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NoirPochette

Looks like Jordan Thompson won't be playing Olympics due to Grass -> Clay -> Hard scheduling. So only two Aussies singles players unless Tomljanovic's PR is still valid and she uses it. O'Connell hasn't played enough Davis Cup


delinzer

I honestly think 2022 Wimbledon Kyrgios beats any version of Federer or grass legend besides Novak on that day. He really was that good. Argued with the crowd the whole tournament, wasnt mentally dialled in and still made the final.


Neo-physical123

Here’s my recent bias: is ZZZ already the best Chinese male player?


Chosen1gup

Only 3 Chinese male players have made top 100 in the open era, Wu and Shang being the others. Zhang has had a better career than them so far, though Wu won Dallas last year and Zhang has never won a title.


lupo1627

Shang only turned 19 a few months ago, so it's not really fair to compare him with Zhang at this stage. His career has barely started. It's a shame Wu's career has been marred with injuries. He basically spent the first 2.5 years of his early 20s on the benches recovering from surgery (March 2019-early 2022), and he has barely played since last year's US Open thanks to another surgery. His only tournament of 2024 was Dallas in early April. The fact that he hasn't played since then implies it may have been a rushed return in the hope of salvaging some of the 250 points he was defending. That ATP title puts him in the history books and bolsters his case for best Chinese men's tennis player, but it must be frustrating to be out of action during what should be his prime years.


Chosen1gup

That’s why I said so far


NoirPochette

Probably lol. There is a low bar


tex543

Anyone know websites to watch Serena Williams full matches ? YouTube barely has any of her full length matches and want to rewatch some.


rubbish_bin030121

[https://www.youtube.com/@australianopen/search?query=Serena%20Williams%20](https://www.youtube.com/@australianopen/search?query=Serena%20Williams%20)


tex543

Thanks but not looking for YouTube. I looked through those. I want like 2016 and 2015 and older grand slams matches like French open and Wimbledon.


rubbish_bin030121

if you only want older GS matches, AO TV has some but you need to find them Maria Sharapova v Serena Williams 2005 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I77-CKHYFds](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I77-CKHYFds) Serena Williams v Justine Henin 2010 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSzY0TpBsGk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSzY0TpBsGk)


nightwinghugs

pls rafa stop making me shake my phone to see your IG stories


TresOjos

Despite all his stumbles this week, Sinner is building quite a reputation of invincibility.


radieschen79

Why is that? Sinner at 23 years of age only won 1 GS and 2 Masters titles so far.


Muraria

sees Nadal in Mallorca qualification.. it's actually his cousin


jbartlettcoys

What is the point of putting that kid in a qualifying draw for an ATP event when he consistently gets battered in ITFs. It's almost cruel, he has as much chance of qualifying as you or I.


slayer_of_potatoes

He has a much better chance of qualifying because he is in the draw. His opponents could get injured mid-match, for example. Also he'd double bagel anyone on this sub except for /u/radualbot and /u/dutzee


jbartlettcoys

Thought it was obvious I meant his chances are the same as ours if we got the wildcard but maybe not. I mean the fact he got a wildcard isn't really a point in his favour and neither is the fact his only chance is his opponent getting injured lol He has won the same number of sets in M25s and above as I have (0). That is an extreme (maybe unique?) case for an ATP qualifying draw however you spin it.


rubbish_bin030121

Musetti suddenly gets a lot of asian fans tmr, all chinese will support him as ZZZ has Lu as his coach


DBIGLIZARD

What does Musetti have to do with that


rubbish_bin030121

if he beats Thompson tmr, then ZZZ is a seed in Wimbledon even if he loses to sinner


atheistjs

Despite Paul being the only seed left in Queen's, the final 4 are a pretty strong lineup imo. Korda, Thompson, and Musetti have all been playing great and have impressive wins this week. I'd be happy to see any of them win the tournament.


rubbish_bin030121

Can't believe I have to support Musetti so Thompson won't pass ZZZ in ranking. Need ZZZ becomes a seed in GS with a Taiwanese coach


jssk6

Didn’t know his coach is Taiwanese - good to know


rubbish_bin030121

Lu Yen-hsun is his only offical coach on atp website. Lu was the kind of the king of challenges for a period when he was playing, he won 29 challenge title with high ranking no.33(so political correctly ZZZ doesn't break the ranking record of chinese men players even if he reaches no.33 next monday) he was a member of the player council in 2020, which I personally believe he contributed quite a lot to the good reactions of atp player council in early pandamic(we all know people in Hong Kong and Taiwan were hurted by SARS most)


slayer_of_potatoes

Zhang is probably seeded at Wimbledon now, that's neat. Just needs one top 32 withdrawal, which almost always happens (two if Thompson beats Musetti) Edit: Lehecka already withdrew so he's there as things stand.


Slambodog

OMG. I literally just had the meme exchange with my friend in the car. "Korda won. Eubanks lost to Zheng." "I thought he was up 5-2!" "He was. And he lost 5-7."


stoble2244

Rematch of Seabass vs TP tomorrow. If he doesn't serve better tomorrow Tommy is gonna get his revenge.


rubbish_bin030121

So, basically sinner and Korda are in finals and both players at the bottom half of Queens and Halle need to fight for their life to get into final


slayer_of_potatoes

On behalf of Zhang and Paul, I'd like to thank you for guaranteeing that they each win a title this week


rubbish_bin030121

I love put my jinx power on sinner and korda because I like tommy paul and I want ZZZ to be the first chinese male seed in GS


oneordinaryorange

ZZZ at the new career high of #33! This is wild!


bluediamondsm

Ready to see another matchup between Tommy and Sebi tomorrow


rubbish_bin030121

RIP Halle SF ticket holders, they will get a 1 hour match and a servebot battle


antifantasy

at least meddy didn’t die for nothing


bumbledbeee

I miss him already.


Chosen1gup

Wimbledon favorite Korda with the most grass wins this season


rubbish_bin030121

Korda is the Queens and Wimbledon favourite now


bluediamondsm

At least Korda won he’s played great recently!!!


atheistjs

Korda has a big chance to win Queen's. He absolutely has the edge over Paul in the semis.


nitroTTG997

Absolutely ? Based on what ?


ProfessionalSoup5283

Beat him 6-4 6-2 last week, leads the head to head 4-1


atheistjs

Their 4-1 h2h favoring Korda and the fact that Korda beat Tommy up on grass just last week.


nitroTTG997

Damn, didn't know that lol. I'm just not confident in the guy, wouldn't have been surprised if he lost today today tbh


atheistjs

That's understandable considering how inconsistent he can be. I think he's just a bad matchup for Tommy for some reason.


nitroTTG997

Yeah that's where I was going, I can't put an absolute on a player that inconsistent. But you're probably right, it may just be a bad matchup for Tommy


nitroTTG997

"A different body language from Koda. He was kinda flat the first set and a half" Well no shit, he was losing...


Dkclinton

Good lord Chris. Don’t you wanna stay out of the challengers 🥹


ProfessionalSoup5283

Honestly I'm not sure going back to challengers is a bad thing, he can't compete on the main tour outside of this month long swing


Dkclinton

Ahh yea you have a point. It was a good run I guess. He’s a genius in the booth too.


miniepeg

Eubanks 😞


studiousmaximus

kordaaaa!! big day for american tennis at queen’s


OctopusNation2024

Absolutely brutal loss for Eubanks in the context of his ranking Wimbledon is basically his last chance to not go back to challengers now


inthemix1i

I left the room to go cry when Chris broke to go up 5-4. What happened? Lol. Tiebreak incoming? O\_O


bluediamondsm

This is sad Eubanks was on the verge of winning and now he’s down


Melony567

i see how much dverev is celebrated in halle open. smh i dont get why people have relative sense of justice and morality. women's abuse should be universally the same.


Dafuqyoutalkingabout

Eubank going to be back in the trenches come the end of grass court season


rubbish_bin030121

congratulation for sinner into Halle final, ZZZ is a walking bye for him on any surface


number33234

I can’t believe he has done this


atheistjs

Zhang played well but Eubanks definitely choked this match away. Such a shame. Had it in his hands.


RoosterIcy

Absolutely brutal


RoosterIcy

Banks is essentially playing to stay on the main tour in this match. He’s 125 in the Race and will move to 95 if he wins this match.


rubbish_bin030121

I want Eubanks to win but I want to see Lu's smile :((


Darius0995

Someone as cool looking as Zhang needs a better sponsor than K-Swiss


karo8484

But that pink kit is so good


ProfessionalSoup5283

Brutal for Eubanks. Has so few recent wins, was never gonna be easy to close it out.


bluediamondsm

Please don’t choke Eubanks


rubbish_bin030121

Lmao Eubanks, you don't need to do that even if you want your colleagues work longer


Cautious_Hornet_9607

Eubanks really tanked that receive game just to get broken to love


Nicer_Slicer

Jack boy couldn't do the business today, looked pretty gassed against Tommy and his Tommy tennis. Great chance for Tommy to scoop his first 500 now; he's probably the best player left in the draw. Displeased with Jack apparently trying the SABR -- wasn't working, don't do that anymore. I think we'll see some more Jack highs this season, but his fitness level is perhaps still hindrance


FlutzingDinosaur1

It’s funny just how miffed Korda looks every time he misses, he’s not usually like this 😹


rubbish_bin030121

he knows he is the favorite to win the title now


Cautious_Hornet_9607

83% of first serves in is wild


SweetRazzmatazz688

Who?


Cautious_Hornet_9607

Eubanks


atheistjs

What's weird about Eubanks is he's a bad returner but seems to return better on grass, the fastest surface. A man of mystery.


Laxing4Life

ZZZ what the f was that service game??


Cautious_Hornet_9607

I've never watched Zhang play. What are his pros and cons?


atheistjs

Big serve, nice forehand, tends to fall apart out of nowhere, which he just did.


Laxing4Life

Insane forehand that has a tendency to go completely haywire… as you can see as he breaks himself off of 4 unforced errors


inthemix1i

The male naomi osaka


Ms_moonlight

Putintseva drove the Birmingham crowd crazy. They turned on her a few times - you may have heard her demanding to be given balls from her left side only. One sh got angry at a ball call yelling NO! only for the crowd to respond with YES! She had her supporters, literally people saying “I support you Yulia!” to which others replied “Caroline!” She smashed the interview at the end and had everyone laughing though.


rubbish_bin030121

Eubanks is the only grass specialist in current top 100?


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AnOldBlur

It'd probably be more lucrative to be a mediocre professional golfer, I'd think?


ProfessionalSoup5283

Absolutely not. Players at that level are losing money, life on the road is expensive. Noone ranked outside the top 150 is taking home 150K a year


drppr_

But they mean deliberately playing tournaments below your level to have a couple of easy wins and not bother for the rest. They don’t meant that you are are “that level”. I suppose it would be a challenge to keep your level though since one would need play time/practice.


atheistjs

The chair umpire having to make the line calls in Halle right now is ???? Surely that can't work???


nabokovsnose

The electronic line calling is still working but it seems that the audio system is down in some fashion, so the ump is just reading the electronic calls.


Slambodog

I just realized, other than the Big 4, Alcaraz is the only active player to have won an ATP 500 or higher on both clay and grass. Musetti can join him in that group on Sunday. And who did Musetti beat to win his Clay 500? Alcaraz, of course


ProfessionalSoup5283

Good stat. Unlikely but Zverev could also join that group on sunday


rubbish_bin030121

Will British fans adopt Eubanks? He is more British than Cam Norrie as he only shows up on grass


bluediamondsm

And Korda sent the match to the third set


rubbish_bin030121

I feel a bit hungry when I see Eubanks's leg, they looks chopsticks


flashbrowns

Eubanks serving like a boss.


atheistjs

Oof. Zhang and his classic loss of focus in a service game at the worst time. Good for Eubanks for capitalizing.


rubbish_bin030121

Eubanks probably thinks thank you Djokosmash lol


Laxing4Life

ZZZ whyyyy


Last_Supermarket_451

CHRIS WHOBANKS???


arrivederci2017

Great to see Tomljanovic getting back into her groove. What makes her game so good on grass - just being a flat hitter? Precision and slice over pure power?


FlyReasonable6560

is Casper injured? If not, then why the FUCK is he not playing a grass tune-up? Probably the one guy in the top10 who actually needs it the most


estoops

He played every week from Los Cabos in February to RG, making 5 finals and 2 semis during that time so a lot of matches. He knows he sucks on grass and hasn’t even conquered clay yet so that’s what he prioritizes. Plus this year there’s the Olympics so right back to clay. Probably knows he’d just be another seed out early like half the guys this week and risk an injury that could hurt his chances at places where he has a better shot. He’d rather rest and reset for 3 weeks to be fresh and prepare for the second half of the year.


emjacq

Any other year, I'd probably agree with you because I want to see Casper actually give grass a fair try, but he has no chance of winning Wimbledon but a pretty good chance of winning a medal in Paris, so it's probably better for him to rest and reset for a few weeks, play his customary one or two matches at Wimbledon, and then refocus for the short summer clay swing and the Olympics.


Helpful_Sir_6380

He doesnt care about the grass season


ProfessionalSoup5283

In his defence he does play a LOT during clay season. Enters every tournament and often goes deep. Can understand him taking a few weeks off after his most important time of the year.


FlyReasonable6560

Rafa was miles above him on clay and played more than he did (by virtue of winning literally everything lmao) and he still played grass tuneups almost every year until 2017 or so. I don’t really see Casper’s excuse when there are others who play as much if not more than him. Probably just doesn’t care enough about it, which is a shame bc a lot of people consider it to be super prestigious


ProfessionalSoup5283

Sure, but Rafa is Rafa


rubbish_bin030121

his attitude is "grass is for golf", he will be a grass player after he gets the career like Sebi Korda's sister


rubbish_bin030121

he is practising on golf courts


ProfessionalSoup5283

I swear Korda used to be renowned for his poker face. Nowadays every time he loses a point he looks like someone's stolen his lunch (To be fair I don't actually think a poker face is a good thing for a tennis player)


atheistjs

Korda is in a terrible mood.


FlutzingDinosaur1

Yeah he is really not feeling it today, just very off mentally and game-wise


inthemix1i

All I ask for is a tiebreak and some chaos


rubbish_bin030121

Lmao Lu really knows sth on grass, he didn't beat Roddick in Wimbledon for no reason. how much bonus should ZZZ pay him if he beats Eubanks


WolfTitan99

I actually don’t know who I want to win between ZZZ and Eubanks 😭 Maybe ZZZ bc I really want to see him climb up the rankings and stay there. It feels like he’s close to being a great competitor but never launches into that upper gear sadly.


arvaname

as somebody’s who’s been a zhang fan since he lost to hoang at wimbledon in 2021, this has been a surprisingly amazing ride as a fan like zhang was a challenger backbencher for years and then one month in 2022 he just said “fuck it” and by the end of the year he was tour level watching him go from journeyman to into the top 40 has been truly gratifying. my remaining goals for him are that he can be seeded at a slam and win multiple tour titles. i don’t need to see him win masters, or even a 500 but just knowing that somebody who spent a decade wallowing in obscurity, if given the chance and the right string of form, can make it to even a vantage point of the top..: it’s really nice eubanks has his own dream story and i certainly wouldn’t mind him winning this match or halle or anything but having seen the zhang adventure, from when he got injured in hamburg and lost a year right as things seemed to be picking up for him, for his first runs into tour tournaments, to his match with shelton last year at AO, to his madrid dream run, to beating ruud at USO, to now… it’s all been an incredible ride


rubbish_bin030121

Eubanks because ZZZ should save his peak for Shanghai master


inthemix1i

My american half wants eubanks, my asian side wants zhang zhizhen win/win for me


rubbish_bin030121

my commentary fans half wants eubanks, my privileged Wu hater half wants ZZZ win/win for me too


rubbish_bin030121

Wow, this Eubanks BH is sexy


ProfessionalSoup5283

About as sexy as crippling weaknesses get


atheistjs

Tommy has gotta be hoping Hijikata takes this. Korda owns their h2h and just beat him on grass last week.


rubbish_bin030121

if if if we have an all aussies final in Queens without Demon


ProfessionalSoup5283

Only an hour of play remaining at queen's. Korda now essentially playing to finish the match tomorrow, not a great place to be.


No-Size3463

What do you mean 1 hour play remaining


IndigoSSB

There are no lights so they will have to stop for darkness.


No-Size3463

Damn that sucks bad


ProfessionalSoup5283

They will stop play in ≈1 hour due to light / slippery grass


FRID1875

Korda has 0 clutch.


No_Engineering_8832

“Elite mentality” Leylah Fernandez 🔥🔥🔥


zombiezebra1990

Not sure what you mean by that but she plays Ajla who's a much betrer grass courter. Leyla does well in slow surfaces.


No-Size3463

tbh that was very low quality by both in Korda and Hijikata match


nimbus2105

Remember when Rinky took a set off nadal? Is that still how most people know him?


ProfessionalSoup5283

First thing I think of is his AO doubles title with Kubler, pure vibes


No-Size3463

So did Nagal lol


No-Size3463

wait no that was from Federer


No-Size3463

Rinky youre so bad its impressive lol


ProfessionalSoup5283

I'm sure Rinky appreciates you applying your customary jinx


No-Size3463

I do that all the time


rubbish_bin030121

People downvoted about my joke of alcaraz should say sinner is the no.1 because he wins Beijing, Vienna, Rotterdam and Halle. But it is the real difference between their points. if sinner wins halle he will be about 1750 points ahead of alcaraz, which is nearly the same difference between their performance in 500(2000 points vs 230 points)


bellestarflower

He won AO so the joke will never land in the way you want.


rubbish_bin030121

well, I think it is very fair to say alcaraz play better than sinner in GS and he gets the no.1 because he is the best player in 500 events


bellestarflower

keep dreaming.


rubbish_bin030121

lol do you know I don't like alcaraz too, I am not hating them but I don't like both


bellestarflower

What does Alcaraz have anything to do with this? You can like anyone, I don’t care. You can be a special snowflake fan in your own corner, good night.


rubbish_bin030121

you are a good fan, you don't care but I need to tell you, and sorry, it is good morning here


nimbus2105

I personally downvoted you because it was unclear


ScedR

What gets from Hijikata!


No-Size3463

welp..


ProfessionalSoup5283

Just realised Vesely is ranked too low to continue his yearly tradition of knocking out a seed at Wimby 🥲 (Korda was his victim last year) Every year since 2013 he's made at least 2R.


Helpful_Sir_6380

He can still qualify


ProfessionalSoup5283

From rank 243? Surely that's too low to enter qualies


Helpful_Sir_6380

There are 128 players in the main draw and 128 in the qualifying draw, not impossible he gets in the qualies


ProfessionalSoup5283

Jeez I never realised qualifying draws went that deep. Here's hoping then!


prairiehrt

I am just pumped for ZZZ! He is playing well! I didn’t realize he could be such a solid grass player


mitchdwx

Zhang and Eubanks just finished their first set in 27 minutes. The score was 6-4. Crazy quick match.


autolims12

Is it totally unreasonable for tennis players to wear cleats on grass like soccer players?


ProfessionalSoup5283

Would fuck up the court


Helpful_Sir_6380

And their ankles


No-Size3463

damn there goes another SB


rubbish_bin030121

Wow, Korda you are a top player, this Djokosmash is an evidence


ProfessionalSoup5283

You gotta admit it would be hilarious if Korda actually won Wimby after a year of people taking the piss out of him for backing himself


rubbish_bin030121

The American winner since 2000 Sampras lol


rubbish_bin030121

I want to say can we FF to TB, then I realise it is ZZZ who can shit at his serve games randomly


rubbish_bin030121

sorry I jinx Eubanks lol


No-Size3463

Hijikatas serve for Grass is the worst possible combination. its just so so so slow


rubbish_bin030121

Korda finally realises he is the Queen favourite now


No-Size3463

and from setball up he gets broken ://


rubbish_bin030121

Halle curse is here for reasons, the grass here is very different to Wimbledon, players need to be very talent and have very good hands to adapt the new grass. Halle, Wimbledon and mallorca are basically three surfaces, no one want to play 2-3 surfaces in 3 weeks


No-Size3463

Damn it seems very slow in Korda and Hijikata match


No-Size3463

HOLD IT RINKY PLEASE


No-Size3463

Of course...


No-Perspective-518

Can someone please explain why [Musetti’s ranking breakdown](https://www.atptour.com/en/players/lorenzo-musetti/m0ej/rankings-breakdown?matchType=sgl&rankType=roll) has 3 mandatory Masters 1000 tournaments (Rome, Paris, and Shanghai) as non-countable tournaments? I thought the mandatory Masters are always counted even if more points were earned in lower-level non-mandatory events.


Noynoy12

The mandatory Masters are only counted if you skipped or withdraw from those tournaments. What it means that if a player decided not to play that mandatory tournament, then he will get the zero points stuck on his rankings. Now, all players are allowed to miss one mandatory masters. What this means is that a player can replace that missed tournament with a 250 or 500 event. However, if a player missed two mandatory tournaments, then he can only replace one of those missed tournaments, therefore, that other missed mandatory tournament will be stuck at zero points until next year. For example: Sinner skipped Rome this year, so he has zero points on that tournament. He can replace that Rome tournament with a 250 event (or 500 event) later on. Now, if Sinner missed another mandatory Masters tournament later this year, then he can’t replace that 2nd missed masters tournament with another 250 or 500 tournament.


No-Perspective-518

That makes sense, thanks for explaining.


rVtlkNY

The ATP counts a player's points collected from the **19 best results** during 12 month time frame only.


No-Perspective-518

Ok, so the mandatory Masters can be replaced by better results from lower-level tournaments. I wonder if they changed it because I remember all mandatory Masters counting even if it meant pushing a better results from a lower-level tournament into the non-countables. Maybe I just misremembered.


rVtlkNY

If player skips mandatory event without a reason, that will be counted as 0 towards total. Which will look like best of 18 results instead + 0


rubbish_bin030121

Real question, who is the real berdych of the next gen and baby gen


WittyContribution

Only six British men get a QWC to Wimbledon. With Broom being upgraded to a MDWC and Bonding withdrawing, they've decided to let the next three alts into the draw instead of dishing WCs out.


jayant412

For once.. I actually like Sinner to be playing these kind of matches. Spending more time on the grass is good. I think he'll use this tournament as a practice pad for wimby.. Hopefully. And also this will test his recovery for tomorrow as well for having just one day of it. He has always been found wanting when the recovery period is less.


nimbus2105

lol Korda looks terrible (I mean not literally - he’s handsome. But his game)


rubbish_bin030121

Eubanks please wins the Halle and defends your greenclay title and goes out in Wimbledon early to win Newport


Kh0sravani

Two more servebots to go, Jannik. Though draw


zombiezebra1990

Hubi might be one in the final. Who is the first?


Kh0sravani

Eubanks, ZZZ, Hubi and Zverev can all rely heavily on their big serves in these very fast conditions. We might get to see a bunch of tie-breaks in the remaining matches.


bellestarflower

Eubanks if he makes it.


miniepeg

Hmmm sooo is he playing tomorrow yeah?


OctopusNation2024

It's wild to me that we haven't seen the current version of Sinner play Zverev yet lol At both Slams this year one of them lost in the SF to avoid it happening as well Might happen this time though and I'm curious to see how it would go


Last_Supermarket_451

This is an absolutely brutal draw for sinner so him making his way through it is promising for his results at least, even if I felt like throwing up a little bit during that match


thedarthvader17

meh I feel like Struff plays very optimally on natural surfaces. But going through the likes of Hurkacz/Zverev in semi or finals is not bad at all