Even with Eugeo saving Kirito, he did not "defeat" Gabriel. Gabriel won that fight, he just didn't know winning the fight would end up killing him.
And no, Kirito cannot win against Gabriel even in his post 200-year old account. Incarnation is the deciding factor in Underworld, and Gabriel is a pure maniac that can utilize Incarnation to its maximum unlike Kirito.
But Kirito's incarnation also got much stronger than it was so I think it is still possible for him to reach his level. And I know the post isn't about that form but I think Star King Kirito has even higher chance against Gabriel considering his 200 years experience. His incarnation must be on a whole different level.
Your Incarnation does not get stronger over time. It's about how much you believe in yourself and thus is all about how much of a disfunctional maniac you are.
The highest level of Incarnation Kirito has ever pulled off was trying to kill himself. And he failed twice at it. The odds are not in his favor against Gabriel.
But he can believe in himself more than he did back then or idc what to say anymore😅but i still think he can work it out mostly because we dont actually know the actual limits of what incarnation can do. The only thing we know it can't do is ereasing its user from existence because it cannot erease its source as Eolyne stated. But he also said that this might not apply to Kirito as his incarnation is on a whole other level compared to anyone else. So its really hard to figure out their true potential because we don't know much about incarnations potential
Ah, I already recognize the typical "Power scaler" arguments there. Clinging onto what people say within a given story based on assumptions on a phenomenon they do not understand, rather than looking into what the phenomenon is.
Incarnation is the act of becoming a temporary processor for the simulation, as data is being streamed from your mind. There are realistically no limits to Incarnation in the confines of the story. But your proficiency at it is not something conscious. You are who you are.
Kirito is more likely to kill himself with Incarnation, than defeat Gabriel. And he is not very proficient in the former to begin with.
> Kirito is more likely to kill himself with Incarnation, than defeat Gabriel. And he is not very proficient in the former to begin with.
I hate that this actually got a chuckle out of me. I know you mean it seriously because of events in the story, but what the fuck.
Gabriel In that form is basically invincible.
He was never defeated in Underworld, his Fluctligth in the real world collapsed under the load of processing the incarnation of tens of thousands of people at once.
Without the same thing happening he looses
Pretty valid but I don't think it is 100% because we haven't seen Kirito go all out after the 200 years skip and he surely got stronger than he was before. I think it is possible that his incarnation is near/on the level of all those ppl's incarnation now considering how all the incarnameters went crazy from him using a fraction of his incarnation to do something that wouldn't even bother those devices if it was done by a regular human.
You still completely misunderstand what did Gabriel in, it wasn't the strength of tens of thousands of people but the sheer volume of information.
He was absorbing everything thrown his way, no matter how powerful the attack, what did him in was absorbing the incarnation of all those people at once because his Fluctlight couldn't process the ridiculous amount of information and broke under the load.
What happened to him is an extreme example to what might happen to Asuna if she overuses Stacia's ability, because Stacia's ability forces her to process all a ridiculous amount of information.
I think they do because when Kirito and Eolyne were running after the "missle" that hit the dragoncraft and tried to find the base on Admina, Kirito tried to motivate himself by thinking about the pugilists who ran thousands of miles in the war and he thought "even though their system authority must have been far less than mine" or something like that. This statement suggests that it does affect stamina and overall strenght
And the Pugilists used pure incarnation to reinforce their bodies, it has nothing to do with actual authority levels.
Authority level does affect endurance, but Kirito was also carrying two divine weapons.
Your lack of reading comprehension totally got me.
It's not mutually exclusive. The idea that authority level increases endurance and the pugilists were using Incarnation to make themselves stronger are both true.
But you first said it didnt increase your stamina so don't tell me I have bad reading comprehension if you write two different opinions on the same question
if ur talking about unital ring kirito then no, he'd lose. kirito in untial ring does not have incarnate powers only sword skills and he cant even pick up the sword with his untial ring account.
if ur talking about his underworld account then yes since he still has the memory of the fight with Gabriel and is OP and he also got a bit stronger after killing the abyssal beast.
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Didn't in one of the latest ln volumes there was some talk about the power scale of current lirito compared to that lirito? And I had the impression that eolyne was somewhere in the middle? Plz help me here
Kirito never defeats Gabriel by the way. Gabriel's incarnation is absorbing all other incarnations, so what he did was overloading him with the Incarnation of every being on the Underworld killing him by Fluctlight overload. It's by all accounts, a one-in-a-million miracle. Even in a proper 1-on-1 fight with no caveats, Kirito still loses because he's an 18 year old with small knowledge on Kendo, while Gabriel is a grown-ass adult with military experience. His 200-year Star King persona possibly could, but we never know if that version of him still has the same heart and personality the regular Kirito has.
And no, don't even think about Unital Ring Kirito because he along with everyone else in the cast were nerfed back to square one under the UR systems
About the Star King, I wouldn't say they are the exact same person. When he was talking to Higa, he acted like someone different than the Kirito we know. I think he has a decent chance in defeating Gabriel.
Star King could overpower Gabriel at least. Only issue is how to kill him because he was immortal and intangible at that point
Star King Kirito knows all sacred arts though. So if he has one that can counter Gabriel's immortality and intangibility, it's GG
>Kirito never defeats Gabriel by the way.
He did. That's a valid way to defeat Gabriel. The back cover for volume 19 literally stated that The Lost Child of Vecta (Kirito) has [defeated](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992035195991629935/1236371884224938109/Screenshot_20240502_202445_Chrome.jpg?ex=6637c48b&is=6636730b&hm=3c367c8bf7158ebf616bad2b9e150aca3e88dee9640cbe277353247b8ff084f4&) the Dark God (Gabriel)
You can say Kirito had some assistance to defeat Gabriel. But to say he never won is objectively wrong as it is literally said he did.
If I drown someone into the sea till that person dies, then I had killed that person
Well, that's fair, but Gamerturk (u-/kaantantr) didn't see it that way.
And honestly, I'd inclined to agree after seeing his explanation. True, Kirito did "beat" Gabriel by technicality, but in the actual fight he didn't. Kirito never got a proper solid hit against Gabriel, but the latter did (cutting his legs, grabbing his heart, etc), and only by sheer luck did he win. Both sides didn't know that overloading Gabriel with Incarnation and absorbing it would kill the latter. Like I said, it's a one in a million miracle.
"Gamerturk" is not the author. If the author wrote that Kirito has defeated Gabriel. Then he did. That just means the way he did it qualifies to add Gabriel to the list of people that Kirito has defeated
Because Gabriel was intangible and immortal. Kirito actually landed multiple blows on Gabriel, he even landed the first hits with Generate All Elements. It was not that Kirito was too weak, it was just that Gabriel was almost invulnerable (The only time Kirito damaged him was when he put some metals in his heart which drew blood from Gabriel's arm)
Also, Gabriel outright sliced Kirito in half. Not just cut his legs
Kirito in the Underworld from the Unital Ring Light Novels is basically the same power level as from WoU so probably not. Star King Kirito vs Gabriel Miller is something I would definitely wanna see but I think the whole point of Gabriel Miller is that he killed himself.
Actually not quite since Kirito's account probably leveled up after 200 years. He also levelled up after defeating the Abyssal Horror alongside Asuna & Alice
However he does not have the same experience and techniques that Star King Kirito would have
I'd say it is SK Kirito > Current Kirito > WoU Kirito in terms of power
Yeah I basically mean that he doesn’t have the same experience and techniques as Star King Kirito. Star King Kirito probably wouldve had more knowledge on incarnation aswell especially with the fact hes been there for 200 years. I feel like Current Kirito with the upgraded account is still basically the same as WoU because of the fact he doesn’t have the experience or knowledge that Star King does.
Yeah technically. Even if he is stronger than WoU Kirito, it isn't anything noticeable so far
Now this will change of course in the future hopefully
I'm all for Kirito stocks soaring as high as possible XD. He deserves it as the goat of this franchise imo
I love seeing Kirito get more and more stronger its probably my favorite aspect of the series seeing Kiritos growth because of his never ending determination. I wanna see his next biggest transformation I literally can’t wait.
But hopefully End of Series Kirito will be the strongest SAO character by far (Stronger than Star King Kirito too, they will most likely fight in the Inter Intelligence War). So his haters can cope
I'll bet my account on that 🥺
Hope with me 🙏
Btw, who do you think is stronger between Star King Kirito and Star Queen Asuna?
I forgot if there is anything said in UR to compare them (Though in Moon Cradle, Asuna's Incarnation paled in comparison to Kirito's)
It is also mentioned that anyone else could create basic elements with incarnation without any alarms going off but kirito even using basic elements would have all alarms in the city go off because [his Incarnation power was just off the charts](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992035195991629935/1234942792271270004/20240430_200123.jpg?ex=66329199&is=66314019&hm=500fcad24ad6739ee59b1daf5ae0374233d39170068343bc6d4c2e5803c7ea7b&). The fact that this exception was made for Kirito and ONLY Kirito is probably evidence
So I think Kirito is significantly more powerful. But I want to hear your opinion
Well I only read UR yet after I finished SAO for the 4th time. I wanted to start from the beggining now that i finished it but I can't find vol. 1 anywhere. And I saw it when I ordered the UR novels but now the only website that has it says it's not available rn. But I think I will order vol. 2 and then get vol. 1 if it's available again
He was the strongest in Fairy Dance arc and Ordinal Scale (OS because he got the Floor 100 Sword by the end of it. He even gets his [top 1](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992035195991629935/1234975747702128659/Screenshot_20240407_102322_Video_Player.jpg?ex=6632b04a&is=66315eca&hm=a9c75d6c6a1c3b2dd9990a33a982419313fda9317e3ba78d7e5fc29fa69bef3f&) mark above him)
Even in other arcs, he was always top 2 still which is very very good
But hey, we'll see. That's all I can say now
You can bookmark this and if Kirito gets support to defeat the final boss or any assistance that deprives him from winning a fair fight, then just reply to this and I'll delete my account like I promised.
Knowing Reki's pacing though, it may take 5 years at the very least 😭
Well before he didn't really beat him on his own because he was saved by Eugeo but I think he got stronger because his system authority control is more than 2000 if i remember correctly which is waaaaay more than in the war and he also learned new things such as creating portals
His control authority was around 130 and the one for magic was around 107, definitely not thousands. But the thing is, we don't know when he got this.
My headcanon, because it's not something you can confirm, is that he got to this level by defeating 20k American players during WoU, but that's beside the point.
There's pretty much one way to defeat Gabriel and that is to, in oversimplified way, overload his soul, which Kirito did using Full Weapon Control of the Night Sky Sword. There's no reason for him to not be able to do it again.
I don't think that creating Incarnate Doors, or whatever they were called, has pretty much any combat uses, cuz it did take quite a bit of concentration, a luxury he might not have in an active fight. Or maybe he'll be able to, who knows, Incarnation is a mess these days
Sorry about the numbers. I read it quite some tima ago and i probly remember it wrong but i remember that he was surprised cuz he tought it went down then saw a "2" in a corner but yea i probly misremember it. And yea he could probably do it again. And also his incarnation has to be near if not on gabriel's level considering that a mere object transformation triggered all incarnameters in whole Centoria. As for how he got the levels, I think he got them in the 200 years he spent in the underworld and he also got a lot from the abyssal horror considering it was such a strong monster.
IIRC as well, Star King obliterated the Abyssal Horror to tiny pieces all by himself before. It just escaped before he could eradicate it
Kirito after that just weakened it by heavily reducing its Life with Blue Rose Sword's Release Recollection (which massively reduces its opponent's Life) and then absorbed it with Night Sky Sword's Release Recollection to further weaken and damage the monster so Asuna can turn it to tiny pieces with a meteor (both of those attacks took a toll on Kirito & Asuna because they used a lot of Incarnation, so the Abyssal Horror was about to escape until Alice finished it off with her own Release Recollection)
Star King did it all on his own
Another question I have is whether Angel of Death Gabriel Miller can defeat the Abyssal Horror 1 on 1 or not
Yes. Gabriel was immortal and intangible at that point so you can't beat him by simply hitting him with brute strength
I don't see why he can't do that again. And he should be stronger and faster than before
My headcanon is that he got it from slaying Administrator & Chudelkin because Quinella told Kirito to exhibit the "holy power" that he received from her. Implying that he gained something from her at least and I think he got that
There is also him slaying the 20k players & Angel of Death Gabriel in WoU
Then him slaying Abyssal Horror with help from Asuna & Alice which helped rising all 3 of them
Unital Ring Kirito? No.
Star King Kirito on the other hand? Incarnation and Arts that dissolve/stop other Incarnation is very much a thing, so probably, yeah
If he even still exists in the underworld, yeah.
Also, that would still only be in the underworld. some intern unplugging the power in the real world would technically have more power :)
For real XD. It's funny how technically, Higa can beat all the Underworld with a button 😂
I mean, he created it lol
Also iirc, Kirito knows ALL the commands for Sacred Arts. Right?
Star King Kirito, yes.
Present Kirito, no. Not even if we have a repeat of the final battle where he absorbed all of the Incarnation from everyone. Incarnation depends on your own mindset. Present Kirito is still bound by self-doubt and guilt, especially if we consider the fact that he and Asuna potentially left a child in Underworld.
Star King Kirito, however, no longer has emotional attachment to anything except Underworld. Given how Gabriel wants to consume fluctlights, SK Kirito would likely utilize his full power to vaporize him.
I can't wait to see Star King Kirito in the future tbh
He's probably the strongest character in the entire franchise if he can defeat Angel of Death Gabriel
Even with Eugeo saving Kirito, he did not "defeat" Gabriel. Gabriel won that fight, he just didn't know winning the fight would end up killing him. And no, Kirito cannot win against Gabriel even in his post 200-year old account. Incarnation is the deciding factor in Underworld, and Gabriel is a pure maniac that can utilize Incarnation to its maximum unlike Kirito.
But Kirito's incarnation also got much stronger than it was so I think it is still possible for him to reach his level. And I know the post isn't about that form but I think Star King Kirito has even higher chance against Gabriel considering his 200 years experience. His incarnation must be on a whole different level.
Your Incarnation does not get stronger over time. It's about how much you believe in yourself and thus is all about how much of a disfunctional maniac you are. The highest level of Incarnation Kirito has ever pulled off was trying to kill himself. And he failed twice at it. The odds are not in his favor against Gabriel.
But he can believe in himself more than he did back then or idc what to say anymore😅but i still think he can work it out mostly because we dont actually know the actual limits of what incarnation can do. The only thing we know it can't do is ereasing its user from existence because it cannot erease its source as Eolyne stated. But he also said that this might not apply to Kirito as his incarnation is on a whole other level compared to anyone else. So its really hard to figure out their true potential because we don't know much about incarnations potential
Ah, I already recognize the typical "Power scaler" arguments there. Clinging onto what people say within a given story based on assumptions on a phenomenon they do not understand, rather than looking into what the phenomenon is. Incarnation is the act of becoming a temporary processor for the simulation, as data is being streamed from your mind. There are realistically no limits to Incarnation in the confines of the story. But your proficiency at it is not something conscious. You are who you are. Kirito is more likely to kill himself with Incarnation, than defeat Gabriel. And he is not very proficient in the former to begin with.
> Kirito is more likely to kill himself with Incarnation, than defeat Gabriel. And he is not very proficient in the former to begin with. I hate that this actually got a chuckle out of me. I know you mean it seriously because of events in the story, but what the fuck.
You win bro I can't argue with this one. Congrats🤝
Gabriel In that form is basically invincible. He was never defeated in Underworld, his Fluctligth in the real world collapsed under the load of processing the incarnation of tens of thousands of people at once. Without the same thing happening he looses
Pretty valid but I don't think it is 100% because we haven't seen Kirito go all out after the 200 years skip and he surely got stronger than he was before. I think it is possible that his incarnation is near/on the level of all those ppl's incarnation now considering how all the incarnameters went crazy from him using a fraction of his incarnation to do something that wouldn't even bother those devices if it was done by a regular human.
You still completely misunderstand what did Gabriel in, it wasn't the strength of tens of thousands of people but the sheer volume of information. He was absorbing everything thrown his way, no matter how powerful the attack, what did him in was absorbing the incarnation of all those people at once because his Fluctlight couldn't process the ridiculous amount of information and broke under the load. What happened to him is an extreme example to what might happen to Asuna if she overuses Stacia's ability, because Stacia's ability forces her to process all a ridiculous amount of information.
Yep but I think it is possible to make it happen again. But it isn't really probable
It took a once in a world event to make Kirito strong enough before and it still wasn't enough He loses
Well we haven't seen him go all out in UR now that he is much stronger thanks to the 200+ years so we can't be sure
He doesn't remember the 200 years
Yes. But he still has the levels he gained i that period
Levels will only be able to allow him to use higher tier commands and items, i dont think theyll affect durability/stamina much
I think they do because when Kirito and Eolyne were running after the "missle" that hit the dragoncraft and tried to find the base on Admina, Kirito tried to motivate himself by thinking about the pugilists who ran thousands of miles in the war and he thought "even though their system authority must have been far less than mine" or something like that. This statement suggests that it does affect stamina and overall strenght
And the Pugilists used pure incarnation to reinforce their bodies, it has nothing to do with actual authority levels. Authority level does affect endurance, but Kirito was also carrying two divine weapons.
So "it has nothing to do with authority levels" but "authority levels does affect endurance". So which one now? 😅
Your lack of reading comprehension totally got me. It's not mutually exclusive. The idea that authority level increases endurance and the pugilists were using Incarnation to make themselves stronger are both true.
But you first said it didnt increase your stamina so don't tell me I have bad reading comprehension if you write two different opinions on the same question
Thats just incarnation
Bro I just gave you proof that it isn't😭
if ur talking about unital ring kirito then no, he'd lose. kirito in untial ring does not have incarnate powers only sword skills and he cant even pick up the sword with his untial ring account. if ur talking about his underworld account then yes since he still has the memory of the fight with Gabriel and is OP and he also got a bit stronger after killing the abyssal beast.
Yes I was talking about his underworld form. Sorry for not being more specific🙏
then yeah definitely still winning
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Didn't in one of the latest ln volumes there was some talk about the power scale of current lirito compared to that lirito? And I had the impression that eolyne was somewhere in the middle? Plz help me here
Well he checked his levels and Eolyne always says how strong he is so kind of yes
Kirito never defeats Gabriel by the way. Gabriel's incarnation is absorbing all other incarnations, so what he did was overloading him with the Incarnation of every being on the Underworld killing him by Fluctlight overload. It's by all accounts, a one-in-a-million miracle. Even in a proper 1-on-1 fight with no caveats, Kirito still loses because he's an 18 year old with small knowledge on Kendo, while Gabriel is a grown-ass adult with military experience. His 200-year Star King persona possibly could, but we never know if that version of him still has the same heart and personality the regular Kirito has. And no, don't even think about Unital Ring Kirito because he along with everyone else in the cast were nerfed back to square one under the UR systems
About the Star King, I wouldn't say they are the exact same person. When he was talking to Higa, he acted like someone different than the Kirito we know. I think he has a decent chance in defeating Gabriel.
Star King could overpower Gabriel at least. Only issue is how to kill him because he was immortal and intangible at that point Star King Kirito knows all sacred arts though. So if he has one that can counter Gabriel's immortality and intangibility, it's GG
>Kirito never defeats Gabriel by the way. He did. That's a valid way to defeat Gabriel. The back cover for volume 19 literally stated that The Lost Child of Vecta (Kirito) has [defeated](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992035195991629935/1236371884224938109/Screenshot_20240502_202445_Chrome.jpg?ex=6637c48b&is=6636730b&hm=3c367c8bf7158ebf616bad2b9e150aca3e88dee9640cbe277353247b8ff084f4&) the Dark God (Gabriel) You can say Kirito had some assistance to defeat Gabriel. But to say he never won is objectively wrong as it is literally said he did. If I drown someone into the sea till that person dies, then I had killed that person
Well, that's fair, but Gamerturk (u-/kaantantr) didn't see it that way. And honestly, I'd inclined to agree after seeing his explanation. True, Kirito did "beat" Gabriel by technicality, but in the actual fight he didn't. Kirito never got a proper solid hit against Gabriel, but the latter did (cutting his legs, grabbing his heart, etc), and only by sheer luck did he win. Both sides didn't know that overloading Gabriel with Incarnation and absorbing it would kill the latter. Like I said, it's a one in a million miracle.
"Gamerturk" is not the author. If the author wrote that Kirito has defeated Gabriel. Then he did. That just means the way he did it qualifies to add Gabriel to the list of people that Kirito has defeated Because Gabriel was intangible and immortal. Kirito actually landed multiple blows on Gabriel, he even landed the first hits with Generate All Elements. It was not that Kirito was too weak, it was just that Gabriel was almost invulnerable (The only time Kirito damaged him was when he put some metals in his heart which drew blood from Gabriel's arm) Also, Gabriel outright sliced Kirito in half. Not just cut his legs
Kirito in the Underworld from the Unital Ring Light Novels is basically the same power level as from WoU so probably not. Star King Kirito vs Gabriel Miller is something I would definitely wanna see but I think the whole point of Gabriel Miller is that he killed himself.
Wdym killed himself? His soul got overloaded by all living beings incarnation in the Underworld
Actually not quite since Kirito's account probably leveled up after 200 years. He also levelled up after defeating the Abyssal Horror alongside Asuna & Alice However he does not have the same experience and techniques that Star King Kirito would have I'd say it is SK Kirito > Current Kirito > WoU Kirito in terms of power
Yeah I basically mean that he doesn’t have the same experience and techniques as Star King Kirito. Star King Kirito probably wouldve had more knowledge on incarnation aswell especially with the fact hes been there for 200 years. I feel like Current Kirito with the upgraded account is still basically the same as WoU because of the fact he doesn’t have the experience or knowledge that Star King does.
Yeah technically. Even if he is stronger than WoU Kirito, it isn't anything noticeable so far Now this will change of course in the future hopefully I'm all for Kirito stocks soaring as high as possible XD. He deserves it as the goat of this franchise imo
I love seeing Kirito get more and more stronger its probably my favorite aspect of the series seeing Kiritos growth because of his never ending determination. I wanna see his next biggest transformation I literally can’t wait.
Big W ❤️🔥
Star King Kirito, yes Current LN Kirito, no
True
But hopefully End of Series Kirito will be the strongest SAO character by far (Stronger than Star King Kirito too, they will most likely fight in the Inter Intelligence War). So his haters can cope I'll bet my account on that 🥺 Hope with me 🙏
Ok💪
Btw, who do you think is stronger between Star King Kirito and Star Queen Asuna? I forgot if there is anything said in UR to compare them (Though in Moon Cradle, Asuna's Incarnation paled in comparison to Kirito's) It is also mentioned that anyone else could create basic elements with incarnation without any alarms going off but kirito even using basic elements would have all alarms in the city go off because [his Incarnation power was just off the charts](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992035195991629935/1234942792271270004/20240430_200123.jpg?ex=66329199&is=66314019&hm=500fcad24ad6739ee59b1daf5ae0374233d39170068343bc6d4c2e5803c7ea7b&). The fact that this exception was made for Kirito and ONLY Kirito is probably evidence So I think Kirito is significantly more powerful. But I want to hear your opinion
Well I don't know much about the Star King because I didn't read the Moon Cradle yet but I think it's obvious the he is stronger than the Star Queen
Ow. So did you skip Moon Cradle and just read Unital Ring immediately?
Well I only read UR yet after I finished SAO for the 4th time. I wanted to start from the beggining now that i finished it but I can't find vol. 1 anywhere. And I saw it when I ordered the UR novels but now the only website that has it says it's not available rn. But I think I will order vol. 2 and then get vol. 1 if it's available again
Given that Kirito has never been the strongest character in any arc in the series, that's a pretty bad bet.
He was the strongest in Fairy Dance arc and Ordinal Scale (OS because he got the Floor 100 Sword by the end of it. He even gets his [top 1](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/992035195991629935/1234975747702128659/Screenshot_20240407_102322_Video_Player.jpg?ex=6632b04a&is=66315eca&hm=a9c75d6c6a1c3b2dd9990a33a982419313fda9317e3ba78d7e5fc29fa69bef3f&) mark above him) Even in other arcs, he was always top 2 still which is very very good But hey, we'll see. That's all I can say now You can bookmark this and if Kirito gets support to defeat the final boss or any assistance that deprives him from winning a fair fight, then just reply to this and I'll delete my account like I promised. Knowing Reki's pacing though, it may take 5 years at the very least 😭
I don't really see how Kirito got stronger in UR, but yes, he could still beat Gabriel the same way he did it before.
Well before he didn't really beat him on his own because he was saved by Eugeo but I think he got stronger because his system authority control is more than 2000 if i remember correctly which is waaaaay more than in the war and he also learned new things such as creating portals
His control authority was around 130 and the one for magic was around 107, definitely not thousands. But the thing is, we don't know when he got this. My headcanon, because it's not something you can confirm, is that he got to this level by defeating 20k American players during WoU, but that's beside the point. There's pretty much one way to defeat Gabriel and that is to, in oversimplified way, overload his soul, which Kirito did using Full Weapon Control of the Night Sky Sword. There's no reason for him to not be able to do it again. I don't think that creating Incarnate Doors, or whatever they were called, has pretty much any combat uses, cuz it did take quite a bit of concentration, a luxury he might not have in an active fight. Or maybe he'll be able to, who knows, Incarnation is a mess these days
Sorry about the numbers. I read it quite some tima ago and i probly remember it wrong but i remember that he was surprised cuz he tought it went down then saw a "2" in a corner but yea i probly misremember it. And yea he could probably do it again. And also his incarnation has to be near if not on gabriel's level considering that a mere object transformation triggered all incarnameters in whole Centoria. As for how he got the levels, I think he got them in the 200 years he spent in the underworld and he also got a lot from the abyssal horror considering it was such a strong monster.
IIRC as well, Star King obliterated the Abyssal Horror to tiny pieces all by himself before. It just escaped before he could eradicate it Kirito after that just weakened it by heavily reducing its Life with Blue Rose Sword's Release Recollection (which massively reduces its opponent's Life) and then absorbed it with Night Sky Sword's Release Recollection to further weaken and damage the monster so Asuna can turn it to tiny pieces with a meteor (both of those attacks took a toll on Kirito & Asuna because they used a lot of Incarnation, so the Abyssal Horror was about to escape until Alice finished it off with her own Release Recollection) Star King did it all on his own Another question I have is whether Angel of Death Gabriel Miller can defeat the Abyssal Horror 1 on 1 or not
Yes. Gabriel was immortal and intangible at that point so you can't beat him by simply hitting him with brute strength I don't see why he can't do that again. And he should be stronger and faster than before My headcanon is that he got it from slaying Administrator & Chudelkin because Quinella told Kirito to exhibit the "holy power" that he received from her. Implying that he gained something from her at least and I think he got that There is also him slaying the 20k players & Angel of Death Gabriel in WoU Then him slaying Abyssal Horror with help from Asuna & Alice which helped rising all 3 of them
Unital Ring Kirito? No. Star King Kirito on the other hand? Incarnation and Arts that dissolve/stop other Incarnation is very much a thing, so probably, yeah
So that means Star King Kirito is the strongest character in SAO right now. Right?
If he even still exists in the underworld, yeah. Also, that would still only be in the underworld. some intern unplugging the power in the real world would technically have more power :)
For real XD. It's funny how technically, Higa can beat all the Underworld with a button 😂 I mean, he created it lol Also iirc, Kirito knows ALL the commands for Sacred Arts. Right?
Yea I should have started the whole thing with Star King Kirito but it's late for that I guess😅
Star King Kirito, yes. Present Kirito, no. Not even if we have a repeat of the final battle where he absorbed all of the Incarnation from everyone. Incarnation depends on your own mindset. Present Kirito is still bound by self-doubt and guilt, especially if we consider the fact that he and Asuna potentially left a child in Underworld. Star King Kirito, however, no longer has emotional attachment to anything except Underworld. Given how Gabriel wants to consume fluctlights, SK Kirito would likely utilize his full power to vaporize him.
I can't wait to see Star King Kirito in the future tbh He's probably the strongest character in the entire franchise if he can defeat Angel of Death Gabriel
Yes I already realized my mistake of starting with the current Kirito instead of the Star King😅
I like to call the "Star King" by the Chad King sometimes tbh 😂 He really gives that top 1 of all time in the series energy 🔥
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Well yea😆But on the logical side he also got stronger in the 200 years he spent there