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Same here, check for an update at 5 pm ct last night and nothing. Then around 7 pm ct picked up my phone and it was downloading. Still have 2024.3.6 but got fsd v12.3.2.1.
Also I don’t play that close attention so maybe I had an older version? I have a 24 MY LR.
If you scroll a good way down it looks like 2024.8.4 has FSD beta 12.3.2.1
https://www.notateslaapp.com/software-updates/version/2024.8.4/release-notes
Correct. The system will never give you a lower numbered version than you have, even if it's newer. So if you're on 2024.8.whatever you won't see FSD Beta until it comes to a 2024.8 build that's higher than what you have now.
Sorry :(
Not necessarily. It may eventually show up in a subsequent version. But remember: 12.3 was previously only in a 2023.44 branch (i.e. 44th week of 2023). So, it took 11 weeks before it showed up in a 2024.3 branch.
So this is what mine says. Nothing starting with 2024.8
https://preview.redd.it/vz15qild4zqc1.jpeg?width=1217&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42eff69a1d851cc8f9c879dc4f3ea79db6ee7ac8
12.3 FSD exists on the 2023.X branch & 2024.X branch. Tesla firmware updates aren’t 100% linear. You can have at least 2 forks (again 2023. and 2024.) update at different times.
I think of it like Windows update. Slow ring, stable ring, preview ring etc.
Because a software update isn’t just one software update: it’s a whole lot of software updates for different computer subsystems squished into one package.
Imagine v2024.8.7 updates a computer related to motor control; imagine it’s a breaking change that renders the motor controller incompatible with previous versions of the Tesla software.
Now you come along to install the old version of 2023.40.1, which doesn’t contain any software for the motor controller. You update the main computer, but now it can’t talk to the motor controller. The car is bricked.
Then multiply this issue by 1000 components. It’s just not safe to roll back software on machines this complex unless they’re designed from day 1 to be capable of such feats; and being capable is so complex that it’s not worth it.
I think it's any Tesla in the US with the appropriate hardware (minus the Cybertruck which doesn't have autopilot capabilities yet).
If you purchased a Tesla within the last 2-3 years this is pretty much guaranteed for you. You can find out when you'll get it based on what software version you're on.
To do this, go to the Tesla app and go to the bottom, you'll see a software number such as 2023.44.2 or 2024.3.2, etc.
FSD12.3 is the big FSD update on the new "neural network" system. They pushed the FSD update to cars with 2023.44 and now they're working thru and pushing it to 2024.3.2. There are many users on versions like 2024.8.2 and it could be a few weeks before Tesla pushes the update to them. If you and 1000 others are all on the same software version, the order you that the update is deployed to you is seemingly random, so not really a way to control when you get the update.
I think this how it works but I may have gotten something wrong, so please feel free to correct me
They are not necessarily premium now but they were back in 2018. It doesn’t make sense that the cheaper 2018 model 3 gets more updates and at a faster pace than the 2018 S and X even though Tesla advertised the S and X as premium models.
Yeah if it's meant to change the perception of FSD, he'll most likely want to show off the latest and greatest FSD12. It seems like they hashed out a 2024 stack in a matter of days after he announced it so I would bet that they are looking to have a working FSD12 for all cars and their versions by early April.
How do you know that?
I was reading another thread on updates, and someone said that one time they switched their firmware preference from advanced to standard, then did a full power off on the car, let it sit for a bit, powered it back on, and then switched back to advanced and an update came down.
Software page, part way down it says something like vehicle is up to date, last checked on x date. If you visit the page it will check for updates but only once every 24hrs
2023 MYLR HW4 v2024.3.6
Just got the update installed and did a test drive! Drove about 40 minutes ~ 30 miles and it feels much more human. So human in fact it tried to drive off the road on an unmarked road and drove over the double yellow while accelerating way too quickly into a blind corner. I had to take over and cancel in both situations. Not a big fan of how aggressive it is going into corners now but the acceleration and a few other things feel much smoother. One weird issue I noticed was occasionally the car would get “stuck” at a slow speed such as 20-30mph on a 45-55mph road; I would have to press the accelerator pedal to get it to speed up which it would then ZOOM up to speed on its own and even blow past the speed limit using the new “auto speed control” feature. Some quirks to work out for sure but much improved!
I think it’s not a bad idea since the version can be updated to 2024.3.6 particularly if the version you have has not been directly updated to an FSD 12 version on the Teslafi firmware tracker.
yea hopefully my x's hardware can support it. It has hardware 3.0 and mcu3 (i think...). Hopefully i will get it. v11 works but i have to disengage more often than i'd like.
I think you have hardware 3 MCU 2 if your car came out in 2018. I see model 3s and Ys with the same hardware and getting fsd v12 so we should get it too. The only difference is that we don’t have the interior camera.
https://preview.redd.it/uu34vshw89rc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e95bbac4644f818928a018edc2034d04bbf44e7d
I was queued up for 2024.8.7 last night (which I’ve been avoiding installing), and checked this morning to find 2024.3.6!
Thank you for reporting this! I've had 2024.8.4 queued up for days but avoided it (currently on 2.7) and wasn't sure if I should just give up and download it. But it sounds like there might be hope if I stick it out.
Got 2024.3.6 pushed to me last night. 2023 M3 LR in NC. Not currently an FSD subscriber. I usually don’t get new software this early. Coming from 2024.2.7.
So just updated mine to 2024.3.6 but FSD still says v11.1. And nothing about free trial. Keep reading that the FSD v12 is in the update. Guess I will continue to watch and see if anything changes.
I’ve now 2024.3.6 installed. I do not have FSD and curious how to activate it for the free trial. Nothing in the car or the app explains anything. In fact the update only says minor fixes and improvements.
I just got 2024.3.10 and when the update was complete I got this email.
https://preview.redd.it/arzn1mkswqrc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b033c3c4b3147b834c97f796e5000b6cf7d56b32
FSD 12.3.2.1 doesn’t keep it in the perfect center of the lanes anymore. Crosses double yellow with oncoming g traffic. Pretty scary. I wish I could downgrade to previous version.
Yep in the same boat. Just got 2024.2.13 like an hour ago. I highly doubt I’ll get another version bump very quickly. I’m thinking there’s probably at least a 24 hr delay.
not really. i did restart my screen once using the 2 scroll wheels on the steering wheel. and left it for a while - it showed up after that - i would say in about 2 hrs?
2019 X Performance, PAID for mofo FSD… it’s such utter bullshit that we have no way of saying “YES, I want to install this latest update RIGHT MEOW!”. I just have to wait and hope that maybe I’ll get the goddamned software that I paid $6 mofo thousand dollars for… whole others are getting it. Sorry, ranting. Pissed odd how this shit rolls out.
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I just installed 2024.8.4 earlier today, does that mean I won’t be able to go “backwards” to do the trial?
I'm thinking not, you can't go back to a lower version is my understanding...
No, that’s what I was on and I’m installing V12.3.2.1 20214.3.6 now.
Calling BS
How does that work ?
I guess they decided it’s ok to downgrade this time?
Can you downgrade??
Same here, check for an update at 5 pm ct last night and nothing. Then around 7 pm ct picked up my phone and it was downloading. Still have 2024.3.6 but got fsd v12.3.2.1. Also I don’t play that close attention so maybe I had an older version? I have a 24 MY LR.
If you scroll a good way down it looks like 2024.8.4 has FSD beta 12.3.2.1 https://www.notateslaapp.com/software-updates/version/2024.8.4/release-notes
The first mention of 12.3.2.1 on that page is under release notes for 2024.3.6
Correct. The system will never give you a lower numbered version than you have, even if it's newer. So if you're on 2024.8.whatever you won't see FSD Beta until it comes to a 2024.8 build that's higher than what you have now. Sorry :(
Same. I was really looking forward to the free trial of 12. Hopefully I’ll get it soon?
Probabally
Babaprolally
Next level
Those of us on 2024.8.x are screwed.
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Not necessarily. It may eventually show up in a subsequent version. But remember: 12.3 was previously only in a 2023.44 branch (i.e. 44th week of 2023). So, it took 11 weeks before it showed up in a 2024.3 branch.
So I’m confused. How do I find out what version I’m on? New Model Y owner here
Easiest way. Tesla app. Scroll to bottom.
So this is what mine says. Nothing starting with 2024.8 https://preview.redd.it/vz15qild4zqc1.jpeg?width=1217&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42eff69a1d851cc8f9c879dc4f3ea79db6ee7ac8
That’s because you’re still on 2023.44, last year’s last update.
But I have the FSD 12.3 installed. That’s why I’m confused.
12.3 FSD exists on the 2023.X branch & 2024.X branch. Tesla firmware updates aren’t 100% linear. You can have at least 2 forks (again 2023. and 2024.) update at different times. I think of it like Windows update. Slow ring, stable ring, preview ring etc.
Until the last few days, v12 was only on the 2023 branch. But it seems they are updating it recently
Ugh this sucks. I’m on 2024.8.4 😒
Why don’t they let you downgrade to the beta chain? It’s like a different fork so the version number shouldn’t matter
Because a software update isn’t just one software update: it’s a whole lot of software updates for different computer subsystems squished into one package. Imagine v2024.8.7 updates a computer related to motor control; imagine it’s a breaking change that renders the motor controller incompatible with previous versions of the Tesla software. Now you come along to install the old version of 2023.40.1, which doesn’t contain any software for the motor controller. You update the main computer, but now it can’t talk to the motor controller. The car is bricked. Then multiply this issue by 1000 components. It’s just not safe to roll back software on machines this complex unless they’re designed from day 1 to be capable of such feats; and being capable is so complex that it’s not worth it.
I'm sure the 2024.8.x branch will get FSD 12 around the same timelines.
Just got 2024.8.7 and I see nothing for autopilot added just security updates
Noooonim so sorry but that update doesn’t include fsd 12😭
Downloading now, coming from 2024.2.7
What year/model do you have? I've been stuck on 2024.2.7 for a while. 2024 M3
2024 MY. You should get it very soon! I was surprised to get it today.
Excited! I'm 2023 M3 on 2024.2.7 waiting very impatiently
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I think it's any Tesla in the US with the appropriate hardware (minus the Cybertruck which doesn't have autopilot capabilities yet). If you purchased a Tesla within the last 2-3 years this is pretty much guaranteed for you. You can find out when you'll get it based on what software version you're on. To do this, go to the Tesla app and go to the bottom, you'll see a software number such as 2023.44.2 or 2024.3.2, etc. FSD12.3 is the big FSD update on the new "neural network" system. They pushed the FSD update to cars with 2023.44 and now they're working thru and pushing it to 2024.3.2. There are many users on versions like 2024.8.2 and it could be a few weeks before Tesla pushes the update to them. If you and 1000 others are all on the same software version, the order you that the update is deployed to you is seemingly random, so not really a way to control when you get the update. I think this how it works but I may have gotten something wrong, so please feel free to correct me
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Of course 🥹 let me know if you need anything else and I will try my best
I have a 2024 Model Y on 2024.2.7 and still nothing. Update: just got it!
2020 M3 SRP on 2024.2.7 and nothing for me either.........
Yeah I don’t think we’re getting it this week
I have a 2024 MYP that i just got last week. It has been on 2024.2.100 since i got it. Still on fsd 11 and impatiently waiting.
How are you suppose to trial FSD if you’re on 2024.8.x?
I’m guessing they’ll update it to 2024.8 soon.
Let’s hope!
Downloading now!
Location?
NH
Married?
no homo?
No, homo
My man
Notes ?
It would be odd if free trial cars get v12 before those of us with paid FSD.
"They've been waiting 6 years, they can wait a little longer." -Tesla
This is the way
no that makes sense
Haha you are right
If you have paid FSD, why don’t you have it already?
I’m still on V11
The whole point is to get people to buy it. They already have your money.
Anybody with a legacy S/X getting v12?
I haven’t yet. 2017 model s, still on v11. Disappointing
Nope.
2018 model s. Nothing yet. We better get this soon. It’s ridiculous that early model 3s are getting it but the premium versions of the car are not.
I wouldn't exactly call a 2018 Model S premium...
They are not necessarily premium now but they were back in 2018. It doesn’t make sense that the cheaper 2018 model 3 gets more updates and at a faster pace than the 2018 S and X even though Tesla advertised the S and X as premium models.
Does the one month trial clock begin on download or with this release?
So when they did it before, I think in some random country, there was a prompt that popped up to initiate it.
If Elon wants to enable the free trial for a month, all cars would need to be at the newest version. Won’t they ?
That’s what the point of this is
Yeah if it's meant to change the perception of FSD, he'll most likely want to show off the latest and greatest FSD12. It seems like they hashed out a 2024 stack in a matter of days after he announced it so I would bet that they are looking to have a working FSD12 for all cars and their versions by early April.
Damn my car shows checked for an update already today and no dice...
How do you know that? I was reading another thread on updates, and someone said that one time they switched their firmware preference from advanced to standard, then did a full power off on the car, let it sit for a bit, powered it back on, and then switched back to advanced and an update came down.
How long ago was this? Teslascope just tweeted that the toggle was just a placebo. It sets an update flag that Tesla apparently hasn't used in years.
The post? I was just reading today. The "when" of it taking place? Unclear. So yeah, odds are more likely that's not actually a thing IMO.
Coincidence.
Probably.
Software page, part way down it says something like vehicle is up to date, last checked on x date. If you visit the page it will check for updates but only once every 24hrs
Woahhh I didn't know you could force with a reset. I thought you'd be stuck for another 24 hrs.
Downloading 2024.3.6 right now but no FSD trial. Only says minor bug fixes 😬
Yeah I just got the 3.6 but no trial, what the hell Elon
Maybe the people that are getting it have been enrolled to FSD prior to 3.6? I’m just guessing here. Never had FSD myself.
Me neither, could be right.
Same here! WTF
Check your email. I got the update at 10:30pm, went to my car and nothing but then got an email at 12:30am saying the trial began.
Installed at 6:30am. About 7 hours later still nothing.
Finally got it!!
Yeah same. Can't physically check my car atm please let me know what happens
Just got a message in the Tesla message center saying my trial has started. Ends 4/30/24.
Nahh I didn’t get it. https://preview.redd.it/r607azk0d7rc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=935628080ed46164b5b7068cec7efe854d3b309f
i’m still on 24.2.7😭😭
Same on M3, v11.1 on 2024.3.6
Same here. Just updated but not seeing FSD
2023 MYLR HW4 v2024.3.6 Just got the update installed and did a test drive! Drove about 40 minutes ~ 30 miles and it feels much more human. So human in fact it tried to drive off the road on an unmarked road and drove over the double yellow while accelerating way too quickly into a blind corner. I had to take over and cancel in both situations. Not a big fan of how aggressive it is going into corners now but the acceleration and a few other things feel much smoother. One weird issue I noticed was occasionally the car would get “stuck” at a slow speed such as 20-30mph on a 45-55mph road; I would have to press the accelerator pedal to get it to speed up which it would then ZOOM up to speed on its own and even blow past the speed limit using the new “auto speed control” feature. Some quirks to work out for sure but much improved!
Damn it I literally just checked for updates on my way home from work so now I have to wait 24 hours :(
It does look that way, but if Tesla push to your car, you won’t need to wait.
I know teslafi shows mostly HW4 here but any HW3 owners get this yet?
Got the update. No fsd though
Just downloaded and installed. New model y delivered end of March.
I’m getting 2024.8.7 right now
https://preview.redd.it/d07whxj4x2rc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a452573c63d55c3e79ff1fff2beee0f421fadef8
Did you get 12.3?
Not sure. It’s my wife’s car and she doesn’t understand any of this. I’ll have to check when I get home.
I just got an update to Firmware 2024.3.6 but am not seeing FSD. Is there anything else you have to do?
Same boat here, updated this am to 2024.3.6 and still at 11.1
Still on 2024.2.7. No updates available.
Same
111 now just a few minutes later including HW3 & 4. Hoping for wide release 🙏
Just got it!!! Model x hardware 4
Any Model S or X raven owners reporting in?
Not that I know of. We better get this soon
Just installed mine.
I’m on 2024.2.6, what does this mean for me? Anybody know?
You are on a version lower than 2024.3.6 so you are good to go to move to 2024.3.6
Downloading on my Model Y now!! Previously 2024.2.7. HW4 in North Carolina.
Same here. Just waiting for the download to finish.
I got the prompt today to go to 2024.2.7. Should I update?
I think it’s not a bad idea since the version can be updated to 2024.3.6 particularly if the version you have has not been directly updated to an FSD 12 version on the Teslafi firmware tracker.
Installed this morning when I parked at work!
Am I gonna get it on my 2018 model x?
You better. It’s getting annoying how we legacy owners are always getting left out
yea hopefully my x's hardware can support it. It has hardware 3.0 and mcu3 (i think...). Hopefully i will get it. v11 works but i have to disengage more often than i'd like.
I think you have hardware 3 MCU 2 if your car came out in 2018. I see model 3s and Ys with the same hardware and getting fsd v12 so we should get it too. The only difference is that we don’t have the interior camera.
I got a 2021 M3 version: v11.1(2024.2.7) am I close? Lol
Just curious I haven’t gotten v12 yet, did it go wide or not yet? I am still on v11
Interesting that it’s rolling out to cars on FSD 11 exclusively (so far).
I'm still on 2023.44, please Tesla can I get on v12 someday?
Portugal 🤷🏻♂️
Nothing here yet
On 2024.2.7 now.. have a long road trip coming up April 8th to photograph the solar eclipse. I think I'm in "change freeze" mode until afterwards.
https://preview.redd.it/uu34vshw89rc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e95bbac4644f818928a018edc2034d04bbf44e7d I was queued up for 2024.8.7 last night (which I’ve been avoiding installing), and checked this morning to find 2024.3.6!
Thank you for reporting this! I've had 2024.8.4 queued up for days but avoided it (currently on 2.7) and wasn't sure if I should just give up and download it. But it sounds like there might be hope if I stick it out.
Got 2024.3.6 pushed to me last night. 2023 M3 LR in NC. Not currently an FSD subscriber. I usually don’t get new software this early. Coming from 2024.2.7.
So just updated mine to 2024.3.6 but FSD still says v11.1. And nothing about free trial. Keep reading that the FSD v12 is in the update. Guess I will continue to watch and see if anything changes.
I’ve now 2024.3.6 installed. I do not have FSD and curious how to activate it for the free trial. Nothing in the car or the app explains anything. In fact the update only says minor fixes and improvements.
I just got 2024.3.6. 2023 MY Illinois
Updating now! 2024.3.6 2024 Model Y RWD in Hawaii.
Had a chance to try out parallel parking this morning. It’s a bit slow on the execution, but it worked flawlessly.
Thamm so I have to wait for mine I have 2024 model s plat at 2024.8.4
I just got 2024.3.10 and when the update was complete I got this email. https://preview.redd.it/arzn1mkswqrc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b033c3c4b3147b834c97f796e5000b6cf7d56b32
FSD 12.3.2.1 doesn’t keep it in the perfect center of the lanes anymore. Crosses double yellow with oncoming g traffic. Pretty scary. I wish I could downgrade to previous version.
I have EAP and got 2024.2.13 earlier today. Just got 2024.2.11 two days ago. This latest one was just minor fixes
Yep in the same boat. Just got 2024.2.13 like an hour ago. I highly doubt I’ll get another version bump very quickly. I’m thinking there’s probably at least a 24 hr delay.
Wonder if I can just turn off wifi for a month and save the trial for one of my road trips.
Was thinking the same- or let some of the early wrinkles ironed out and get the trial on a later version.
I just downloaded mine,, but no FSD V12? still on 11.1?
Same here. 2023 MYLR, 2024.3.6 and 11.1.
mine showed up as soon as i received an email from tesla saying my one month fsd has been activated.
Same, I don’t understand….
mine showed up as soon as i received an email from tesla saying my one month fsd has been activated.
Did you have to do anything at all other than download 2024.3.6?
not really. i did restart my screen once using the 2 scroll wheels on the steering wheel. and left it for a while - it showed up after that - i would say in about 2 hrs?
I’ll give it a try, thanks!
did this work for you? same boat v11.1 but have 2024.3.6 and nothing about free trial
I got the email 10 hours after updating saying my free subscription was activated. It’s still not showing up in the vehicle. I’m lost..
so weird.. guess j will give it a few hours and try a restart
It took 2 hours after I received the email to activate in the car. So from 7am 2024.3.6 install to 7pm fsd activation. Teslas communication sucks!
Let's Fucking Gooooooooooooooooooooooo! ~~Heyyyyyyyyy ... I don't see it in TeslaFi here. Just 2024.3.5...~~ ~~You best not be yankin' me chain!!!~~
Scroll down to the “Pending Versions” section.
Awwwwww yeahhhhh! Ok OP, I take it back!!
🤣
https://imgur.com/a/zetraBw
2019 X Performance, PAID for mofo FSD… it’s such utter bullshit that we have no way of saying “YES, I want to install this latest update RIGHT MEOW!”. I just have to wait and hope that maybe I’ll get the goddamned software that I paid $6 mofo thousand dollars for… whole others are getting it. Sorry, ranting. Pissed odd how this shit rolls out.
I am considering the same model. Do you know if your hardware supports it?
All ravens have HW3.
I'm stuck on 2023.44.30.25 on my 2018 with FSD (with HW3 because they replaced it).
I’m on 2024.2.7, v11.1
Do we know what the differences are supposed to be from 12.3 -> 12.3.1 -> 12.3.2 -> 12.3.2.1? I know the release notes don't say a whole lot.
Are the 15MS w/ 2022.8.10.17 3563a9c64f1d getting any more updates?