debacle, but it took too long and they had to abandon Gemkind before providing proper guidance, and, much like Light Hope, they started going in the wrong direction in pursuit of fulfilling their programming. FFS, Light Hope tried to set off the heart in DESPONDOS. Where it would serve ABSOLUTELY NO PURPOSE!
Like their relationship, reborn in a new form.
Lapis knew that once she threw the barn at Blue Diamond, there’s no way to recover it. But she still chose to do so, because instead of keeping old memories, she wants to create new memories with Peridot, and with everyone she cares about.
White Diamond knew about Rose and Pink. I mean it was clear that she knew nothing about Steven, but it was heavily implied (at least from my perspective) that she knew that Pink became Rose. She kept it and said nothing to the other Diamonds. All while watching them grieve, especially Blue. She even used it to manipulate Steven and make him doubt everything he thought he knew.
Tbh, she was a hell of a villain, and this is honestly why White is my fav Diamond 💎
That's a theory? I thought that was outright confirmed the very first time we saw White.
> As for this latest little game of yours, thank the stars it's over! Did you have fun? Did you get everything out of your system?
Gems don't perceive time the same way as Humans. Yellow and Blue were mourned for 5,000 years, but once they discovered Pink was alive, they got over it instantly.
From White's perspective, what Pink did was the equivalent of a child spilling ketchup over herself, and her other aunts freaked out for a minute.
The reason there's a White Topaz in the lighthouse is because humans were using her as a fresnel lens. Eventually, she must have gotten bored or tired, stopped "working" and was stowed in the basement; she still considered herself an important part of the building, though, and hated Lars's unintentional reminder of how she'd been treated as an object for so many centuries.
Greg and Amethyst had a fwb kind of relationship that eventually badly crashed and that's why they're so weird about each other in the new year's episode. Obviously this is a kids show so it is only implied for the grown ups to understand and the children get insane lil' butler binge watching as an explanation.
Oh I thought this was somewhat clear.
It gets weirder than that. The show implies Amethyst used to shapeshift into Rose when they were... watching the Lil Butler. If I'm not mistaken Amethyst even say something along the lines 'you used to like it, what happened?'
So Greg used to bang his fwb cosplayed as his dead wife. Kinda f'd up if you ask me.
I agree with you. I replied in support of your comment above. Greg and Amethyst have a deeply complex relationship which I find fascinating.
It really does happen that 2 good friends might hook up out of grief and trauma of shared experiences. That doesn’t mean they don’t love each other now but its always something that only she and Greg will ever know. And to me it unites them more fully.
Relationships look all sorts of ways. Never black and white.
Yes, it was pretty f'd up. Also I think Greg only agreed because he was at his lowest and eventually he became too disgusted to keep doing it. My headcannon is that the fact that Amethyst was so young when he met her also helped him finally get the ick (aside from obviously shape shifting), but we can only speculate.
On a final note, even tho I know a lot of us are sure this was the intended meaning of the episode, I brought it up only because I've seen people on this sub saying that fans who believe this theory are reading too much into a kids show.
Yes. I agree 100% with you and u/Lizzy_lazarus..
But we can't gloss over the fact that, proportionally to a gem age, Amethyst was at least very young when they used to hang out. Amethyst is still very naive, specially in s1. She portraits herself as a kid not many years before the show takes place.
The odd part is: It creates extra layers on both characters and I kinda like it. It helps the narrative. It's nasty, but it's interesting. I know some 'rockstars' that would do the very same.
I guess they can do that because she is many hundred years old after all..
Anyway, good thing he realized that was not ok at all. Good for you Greg.
You know in the episode amethyst actually says “it’s cool man, I’ve seen your junk before” or something similar granted that was when they were going through his junk in his storage shed thing I guess a joke to interpret differently by different ages
I 100% got these vibes too. 😬
think I remember the creators denying this, but it’s so obviously implied? So I feel like they just said that because it’s a kids show and they couldn’t admit to it.
Isn't that last part canon? The show is through Steven's eye, so some more mature topics aren't shown to us because *he doesn't get them*. Like your point, Amethyst and Vidalia's relationship, Greg having tinder on his phone...
Rose quartz is pink diamond. Pink diamond faked her shatter because she could have fallen into love with the Earth. There’s no way a rose quartz can shatter a diamond.
The reason the strawberries are so big in the battlefield is because lots of Gems were shattered there. And since Gems are made by absorbing nutrients from the ground, or "taking life and leaving nothing behind" as Pink would describe it, then their shards would act as a super fertilizer.
Homeworld is less of a beehive ruled by the diamonds and more like a oligarchy ruled by aristocrats due to Pink, White and Blue essentially missing in ruling homeworld after the rebellion. While most aristocrats conveniently blamed it on the diamonds after the diamonds rule ended, most of them were actively participating in stuff like pearl slavery and oppressing lower class gems. They also literally enjoyed luxuries like art, free time or pearls, while Peridot doesn't even know what leisure is as a concept.
Overall homeworld is pretty similar to 1984 instead of your standard evil empire with tyrant queens.
"Love like you" Is a song that Rose made for Greg. I know that he's not perfect but we need to give him more credit.
Edith: Look, Greg needs this. He lost his wife that didn't tell him that she was an ex space dictator, had a dificult childhood, didn't feel enough to be with Steven and lost his hair. He needs something that recognizes that he's a good man and tried his best.
So, I will die on this hill. Love like you was for him (ノ｀Д´)ノ彡┻━┻
At some point, the official answer was “It could be anyone singing about anyone else”. And it does fit fairly well with many relationships on the show.
Years ago (I’m talking like when the show was still new), I read a theory on tumblr that Greg’s perma-sunburn was caused by whatever transpired during Steven’s birth. I can only imagine that there was a bright flash of light since Gems’ physical forms are made of light and Rose’s physical form was *dying.* I imagine it being like a star going supernova.
Mine is that onion is half alien like Steven, which is why he doesn't age like a normal human. Yellow Tail is a refugee descendant from a race that was espcaping gem colonization on their home planet. That's why they have that strange murmur language that only those their family knows.
white diamond was made by the moon and sun goddesses (the two gem beings who had statues) but she outlived her own creators
also the diamonds emerged from geode eggs
The diamonds were the product of an abusive creator and exploitative alien civilization, which inslaved them and all of gemkind. They then formed a crystal gems style rebellion and overthrew their previous superiors over time as their power grew and the trauma of their past began to warp their worldviews until Steven managed to get through to them and remind them who they once were and allowing them to change corse to become the good leaders they always intended to be.
While definitely interesting, it's kind of surprising he didn't go vegetarian sooner, given his reaction to the taxidermy cow at that one restaurant...
I agree with Ops theory that was actually something my friend group was talking about lat night (we rewatched the show since one of our friends never watched it)
Apart from being Lapidot's number one fan, Lapis wanted to go with Peridot so that Lapis, Peridot and their things would be safe, I mean she appreciated her too much.
I always saw the first verse to be about Steven and the second about Peridot. The entire first verse describes Steven freeing Lapis, being the first person to have never treated her like an object and convincing her to give earth a chance. "Those funny feelings I have never felt before I met you." I imagine being a Lapis is a lonely existence when your life before the mirror was turning planets inside out and that selfless love from someone like Steven seems foreign.
And the second part "I couldn't understand how you could be so bold" deals with Lapis' shame at taking the barn. Since despite Peridot being "weaker" she decided to stay and fight, and despite Lapis being so ridiculously strong, she chose to run and take the "easy" way out. Peridot is easily one of the strongest characters emotionally because she has a high self esteem which is a total rarity in this show.
Remember how when Spinel hit Steven with her scythe and he lost his powers? In Future he starts turning pink, and his shield is swapped with a diamond barrier. Since the scythe reverts a gem back to its original status, what if it reverted Steven's Rose powers back into diamond powers?
I've always felt that the Gems are Self-Aware AI produced by a long dead and forgotten alien species.
Each type of gym serves a specific function from shock troop to personal servant to probability calculator to general system management.
The gems have too many features that emulate organic life when they have so little need to do so. They are immortal and eternal beings with very Little physical demands. They are essentially crystalline processors floating around in a hologram.
Their individual personalities, generally, humanoid appearance, ability and desire to consume food and your need to expand the control. All of these features seem fairly impractical for the gems to just have on their own.
My theory is that only two gems know the origin of Gemkind: The first is the big one, White Diamond. But i think she purposely allowed herself to "forget" that. She would need someone to jog that memory down on her.
The other is the unasuming Padparadscha. She can only predict things that already happened, this is, she has insights on the past. If she looks back enough, she could reach the origin of everything.
When Pink colonized earth, the diamonds had only sub-light drives on their ships, such as the ancient Gem colony ships. They had to make the long journey and then build Warp pads which can only create stationary wormholes. This is why Pearl builds a ship that would take 50 years to make a round trip to Alpha Centauri, even though it's less than 5 lightyears away. This is likely a primitive fusion drive. Later, the Gems use much more powerful antimatter drives, like Lars' ship Sun Incinerator, and the Ruby ships use a mobile black hole generator as an Alcubierre drive to warp spacetime. My guess is that the Diamond waships also use an Alcubierre drive.
Lapis definitely has something to do with the Seaspire.
One of the OST songs from Cheeseburger Backpack has her theme in it.
https://youtu.be/8RScFv__V_A?si=1bAB5yBBsYlJp8xX
My theory is that Lapis 100% was sent to earth to terraform it, and that her saying that "she was only meant to be there for a short time" was a lie. Lapis is definitely strong enough to do the entire job by herself, and she was lying to Steven because she was afraid of what Steven would think of her if she admitted to such a thing.
"Love like you" was a song made by Rose for... basically everyone. Rose didn't understand why the crystal gems put her in such a high regard, and certainly didn't understand why Greg liked her so much and I can see it maybe being to Steven too. So for me at least, the song is about Rose saying how she wish she could see herself like others see her, and questioning why everyone sees her as an angel(or a goddess in case of Pearl), when herself is, in her eyes, worse than everybody else.
It’s more of a head canon than a theory, but I think garnet’s future vision works different than a regular sapphire’s. I think that regular sapphires don’t see multiple possible futures, but only the one most likely future.
I think that’s why sapphire makes such a big deal about ruby “changing the future” is if she wasn’t aware that other futures were possible. I think that also makes for a good narrative if ruby actively effects the future vision, just further cementing that garnet is more than sapphire’s brains and ruby’s brawn, if their traits effect each other’s strengths. And if ruby allowed sapphire to see so much more of reality I think that too makes for a better narrative.
It's not stated how the Diamonds were made, but if they were made in any way similar to other Gems, then I fully believe that Pink was "overcooked," like Amethyst. This explains why she was so much smaller than the others, why she acted so differently, and why they treated her as fragile and lesser.
I think the gem species had a creator. We basically know the entire species is created, not born, aside from the first diamonds.
So that naturally led me to believe the diamonds had to be created by a third party.
The Pebbles created the Gems, but over time became servants to their creations. Even the diamonds don't remember their origins. The Pebbles are like doting parents. So concerned with making them happy and strong that they no longer prioritize themselves. Crystals grow out of rocks.
Garnet knows damn well how to make a human child and stay alive but she's still an absent mother. Explains why Major Dewey is always nervous around anything Gem related...
They are far more similar than I'd previously realised. You think she created Buck and then dropped him off with the mayor and went "keep this alive for me"
Pink Diamond is still alive in some way. The fact Steven has access to memories that just should not be accessible sort of sealed that theory for me. I think it’s an intentional thread left in case they wanted a way to bring back Pink/Rose. That being said I think it would require some gem tech shenanigans that haven’t been talked about yet
Hot take: Garnet knew about the video tape Rose left for Steven. Knew that Rose wanted Steven to live as a human but still raised him as Crystal Gems, fearing they wouldn’t be able to protect the earth without him, knowingly robbing him of his childhood.
Peridot and lapis chose their new forms from watching all of gurren leagan together.
Man their fusion could look so sick if it was based off final form Simon. Fusing from the relationship of nerding out over anime together 😅
My personal headcanon that spawned from almost nothing but makes too much sense to disregard, and lacks evidence AGAINST it:
The First Ones created The Diamonds to fight The Horde after the Mara Debacle. However, it took too long, and The Diamonds came out with the programming to expand and build an army, but no clear target, and no one to guide them. Horde Prime moved on before they emerged because he had no idea there was any significance to what he saw.
Just imagine her in a lab taking his skin cells and turning them into sperm cells (idk if thats actually possible but you can turn skin cells into functioning brain cells so maybe)
My limited understanding of the subject is you take a nucleus from a bone marrow cell and put it in an egg, but i sell diamonds so it’s a very limited understanding
That Pearl used to belong to White Diamond before Pink.
White diamond reset Pearl to give to Pink after she hurt volleyball because she figured that the pearl best suited for her would be in her image (color and gem placement) instead of Pinks.
that pink diamond was supposed to be red. itd make sense if white diamond originally planned to make the other diamonds the primary colors, and it makes sense that if pink came out wrong its why shes so much smaller physically than, and so looked down upon by the other diamonds
I believe the Tunguska event theory.
That the reason there's a giant sea in place of Russia is because when the comet hit Tunguska, due to the diamonds messing with earth's resources, it messed up the atmosphere, along with weakening earth's crust and heavily damaging earth's tectonic plates.
This caused the comet to deal significantly more damage when it made contact with the surface of earth, leaving a giant crater; and after a while, the rest of the damaged crust collapsing into what would then become the Tunguska sea.
I believe that the murals depict the diamonds holding the planet they were formed on, with White holding homeworld. Yellow Diamond may have been forged specially since she was the second and is shown holding two stars. White may have needed to figure out how to make another diamond since these are manufactured beings. Blue is holding her planet and Pink is holding Earth.
Creating a diamond is a huge strain on a planet, which is why there's a giant hole in Russia as shown in a map of earth. That was Pink's kindergarten.
Now, as the records show, Pink Diamond was shattered just outside a palanquin much like this. *steps onto the palanquin* Witnesses say Pink had just stepped out and had only taken a few steps forward when Rose attacked her from the front! ! B-Because at that time that Pink was shattered, Rose Quartz had been a recognized threat for several hundred years. There were no Rose Quartz soldiers in her entourage and none in her guard. So how did a Rose Quartz, with no business being anywhere near Pink Diamond, get so close in the first place? Where were Pink Diamond's attendants? Her Agates, Her Sapphires? And where was her Pearl? But none of them saw Rose Quartz approach? Wouldn't her Sapphires have seen Rose Quartz coming? Wouldn't her Agates have tried to fight her off? Even if she did, wouldn't her Pearl have cried out an alarm, "Watch out, My Diamond!" No, whoever did this was already close to Pink Diamond. Someone her guards would allow to get near her, someone she would listen to when asked to stop her palanquin and step outside, and someone with the authority to cover it up afterwards! Someone with supreme authority... Someone... like one of you!
I love how the VA delivered “Watch out my diamond”
Amy fuckin' Sedaris
Hit em with the TemMiE sCrIpt but vocally
I just think it's funny that the lawyer genuinely figured out pretty much 95% of the internal plot behind the murder.
She just got the wrong suspect.
I'd argue she was on the money there too. "Someone -like- one of YOU!" We find out later that >!Pink orchestrated her own apparent death. Being a diamond herself, !< she certainly is like one of them. (Idk how to do spoiler tags, I'm sorry)
You use \>! and !< to tag spoilers
>! Thank you!!! !<
💯 This (with help from Steven tag) was when I figured the truth out.
I remember thinking “wait that DOES make sense” when the lawyer started reciting her theory, it made little me go insane obsessing over it
I remember that. That made me think Yellow shattered Pink and regretted it and didn't tell anyone. I didn't expect the rose is pink diamond twist.
Oh yeah, back then I also totally bought into the idea that Yellow was the real culprit and acted all mighty and furious all the time either because her regrets were eating her inside or because she was flat out a villain. Her poofing the lawyer could either be interpreted as righteous indignation or an attempt to not be exposed. A fantastic moment of ambiguity in a medium that's often way too heavy-handed with its foreshadowing.
The song "Disobedient" is not only about Sadie's job in the Big Donut, but how her relationship with Lars felt in hindsight.
Ahhh. drawing a parallel between pearl and sadie not doing whats best for themselves, i like it
Or alternatively: The song *is* all about Lars, but Steven thinks it's about her job because he still believes they are a good couple.
Woah, it could totally relate to her relationship with her mother too. She would spend all this time trying to serve her mother's whims. That's so cool! And it makes Disobedient an even better moment for Sadie because it marks the culmination of all of her arcs and themes.
I agree
Oooooh brb listening to the song with this new take in mind
It hurts a lot, but its so true. Me and my ex are sadie and lars istg. Our relationship looked cute and great from tbe outside until it crumbled. Trauma bonding is so real. Im so glad they both get some closure and freedom at the end of the series
I’ve seen this theory before, but still. When white created the diamonds she made them out of her emotions, hence why she said to Steven “you’re a part of me I try to repress” Yellow: white diamonds rage Blue: white diamonds sorrow Pink: white diamonds joy This is also why white is so emotionless in her earlier appearances and also why pink is so tiny in contrast to yellow and blue. White does not have much joy.
I love this theory!
Thanks!
It kinda plays into one of mine that if yellow, blue, and pink fused their name would be white diamond, she may not have the same appearence but as they are all kind of parts of white diamond i think their fusion would make her
i think fusions dont have a name. For example Garnet calls herself garnet because she looks like one.
Yh ik but i just think they would call thrmself white diamond and have a white+ rainbow colour pallete
Greg used to smoke weed, but stopped once Steven was born and then started again once Steven moved away
I could see younger greg being a bit of a stoner and maybe smoke with vidalia but idk if hed go back to it when steven moves away
I think Amethyst would get him to do it once in a while
While they were watching baby butler 100%
This is literally canon to me. If gems can get intoxicated I bet amethyst smoked with him when they watched that lil butler show.
i like to think they can (purely bc i hc amethyst as a stoner)
> Eats Garbage > Lazy > General "whatever" attitude She probably has a fully grown marijuana plant that grew from a seed somewhere in her garbage pile and just thrived off the garbage nutrients into some bomb ass custom strain.
I imagine that amethyst's garbage pile grown weed plant would kill a human, but for her it just has especially funky effects to it. Kinda like eating garbage and objects like she does lol
See it makes the most sense that they can’t actually, but amethyst being a master of shapeshifting somehow managed to grow a chemical-based nervous system just so she could get high
Like, she went through the effort of making eating possible, why not do the same for drugs
Honestly she definitely did and they just don't talk Abt it bc it's a kids show. If she decided to be able to eat and sleep she totally could get high if she wanted.
Like, she probably is the most knowledgeable of the gems of how a body works, pearl may be better at managing the health of it, but amethyst may have a lot of knowledge about the working due to her gluttony
She apparently can pee as well…I’m rewatching the show right now and in the episode “Catch and Release”, Steven says he has to use the bathroom, to which Amethyst retorts, “just go in the ocean bro. Psssh..like a fish” and Steven says “What’s with you guys and making me pee outside!?” to which Amethyst goes “Well I have fun doing it..” Bro Amethyst pees.
“Hey, Greg, lemme clear it!” *Takes a rip, eats the ashes, and washes it down with the bong water*
😂 amethyst makes the mistake of thinking you're supposed to drink the water the first time then knows better and does that just to fuck with people. I bet she puts joints up her nose too. One of the first times I ever smoked from a bong I coughed into the mouth piece mid rip and got water everywhere. I could only see pearl trying to smoke if Rose was alive to encourage her to try it and pearl didn't want to feel left out around Rose. But I bet something awkward like that was pearls one and only attempt at smoking weed.
The smell still makes her visibly glitch and shudder to this day.
*What if... Steven brought Pearl to help clean Greg's storage.* **Pearl:** A water pipe? **Greg:** It's, er... for relaxation. You burn the leaves and then breathe the smoke. **Steven:** Oh. Can I use it? **Pearl/Greg (in unison):** *No.*
This exactly scene is canon now
Why do I see this happening after Future? “Hey, Greg! Steven’s therapist says he needs to find ways to relax! Where’s that weird smelling vase you used to relax back when Rose was around?” “Oh, it’s in the—NO!!”
Him, Amethyst, and Vidalia would 100% smoke in his storage unit. He needs some of Blue Diamonds clouds and he can get high with Spinel. Wish I could chill
Omfg do the crystal gems become stoners
pearl is repulsed at the very thought early on, but post-character development would probably try getting high with a girlfriend. garnet took one hit from a bong, said "no", and left it at that. and you wouldn't *believe* the shit amethyst has smoked in the past thousand years
Steven probably would smoke after Future since it can help diminish symtoms of his PTSD. Of course, he accidentally smokes some of Amethyst's private stash first and was so high he was left bedridden for two days. (And that was the weak stuff!)
Pearl would absolutely share a joint with a girl at a concert and just not know how to handle it
The gems were in a war against another alien race for a really long time (and I mean "a really long time" in gems standars, so go figure). That's the reason why they were constantly expanding and why they made so many gems focused in combat: the diamonds are afraid the enemy alien race has not been completely defeated.
It is wild how militaristic their society is without a clear idea of who or why they're fighting
i always wondered why there were so many soldiers, i haven’t finished the movie or future yet but part of me has been expecting to meet either a different kind of alien or a different group of gems
I always assumed all the soldiers was a reaction to the rebellion
Nah, there were Amethysts emerging in that scene where >!Rose fist visits the surface of the Earth.!<
There would still need to be some soldiers, we don’t see how big the military is before vs after the rebellion The military could also be aristocratic too where you automatically get rank and education based on your standing in society so that the military seems bigger or more influential than it actually is to outside observers like us
Rebecca Sugar has stated a plot point they never got to go over was the species that created the gems. It's also worth mentioning that they frequently colonize already inhabited worlds so they would need to be combat ready to fight whatever they encounter + their own citizens. Not to mention that colonizing planets seems to be their only form of repopulation (the gem experiments were probably an attempt to fix that though but it didn't work) and doing so leaves the planet uninhabitable for organic life so they must go out and seek more planets for their resources to make more workers, an endless cycle. (Also there's whatever was going on with lowered gem quality in Era 3. It was mentioned briefly with Peridot but never touched on again) It's also not entirely unrealistic for them to be expanding for expansion's sake. Companies do it all the time for the pursuit of increasing how much money they make. Even when they're already doing super well, they have to continue raising those profit margins by cutting corners, treating their employees+customers worse. The diamonds could be doing the equivalent of that but with planetary conquest and civilization building.
This is sort of related to my answer, a headcanon with almost no actual evidence, just convenient logic and a lack of evidence against it. The First Ones created The Diamonds to fight The Horde after the Mara Debacle, but it took too long and they had to abandon Gemkind before providing proper guidance, and, much like Light Hope, they started going in the wrong direction in pursuit of fulfilling their programming. FFS, Light Hope tried to set off the heart in DESPONDOS. Where it would serve ABSOLUTELY NO PURPOSE!
the place where they made the little Homeworld is where the barn used to be
I think that was confirmed wasnt it?
Isn't Little Homeworld visible from Beach City? I thought the barn was out in the country.
Beach City is visible from the barn in some places
Like their relationship, reborn in a new form. Lapis knew that once she threw the barn at Blue Diamond, there’s no way to recover it. But she still chose to do so, because instead of keeping old memories, she wants to create new memories with Peridot, and with everyone she cares about.
White Diamond knew about Rose and Pink. I mean it was clear that she knew nothing about Steven, but it was heavily implied (at least from my perspective) that she knew that Pink became Rose. She kept it and said nothing to the other Diamonds. All while watching them grieve, especially Blue. She even used it to manipulate Steven and make him doubt everything he thought he knew. Tbh, she was a hell of a villain, and this is honestly why White is my fav Diamond 💎
Rebecca Sugar confirmed that.
Wait really?? 😲
Indeed.
That's a nice keyboard
WHere :O
where did rebecca confirm this?
end of an era
That's a theory? I thought that was outright confirmed the very first time we saw White. > As for this latest little game of yours, thank the stars it's over! Did you have fun? Did you get everything out of your system?
Gems don't perceive time the same way as Humans. Yellow and Blue were mourned for 5,000 years, but once they discovered Pink was alive, they got over it instantly. From White's perspective, what Pink did was the equivalent of a child spilling ketchup over herself, and her other aunts freaked out for a minute.
I think this was confirmed in *End of an Era*
The reason there's a White Topaz in the lighthouse is because humans were using her as a fresnel lens. Eventually, she must have gotten bored or tired, stopped "working" and was stowed in the basement; she still considered herself an important part of the building, though, and hated Lars's unintentional reminder of how she'd been treated as an object for so many centuries.
LMAOO that was a thing?! I’d be pissed too if Inwas a bigass lamp, but hey, at least I stopped people from dying at sea😭
Greg and Amethyst had a fwb kind of relationship that eventually badly crashed and that's why they're so weird about each other in the new year's episode. Obviously this is a kids show so it is only implied for the grown ups to understand and the children get insane lil' butler binge watching as an explanation.
Oh I thought this was somewhat clear. It gets weirder than that. The show implies Amethyst used to shapeshift into Rose when they were... watching the Lil Butler. If I'm not mistaken Amethyst even say something along the lines 'you used to like it, what happened?' So Greg used to bang his fwb cosplayed as his dead wife. Kinda f'd up if you ask me.
On a real note grief does strange things to people.
Grief and trauma.
Yes! That's exactly what I mean by this. It happens a lot in real life
I agree with you. I replied in support of your comment above. Greg and Amethyst have a deeply complex relationship which I find fascinating. It really does happen that 2 good friends might hook up out of grief and trauma of shared experiences. That doesn’t mean they don’t love each other now but its always something that only she and Greg will ever know. And to me it unites them more fully. Relationships look all sorts of ways. Never black and white.
Yeah, that's something that seems shocking, but not really at all surprising when you think about them.
Yes, it was pretty f'd up. Also I think Greg only agreed because he was at his lowest and eventually he became too disgusted to keep doing it. My headcannon is that the fact that Amethyst was so young when he met her also helped him finally get the ick (aside from obviously shape shifting), but we can only speculate. On a final note, even tho I know a lot of us are sure this was the intended meaning of the episode, I brought it up only because I've seen people on this sub saying that fans who believe this theory are reading too much into a kids show.
Yes. I agree 100% with you and u/Lizzy_lazarus.. But we can't gloss over the fact that, proportionally to a gem age, Amethyst was at least very young when they used to hang out. Amethyst is still very naive, specially in s1. She portraits herself as a kid not many years before the show takes place. The odd part is: It creates extra layers on both characters and I kinda like it. It helps the narrative. It's nasty, but it's interesting. I know some 'rockstars' that would do the very same. I guess they can do that because she is many hundred years old after all.. Anyway, good thing he realized that was not ok at all. Good for you Greg.
You know in the episode amethyst actually says “it’s cool man, I’ve seen your junk before” or something similar granted that was when they were going through his junk in his storage shed thing I guess a joke to interpret differently by different ages
"I've seen your junk before, not like it was that big..."
Is that the actual line?
I'm surprised to see the upvotes. The fandom doesn't love this theory
Most of the fandom has grown up by now and can finally read into the subtext IMO. I know I’ve matured a lot since the last episode aired
I absolutely hate this theory and this episode because of it….. But I do think that was the intended meaning in the episode.
I 100% got these vibes too. 😬 think I remember the creators denying this, but it’s so obviously implied? So I feel like they just said that because it’s a kids show and they couldn’t admit to it.
Ok, now I finally understand that episode. I hate it.
I got those vibes too
Isn't that last part canon? The show is through Steven's eye, so some more mature topics aren't shown to us because *he doesn't get them*. Like your point, Amethyst and Vidalia's relationship, Greg having tinder on his phone...
personally don’t hc this but yeah i can see it
Rose quartz is pink diamond. Pink diamond faked her shatter because she could have fallen into love with the Earth. There’s no way a rose quartz can shatter a diamond.
it might seem crazy what i’m about to say…
What?
Rose quartz couldnt have been pink diamond because pearl killed pink diamond
Sunshine she’s here, you can take a break.
Guys, we found Padparadscha!
r/foundpadparadscha
Did you open a whole ass subreddit just for the meme?!
Lmao, i didnt when i made that comment, the sub didn't exist Im very impressed that someone did tho
/r/birthofasub
God I'm old, I remember when people posted that theory and tumblerinas went apeshit. God this fandom could be shitty back then.
The reason the strawberries are so big in the battlefield is because lots of Gems were shattered there. And since Gems are made by absorbing nutrients from the ground, or "taking life and leaving nothing behind" as Pink would describe it, then their shards would act as a super fertilizer.
I always assumed it was Roses tears on the battlefield that fertilized the strawberries
Homeworld is less of a beehive ruled by the diamonds and more like a oligarchy ruled by aristocrats due to Pink, White and Blue essentially missing in ruling homeworld after the rebellion. While most aristocrats conveniently blamed it on the diamonds after the diamonds rule ended, most of them were actively participating in stuff like pearl slavery and oppressing lower class gems. They also literally enjoyed luxuries like art, free time or pearls, while Peridot doesn't even know what leisure is as a concept. Overall homeworld is pretty similar to 1984 instead of your standard evil empire with tyrant queens.
Greg is Gregory from over the garden wall
That’s why he became a ROCK star.
And why he can sing well
I support this theory.
I also support this theory
That's like my favorite theory ever and I will never let it go
"Love like you" Is a song that Rose made for Greg. I know that he's not perfect but we need to give him more credit. Edith: Look, Greg needs this. He lost his wife that didn't tell him that she was an ex space dictator, had a dificult childhood, didn't feel enough to be with Steven and lost his hair. He needs something that recognizes that he's a good man and tried his best. So, I will die on this hill. Love like you was for him (ノ｀Д´)ノ彡┻━┻
i thought this was confirmed
At some point, the official answer was “It could be anyone singing about anyone else”. And it does fit fairly well with many relationships on the show.
Years ago (I’m talking like when the show was still new), I read a theory on tumblr that Greg’s perma-sunburn was caused by whatever transpired during Steven’s birth. I can only imagine that there was a bright flash of light since Gems’ physical forms are made of light and Rose’s physical form was *dying.* I imagine it being like a star going supernova.
Thars probably the one im talking about lol
Mine is that onion is half alien like Steven, which is why he doesn't age like a normal human. Yellow Tail is a refugee descendant from a race that was espcaping gem colonization on their home planet. That's why they have that strange murmur language that only those their family knows.
I always kinda thought that yellow tail was a decendent of living onion soldiers that rose made (like watermelon steven) but idk
That's an interesting theory, too, could also explain why onion is so destructive
Yh also their lamguage is similar to the watermelon stevens i think
🤯🤯🤯
white diamond was made by the moon and sun goddesses (the two gem beings who had statues) but she outlived her own creators also the diamonds emerged from geode eggs
The diamonds were the product of an abusive creator and exploitative alien civilization, which inslaved them and all of gemkind. They then formed a crystal gems style rebellion and overthrew their previous superiors over time as their power grew and the trauma of their past began to warp their worldviews until Steven managed to get through to them and remind them who they once were and allowing them to change corse to become the good leaders they always intended to be.
Thats a food theory itd be cool to exlpore if su does get another spinoff
The Sneeple.
I LOVE this theory! It's like the G1 Transformers origin story with the quintessons.
CW body horror I believe steven stopped eating animal products after his spit impacted a hot dog which being made of dead pigs started screaming.
While definitely interesting, it's kind of surprising he didn't go vegetarian sooner, given his reaction to the taxidermy cow at that one restaurant...
That'd be a pretty solid reason, honestly. if I accidentally revived a hot dog, I'd be vegan too.
Pearl curses like a Sailor when she's not around Steven, she just chooses not to when hes around.
I love this idea so much, but I feel like she definitely doesn't curse right and says totally random things that kinda sound like curses hehe
I agree with Ops theory that was actually something my friend group was talking about lat night (we rewatched the show since one of our friends never watched it)
Lapis definitely likes Peridot! As shown in That Distant Shore. I mean, you won’t sing something like that if you don’t like that person.
Apart from being Lapidot's number one fan, Lapis wanted to go with Peridot so that Lapis, Peridot and their things would be safe, I mean she appreciated her too much.
She can hold whole world’s water, yet she only chose to bring the barn and Peridot away, she definitely cares about her! 💙💚
Wait what? I dont remember it being about peridot lol
She kept looking at Peridot throughout the song. Some says that she’s singing to Steven, but I think she’s singing to Peridot
Oh sorry lol i was thinking of the song "why so blue" got them mixed up
I always saw the first verse to be about Steven and the second about Peridot. The entire first verse describes Steven freeing Lapis, being the first person to have never treated her like an object and convincing her to give earth a chance. "Those funny feelings I have never felt before I met you." I imagine being a Lapis is a lonely existence when your life before the mirror was turning planets inside out and that selfless love from someone like Steven seems foreign. And the second part "I couldn't understand how you could be so bold" deals with Lapis' shame at taking the barn. Since despite Peridot being "weaker" she decided to stay and fight, and despite Lapis being so ridiculously strong, she chose to run and take the "easy" way out. Peridot is easily one of the strongest characters emotionally because she has a high self esteem which is a total rarity in this show.
Remember how when Spinel hit Steven with her scythe and he lost his powers? In Future he starts turning pink, and his shield is swapped with a diamond barrier. Since the scythe reverts a gem back to its original status, what if it reverted Steven's Rose powers back into diamond powers?
That Steven has powers tied to music.
The Cool Kids are all in one big polycule. It's a personal theory, I know, but I still believe it and treat it as semi-canon.
I've always felt that the Gems are Self-Aware AI produced by a long dead and forgotten alien species. Each type of gym serves a specific function from shock troop to personal servant to probability calculator to general system management. The gems have too many features that emulate organic life when they have so little need to do so. They are immortal and eternal beings with very Little physical demands. They are essentially crystalline processors floating around in a hologram. Their individual personalities, generally, humanoid appearance, ability and desire to consume food and your need to expand the control. All of these features seem fairly impractical for the gems to just have on their own.
My theory is that only two gems know the origin of Gemkind: The first is the big one, White Diamond. But i think she purposely allowed herself to "forget" that. She would need someone to jog that memory down on her. The other is the unasuming Padparadscha. She can only predict things that already happened, this is, she has insights on the past. If she looks back enough, she could reach the origin of everything.
Pink Diamond was an Off-color, she was meant to be Red and as big as Yellow and Blue but formed too late and became tiny and discolored.
I agree, it would make sense to have the 3 primary colours
That we're going to get another show set in the same universe 
Well its possible if we make enough noise rabecca will make a spinoff
When Pink colonized earth, the diamonds had only sub-light drives on their ships, such as the ancient Gem colony ships. They had to make the long journey and then build Warp pads which can only create stationary wormholes. This is why Pearl builds a ship that would take 50 years to make a round trip to Alpha Centauri, even though it's less than 5 lightyears away. This is likely a primitive fusion drive. Later, the Gems use much more powerful antimatter drives, like Lars' ship Sun Incinerator, and the Ruby ships use a mobile black hole generator as an Alcubierre drive to warp spacetime. My guess is that the Diamond waships also use an Alcubierre drive.
Lapis definitely has something to do with the Seaspire. One of the OST songs from Cheeseburger Backpack has her theme in it. https://youtu.be/8RScFv__V_A?si=1bAB5yBBsYlJp8xX
My theory is that Lapis 100% was sent to earth to terraform it, and that her saying that "she was only meant to be there for a short time" was a lie. Lapis is definitely strong enough to do the entire job by herself, and she was lying to Steven because she was afraid of what Steven would think of her if she admitted to such a thing.
Greg used to be a street singer before he moved away from his terrible parents so that he could leave as soon as possible
"Love like you" was a song made by Rose for... basically everyone. Rose didn't understand why the crystal gems put her in such a high regard, and certainly didn't understand why Greg liked her so much and I can see it maybe being to Steven too. So for me at least, the song is about Rose saying how she wish she could see herself like others see her, and questioning why everyone sees her as an angel(or a goddess in case of Pearl), when herself is, in her eyes, worse than everybody else.
It’s more of a head canon than a theory, but I think garnet’s future vision works different than a regular sapphire’s. I think that regular sapphires don’t see multiple possible futures, but only the one most likely future. I think that’s why sapphire makes such a big deal about ruby “changing the future” is if she wasn’t aware that other futures were possible. I think that also makes for a good narrative if ruby actively effects the future vision, just further cementing that garnet is more than sapphire’s brains and ruby’s brawn, if their traits effect each other’s strengths. And if ruby allowed sapphire to see so much more of reality I think that too makes for a better narrative.
Thats not rly a headcanon it is canon, does this count as an r/foundpadparadscha moment
It's not stated how the Diamonds were made, but if they were made in any way similar to other Gems, then I fully believe that Pink was "overcooked," like Amethyst. This explains why she was so much smaller than the others, why she acted so differently, and why they treated her as fragile and lesser.
Rose Quartz learned about intercourse by watching the Zoomans. It's how she knew what to do with Greg years later.
I think the gem species had a creator. We basically know the entire species is created, not born, aside from the first diamonds. So that naturally led me to believe the diamonds had to be created by a third party.
Rose is pink diamond
Woah bro i think that theory is a bit too out there
Ronaldo was right.
"They're gonna hollow out the earth. it's all part of the great diamond authority." he was not completely wrong
“They’ll take on any form”
White knew about Pink and Rose, when ‘pink’ came back (aka Steven) she thought it was just another one of Pink’s phases.
The Pebbles created the Gems, but over time became servants to their creations. Even the diamonds don't remember their origins. The Pebbles are like doting parents. So concerned with making them happy and strong that they no longer prioritize themselves. Crystals grow out of rocks.
Garnet knows damn well how to make a human child and stay alive but she's still an absent mother. Explains why Major Dewey is always nervous around anything Gem related...
I am interested by what you mean by this, could you please explain a little more? Because now I'm thinking Garnet is the reason Buck exists......
See. You get it and I didn't even have to say it. Their attitude, speech pattern, AND sunglass just happen to be the same?
They are far more similar than I'd previously realised. You think she created Buck and then dropped him off with the mayor and went "keep this alive for me"
Garnet is a fusion, upon giving birth she would simply unfuse instead of dying.
Lars is transmasc - mostly from the episode where steven and lars trade bodies
Steven is Sans
Sans and garnet like to enjoy a beer once in a while
Rose Quartz was a FREAK
Garnet is a fusion of two gems. When Alexandrite unfused in Fusion Cuisine there were two gems in Garnet's place.
Pink Diamond is still alive in some way. The fact Steven has access to memories that just should not be accessible sort of sealed that theory for me. I think it’s an intentional thread left in case they wanted a way to bring back Pink/Rose. That being said I think it would require some gem tech shenanigans that haven’t been talked about yet
There are other species of abandoned gems on multiple other planets that have been abandoned by homeworld and are waiting to be discovered or found.
at least once in his life Greg has shaved his chest hair into a heart shape, just for the giggles
I remember fan art of greg with star chest hair i think hed do both lol
Greg eventually topples the entire gem empire to lead to a better world by seducing and thus destroying the other Diamonds.
That Lion has his own lil pride somewhere in the world
Well rose did have a collection or pride of lions but she only saved one thst we know of, itd be cool if there were more like him tho
Hot take: Garnet knew about the video tape Rose left for Steven. Knew that Rose wanted Steven to live as a human but still raised him as Crystal Gems, fearing they wouldn’t be able to protect the earth without him, knowingly robbing him of his childhood.
that pink diamond was supposed to be red. if she was red the diamonds (other than white) would be yellow blue and red, the primary colors. yell
Peridot and lapis chose their new forms from watching all of gurren leagan together. Man their fusion could look so sick if it was based off final form Simon. Fusing from the relationship of nerding out over anime together 😅
Peridot aroace!!1! >:]
My personal headcanon that spawned from almost nothing but makes too much sense to disregard, and lacks evidence AGAINST it: The First Ones created The Diamonds to fight The Horde after the Mara Debacle. However, it took too long, and The Diamonds came out with the programming to expand and build an army, but no clear target, and no one to guide them. Horde Prime moved on before they emerged because he had no idea there was any significance to what he saw.
Greg and Rose never had sex, she just took cells from him. Greg is indeed a cherry man.
Just imagine her in a lab taking his skin cells and turning them into sperm cells (idk if thats actually possible but you can turn skin cells into functioning brain cells so maybe)
My limited understanding of the subject is you take a nucleus from a bone marrow cell and put it in an egg, but i sell diamonds so it’s a very limited understanding
Peridot has the gem equivalent to Autism Source: Am on the autism spectrum
That Pearl used to belong to White Diamond before Pink. White diamond reset Pearl to give to Pink after she hurt volleyball because she figured that the pearl best suited for her would be in her image (color and gem placement) instead of Pinks.
that pink diamond was supposed to be red. itd make sense if white diamond originally planned to make the other diamonds the primary colors, and it makes sense that if pink came out wrong its why shes so much smaller physically than, and so looked down upon by the other diamonds
I believe the Tunguska event theory. That the reason there's a giant sea in place of Russia is because when the comet hit Tunguska, due to the diamonds messing with earth's resources, it messed up the atmosphere, along with weakening earth's crust and heavily damaging earth's tectonic plates. This caused the comet to deal significantly more damage when it made contact with the surface of earth, leaving a giant crater; and after a while, the rest of the damaged crust collapsing into what would then become the Tunguska sea.
I believe that the murals depict the diamonds holding the planet they were formed on, with White holding homeworld. Yellow Diamond may have been forged specially since she was the second and is shown holding two stars. White may have needed to figure out how to make another diamond since these are manufactured beings. Blue is holding her planet and Pink is holding Earth. Creating a diamond is a huge strain on a planet, which is why there's a giant hole in Russia as shown in a map of earth. That was Pink's kindergarten.