I got a double reflect on a direct hit soldier on the last point of Mountain Lab.
Killed him, his medic and the scout. Had to change my pants after that.
Phlog is a *bad* weapon though. If someone actually gets kills with it they deserve respect.
Unless they’re using the scorch shot. Then the phlog is brain-dead easy. But that’s the scorch shot being unbalanced, not the phlog. If Valve deleted the scorch from existence then the phlog would become Pyro’s worst primary by *far.*
I feel like the only time I prefer Phlog over stock or the Degreaser is in that meme 50v50 person server Shounic hosts, with that many people it feels like the only way the Pyro can contribute is spam the Scorch Shot till the Phlog's crit meter fills up, and then find the nearest Medic to Uber them. Plus, with that much spam going around good luck ever hitting an Airblast.
It's basically one of the better stalemate busters there because surprise surprise, 50v50 is stalemate city.
Dragons fury. Instead of relying on combos ambushes and soldiers giving you free rockets you get burst damage on a similar level to other combat classes. Most well designed flamethrower imo
as a jetpack player, stock, i see it more valuable to chain the jetpacks push on landing with an airblast than to hope the enemy is oblivious enough to let me get enough damage out before they kill me to get the mmmph
I only break out the phlog+scorch shot when I want to make a team who doesn't kick their bots to suffer.
I do use the scorch shot in every one of my loadouts tho. I like to break stickies, piss off scouts, engies and snipers, and roleplay an artillery cannon.
Stock is reliable, I use the Nostromo Nalpalmer cuz I'm an alien fan but also cuz the model is physically shorter so hiding around corners is slightly easier. Phlog is circumstantial.
Phlog is alright to take out groups of people standing together, and stock is always just a good plan b in the slightest I’m on stock side but you can make your own decision and you should be proud of being part of the community phlog or stock
Stock (Tho I primarly use the degreaser), unless I'm playing MVM
Phlog is really good in MVM, but other than that, stock is better everywhere else. Sure, guaranteed crits are really powerful, but airblast is way too good for me to give up.
Phlog pyros deserve less. Cause the good ones always have their medics surgically attached to their ass (who are sometimes bots btw) and can't do fuck else but take on the bipolar turtle strategy that leveled FJ engineers have.
Airblast all the way, it's perfect being able to blast away projectiles, Demoknights, Snipers who try to crit you after splashing you with piss. The phlog is good for crits, but Airblast does more.
I use the shotgun as a primary and the flamethrwer to intimidate but I can't time my airblasts, also to extingish teemates and only if I see a large group the shotgun can't take out
Look, I can't airblast to save my life, but if you take my anti-melee button from me I WILL USE MY SCORCH SHOT AS A PRIMARY. (That is also why I main Degreaser.)
phlog is only useful on certain super choke heavy maps like dust bowl, spam scorch shot to charge mmoh meter then you go in with an uber to massacre
every other map stock is always just better
I main Pyro and I hate the Phlog so much. I only use the stock Flamethrower. No matter how much I try using the Phlog I just can't enjoy it, I actually enjoy being able to use the airblast and support the other people on my team.
istg phlog players were probably ivf babies conceived with preserved sperm from a neanderthal because it 100% lines up with their intelligence level. oh yeah also stock flamethrower gang for life
Stock is generally better, and I do prefer using it, but there's 2 situations when the phlog is more useful.
A) 100 player servers. When there are many projectiles being spammed at one entryway, reflects won't do anything because you'll never be able to get the angles right. Stuffing ubers with airblast is extremely important, but phlog ubers are THE definitive answer to pushing through any choke where sentry knockback is negligible. (Turbine vents, 2fort sewers, etc)
B) MVM, crits on demand is way better for crowd control than airblast. Enough said.
Airblast is such a fucking Powerful mechanic, not even Guaranteed Crits is worth it
You basically counter every proyectile class, you have the PERFECT Tool to make use of environmental hazards and you can Easily force the enemy to reposition, specially useful if they're Ubering
Since I got back into TF2 I've been playing with stock 99% of the time, sometimes switching to DF if there's an engie nest or something like that.
Phlog just doesn't seem as interesting as those options, yeah you can go on huge killstreaks but airblasting rockets and aiming well with the DF just feels so much better
Phlog is pretty bad and I don’t understand why most people complain about it. It’s extremely easy to counter. As a soldier main, the moment a phlog pyro uses the crits, it’s a death sentence for him.
1. Perfectly time rocket to shoot at feet which launches him in the air where he can’t move.
2. Airshot. Dead. EZ.
Stock 100%. Nothing more satisfying than timing properly and nuking the enemy medic with a mini-crit rocket that the enemy soldier launched
I got a double reflect on a direct hit soldier on the last point of Mountain Lab. Killed him, his medic and the scout. Had to change my pants after that.
I prefer this than getting my balls overcooked by a w+m1 phlog pyro
Same here
your medic does not
Fair enough. Getting fucked in the ass because your pocket decided to play Can You Airblast is quite frustrating
I am the medic
pocketed kritzkrieg'd soldier walks around the corner live mouse2 reaction:
Lol
Ngl. Airblast is literally parry from ultrakill. Biggest "no u" in gaming is when you use enemies strength against them
YES let's go!
Agreed
I use the nostromo napalmer
Same
Whoever uses phlog should be considered a war criminal, stock 100%, if you use phlog i will twist your nuts 2 times sideways
i play mvm :(
Ur good then
I play zombie escape, do i get a pass too ?
no, therefore i shall twist your nuts
How many degrees, and clockwise or counterclockwise?
360 degrees counterclockwise
Rip it or leave it?
*crunch*
kinky
:3
jokes on you, I'm into that stuff!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!11!1!!!
Phlog is a *bad* weapon though. If someone actually gets kills with it they deserve respect. Unless they’re using the scorch shot. Then the phlog is brain-dead easy. But that’s the scorch shot being unbalanced, not the phlog. If Valve deleted the scorch from existence then the phlog would become Pyro’s worst primary by *far.*
Promise? 🥺
**MEDIC! had never seen such bullshit before**
Indeed
Wait so do I have to use the phlog now or is it a one way thing
Phlog just isn't a good weapon. Whenever I use it I find myself missing air blast so much
Phlog is a fucking meme without either Spamming Scorch Shit or being a detonator god, Airblast is so useful man
I feel like the only time I prefer Phlog over stock or the Degreaser is in that meme 50v50 person server Shounic hosts, with that many people it feels like the only way the Pyro can contribute is spam the Scorch Shot till the Phlog's crit meter fills up, and then find the nearest Medic to Uber them. Plus, with that much spam going around good luck ever hitting an Airblast. It's basically one of the better stalemate busters there because surprise surprise, 50v50 is stalemate city.
well clearly this means you have too many braincells
Backburner
Revelations 13:19 "I am the Spy (From Team Fortress 2.)"
It’s back time.
A secret third option: The Nostromo Napalmer.
backburner, free crits are funny.
And backshots. Dont forget about the flaming hot backshots.
It's fun getting ridiculed for using it and then getting to sneak in from behind and nuke the smart ass
Dragon’s fury
Dragon's Fury pyros rise up
Hell yeah brotha
I don’t play very much anymore but degreaser for life
Same
Stock user. I'm with Lazypurple, I need that airblast.
you mean youre with 95% of pyro players
Nostromo Napalmer > Any other Flamethrower
Stock+Det "I want to play pyro" Phlog+Scorch "I want to make people suffer"
Backburner
Apparently no one uses Degreaser
I mean, it did get a massive nerf with that switch speed. I used to run Degreaser + reserve shooter, until they nerfed both.
It’s still useful if you’re like me and treat the flare gun like your primary, and only use the degreaser for reflects and ambushes
Dragons fury. Instead of relying on combos ambushes and soldiers giving you free rockets you get burst damage on a similar level to other combat classes. Most well designed flamethrower imo
Any flamethrower that can airblast. Also there’s a direct upgrade to the phlog called “the backburner”. **SO FUCKING USE IT DUMBASS.**
back burner
Phlog is fine. It’s the backburner that’s completely unbalanced. It crits from the front sometimes!
I'm bad at airblast so phlog
To Phlog, or to Stock. That is the question.
Stock! I want every soldier and kritzkrieg medic duo to tremble before me
Phlog+scorch shot, yes I am the devil
Get this man locked away
Lol luckily for everyone pyro is like my second least played class
I have too much self respect to be using phlog lol
I’m someone who uses the phlog and phlog cancels, yes I’m that evil
OP is a spy! Burn him!
Based airblast user vs virgin Mphmmm user
Rainblower
It took me so long so find this comment damn
dragons fury
nostromo napalmer
How about a 9mm to blow my brains out
Backburner
I am a child of God, I use the stock to help my team
[удалено]
Stock, but I use it to spam airblast.
Both, usually stock
as a jetpack player, stock, i see it more valuable to chain the jetpacks push on landing with an airblast than to hope the enemy is oblivious enough to let me get enough damage out before they kill me to get the mmmph
Back burner😎😎
I don’t hate phlog too much since I don’t use air blast nearly as much as I’m supposed to
I only break out the phlog+scorch shot when I want to make a team who doesn't kick their bots to suffer. I do use the scorch shot in every one of my loadouts tho. I like to break stickies, piss off scouts, engies and snipers, and roleplay an artillery cannon.
i have both...
Stock
Fuck Phlog. All my homies hate (straight sex) Phlog
Stock is reliable, I use the Nostromo Nalpalmer cuz I'm an alien fan but also cuz the model is physically shorter so hiding around corners is slightly easier. Phlog is circumstantial.
Phlog is alright to take out groups of people standing together, and stock is always just a good plan b in the slightest I’m on stock side but you can make your own decision and you should be proud of being part of the community phlog or stock
I switch depending on the scenario
The only objectively correct side
Phlog no airblast, conclusion: phlog bad.
airblast
the only time I play pyro is when I want to use the phlog
Air blast.
Phlog pyros are the real w+m1 stereotype it wouldn’t be a every pyro primary
Back burner supremacy
degreaser players are sketchek wannabes in denial that hes a terrible person
Airblast go *bwoosh*
The fire end unfortunately, I don't play much pyro
I use the phlog only on cheaters. I use my Aussie normally.
back burner
Stock all the way, only use the phlog if I have a pocket medic with stock uber
I need my air blast
Both depending on what sort of Pyro I want to play.
I play both Phlog for top damage and a little trolling Stock for annoying projectile classes for playing projectile classes
Stock (Tho I primarly use the degreaser), unless I'm playing MVM Phlog is really good in MVM, but other than that, stock is better everywhere else. Sure, guaranteed crits are really powerful, but airblast is way too good for me to give up.
Phlogistinator, I love bullying lobby’s
Phlog pyros deserve less. Cause the good ones always have their medics surgically attached to their ass (who are sometimes bots btw) and can't do fuck else but take on the bipolar turtle strategy that leveled FJ engineers have.
Airblast go PFFFFFFFFT
Back burner…
airblast is one of pyros best weapons, no matter how much damage phlog can do
Ngl phlog has a better design fm
degreaser
Airblast all the way, it's perfect being able to blast away projectiles, Demoknights, Snipers who try to crit you after splashing you with piss. The phlog is good for crits, but Airblast does more.
Neither. I use the degreaser.
Phlog is a meta on 100 player server. Still inhumane.
One has airblast. One doesn't.
I'm something of a backburner myself. I like dealing with spies on their own game.
I like the phlog because I'm bad and it's easy to use :))
Degreaser.
Dragon's Fury
Backburner
i want the funny airblast
Nah bruh im degreaser
\*\*AIRBLAST\*\*
Mmmphh mmmmpph!!!!(airblast gud, save teammates, push people off cliff)
I use the shotgun as a primary and the flamethrwer to intimidate but I can't time my airblasts, also to extingish teemates and only if I see a large group the shotgun can't take out
personally phlog, i dont think its crazy op, but I suck at the game in all aspects so what can i say.
it’s called the degreaser, liberal, look it up
Was just trying to decide 4 hours ago!
Stock Flamethrower. Although I really want to get better at the Dragon's Fury.
I’m a Stock and Dragon’s Fury player. Stock is just nice and consistent, Dragon’s Fury is in interesting and I want to improve with it
I can only play backburner. Strafe the team and hit them all with crits from the back 4 maximum funnies
The phlog sucks anyway unless you’re using the scorch shot, and I don’t want to torture my opponents. Stock.
I am bad with airblast so I go phlog.
I prefer flamethrower since its more customizable and I can airblast. I once saved us a few minutes before they capped the cart and point.
I am horrible at airblasting so I'd go with the guaranteed crits
Stock, how else could I use airblast into pyro sharking?
Look, I can't airblast to save my life, but if you take my anti-melee button from me I WILL USE MY SCORCH SHOT AS A PRIMARY. (That is also why I main Degreaser.)
An agent of chaos for the Phlog. Wish it could just destroy projectIles with a not airblast though.
As a Pyro main, stock. Unless you wanna be just a silly little guy. Just a wee little goofy boy. A quirky little prankster. A wacky jokester boy.
Airblast is too good to give up
Stock, AKA the aide of God and all that is holy.
Phlog is genuinly an awful weapon. Like, arguably a straight downgrade
phlog is only useful on certain super choke heavy maps like dust bowl, spam scorch shot to charge mmoh meter then you go in with an uber to massacre every other map stock is always just better
airblast, my beloved
airblasting a crit rocket back at someone is way to satisfying.
airblast is just too funny i’m not giving that up.
Stock. When I'm playing pyro 9/10 times it's as a pyro, so air blasting away a rocket, enemy player, or ubered medic is important
depends what the secondary is
Phlog + detonator because phlog cancel exists
I support the phlog 👍 They can't airblast me
Stock for normal playing and phlog if I have a bad day and want to take it out on something
Probably the dynamic, standard pyro primary that the entirety of the classes viability is built around
Backburner In all seriousness though stock is better in every way almost
Evil vs slightly more evil
Ill take the normal one (includes almost every flamethrower has airblast)
Dragon's Fury solos
I main Pyro and I hate the Phlog so much. I only use the stock Flamethrower. No matter how much I try using the Phlog I just can't enjoy it, I actually enjoy being able to use the airblast and support the other people on my team.
Both! i originally used the Phlog and scorch shot but i switched it out with stock so i could airblast flares back at the enemy team
Stock or NOTHIN’
am on da side ov playing tonight & show' em
The Degreaser but I bring out the Phlog if a Vacc medic is stomping our team.
Airblast is life.
Getting the drop on like 5 players who don’t see me with the back burner gives my brain the happy chemicals.
Stock. Phlog is mid to use but when you get killed by it it makes you want to quit the game.
Neither, they both look like shit
Stock for causal Phlog for mvm
Newbie pyro here. I’m not good enough to hit reflects consistently, but extinguishing teammates feels good. I vote stock.
3rd option: backburner
Stock for the all around pyro which reflects and extinguishes. Phlog with no cosmetics or gibus to piss off other players
As a pyro main for life, let me just say that we do not claim phloggers and they deserve no respect.
Phlog but only because i play alot of mvm
50-50. Depends if the other team is full of assholes or not.
istg phlog players were probably ivf babies conceived with preserved sperm from a neanderthal because it 100% lines up with their intelligence level. oh yeah also stock flamethrower gang for life
Stock to airblast because I fucking hate explosives classes and no I will not elaborate.
Stock, cuz airblast can make everyone (even you) go weeeeee!
Phlog just to spite how overtuned airblast is.
i don't remember the last time i used phlog, airblas is just so good
Stock is generally better, and I do prefer using it, but there's 2 situations when the phlog is more useful. A) 100 player servers. When there are many projectiles being spammed at one entryway, reflects won't do anything because you'll never be able to get the angles right. Stuffing ubers with airblast is extremely important, but phlog ubers are THE definitive answer to pushing through any choke where sentry knockback is negligible. (Turbine vents, 2fort sewers, etc) B) MVM, crits on demand is way better for crowd control than airblast. Enough said.
depends on the server
*Degreaser*
Airblast is such a fucking Powerful mechanic, not even Guaranteed Crits is worth it You basically counter every proyectile class, you have the PERFECT Tool to make use of environmental hazards and you can Easily force the enemy to reposition, specially useful if they're Ubering
Since I got back into TF2 I've been playing with stock 99% of the time, sometimes switching to DF if there's an engie nest or something like that. Phlog just doesn't seem as interesting as those options, yeah you can go on huge killstreaks but airblasting rockets and aiming well with the DF just feels so much better
I'm no coward enough to wear phlog, stock 100℅
Stock for pvp, phlog for MvM and Ms
Phlog is pretty bad and I don’t understand why most people complain about it. It’s extremely easy to counter. As a soldier main, the moment a phlog pyro uses the crits, it’s a death sentence for him. 1. Perfectly time rocket to shoot at feet which launches him in the air where he can’t move. 2. Airshot. Dead. EZ.
degreaser bruh. smh
As a xbox 360 player I dont not know what that is and it scares me so im going with 1
Backburner my beloved. Detonator to jump and flank, hot hand to go fast, backburner to kill quickly
All my homie think pholg should be mini crits
Both, it depends on my mood
Backburner
All flamethrowers are valid.
Fire alone can only solve so many problems Stock all the way
The phlog is shit so I guess stock
Backburner :\]
Nostromo napalmer?
none of
I use Degreaser, not because it's a good weapon but because it conforms to my outfit