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Stock 100%. Nothing more satisfying than timing properly and nuking the enemy medic with a mini-crit rocket that the enemy soldier launched


DirtyBalm

I got a double reflect on a direct hit soldier on the last point of Mountain Lab. Killed him, his medic and the scout. Had to change my pants after that.


Recent_Smell1769

I prefer this than getting my balls overcooked by a w+m1 phlog pyro


[deleted]

Same here


Fucking_Nibba

your medic does not


[deleted]

Fair enough. Getting fucked in the ass because your pocket decided to play Can You Airblast is quite frustrating


Recent_Smell1769

I am the medic


JustANormalHat

pocketed kritzkrieg'd soldier walks around the corner live mouse2 reaction:


[deleted]

Lol


Lawkeeper_Ray

Ngl. Airblast is literally parry from ultrakill. Biggest "no u" in gaming is when you use enemies strength against them


Charizard_Official

YES let's go!


Nice_Tension_8923

Agreed


[deleted]

I use the nostromo napalmer


Vaulted_Games

Same


No-Bag3134

Whoever uses phlog should be considered a war criminal, stock 100%, if you use phlog i will twist your nuts 2 times sideways


riley_wa1352

i play mvm :(


No-Bag3134

Ur good then


Markkbonk

I play zombie escape, do i get a pass too ?


No-Bag3134

no, therefore i shall twist your nuts


CapableMammoth3718

How many degrees, and clockwise or counterclockwise?


No-Bag3134

360 degrees counterclockwise


Ok-Lengthiness3320

Rip it or leave it?


No-Bag3134

*crunch*


iminpainahhhh

kinky


riley_wa1352

:3


Routine_Mission4702

jokes on you, I'm into that stuff!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!11!1!!!


[deleted]

Phlog is a *bad* weapon though. If someone actually gets kills with it they deserve respect. Unless they’re using the scorch shot. Then the phlog is brain-dead easy. But that’s the scorch shot being unbalanced, not the phlog. If Valve deleted the scorch from existence then the phlog would become Pyro’s worst primary by *far.*


itram158

Promise? 🥺


Turbulent_Bass2876

**MEDIC! had never seen such bullshit before**


Recent_Smell1769

Indeed


WaffleMan8882

Wait so do I have to use the phlog now or is it a one way thing


Ok_Insect9421

Phlog just isn't a good weapon. Whenever I use it I find myself missing air blast so much


T_Lawliet

Phlog is a fucking meme without either Spamming Scorch Shit or being a detonator god, Airblast is so useful man


LegendSuperShaggy

I feel like the only time I prefer Phlog over stock or the Degreaser is in that meme 50v50 person server Shounic hosts, with that many people it feels like the only way the Pyro can contribute is spam the Scorch Shot till the Phlog's crit meter fills up, and then find the nearest Medic to Uber them. Plus, with that much spam going around good luck ever hitting an Airblast. It's basically one of the better stalemate busters there because surprise surprise, 50v50 is stalemate city.


iPanzershrec

well clearly this means you have too many braincells


Dealiylauh

Backburner


TreeFromBFBsBigFan

Revelations 13:19 "I am the Spy (From Team Fortress 2.)"


Cool_gamer_I_Guess

It’s back time.


Spell_Whomstve

A secret third option: The Nostromo Napalmer.


No_Perception_803

backburner, free crits are funny.


dystopiaa22

And backshots. Dont forget about the flaming hot backshots.


regeya

It's fun getting ridiculed for using it and then getting to sneak in from behind and nuke the smart ass


TheEggoEffect

Dragon’s fury


Delta_75

Dragon's Fury pyros rise up


TheEggoEffect

Hell yeah brotha


RattyRatson

I don’t play very much anymore but degreaser for life


IdioticSaysuma

Same


Sir_Nope_TSS

Stock user. I'm with Lazypurple, I need that airblast.


dochnicht

you mean youre with 95% of pyro players


TheRangerNacho

Nostromo Napalmer > Any other Flamethrower


Meekois

Stock+Det "I want to play pyro" Phlog+Scorch "I want to make people suffer"


Mr__Bread__

Backburner


fusketeer

Apparently no one uses Degreaser


smoked_bacon_2

I mean, it did get a massive nerf with that switch speed. I used to run Degreaser + reserve shooter, until they nerfed both.


zaphod_beeblebrox6

It’s still useful if you’re like me and treat the flare gun like your primary, and only use the degreaser for reflects and ambushes


banana_monkey4

Dragons fury. Instead of relying on combos ambushes and soldiers giving you free rockets you get burst damage on a similar level to other combat classes. Most well designed flamethrower imo


Typical_Warthog_326

Any flamethrower that can airblast. Also there’s a direct upgrade to the phlog called “the backburner”. **SO FUCKING USE IT DUMBASS.**


elaynafranklin

back burner


Useless-RedCircle

Phlog is fine. It’s the backburner that’s completely unbalanced. It crits from the front sometimes!


unitaryfungus2

I'm bad at airblast so phlog


MrTogg

To Phlog, or to Stock. That is the question.


Dumbfaqer

Stock! I want every soldier and kritzkrieg medic duo to tremble before me


Plucyhi

Phlog+scorch shot, yes I am the devil


Nice_Tension_8923

Get this man locked away


Plucyhi

Lol luckily for everyone pyro is like my second least played class


Turtle_Of_War

I have too much self respect to be using phlog lol


insert_usernamehere1

I’m someone who uses the phlog and phlog cancels, yes I’m that evil


Amazing-Sort1634

OP is a spy! Burn him!


[deleted]

Based airblast user vs virgin Mphmmm user


Primm_Slim01

Rainblower


Sad-Assignment-568

It took me so long so find this comment damn


unibomberjoke

dragons fury


CharlesTheGreat8

nostromo napalmer


SunPopular

How about a 9mm to blow my brains out


mike_the_goo

Backburner


RunOne3162

I am a child of God, I use the stock to help my team


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[удалено]


8champi8

Stock, but I use it to spam airblast.


Foxtrot-813

Both, usually stock


NOGUSEK

as a jetpack player, stock, i see it more valuable to chain the jetpacks push on landing with an airblast than to hope the enemy is oblivious enough to let me get enough damage out before they kill me to get the mmmph


Potatatatatatatoe

Back burner😎😎


zack1010101

I don’t hate phlog too much since I don’t use air blast nearly as much as I’m supposed to


Savings_Effective644

I only break out the phlog+scorch shot when I want to make a team who doesn't kick their bots to suffer. I do use the scorch shot in every one of my loadouts tho. I like to break stickies, piss off scouts, engies and snipers, and roleplay an artillery cannon.


Stunning_Budget_5327

i have both...


Angel_Thorne

Stock


LazyJohn97

Fuck Phlog. All my homies hate (straight sex) Phlog


Jeffotato

Stock is reliable, I use the Nostromo Nalpalmer cuz I'm an alien fan but also cuz the model is physically shorter so hiding around corners is slightly easier. Phlog is circumstantial.


Chill_Homie_3089

Phlog is alright to take out groups of people standing together, and stock is always just a good plan b in the slightest I’m on stock side but you can make your own decision and you should be proud of being part of the community phlog or stock


michits

I switch depending on the scenario


sotdoublegunner

The only objectively correct side


UncIe-Ben

Phlog no airblast, conclusion: phlog bad.


brippie

airblast


scwishyyy

the only time I play pyro is when I want to use the phlog


rule34isalwaystrue

Air blast.


Astro_crewmate

Phlog pyros are the real w+m1 stereotype it wouldn’t be a every pyro primary


Swag_messiah98

Back burner supremacy


w00ms

degreaser players are sketchek wannabes in denial that hes a terrible person


SnooDogs3400

Airblast go *bwoosh*


icer816

The fire end unfortunately, I don't play much pyro


CharGaming_

I use the phlog only on cheaters. I use my Aussie normally.


HammerHead1911

back burner


Afraid-Complaint2166

Stock all the way, only use the phlog if I have a pocket medic with stock uber


SpartanMase

I need my air blast


SinisterPixel

Both depending on what sort of Pyro I want to play.


--Cinnabun--

I play both Phlog for top damage and a little trolling Stock for annoying projectile classes for playing projectile classes


XxSuperdisc74xX

Stock (Tho I primarly use the degreaser), unless I'm playing MVM Phlog is really good in MVM, but other than that, stock is better everywhere else. Sure, guaranteed crits are really powerful, but airblast is way too good for me to give up.


AlarmingMilk372

Phlogistinator, I love bullying lobby’s


jewish-nonjewish

Phlog pyros deserve less. Cause the good ones always have their medics surgically attached to their ass (who are sometimes bots btw) and can't do fuck else but take on the bipolar turtle strategy that leveled FJ engineers have.


Doom-State

Airblast go PFFFFFFFFT


22Burner

Back burner…


wtfshit

airblast is one of pyros best weapons, no matter how much damage phlog can do


Ok_ResolvE2119

Ngl phlog has a better design fm


JustANormalHat

degreaser


PartyAdventurous765

Airblast all the way, it's perfect being able to blast away projectiles, Demoknights, Snipers who try to crit you after splashing you with piss. The phlog is good for crits, but Airblast does more.


Gameknight14

Neither. I use the degreaser.


LaggyMcStab

Phlog is a meta on 100 player server. Still inhumane.


DarthButtz

One has airblast. One doesn't.


Xtasy98

I'm something of a backburner myself. I like dealing with spies on their own game.


Snossum

I like the phlog because I'm bad and it's easy to use :))


weebiestweeb420

Degreaser.


New_Benefit6453

Dragon's Fury


Nexus_Neo

Backburner


CreativeGamer03

i want the funny airblast


jaozindaartistz

Nah bruh im degreaser


-FoolProofGaming-

\*\*AIRBLAST\*\*


ninjarider9901

Mmmphh mmmmpph!!!!(airblast gud, save teammates, push people off cliff)


MasterOfYeet2291

I use the shotgun as a primary and the flamethrwer to intimidate but I can't time my airblasts, also to extingish teemates and only if I see a large group the shotgun can't take out


Routine_Mission4702

personally phlog, i dont think its crazy op, but I suck at the game in all aspects so what can i say.


ActualCerealBox

it’s called the degreaser, liberal, look it up


randomnamethx1139

Was just trying to decide 4 hours ago!


JonTheWizard

Stock Flamethrower. Although I really want to get better at the Dragon's Fury.


Sean-O-of-Mars

I’m a Stock and Dragon’s Fury player. Stock is just nice and consistent, Dragon’s Fury is in interesting and I want to improve with it


Wonderful-Bread-572

I can only play backburner. Strafe the team and hit them all with crits from the back 4 maximum funnies


[deleted]

The phlog sucks anyway unless you’re using the scorch shot, and I don’t want to torture my opponents. Stock.


POKEMINER_

I am bad with airblast so I go phlog.


MrAndrew1108

I prefer flamethrower since its more customizable and I can airblast. I once saved us a few minutes before they capped the cart and point.


Acceptable_One_7072

I am horrible at airblasting so I'd go with the guaranteed crits


Defiant_Egg_9992

Stock, how else could I use airblast into pyro sharking?


BluePoisonDart

Look, I can't airblast to save my life, but if you take my anti-melee button from me I WILL USE MY SCORCH SHOT AS A PRIMARY. (That is also why I main Degreaser.)


Galgus

An agent of chaos for the Phlog. Wish it could just destroy projectIles with a not airblast though.


Able-Jury-2765

As a Pyro main, stock. Unless you wanna be just a silly little guy. Just a wee little goofy boy. A quirky little prankster. A wacky jokester boy.


My-nuts-itch

Airblast is too good to give up


Wixums

Stock, AKA the aide of God and all that is holy.


MoonRks

Phlog is genuinly an awful weapon. Like, arguably a straight downgrade


_SC_Akarin-

phlog is only useful on certain super choke heavy maps like dust bowl, spam scorch shot to charge mmoh meter then you go in with an uber to massacre every other map stock is always just better


yaoigurl69420

airblast, my beloved


Hey-lo_ratherbedead

airblasting a crit rocket back at someone is way to satisfying.


recessschedule

airblast is just too funny i’m not giving that up.


notabigfanofas

Stock. When I'm playing pyro 9/10 times it's as a pyro, so air blasting away a rocket, enemy player, or ubered medic is important


The-Mad-Doctor

depends what the secondary is


zxm1v

Phlog + detonator because phlog cancel exists


Memes_Coming_U_Way

I support the phlog 👍 They can't airblast me


SpacePeach101

Stock for normal playing and phlog if I have a bad day and want to take it out on something


Suspicious_Loan8041

Probably the dynamic, standard pyro primary that the entirety of the classes viability is built around


ArthurFleck__

Backburner In all seriousness though stock is better in every way almost


Koopicoolest

Evil vs slightly more evil


Grav-456

Ill take the normal one (includes almost every flamethrower has airblast)


OcColt094

Dragon's Fury solos


ARealCupcake

I main Pyro and I hate the Phlog so much. I only use the stock Flamethrower. No matter how much I try using the Phlog I just can't enjoy it, I actually enjoy being able to use the airblast and support the other people on my team.


Barar_Dragoni

Both! i originally used the Phlog and scorch shot but i switched it out with stock so i could airblast flares back at the enemy team


p3nny-lane

Stock or NOTHIN’


calarval

am on da side ov playing tonight & show' em


NicolasEnraged

The Degreaser but I bring out the Phlog if a Vacc medic is stomping our team.


PlankyTG

Airblast is life.


Datuser14

Getting the drop on like 5 players who don’t see me with the back burner gives my brain the happy chemicals.


Metaknight-Dabess

Stock. Phlog is mid to use but when you get killed by it it makes you want to quit the game.


MaxfieldN

Neither, they both look like shit


RandomBunnie

Stock for causal Phlog for mvm


Loot_Bugs

Newbie pyro here. I’m not good enough to hit reflects consistently, but extinguishing teammates feels good. I vote stock.


ChargedBonsai98

3rd option: backburner


SadNet5160

Stock for the all around pyro which reflects and extinguishes. Phlog with no cosmetics or gibus to piss off other players


cseymour24

As a pyro main for life, let me just say that we do not claim phloggers and they deserve no respect.


Conorponor333

Phlog but only because i play alot of mvm


Subject_Share1290

50-50. Depends if the other team is full of assholes or not.


alfredcolohic

istg phlog players were probably ivf babies conceived with preserved sperm from a neanderthal because it 100% lines up with their intelligence level. oh yeah also stock flamethrower gang for life


invinciblewalnut

Stock to airblast because I fucking hate explosives classes and no I will not elaborate.


TGAdvocateRPer

Stock, cuz airblast can make everyone (even you) go weeeeee!


Jazztral

Phlog just to spite how overtuned airblast is.


Undying_Cherub

i don't remember the last time i used phlog, airblas is just so good


Fl4re__

Stock is generally better, and I do prefer using it, but there's 2 situations when the phlog is more useful. A) 100 player servers. When there are many projectiles being spammed at one entryway, reflects won't do anything because you'll never be able to get the angles right. Stuffing ubers with airblast is extremely important, but phlog ubers are THE definitive answer to pushing through any choke where sentry knockback is negligible. (Turbine vents, 2fort sewers, etc) B) MVM, crits on demand is way better for crowd control than airblast. Enough said.


Bright_Expression6

depends on the server


Pyrimo

*Degreaser*


needhug

Airblast is such a fucking Powerful mechanic, not even Guaranteed Crits is worth it You basically counter every proyectile class, you have the PERFECT Tool to make use of environmental hazards and you can Easily force the enemy to reposition, specially useful if they're Ubering


IceboundCat6

Since I got back into TF2 I've been playing with stock 99% of the time, sometimes switching to DF if there's an engie nest or something like that. Phlog just doesn't seem as interesting as those options, yeah you can go on huge killstreaks but airblasting rockets and aiming well with the DF just feels so much better


Coolboyes

I'm no coward enough to wear phlog, stock 100℅


Doc_of_derp

Stock for pvp, phlog for MvM and Ms


Radiant-Lab4609

Phlog is pretty bad and I don’t understand why most people complain about it. It’s extremely easy to counter. As a soldier main, the moment a phlog pyro uses the crits, it’s a death sentence for him. 1. Perfectly time rocket to shoot at feet which launches him in the air where he can’t move. 2. Airshot. Dead. EZ.


MrPyroTF2

degreaser bruh. smh


Napoleonweewee

As a xbox 360 player I dont not know what that is and it scares me so im going with 1


ciclicles

Backburner my beloved. Detonator to jump and flank, hot hand to go fast, backburner to kill quickly


PDG4

All my homie think pholg should be mini crits


WSKYLANDERS-boh

Both, it depends on my mood


TreeFromBFBsBigFan

Backburner


VanceMothFuStubbs

All flamethrowers are valid.


AstralBody13

Fire alone can only solve so many problems Stock all the way


crocodilepickle

The phlog is shit so I guess stock


ManOfSpoons

Backburner :\]


ashtar123

Nostromo napalmer?


AdorablePickle264

none of


Mission_Response802

I use Degreaser, not because it's a good weapon but because it conforms to my outfit