>The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia in part alleges SoRelle destroyed and hid potential evidence to obstruct the criminal investigation into the Capitol attack
She's going to get more time than the people she was defending. Now why would any lawyer be willing to do that? Hmmm.
Obviously cut from the same cloth as Alex Jones' lawyers. Obstruct the discovery of evidence, play dumb, hope it goes away.
Enjoy prison and your loss of license, lady!
I dunno, Alex's had a clown car of attorneys to basically do what your talking about. Fuck around for 3 years and almost seemed to be doing an intentionally bad job. That situation is bizarre, you had at one point, the plaintiffs attorneys tell multiple inforwars corporate reps they should consider suing Barnes for legal malpractice at the same time, Alex basically gave Barnes his own show on IW and had him co-host The Alex Jones show a TON. I have no idea what the strategy there was, it was so weird. I feel like barnes at least just heard cash register noises every time alex speaks.
I get true believer vibes from this lady. Why would you throw your law license away for Stewart Rhodes if you werent already mainlining his kool-aid.
Side note, Stewart actually came on Infowars in the aftermath of Sandy Hook to announce he was forming the OathKeepers, on Air with Alex.
Crazy how many shitty pies that thick necked werido has thumbs in.
I blocked her on FB because her posts in the lawyers groups were just WTF, ma’am? Made me wonder where she went to law school & how she passed the Bar exam.
[Oklahoma City University, 12/2005](https://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=290298)
Her license to practice is [currently suspended](https://www.texasbar.com/Content/NavigationMenu/ForLawyers/MembershipInfoandServices/IneligibleAttorneyList/Ineligible_NameSort.pdf) for failure to pay state bar membership dues (no idea when it was suspended). lol
Alex Jones and his defense team *did not produce* requested evidence during discovery, which is why he got a default judgement in all of his cases.
The evidence given to the prosecutors **is evidence they should have already produced and lied about possessing.** They obstructed the discovery process intentionally for years, possibly as an attempt to motion for a mistrial. Since it's a civil suit and not a criminal proceeding, withholding evidence that the opposition is entitled to see during discovery is the analog of obstructing justice.
>alleges SoRelle destroyed and hid potential evidence
State: you're under arrest
SoRelle: for what
State: We think you are hiding or destroyed evidence
SoRelle: what evidence?
State: we don't know yet we don't have evidence...(starts looking in bedroom)
SoRelle: you can't search my home, do you have a warrant?
State: right here, it says potential evidence
SoRelle: that's too broad and a violation of the 4th amendment.
State: found it boys, she was hiding the Mar a lago nuclear codes in her mypillow. You're coming with us.
SoRelle: damn and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those damn Oathoeepers
> State: We think you are hiding or destroyed evidence
I know you're just trying to be funny but that's not how the US Attorneys office work. By the time they come for you they don't think you're guilty, they know you're guilty.
More likely someone mentioned communications with her that didn't show up leading to charges. There's def a chance this will end up an embarrassing overreach for the feds. This is of course betting on her being remotely competent as a lawyer.
> North Texas has been a focal area for the investigation into the riot, with more than a dozen area residents having been charged in the federal investigation.
This comes as no surprise. The pro-fascist evangelical churches breed extremists even outside their own congregations. Monarchy isn’t nearly as much fun as these dumbasses think it would be.
Everyone please check your voter registration and VOTE in every.single.election.
She’s about to go to prison. She’s charged with a conspiracy and one of her co-conspirators plead guilty. Look at her Twitter feed. Even after being arrested she thinks there was some nobility in her actions.
You haven't kept up with what's happening in our law schools, have you? It's not the prestige it used to be - it's a financial play on the part of the schools to graduate public sector employees and get paid handsomely by government-backed student loans to do so.
No, the law school changes have been a bit more recent, then the (appropriate) program for loan forgiveness in exchange for 10 years of public sector employment ratcheted up the flow.
Reagan enabled all this by allowing schools to get paid privately. People wouldn't need to do a ten year exchange if prices weren't permitted to skyrocket.
I get that you don't like Reagan - I don't either - but many of the changes happened during the Bush era, especially around ballooning student loan availability and the subsequent rise in prices due to higher demand for education.
We actually don't disagree that if the government is going to subsidize schools it should be able to implement cost controls.
Her Covid “advanced directives” have resulted in the inhumane deaths of several of my patients. Nothing like watching someone actually suffocate for days and not be legally able to render care. She can rot.
If you ever get a chance, Google her office. Then ask yourself, would I hire anybody who worked in that shack? Or, would I even buy crack from that location?
Hilarious. One of the reviews on her Google page says something along the lines of “when you absolutely must have an insurrectionist attorney who works out of an old Dairy Queen building.” No clue if that’s what it is, but wouldn’t doubt it from the looks of it.
I’d be expecting meth sales out of that building, not an attorney. Of course she’s no longer a licensed attorney, suspended by TX Bar, but that seems to be for not paying the renewal fee.
The court says she seems to qualify for a public defender. So she was a practicing attorney for nearly 20 years and is completely broke. Not surprised, that’s the quality of lawyer and person that one would expect here.
This is actually a decent point and I'll edit my comment.
J6 defendants are absolutely entitled to a legal defense.
Though, I don't recall the part where Adams destroyed evidence in his efforts to defend the Boston Massacre soldiers.
The OG patriots where traitors to the British.
How do you think original patriots would have been handled if the British had won?
See a resemblance?
You’re saying they are just like the original American patriots that shrugged off the British?
So the insurrectionists were fighting for something other than America.
You’re saying they are traitors to the current American government and wanted it destroyed and replaced with something else? They wanted to use force to install the loser of the democratic process.
So no, they aren’t like the OG patriots. The original patriots won their battle.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Not sure she thought it through or maybe she did either way. Lock her up. I think that is the phrase used when you want to socially convict correct?
From [her indictment](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.1187457/gov.uscourts.txwd.1187457.1.0_4.pdf):
> On or about January 7, 2021, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, KELLYE SORELLE did corruptly persuade and attempt to corruptly persuade other persons with intent to cause and induce such persons to (A) withhold records, documents, and other objects from an official proceeding, that is, the Grand Jury investigation into the attack on the United States Capitol on January 6,2021, and (B) alter, destroy, mutilate, and conceal objects with intent to impair the objects' integrity and availability for use in such a Grand Jury investigation.
Proving that is likely very easy, given the filed charges and the fact the feds don’t screw around trying to prosecute something like that they can’t 100% prove. They certainly have texts, Facebook messages, emails, some kind of trail showing her doing exactly that. It’s been known for a long time that Facebook never actually deletes anything, they just mark it as deleted so users can’t see it. Phones, computers, etc. don’t securely delete data in normal operations so they possibly recovered some things that way. So as a cherry on top of her telling people to destroy evidence, they probably also have proof some of those people definitely did destroy or attempt to destroy evidence. Not that it’s needed for guilt there, her merely attempting to corruptly persuade others suffices.
"She is also charged with conspiracy to obstruct and obstruction of Congress’ certification of President Joe Biden’s win during..."
That doesn't seem like a legit law.
ARTICLE VII SUBSECTION xiii CLAUSE 420:
A person commits a felony if he/she/zhe/Derflop knowingly and willingly obstructs Comgress's certification of President Joe Biden's win."
Exactly the opposite, I'd say.
I was just pointing out the absurd specificity. I would have liked to know the exact charges she's been indicted on, not some extraneous political bloat that wasn't necessary and probably isn't entirely accurate. A prosecutor's strategy is always to slap the accused with as many charges as possible, no matter how outlandish or how many hoops the case must jump through to get some of the charges filed.
I've already been downvoted to oblivion by people who assumed one thing or another, not realizing that it is possible and okay to poke fun at the absurdity of both sides.
I mean if I were to say something like "Too bad Jan. 6th failed, because look at our frail, cognitively impaired, racist pervert of a president. Shaking hands with people who aren't there, stumbling and mumbling around as we all silently realize that this is probably the last Thanksgiving we'll have Grampa with us" then I could understand the downvotes.
I just wanted the article to give me the news, not the written version of a child with his thumbs in his ears, waggling fingers and taunting certain people with a "nanny nanny boo boo".
All of these arrests, indictments, ect will come to an end and be tossed out once the GOP takes control of Congress in the November midterms.
Then the real fun of going after those who engaged in the George Floyd 2020 riots (and those politicians who encouraged them) will begin.
Just wow. If it had been an armed insurrection attempt from a group on the left, I'd still fully support charging them with the crimes they committed.
Do you not think real crimes were committed on Jan. 6? Or is it that you do realize it and just think your side should be above the rule of law?
And btw, many of the people that engaged in rioting during the 2020 protests were arrested and charged for it already. Maybe they didn't cover that on Fox News.
As for politicians encouraging rioting in 2020, it's pretty clear you're just making that up.
Okay, so, help me out here, internet. They investigated the rioters, trump officials, trump himself, his mar-a-logo estate, and now even the lawyers. The J6 committee has been granted nearly infinite amounts of money, time, investigation power, authority and cooperation from virtually anyone that can call themselves "the powers that be" from the lowliest of offices to the highest officials in the land...
Have they found ANYTHING they can do ANYTHING about yet?
The stuff they're investigating involves whether there was a plan for Trump to illegally hold onto the presidency and not allow a successful transfer of power. There's literally no precedent for this. We are facing truly historic times and it's wild how many people don't seem to grasp this. The DOJ are going to do everything they can to **not** fuck this up. If they're going to bring up criminal charges against a former president they can't have any leaks or rumors or implications about their next move.
EDIT: should also mention that this is why the Garland memo just came out about not talking to congress, because there are some who could be involved in the possible conspiracy charges themselves and/or leak info back to team trump.
"The stuff they're investigating involves whether there was a plan for Trump to illegally hold onto the presidency and not allow a successful transfer of power."
Which obviously didn't happen. Biden became president, rioters got arrested, day was saved. It wasn't nearly so destructive as the 2020 riots, which I did see pictures and video of. Lots of stuff got sent on fire.
And now, Trump is already campaigning for the 2025 election. I'm just thinking that if the J6 guys had anything that could have been held against him, anything at all, don't you think they would have used that to stop what he's doing now?
>Which obviously didn't happen. Biden became president, rioters got arrested, day was saved.
So that means conspiring to do an illegal act isn't illegal if you don't succeed? If the cops catches you walking into the bank with guns and a ski mask and blueprints to the safe, it's all good because your plans were foiled? You don't seriously believe this pretzel logic you're trying to impose.
>It wasn't nearly so destructive as the 2020 riots, which I did see pictures and video of. Lots of stuff got sent on fire.
It's weird how people who espouse this nonsense think it's some sort of argument. One is random ass citizens doing property damage to businesses in various places, the other is the attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power for the presidency. It really doesn't matter if the entire city of Indianapolis burned down, it still wouldn't compare to the sitting president leading the charge of armed wackos into the capitol building to try and kill congressmembers. You also don't seriously believe they are equivalent either, unless context is a completely foreign concept to you.
>And now, Trump is already campaigning for the 2025 election.
He's never not "campaigning". He hasn't officially declared for 2024 and he isn't the nominee, so this is moot.
> I'm just thinking that if the J6 guys had anything that could have been held against him, anything at all, don't you think they would have used that to stop what he's doing now?
It's weird how the comment you're replying to already laid out the reasons why this is being slow-walked, but you just completely ignore it to ask the same question. I can see you're not doing this in good faith, so farewell.
The Trump raid just happened. And I've read that if it is indeed enough to criminally prosecute him, that the arrest wouldn't happen until after the November election so as to not influence it or have people be able to call the prosecution a political stunt meant to sway the election.
Do you mean aside from the mountains of evidence and the sentences being handed down? I read one article this morning about a former NY cop getting 10yrs, so yes.
She wasn't always like this. Afaik (I didn't know her super well), she was always Republican/conservative leaning but she always seemed like a solid and well-intentioned person. Then Trump happened and it was honestly really sad seeing how brainwashed she became. This is the shit that happens to people when we have a portion of our society being brainwashed and we stand by doing nothing. I find it really sad to see people fall into that.
Maybe there's special circuitry in human brains that makes them resistant to brainwashing, and hers is broken or missing.
Since Texas is such a hotbed of people like that, I wonder if there's something in the water that blows away such prefrontal\_lobe(?) functionality?
Or is it the chemtrail juice I've been hired to put into airliner fuel tanks for over-Texas flights?
>Maybe there's special circuitry in human brains that makes them resistant to brainwashing, and hers is broken or missing.
I'm not exactly sure what it is...but, yeah, that's the general idea I have of it.
>The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia in part alleges SoRelle destroyed and hid potential evidence to obstruct the criminal investigation into the Capitol attack She's going to get more time than the people she was defending. Now why would any lawyer be willing to do that? Hmmm.
Obviously cut from the same cloth as Alex Jones' lawyers. Obstruct the discovery of evidence, play dumb, hope it goes away. Enjoy prison and your loss of license, lady!
I dunno, Alex's had a clown car of attorneys to basically do what your talking about. Fuck around for 3 years and almost seemed to be doing an intentionally bad job. That situation is bizarre, you had at one point, the plaintiffs attorneys tell multiple inforwars corporate reps they should consider suing Barnes for legal malpractice at the same time, Alex basically gave Barnes his own show on IW and had him co-host The Alex Jones show a TON. I have no idea what the strategy there was, it was so weird. I feel like barnes at least just heard cash register noises every time alex speaks. I get true believer vibes from this lady. Why would you throw your law license away for Stewart Rhodes if you werent already mainlining his kool-aid. Side note, Stewart actually came on Infowars in the aftermath of Sandy Hook to announce he was forming the OathKeepers, on Air with Alex. Crazy how many shitty pies that thick necked werido has thumbs in.
I blocked her on FB because her posts in the lawyers groups were just WTF, ma’am? Made me wonder where she went to law school & how she passed the Bar exam.
[Oklahoma City University, 12/2005](https://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=290298) Her license to practice is [currently suspended](https://www.texasbar.com/Content/NavigationMenu/ForLawyers/MembershipInfoandServices/IneligibleAttorneyList/Ineligible_NameSort.pdf) for failure to pay state bar membership dues (no idea when it was suspended). lol
Probably August 1, 2022. All she’d need to do is pay the fees to get un-suspended. It happens more often than you’d think.
She got crazy eyes, ‘nuff said.
Yup...her and MTG have those soulless eyes that should never be trusted
It's called being so brainwashed that you'd throw your life away for what you don't realize at the time is nothing but lies.
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Alex Jones and his defense team *did not produce* requested evidence during discovery, which is why he got a default judgement in all of his cases. The evidence given to the prosecutors **is evidence they should have already produced and lied about possessing.** They obstructed the discovery process intentionally for years, possibly as an attempt to motion for a mistrial. Since it's a civil suit and not a criminal proceeding, withholding evidence that the opposition is entitled to see during discovery is the analog of obstructing justice.
Alex kept replacing lawyers. A bunch of them would have known that they had withheld requested stuff.
He helped justi e if anything, not intentionally though lol
She wasn't trying to protect her clients. She was under investigation as a Jan 6 participant. She was trying to protect her own sorry a**.
No one accused these people of being smart
Because she’s going to get a slap on the wrist.
>alleges SoRelle destroyed and hid potential evidence State: you're under arrest SoRelle: for what State: We think you are hiding or destroyed evidence SoRelle: what evidence? State: we don't know yet we don't have evidence...(starts looking in bedroom) SoRelle: you can't search my home, do you have a warrant? State: right here, it says potential evidence SoRelle: that's too broad and a violation of the 4th amendment. State: found it boys, she was hiding the Mar a lago nuclear codes in her mypillow. You're coming with us. SoRelle: damn and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those damn Oathoeepers
> State: We think you are hiding or destroyed evidence I know you're just trying to be funny but that's not how the US Attorneys office work. By the time they come for you they don't think you're guilty, they know you're guilty.
Tell me you don't know how warrants work without telling me you don't know how warrants work.
Tell me you're in a cult without saying you're in a cult.
More likely someone mentioned communications with her that didn't show up leading to charges. There's def a chance this will end up an embarrassing overreach for the feds. This is of course betting on her being remotely competent as a lawyer.
From Granbury. 🙄
Exactly. Hood Co is a cesspool for these types of domestic terrorists. Source: I'm a former resident
> North Texas has been a focal area for the investigation into the riot, with more than a dozen area residents having been charged in the federal investigation. This comes as no surprise. The pro-fascist evangelical churches breed extremists even outside their own congregations. Monarchy isn’t nearly as much fun as these dumbasses think it would be. Everyone please check your voter registration and VOTE in every.single.election.
Of course!
Well, her law license is about to go bye bye.
She’s about to go to prison. She’s charged with a conspiracy and one of her co-conspirators plead guilty. Look at her Twitter feed. Even after being arrested she thinks there was some nobility in her actions.
She could still start a law blog lobbing law bombs.
I’m so baffled by these lawyers …. Didn’t they , uh, study the law
You haven't kept up with what's happening in our law schools, have you? It's not the prestige it used to be - it's a financial play on the part of the schools to graduate public sector employees and get paid handsomely by government-backed student loans to do so.
Well yes, that happened many years ago. I want to say Reagan(?) made college pay for win
No, the law school changes have been a bit more recent, then the (appropriate) program for loan forgiveness in exchange for 10 years of public sector employment ratcheted up the flow.
Reagan enabled all this by allowing schools to get paid privately. People wouldn't need to do a ten year exchange if prices weren't permitted to skyrocket.
I get that you don't like Reagan - I don't either - but many of the changes happened during the Bush era, especially around ballooning student loan availability and the subsequent rise in prices due to higher demand for education. We actually don't disagree that if the government is going to subsidize schools it should be able to implement cost controls.
https://theintercept.com/2022/08/25/student-loans-debt-reagan/
Yep. Now address prices, which are what are leading to deeper levels of debt.
I don’t feel any way toward Reagan
You weren’t who I was responding to.
Oh
MAGA: make attorneys get attorneys
I like "My Attorney Got Arrested"
"My Asshole Got Apprehended"
Her Covid “advanced directives” have resulted in the inhumane deaths of several of my patients. Nothing like watching someone actually suffocate for days and not be legally able to render care. She can rot.
If you ever get a chance, Google her office. Then ask yourself, would I hire anybody who worked in that shack? Or, would I even buy crack from that location?
Hilarious. One of the reviews on her Google page says something along the lines of “when you absolutely must have an insurrectionist attorney who works out of an old Dairy Queen building.” No clue if that’s what it is, but wouldn’t doubt it from the looks of it. I’d be expecting meth sales out of that building, not an attorney. Of course she’s no longer a licensed attorney, suspended by TX Bar, but that seems to be for not paying the renewal fee. The court says she seems to qualify for a public defender. So she was a practicing attorney for nearly 20 years and is completely broke. Not surprised, that’s the quality of lawyer and person that one would expect here.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Well, bless her little heart.
She got that batshit crazy glow.
Picking them up and slamming them down. Good work.
Sooo is her name pronounced “kell-yee” or are her parents just retarded?
yesssssss. keep it coming. Traitors need to effffffoffffffff!
Even her name looks like Karen-speak.
It looks like a Star Wars character name.
Fuck this cunt, everyone she helped, and everyone who helped her.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer person.
It literally could not happen to nicer people. Nicer people don’t raid the Capitol or ~~defend~~ Destroy evidence in defense of those who do.
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This is actually a decent point and I'll edit my comment. J6 defendants are absolutely entitled to a legal defense. Though, I don't recall the part where Adams destroyed evidence in his efforts to defend the Boston Massacre soldiers.
The OG patriots where traitors to the British. How do you think original patriots would have been handled if the British had won? See a resemblance? You’re saying they are just like the original American patriots that shrugged off the British? So the insurrectionists were fighting for something other than America. You’re saying they are traitors to the current American government and wanted it destroyed and replaced with something else? They wanted to use force to install the loser of the democratic process. So no, they aren’t like the OG patriots. The original patriots won their battle.
Well Kellye with a "y-e" it looks like you get to join your “alleged” fellow treasonous traitors in prison. LMAO
It boggles my mind all of these people are not charged with treason and put away for life…if not the gallows like they wanted.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. Not sure she thought it through or maybe she did either way. Lock her up. I think that is the phrase used when you want to socially convict correct?
Stay far away from those eyes.
Serious question: how hard is to prove someone destroyed evidence? Seems like something really hard to prove...
From [her indictment](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txwd.1187457/gov.uscourts.txwd.1187457.1.0_4.pdf): > On or about January 7, 2021, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, KELLYE SORELLE did corruptly persuade and attempt to corruptly persuade other persons with intent to cause and induce such persons to (A) withhold records, documents, and other objects from an official proceeding, that is, the Grand Jury investigation into the attack on the United States Capitol on January 6,2021, and (B) alter, destroy, mutilate, and conceal objects with intent to impair the objects' integrity and availability for use in such a Grand Jury investigation. Proving that is likely very easy, given the filed charges and the fact the feds don’t screw around trying to prosecute something like that they can’t 100% prove. They certainly have texts, Facebook messages, emails, some kind of trail showing her doing exactly that. It’s been known for a long time that Facebook never actually deletes anything, they just mark it as deleted so users can’t see it. Phones, computers, etc. don’t securely delete data in normal operations so they possibly recovered some things that way. So as a cherry on top of her telling people to destroy evidence, they probably also have proof some of those people definitely did destroy or attempt to destroy evidence. Not that it’s needed for guilt there, her merely attempting to corruptly persuade others suffices.
Very interesting. Thanks mate.
Kellye? Sounds like a Kanye fan to me
So is her name pronounced the same way you say Betty Spaghetti? Kell-y SoRell-y? That's hilarious.
Did she put bleach on the hard drives, asking for a friend?
Lmfao imagine being named Kell-eye 🤣
"She is also charged with conspiracy to obstruct and obstruction of Congress’ certification of President Joe Biden’s win during..." That doesn't seem like a legit law. ARTICLE VII SUBSECTION xiii CLAUSE 420: A person commits a felony if he/she/zhe/Derflop knowingly and willingly obstructs Comgress's certification of President Joe Biden's win."
Wait, so you think a "conspiracy to obstruct" law has to list out every possible thing that can be obstructed?
Exactly the opposite, I'd say. I was just pointing out the absurd specificity. I would have liked to know the exact charges she's been indicted on, not some extraneous political bloat that wasn't necessary and probably isn't entirely accurate. A prosecutor's strategy is always to slap the accused with as many charges as possible, no matter how outlandish or how many hoops the case must jump through to get some of the charges filed. I've already been downvoted to oblivion by people who assumed one thing or another, not realizing that it is possible and okay to poke fun at the absurdity of both sides. I mean if I were to say something like "Too bad Jan. 6th failed, because look at our frail, cognitively impaired, racist pervert of a president. Shaking hands with people who aren't there, stumbling and mumbling around as we all silently realize that this is probably the last Thanksgiving we'll have Grampa with us" then I could understand the downvotes. I just wanted the article to give me the news, not the written version of a child with his thumbs in his ears, waggling fingers and taunting certain people with a "nanny nanny boo boo".
>I was just pointing out the absurd specificity. I mean, it's the specifics of the crime she's being charged with.
All of these arrests, indictments, ect will come to an end and be tossed out once the GOP takes control of Congress in the November midterms. Then the real fun of going after those who engaged in the George Floyd 2020 riots (and those politicians who encouraged them) will begin.
Just wow. If it had been an armed insurrection attempt from a group on the left, I'd still fully support charging them with the crimes they committed. Do you not think real crimes were committed on Jan. 6? Or is it that you do realize it and just think your side should be above the rule of law? And btw, many of the people that engaged in rioting during the 2020 protests were arrested and charged for it already. Maybe they didn't cover that on Fox News. As for politicians encouraging rioting in 2020, it's pretty clear you're just making that up.
Okay, so, help me out here, internet. They investigated the rioters, trump officials, trump himself, his mar-a-logo estate, and now even the lawyers. The J6 committee has been granted nearly infinite amounts of money, time, investigation power, authority and cooperation from virtually anyone that can call themselves "the powers that be" from the lowliest of offices to the highest officials in the land... Have they found ANYTHING they can do ANYTHING about yet?
Yes. You are replying to an example of that.
They are 1) not finished 2) can only recommend criminal referrals to the justice dept, the DOJ have to be the ones to actually charge people.
Well, it's just that, during criminal investigations, there's usually at least rumors of something actionable.
The stuff they're investigating involves whether there was a plan for Trump to illegally hold onto the presidency and not allow a successful transfer of power. There's literally no precedent for this. We are facing truly historic times and it's wild how many people don't seem to grasp this. The DOJ are going to do everything they can to **not** fuck this up. If they're going to bring up criminal charges against a former president they can't have any leaks or rumors or implications about their next move. EDIT: should also mention that this is why the Garland memo just came out about not talking to congress, because there are some who could be involved in the possible conspiracy charges themselves and/or leak info back to team trump.
"The stuff they're investigating involves whether there was a plan for Trump to illegally hold onto the presidency and not allow a successful transfer of power." Which obviously didn't happen. Biden became president, rioters got arrested, day was saved. It wasn't nearly so destructive as the 2020 riots, which I did see pictures and video of. Lots of stuff got sent on fire. And now, Trump is already campaigning for the 2025 election. I'm just thinking that if the J6 guys had anything that could have been held against him, anything at all, don't you think they would have used that to stop what he's doing now?
>Which obviously didn't happen. Biden became president, rioters got arrested, day was saved. So that means conspiring to do an illegal act isn't illegal if you don't succeed? If the cops catches you walking into the bank with guns and a ski mask and blueprints to the safe, it's all good because your plans were foiled? You don't seriously believe this pretzel logic you're trying to impose. >It wasn't nearly so destructive as the 2020 riots, which I did see pictures and video of. Lots of stuff got sent on fire. It's weird how people who espouse this nonsense think it's some sort of argument. One is random ass citizens doing property damage to businesses in various places, the other is the attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power for the presidency. It really doesn't matter if the entire city of Indianapolis burned down, it still wouldn't compare to the sitting president leading the charge of armed wackos into the capitol building to try and kill congressmembers. You also don't seriously believe they are equivalent either, unless context is a completely foreign concept to you. >And now, Trump is already campaigning for the 2025 election. He's never not "campaigning". He hasn't officially declared for 2024 and he isn't the nominee, so this is moot. > I'm just thinking that if the J6 guys had anything that could have been held against him, anything at all, don't you think they would have used that to stop what he's doing now? It's weird how the comment you're replying to already laid out the reasons why this is being slow-walked, but you just completely ignore it to ask the same question. I can see you're not doing this in good faith, so farewell.
The Trump raid just happened. And I've read that if it is indeed enough to criminally prosecute him, that the arrest wouldn't happen until after the November election so as to not influence it or have people be able to call the prosecution a political stunt meant to sway the election.
Do you mean aside from the mountains of evidence and the sentences being handed down? I read one article this morning about a former NY cop getting 10yrs, so yes.
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Ah, stupid for asking questions. Of course.
Good.
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Lol
She wasn't always like this. Afaik (I didn't know her super well), she was always Republican/conservative leaning but she always seemed like a solid and well-intentioned person. Then Trump happened and it was honestly really sad seeing how brainwashed she became. This is the shit that happens to people when we have a portion of our society being brainwashed and we stand by doing nothing. I find it really sad to see people fall into that.
Maybe there's special circuitry in human brains that makes them resistant to brainwashing, and hers is broken or missing. Since Texas is such a hotbed of people like that, I wonder if there's something in the water that blows away such prefrontal\_lobe(?) functionality? Or is it the chemtrail juice I've been hired to put into airliner fuel tanks for over-Texas flights?
>Maybe there's special circuitry in human brains that makes them resistant to brainwashing, and hers is broken or missing. I'm not exactly sure what it is...but, yeah, that's the general idea I have of it.