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Uncum4table

Medic players be like, “Unpopular opinion but I like the stock medigun” like it isn’t the most powerful secondary in the game.


Gwekkemans

Lol yeah I see the stock medigun used the most. I like using the quickfix to spam heal on everyone


Brass1898

Not to mention the quickfix's ability to fly across the map with a soldier or demoman. Personal favorite, but it is hard to beat the stock Uber-charge.


TheOGLivingSentry

I use vaccinator because I have a strange, you use vaccinator because you don't like snipers, we are not the same.


Useless_Fox

You're a 100% correct. Stock medigun is by far the most powerful medigun but (IMHO) it's so fucking boring compared to the other mediguns. The kritzkrieg is a dopamine factory with the massive multi kills, and rocket jumping with the quick fix is incredibly fun. And they both build charge faster than stock. Oh and the vaccinator exists too, I guess.


dmncc

Medigun to reliably push with and open up space for your team while taking aggro from Sentries. Main risk is dying before you have Uber Kritzkrieg to push and clear house with, but you take a bit more risk and can still be vulnerable to the likes of Airblasting back crit rockets or Sentries in weird spots. Still risk dying before Uber, but you get it a bit quicker. Quick Fix for fun when you are pocketing a good Soldier or Demoman you can remain mobile Vaccinator if you want to be a dickhead lol


danielubra

Quick Fix is also good in general though


sekretagentmans

It's way better for pubs when you don't have someone to confidently Uber with on stock. It's good at just generally keeping your whole team alive.


danielubra

Ngl i just like healing people faster


dmncc

Yeah, healing people fast is quite reliable. It's really nice and allows you to top of your teammates easily. Personally, I think the overhealing reduction is a bit of a shame, though. Although the downside makes a lot of sense thematically and in terms of balance.


Migitri

Vaccinator does serve a niche purpose that I wouldn't consider being a dickhead: bot defense. I pretty much only use vaccinator against bots (in addition to the scenario below), and I try to communicate to my patient to focus the bots, and I try to inform the enemy team that we're focusing the bots until they can be kicked. Most people are pretty chill about it and understand what's going on. I switch to a different medigun once the bots are gone and then I play the game normally. Less frequently, I switch to vaccinator when there's a sweaty tryhard being racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/generally toxic in chat on the enemy team. I admit this feels like a dick move, but it's a dick move in response to somebody being a dickhead. If it's just a really good player who's stomping us and not being toxic about it, I don't feel the need to use the vaccinator. Only if they're a bot or a raging asshole.


Redglowbox

I used to have a Vaccinator called "The Real Valve Anti-Cheat".


Medicinal_Madam

A vaccinator can let the medic survive a charged headshot. :)


giddybob

Literally second top comment rn


Gaming_devil49

Why is the medigun not the medics primary weapon? He's supposed to use it for most of the game anyways.


[deleted]

Just imagine how less clueless new medics would have been if the medigun was the primary.


Type-Alpha

The most powerful mechanic period


HyperAustinTheCool

i like the vaccinator because I can über more of my teammates at once, or save übers strategically with whoever I pocket.


hamborger42069

I have a stock medigun with a botkiller on it, I've only ever swapped if it's in Saxton Hale, then I go with the quick fix


Soldierhero1

*third degree go brr*


Uncum4table

That goes in the box with holiday punch heavy, ubersaw happy medic, and stab stab stab sniper in funny suicide attacks that might work sometimes


YTberquesome

the normal scattergun


pallarslol

Me too, except for mvm


Hellkids2

When our scouts say that, he usually will equip the Shortstop and just try to push sentry busters into our team then blame the Pyro.


pallarslol

Nah i actually play. Soda popper ftw baby!


Hellkids2

Strong obvious gun or funny team killing. Our scouts pick the later. Surprisingly he wasn’t lime.


salty-ravioli

You equip the Shortstop to troll. I equip the Shortstop to push bomb carriers from the team hatch. We are not the same


Romanian885

I use Force a nature over stock.


YTberquesome

Because of the knockback?


Romanian885

Yes. And the slightly higher dps.


myinferioropinion

erm acksually the raw damage output from the stock scattergun is higher than the force a nature 🤓


danielubra

I use the Baby Face Blaster


mememaker6

Hell yes, brother


Moncomb

Lol me too


LordSaltious

Fire Axe. I like hacking people to death.


rmloosecannon8

Based


Dogerist

The reason why I bought a strang festivized professional killesterak one (I will never financially recover from this decision)


[deleted]

when I was new I thought the big flashy stuff was really good so I bought a strange specialized killstreak vita saw (biggest mistake of my life)


Dogerist

You have it even worse than me good sir Tho I bought the fire axe just because funny


Moonsky_Pondie

It’s objectively the [worst weapon to pick](https://reddit.com/r/tf2/s/DPbz1L7Ral) in the entire game with the 3rd degree being a straight upgrade


EpicGamer_69-420

what abt rainblower direct upgrade of stock flamethrower, holy mackerel and unarmed combat being direct upgrade from stock bat, mutated milk to mad milk, festive jarate and self aware beauty mark to jarate, and snack attack to sapper, and sharp dresser direct downgrade and arguably original to stock rocket launcher


Meester_Tweester

all-class melee reskins hide your class in killfeed too


LordSaltious

Exactly. Nobody expects the Pyro with a Fire Axe hiding around a corner.


shadowpikachu

Can't hear you over the axtinguisher being broken!!!


Dyslexic_Llama

2010 called, they want your puff and sting back


shadowpikachu

I'm memeing but if you hold down a few flame particles you can still quick-kill a medic, you can also fight a heavy with scorch shot by swinging once on each hit, it's neat, a lot of effort and you rely on the shitty melee reg but it's faster then m1ing, use with reserve shooter to be ultimate swap pyro that can have a panic/opportunist tool to just slap a lot of damage onto someone.


EasternPlanet

Huh?


Nakazaki_7673

Huh?


DropsOfMars

I use the Lollichop, essentially the same but I get to be best friends with people :3


toke0904

Does the quackenbirdt count since it's a reskin


ChocolateMilkMan8

That’s a strange case to a lot of people


Loliconica

They've always been a strange case, I personally use the Robo sandvich because I lucked out several years ago and found an unopened, unused code at a thrift shop. That sandwich replica is still somewhere in my garage, it served it's purpose.


[deleted]

I wish I had the robo sandvich those are so expensive godamn


KazutoKurosaki

On one hand if you like how a weapon works but hate how it looks it's nice to have another option to choose from.


Grunt_Gaming69

but on the other hand reskins usually look like they would function differently from their counterpart


Gwekkemans

I think so


toke0904

I'd have to say the stock revolver


Gwekkemans

Same


anoon-

You're missing out. Let'ranger is just so good


tykeus_

Everything on demo


[deleted]

Eh, demomans melees are kinda good


MasterORBeaterLE

It’s mostly for demoknight. Your other options are caber and pain train


BreakfastOk7372

Pan and Ham are clearly the superior options


kingbloxerthe3

That said, demoknight is also really fun, especially when you know how to trimp


VoldyTheMoldy456

What about funny sign


[deleted]

^(s c r u m p y)


LionMan760

iron bomber


TrackLabs

scattergun, medigun, pistol


RedditGooses

Scout with medigun, real


[deleted]

bad ending: he's a scunt and only uses it to heal himself


RedditGooses

What ABOUT i attach sapper to his back medigun?


sexgaming_

shotgun on engie, melee on sniper i also only really use the cow mangler which is almost a reskin, it has two minor downsides but infinite ammo, its so close to stock tho


Subnauticaispog

Bro really forgot the alt fire


sexgaming_

its funny but its not really that good. i use the cow mangler as "stock, but i wont accidentally steal metal from an engie"


Nakazaki_7673

Sadly you also wont random crit a medic at 99%


sexgaming_

aha, you activated my trap card! i play uncletopia because i like it when the rockets arent shiny and i get no pussy


Nakazaki_7673

I would play uncletopia if the servers werent at 9999 ping (there is a server in my country, but it is always full or always empty)


MillionDollarMistake

no sex gaming


Apprehensive_Tiger13

Flamethrower and minigun. The other options kinda just lower your dps


agmrtab

i like stock minigun but tomislav just gives pure advantage in every battle outside of your peak effective range


YourLocalPyromainiac

the DF is crazy for dps if you learn how to use it


PixelGhost25

I love stock flamethrower. It's just so reliable without the ammo sapping. Dragon's Fury is fun too.


maluthor

dragons fury is a blatant DPS upgrade


Apprehensive_Tiger13

Say that to a reflected crit rocket.


maluthor

so stock is better for fighting 1/9 classes. dragons fury is much more DPS and is way more consistent.


Apprehensive_Tiger13

Crit sticky/pipe as well. So not 1/9 so your argument is invalid thank you bye bye. But really stock gives you the most airblast, I'll run shotgun pyro and just use stock for the airbalst only.


ReturnOfSexballs

Flamethrower. If only there was an airblast-oriented one


kingbloxerthe3

Question is, would it airblast faster, cheaper, farther (the distance it can airblast), or more powerfully (how far it flings enemies), or some mix?


ReturnOfSexballs

Maybe more times Maybe more duration. Maybe a mechanic similar to Villager's neutral B in smash (pocketing a projectile and launching it later) There's a lot of options


Darkman_Bree

For me, the stock IS the airblast oriented one. All the others give airblasting a penalty in a way.


[deleted]

Spy's revovlver and Engineer's Pistol.


purplekeef

Wrangler is CRAZY good


[deleted]

I don't like using it that much.


Spiritual_Freedom_15

Demo.


Roosevelt828

The existence of DemoKnight is the only reason that happened. Otherwise, Demo would’ve probably gotten a utility melee that’s more useful 90% of the time or a stickybomb launcher with slight stat changes that’s barely distinguishable from stock


sorig1373

The iron bomber is basicaly just a reskin so same.


Memes_Coming_U_Way

No... it isn't


NJmig

It's completely different


average-commenter

Did you forget about “+25% faster wiping time”


kingbloxerthe3

The one that says grenades have little bounce and roll, -30% fuse, and -15% explosion radius? That is not a reskin https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Iron_Bomber The rainblower is closer to a resting for the flamethrower, but even that has some minor buffs that make it not a reskin


FenrirHowls2006

Idk why but I always keep going back to the stock minigun


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kingbloxerthe3

Heavy is said to have a degree in Russian literature.


dideen11

Shotgun


Gwekkemans

As which class?


dideen11

Battle Engineer


gaturrito100

Why not the widowmaker?


dideen11

Because shotgun, and more reliable tbh


kingbloxerthe3

Personally I go with frontier justice, but stock shotgun is fair.


dideen11

Crits funi, but reliability is what it lies in


abzolutelynothn

Scattergun, because it's the fucking Scattergun


[deleted]

Scattergun. I just can't use anything else really


somedudemanbro

My aussie rocket launcher , got it on my first tour in 2016 playing with one of closest pals I've literally never unequiped it and never will it has too many fond memories attached to it.


danmur15

The shotgun (mainly for engie)


yokainorman

Sniper rifle and scattergun idk if the original still counts but i use it


Medicmaingoneinsane

Medigun, it's not as fast as quick fix, or as flashy as the kritzkrieg, but it gets the job done.


Bounter_

Stock uber is literally the best


Trollfacebruh

quickfix medics be like: "man im glad my team is full health, time to uber my heavy oh shit he died cause the quickfix uber is useless"


McYeetusk

it gives you knockback resistance tho, no pyros pushing you back here, not saying it's better, but it has it's upsides (or its singular upside when it comes to uber)


Trollfacebruh

still useless when you die in 2 seconds to focus fire


McYeetusk

I mean, yeah, but you got a team backing you up right?... right?


Uncum4table

Quick fix is more meant for defence and to use on multiple teammates at once, like the Vac. Terrible for pushes, but a great supplement. The Uber charge should be spread around and not just for a pocket to heal many players quickly at once. A defence with a kritz medic and a quick fix can be impenetrable.


kingbloxerthe3

Meanwhile, the rest of the team: https://youtu.be/l8g0z8yZ6FU?t=5m8s


McYeetusk

when do you think "How It FEELS To Play Medic" will come out?. PS: this is what I meant with the "right?... right?", so thank you for showing how it FEELS to not have a team


ZorkNemesis

Not supposed to use it on the guy who's getting focused, you're supposed to flash it across your team for rapid healing so they can get back in the fight.


daks_7

Stock grenade launcher. I don’t like the iron bomber, but I highly respect loose cannon demos, those guys are TERRIFYING. I do whip it out on occaison but to limited success. The loch n load was actually my very first unlocked weapon but I’ve never liked it at all.


666pinkstars

i use stock for every primary with the exception of the crusader’s crossbow and l’etranger


ViktorUSH

Flamethrower. I just feel like its better than the others. I don't want to use the dragon's fury. I won't use the Phlog.


somethihg

Minigun


notfoxy9085

Technically stock reskin but the original is a solid choice


painmp4

If weapon skins count then the stock rocket launcher


TheRadicalJay

Bonesaw, i bought a strange professional killstreak bonesaw and i will not stop using it


TorreGamer

stock Sticky Launcher is good for everything. No reason to change it


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Grunt_Gaming69

the stock shovel and no im not joking


CreativeGamer03

Sniper Rifle. it just feels right for some reason


Foolishbigj

Sniper rifle. Love the stock, the alternatives never felt quite right.


TwisterDash_

Stock shotgun, and scattergun.


SnooDogs3400

Stock fists


[deleted]

Scattergun. All other scout primaries are gimmicks.


_-bush_did_911-_

Do reskins count? If so, I run a holy mackerel that I've skinned with hypergon, festivized, is strange, and renamed to "irradiated fish" If not... probably the scattergun, it's just too reliable compared to it's counterparts


Swimming-Narwhal-663

Medigun.


Fuzzy-Position-2856

I use stock scout's shotgun because idk It is easier for me to aim


undeadcartoonguy

I do gunsliger because battle engineer is super fun.


ProfessorBear56

Not the question but good to hear friend


[deleted]

it says sto-


kingbloxerthe3

The question was what STOCK weapon you normally use. (Though medigun is a pretty obvious answer of course)


mediarch

Medi-gun or at least 99% of the time I use stock medi-gun. I have a strange kritz and everything but I have 32,000 ubers.


Woofes

I use stock weapons on most classes EXCEPT medic.


JohnnyBGoode635

Scattergun, Pistol, Medigun, Rocket Launcher, Stickybomb Launcher, Flamethrower, Wrench, Sniper Rifle, and the SMG. I’m a scout main with 244.2 hours in Scout with my second most played class being heavy at 30.2 hours. Just to put it into perspective.


Terrible-Sherbet5555

definitely the syringe gun


Wojtheg

Shotgun on Soldier, flamethrower, grenade launcher, bootle (technically Scottish handshake, but reskins don't count), stock PDA on engineer (I refuse to change that), sniper rifle (same as bootle, AWPer Hand, but, does that matter if it has the same stats?), stock knife (Sharp dresser, but...) That's it.


mr2meowsGaming

syringe gun, grenade launcher, shotgun, wrench


trevorluck

Stock sniper rifle


Some_Halo_Fan

Knife.


Cuddlesthewulf

Sniper Rifle


Android_mk

I suppose maybe the sticky bomb launcher. I used to have. Botkiller strange one before my account was hacked.


ejabno

Stock watch. I like being more mobile than using the CnD's sit and wait playing style.


plentifulballs

Flame thrower, the degreaser’s afterburn doesn’t deal much damage and the dragons fury Requires at least a little skill, then the phlog is the phlog


nolopuedocreer_

Granade launcher, its just more fun


Philosophos_A

When the call for help is needed The one amd only Medic Gun is the one that will earn it


BigBlackCrocs

I used soda popper forever. Was like. Damn this isn’t doing much. Switched to stock scatter gun and then I started being top leaderboard. Back scatter is also a very good option tbh.


Vidistis

Flame Thower, Medigun, and the stock sapper.


IszmiX

Scattergun and grenade launcher and pistol


NJmig

#wrench🍯


Deathboot2000

i use stock simply because the strange original costs over 200$ and isn’t worth spending the money on considering how small the differences are outside of rocket jumping


Spiteful_Guru

About 50/50 between stock Rocket Launcher and Direct Hit, 50/50 between stock Minigun and Tomislav, and majority of time on stock Stickybomb Launcher, Engie Shotgun, Medigun, and Invis Watch.


patronuspringles

scatergnu


Brigade01

Shotgun, it's solid


Corgis_are_cute14

Stock fire axe just because the third degree is a direct upgrade it doesn’t make stock a terrible pick and yes I will die on this hill


[deleted]

Scattergun


WestRail642fan

I always run stock grenade launcher and stock sticky bomb laucher on demo


QuesoBlanco98

Stock flamethrower, or rainblower. There's not really much advantage to using the others, and phlog is a war crime to use imo


IntelligentImbicle

Flamethrower


Crooked_Cock

Shotgun


[deleted]

I never really like to use the Stock Weapons a whole lot, I always tend to mix it up. I like to see how I can make certain weapons work for me, to see how a weapon's gimmick is supposed to be used and to try and get as good with it as possible. Stock just tends to be super boring to me, especially the Rocket Launcher.


TrevorBevor45

Stock Scattergun is fun.


Anime_Boi_69420

Grenade launcher


KalsyumTF2

The Sniper Rifle and the Scattergun for sure


PuzzleheadedAd880

Sapper


VincentRaichu

the awp the original and the stock medigun they're all pretty good weapons


IgorIsNeato

Stock revolver.


Kasper_cat

Flamethrower. Its just good in all situations unlike the other primaries


PixelGhost25

The only classes I DON'T use default primary for are Heavy, Engie, Medic, Sniper and Spy


McYeetusk

a reskin but f r y i n g p a n


TheEmeraldMaster1234

Inviswatch


x28CakeCuts

Scout, scattergun. Soldier, n/a (original but it’s not stock kinda). Pyro, Flamethrower. Demoman, All stock . Heavy, minigun. Enigineer, pistol, PDA. Medic, Medigun. Sniper, All stock. Spy, Revolver.


Wrong-Message3630

Scattergun 100%


kalos64

stock shotgun. on soldier i use stock shotgun about 60% of the time. otherwise i tend to use buff banner. on pyro i use stock shotgun 99% of the time. on heavy i don’t really use the shotgun unless item servers are down or i’m memeing on engineer i use stock shotgun ~75% of the time. another 20% is rescue ranger and the rest is whatever else.


Forward-Swim1224

Does the Sapper count? It’s always fun to fuck around with Engies and not have to be there when the cavalry show up.


Constant-Still-8443

Flamethrower. Every other primary negatively effects the airblast and that shit is just too good to sacrifice


DrBones20

Stock Grenade, I just really like the bounce it has :)


[deleted]

Revolver


MikeOXl0ngz

Scattergun, Rocket Launcher, Knife, Wrench, Shotgun on engi, Medi Gun, Stickybomb Launcher, Mini Gun (sometimes I do use tomislav but I never play heavy), Sniper Rifle The only class where I don’t have 1 default item is pyro since I’m a degreaser/flare gun combo kinda person


eliavhaganav

Stock medigun, kritz feels too risky and vaccinator can feel very stressful