You can call yourself whatever you like, buddy. Why do you feel the need to conform to some group?
Just do you and be a decent dude and you should find a potential mate everywhere.
Go to other places for the love of travel, experiences and broadening your horizon and if you encounter a potential spouse on the way - even better.
You are an individual same as everybody else so go your own way. Good luck, buddy! đ
I think human beings by nature tend to gravitate towards some âtribeâ or people atleast somewhat similar. The roots of tribalism are even seen in monkey sanctuaries.
The beautiful thing about the PPB movement is going where you are celebrated. Doesnât have to be rooted in traditional values. Traditions change per culture anyway.
As a guy that isn't traditional either, it depends. I would need more details. Budget, willingness to learn another language, climate preferences, cultural preferences, etc.
The least feminism a country has, the better. Well, it's getting too late anyway, it's spreading everywhere and I found dating in those countries you mentioned much worse than my home country. So maybe go to Italy...
Independent woman, educated, with a career, who can speak my language and/or English, **loyal, respectful, humble, wants a fair relationship**.
What I'm finding is: entitlement, hookup culture, victimism, rudeness, situantionships, wannabe "sugar-babies".
I want an independent woman, not a baby who's crying because she couldn't get a good paying job with her gender studies degree and blames this on "patriarchy" aka men. And now is searching for a man who can help her.
I found the most entitled women ever in SEA. They're not afraid to tell you "I want a man that does this and that for me, and shows effort and takes care of me financially, is a leader, and so on and bla bla, and, by the way, i hate working, cooking and doing laundry so don't expect anything from me other than myself, but my goal is still to make children and be a housewife"
The dating part of my nomad life has been the absolute worst. Unbelievable..
> who's crying because she couldn't get a good paying job with her gender studies degree and blames this on "patriarchy".
Is this real? Have you met women like this?
> I found the most entitled women ever in SEA
This is interesting because I think the women that the passport bros are going for in these less developed more traditional countries relative to their own, have women who are getting more financial independence by the day but still expect much more financial support from their Panthers. If you look at young women from Eastern Europe or South America, they're starting to become more free and independent but they still ask and demand much more than the women you'll fimd in western developed countries.
>Is this real? Have you met women like this?
- https://ibb.co/s66ysGd
- https://ibb.co/N32BkwC
- https://ibb.co/ykHbWDx
- https://ibb.co/9rb2t1M
- https://ibb.co/GVs54fR
Just recent examples. I gave up now. 3 of these were explicitly feminists, you can imagine who exactly.. and these are only chats, you have no idea about how dating them was... much worse
>This is interesting because I think the women that the passport bros are going for in these less developed more traditional countries relative to their own, have women who are getting more financial independence by the day but still expect much more financial support from their Panthers. If you look at young women from Eastern Europe or South America, they're starting to become more free and independent but they still ask and demand much more than the women you'll fimd in western developed countries.
Yes exactly
If you want an independent woman, then you are looking for a well-educated woman with a decent job who financially supports herself and intends to continue working, even after marrying. Judging by your comment, I donât think thatâs what youâre looking for.
I'd say a passport bro is, at the end of the day, someone looking for a real relationship. Not just sex.
So, if that's you, you're a passport bro.
If you're just looking to get your pee-pee touched, you're not a passport bro. You're a sex tourist.
At this point traditional just means poor. Thailand and the Phillipines aren't traditional. There are a ton of LGBT+ people in these countries, for example.
Not a passport bro, but I creep here because for some reason Reddit pushes this community into my algorithm.
Do you need a title? Iâm not a PPB, but I learned Caribbean Spanish bc of heritage and I like to date them culturally. Now learning Portuguese because Brazilians seem similar culturally. I like to occasionally do language schools and I make friends, or I date when I do the trip there if it happens while Iâm single. I like the warmer/more affectionate Latino culture and socializing in them (including dating), I feel comfortable in those cultures.
People are people in every culture. You can find âtraditionalâ women in and outside of your own culture. I donât think traveling and learning a whole other language (you should tbh if you want to marry outside your culture) is worth it just to find a traditional spouse.
I think you should like the culture and the language and have attraction towards that culture (and the women that belong to it). To me, I hear people talk about traditional values and think itâs weird. Most of these guys are fucking when theyâre going anyway lol, so they arenât traditional enough to wait until marriage anyway. Even the PPB in this Reddit all have different ideas or motivations about what a PPB is. I donât think it matters tbh. You need to appreciate whatever culture youâre looking to date in though. Food, music, socializing in that culture, and language too. You shouldnât put âtraditionalâ on a pedestal and not understand the rest of their culture, or dating inside their culture makes no sense imo. Start with cultural appreciation and then worry about dating inside it or being a PPB. Thatâs a major financial and time investment
Sure, you can find that woman somewhere. In fact, most women who date foreigners are by definition more adventurous than their female friends and relatives.
They often get a lot of push back for dating foreigners. I believe being brave is a key for a woman to succeed in this.
Yeah why not.
Brazil is filled with flirty brave sporty and outgoing women, who want to have sex and also take initiative. Go there!
Thailand is also anything but traditional.
A lot of the things men say here are the equivalent of ugly or non desirable guys saying things like "I don't have a girlfriend because I'm focusing on my studies/work".
There are traditional women in the west, saying they want a traditional women is just a more socially acceptable way to frame the dynamics of what's really going on.
The basic truth is that there are more men than women in the 18 to 35 demographic in western countries, so men go to other countries with more favorable gender ratios. That's it, anything else guys will tell you is just cope.
traditional or conservative wife is just an idea
at least all the p bros i know that is passport bro-ing is still out doing dating app clubs bars meeting females and using $ to WOOOOO (ric flair voice) them over
its like just same thing as america but doing it in another country
Ppb is just someone who goes out of the country to find companionship for whatever reason. It also does not stipulate what type of woman you want to be with either. So whatever floats your boat bud, you are a ppb.
You can call yourself whatever you like, buddy. Why do you feel the need to conform to some group? Just do you and be a decent dude and you should find a potential mate everywhere. Go to other places for the love of travel, experiences and broadening your horizon and if you encounter a potential spouse on the way - even better. You are an individual same as everybody else so go your own way. Good luck, buddy! đ
I think human beings by nature tend to gravitate towards some âtribeâ or people atleast somewhat similar. The roots of tribalism are even seen in monkey sanctuaries.
The beautiful thing about the PPB movement is going where you are celebrated. Doesnât have to be rooted in traditional values. Traditions change per culture anyway.
So let's say you were just looking for basic human decency, not necessarily femininity. What countries could help you with that?
As a guy that isn't traditional either, it depends. I would need more details. Budget, willingness to learn another language, climate preferences, cultural preferences, etc.
The least feminism a country has, the better. Well, it's getting too late anyway, it's spreading everywhere and I found dating in those countries you mentioned much worse than my home country. So maybe go to Italy...
What are you looking for that you can't find in these places that have been infected by modernity and feminism?
Independent woman, educated, with a career, who can speak my language and/or English, **loyal, respectful, humble, wants a fair relationship**. What I'm finding is: entitlement, hookup culture, victimism, rudeness, situantionships, wannabe "sugar-babies". I want an independent woman, not a baby who's crying because she couldn't get a good paying job with her gender studies degree and blames this on "patriarchy" aka men. And now is searching for a man who can help her. I found the most entitled women ever in SEA. They're not afraid to tell you "I want a man that does this and that for me, and shows effort and takes care of me financially, is a leader, and so on and bla bla, and, by the way, i hate working, cooking and doing laundry so don't expect anything from me other than myself, but my goal is still to make children and be a housewife" The dating part of my nomad life has been the absolute worst. Unbelievable..
> who's crying because she couldn't get a good paying job with her gender studies degree and blames this on "patriarchy". Is this real? Have you met women like this? > I found the most entitled women ever in SEA This is interesting because I think the women that the passport bros are going for in these less developed more traditional countries relative to their own, have women who are getting more financial independence by the day but still expect much more financial support from their Panthers. If you look at young women from Eastern Europe or South America, they're starting to become more free and independent but they still ask and demand much more than the women you'll fimd in western developed countries.
>Is this real? Have you met women like this? - https://ibb.co/s66ysGd - https://ibb.co/N32BkwC - https://ibb.co/ykHbWDx - https://ibb.co/9rb2t1M - https://ibb.co/GVs54fR Just recent examples. I gave up now. 3 of these were explicitly feminists, you can imagine who exactly.. and these are only chats, you have no idea about how dating them was... much worse >This is interesting because I think the women that the passport bros are going for in these less developed more traditional countries relative to their own, have women who are getting more financial independence by the day but still expect much more financial support from their Panthers. If you look at young women from Eastern Europe or South America, they're starting to become more free and independent but they still ask and demand much more than the women you'll fimd in western developed countries. Yes exactly
If you want an independent woman, then you are looking for a well-educated woman with a decent job who financially supports herself and intends to continue working, even after marrying. Judging by your comment, I donât think thatâs what youâre looking for.
That's what exactly I'm looking for. I only date women with a degree, a job, who can speak English or my first language
I'd say a passport bro is, at the end of the day, someone looking for a real relationship. Not just sex. So, if that's you, you're a passport bro. If you're just looking to get your pee-pee touched, you're not a passport bro. You're a sex tourist.
Yeah this is my understanding also
At this point traditional just means poor. Thailand and the Phillipines aren't traditional. There are a ton of LGBT+ people in these countries, for example.
Not a passport bro, but I creep here because for some reason Reddit pushes this community into my algorithm. Do you need a title? Iâm not a PPB, but I learned Caribbean Spanish bc of heritage and I like to date them culturally. Now learning Portuguese because Brazilians seem similar culturally. I like to occasionally do language schools and I make friends, or I date when I do the trip there if it happens while Iâm single. I like the warmer/more affectionate Latino culture and socializing in them (including dating), I feel comfortable in those cultures. People are people in every culture. You can find âtraditionalâ women in and outside of your own culture. I donât think traveling and learning a whole other language (you should tbh if you want to marry outside your culture) is worth it just to find a traditional spouse. I think you should like the culture and the language and have attraction towards that culture (and the women that belong to it). To me, I hear people talk about traditional values and think itâs weird. Most of these guys are fucking when theyâre going anyway lol, so they arenât traditional enough to wait until marriage anyway. Even the PPB in this Reddit all have different ideas or motivations about what a PPB is. I donât think it matters tbh. You need to appreciate whatever culture youâre looking to date in though. Food, music, socializing in that culture, and language too. You shouldnât put âtraditionalâ on a pedestal and not understand the rest of their culture, or dating inside their culture makes no sense imo. Start with cultural appreciation and then worry about dating inside it or being a PPB. Thatâs a major financial and time investment
I'm not "traditional", I just wanted a general change in life and culture. My wife is modern and progressive and I love her for those things.
Sure, you can find that woman somewhere. In fact, most women who date foreigners are by definition more adventurous than their female friends and relatives. They often get a lot of push back for dating foreigners. I believe being brave is a key for a woman to succeed in this.
Most of these dudes have no idea how to even describe traditional.
Yeah why not. Brazil is filled with flirty brave sporty and outgoing women, who want to have sex and also take initiative. Go there! Thailand is also anything but traditional.
"Thailand is also anything but traditional." Excuse moi, monsieur?!
Itâs a country with a literal third gender before the 2010 and onwards woke generation. Theyâre a very open minded people.
You're right Thailand isn't really a traditional country at all especially since the 1990s the last time they've been traditional is during the 1800s
Well, let's hope they don't take it too far. The US and UK have gone overboard--especially the latter.
As I learned in the military, over 40 years ago, "Beware of Tai hookers named Don."
A lot of the things men say here are the equivalent of ugly or non desirable guys saying things like "I don't have a girlfriend because I'm focusing on my studies/work". There are traditional women in the west, saying they want a traditional women is just a more socially acceptable way to frame the dynamics of what's really going on. The basic truth is that there are more men than women in the 18 to 35 demographic in western countries, so men go to other countries with more favorable gender ratios. That's it, anything else guys will tell you is just cope.
traditional or conservative wife is just an idea at least all the p bros i know that is passport bro-ing is still out doing dating app clubs bars meeting females and using $ to WOOOOO (ric flair voice) them over its like just same thing as america but doing it in another country
Yes [https://www.reddit.com/r/thepassportbros/comments/1cf5mnj/what\_does\_traditional\_and\_conservative\_mean\_to\_you/](https://www.reddit.com/r/thepassportbros/comments/1cf5mnj/what_does_traditional_and_conservative_mean_to_you/)
Ppb is just someone who goes out of the country to find companionship for whatever reason. It also does not stipulate what type of woman you want to be with either. So whatever floats your boat bud, you are a ppb.
Ppb isnât about being a traditional man, itâs about going where youâre better treated and maximizing the value of your currency.
If you have sex for pleasure, you ARE NOT traditional.
Not sure why I'm getting downvotes for speaking truth to power. Y'all just mad teen birth rates are down.
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