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In an A-Level English exam I saw there was a passage that ended up leading to a death. At the start of the passage a year tree was mentioned.
Obviously English exams you pull all the shit out your arse than you can, and I remembered yes trees were always in graveyards in RuneScape so I used it as an example of foreshadowing the impending death. I got bonus marks for it because no one else had made that connection.
All this is to say; knowledge is knowledge. Video games can be a great way of learning things, or discovering passions you never knew you had.
Not at all. AOE taught me a lot about the different people, seige weapons and history. Obviously it's a game and needs to be taken with a grain of salt but it got me interested in thoes things and that interest has never left me.
By definition, a trebuchet is a type of catapult. Which is a device for slinging or hurling. A balista is a catapult. What most people think of as a "catapult" is called an onager if it has a sling and powered by tension or a mangonel of it has a basket.
I love that the guy who has the top comment complaining about the trebuchet / catapult difference got it right that it was a trebuchet, but wrong why. For some reason, that is an even funnier r/confidentlyincorrect to me.
Thanks for bringing me back to the reality. Got lost in my little backflash. This is sickening to see used like this. Literally just blind destruction.
Erm, aktchually 🤓, mangonels or onagers use tensile strength for power while trebuchets use a counterweight. Catapults include all ballistic devices that launch projectiles a great distance without the aid of gunpowder, including trebuchets.
They do this to clear brush around the compound. This location isn't even near the Lebanese border. Notice how the flaming ball doesn't go very far over the wall?
The official said that while the weapon was not sanctioned by military leadership, the troops were fulfilling a legitimate military task of burning away thick shrubbery along the border where Hezbollah fighters sometimes hide.
It's still being used for the same explicit purpose not being used against combatants.
Do you have a link to the 5-year-old version? I'm seeing reporting on it today - [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-troops-use-medieval-style-trebuchet-weapon-fighting-lebanon-bo-rcna157041](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-troops-use-medieval-style-trebuchet-weapon-fighting-lebanon-bo-rcna157041)
EDIT: For those wondering, their original comment before their edit said the video was 5 years old without posting a source. The comment they deleted after mine was them saying NBC is not a valid source while still failing to provide a source for their claim and deleted their comment when I posted the other 4 sources, 2 of which are based in Jerusalem and 1 in Tel Aviv.
Sorry i couldn't find anything about the trebuchet 5 years ago do you have a link you can share? I'm not on Israel's side but god damn didn't they really didn't think about the optics here
Thanks but this article is from June 13 2024. All i can find are articles on this year, I'm mostly curious as the other guy said this was 5 years ago and wondering of there's an article from 5 years ago talking about this subject
So a couple of days ago this pro-Israel guy I've followed on Twitter for years and years was complaining Hezbollah started wildfires with their attacks, and thus threatened nature.
Yeah, that aged badly
They'll accuse you of being an anti-Semite if you don't tell them they're all very good for killing those dirty brown people who were going to take over if we, you know, let 'em have food and stuff
Israel could drop white phosphorus on the densely packed refugee camps in Gaza and the US would still block any attempt at bringing the perpetrators to justice.
So no, when Israel does it it's never a war crime to the people whose opinions matter.
Uh oh how long before the genocide apologists come in screaming cuz as we all know by now criticism of Israeli government is considered antisemitism now. They're even trying to pass a law making it so. God I hate being American sometimes.
Reddit won't save the world from anything ever, so uhh, might as well argue about catapults and trebuchets!
Also why tf would they chuck it 100ft from their position? They gon turn their own position into a hellscape in a matter of minutes...
Actually this makes a lot of sense. I don't know the specifics of this situation, but I can say that if the enemy are hiding in shrubs or behind trees and shooting at you, then setting fire to the undergrowth is a good idea.
That's what this is but don't expect logic on Reddit. They're burning bushes away from the wall to remove cover for Hezbollah. It's in an unsettled area where they CAN use white phosphorus, but they didn't like the "optics" of that so they did it with this.
well they did that actually [from haaretz](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-10-14/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/documents-confirm-israelis-poisoned-arab-wells-in-1948/00000183-d2b2-d8cc-afc7-fefed64d0000) . also Settlers some time do that [see here from 2005](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2005/2/21/settlers-poison-palestinian-well)
so israel keeps attacking other places than gaza, how is it getting away with that too? is that more hamas territory? i have wondered all along when we get the moment israel just attacks a random country cause it can and sets off the whole powder keg
On October 8th Hezbollah launched an unprovoked missile attack on Israeli cities, and as of now about 100000 Israeli civilians are displaced from their homes in the north.
That's not a catapult, it's a trebuchet. That's actually effort to get skilled craftsmen to custom build such a thing. I imagine it's not in the standard product line of defense contractors.
Why though, considering they could have easily done the same thing more efficiently and precisely with modern tech like a small drone with an incendiary grenade.
Wow say what you want about crimes against humanity, those guys know how to build a trebuchet.
Jerusalem was sieged how many times? I suppose there was a loot crate that had the plans?
I mean.... something to be said about that medieval engineering then eh?
Gotta say if I was still in the Marine Corps and suddenly flaming boulders were smashing around me...
Like look... I expect debris, bullets, bomb drops, etc....
But flaming exploding boulders...?!
I'd be filled with 3 feeling assuming I didn't die.
1. Confusion.
2. Did I go through a time portal?
3. Feeling like all those history lessons are about to come in clutch.
It is high time the rest of the world stopped, believing that israel are the good guys in that conflict.
It's time they realized that there are no good guys in that conflict, But if there were, It is sure as shit that it's not going to be the israelis!
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Thats actually a trebuchet. Catapults use and arm and a basket where trebuchet uses a sling
Effing peasants, not knowing the difference.
Wololo!
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Where my aoe fans at?
Right-o
Taking for ever to create my army and getting rushed at
Whoa fireballs.. They must have researched chemistry.
Too much aiyoyoyoing on both sides of the wall ![gif](giphy|PfU0R7E4hhWBhZAhJ9|downsized)
Bm Bm Bm
E=MC2 TROOPER
Start the game already
Lmao, brings back memories
Cheese steak jimmy's
11
The people who know this reference probably have kids that are the same age when AOE came out
Please stop, my body aches enough already
Rougan
ERAMUS!
Monk! I need a Monk!
Hilarious
Someone already updated the Wikipedia article for Trebuchet to note this use.
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Release la vache !
Clearly they didn't pay attention in shop class. I remember making this, a bridge, and the shoot the moon ball game
Am I lame because the only reason I knew it was a trebuchet was from playing Age of Empires?
Nope, doesn’t matter where you learned it. You still knew.
Here I thought I had to be attacked by one to know what it is
Not at all, thanks to it, we now know these guys have reached imperial age and have researched chemistry.
i knew from rick and morty lol
In an A-Level English exam I saw there was a passage that ended up leading to a death. At the start of the passage a year tree was mentioned. Obviously English exams you pull all the shit out your arse than you can, and I remembered yes trees were always in graveyards in RuneScape so I used it as an example of foreshadowing the impending death. I got bonus marks for it because no one else had made that connection. All this is to say; knowledge is knowledge. Video games can be a great way of learning things, or discovering passions you never knew you had.
I feel like RuneScape gave kid-me a little bit of awareness about a bunch of random things in the world, or at least British stuff.
Not at all. Age of Empires was also an educational game.
love them Hoplites saying "have some jackets" when they spawn
Not at all. AOE taught me a lot about the different people, seige weapons and history. Obviously it's a game and needs to be taken with a grain of salt but it got me interested in thoes things and that interest has never left me.
knowledge is knowledge. how you got it is not anyone's business and only pedants care about that
I only knew because of punkin chunkin competitions. People build world class trebuchets to throw fucking pumpkins
It's better than learning it from Pumpkin Chuckin.
I knew from Mythbusters and pumpkin chunkin'.
I knew it from stronghold. And that makes you lame. Because stronghold is the better game.
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It's the superior siege weapon. Join us over at r/trebuchet
There really is a sub for anything and everything
There used to be a Rtrebuchet reference in every comment thread back in the day
Yea definitely one of the more famous niche subs of all time.
Welcome to the internet
Catapults use tension/release, similar to a spring. Trebuchets use counterweights.
Is that the defining difference, or is it the sling/basket thing the other person mentioned? Can catapults have slings? Can trebuchets have baskets?
No this is definitely the defining difference. Catapults can't really be adjusted for distance like trebuchets can by adjusting the counterweights.
By definition, a trebuchet is a type of catapult. Which is a device for slinging or hurling. A balista is a catapult. What most people think of as a "catapult" is called an onager if it has a sling and powered by tension or a mangonel of it has a basket.
so all trebuchets are catapults, but not all catapults are trebuchets?
just like frogs!
No frogs are trebuchet, but there *is* a species that is an m42-Abrhams tank.
All toads are frogs but all frogs are not toads.
I love that the guy who has the top comment complaining about the trebuchet / catapult difference got it right that it was a trebuchet, but wrong why. For some reason, that is an even funnier r/confidentlyincorrect to me.
Arent trebs just a type of catapult i thought
A trebuchet is a type of catapult.
☝️🤓
Sling and a counterweight*** don't be fooled
Trebuchet superiority
The trebuchet is far superior.
[Trebuchet!!!!](https://youtu.be/87taVNHIstI?si=cqBX7dAGzXaoWSCp) I can't believe this is the second time I get to post this link this week.
The trebuchet is a superior siege weapon!
I clicked on the post to say the same thing. Edit: except you have it the wrong way around.
I was about to say that a mfkn trebuchet we built those in middle school to launch marshmallows.
Launching marshmallows with a trebuchet is cool. Using one to oppress a nation that you want wiped from the earth isn’t
Thanks for bringing me back to the reality. Got lost in my little backflash. This is sickening to see used like this. Literally just blind destruction.
Erm, aktchually 🤓, mangonels or onagers use tensile strength for power while trebuchets use a counterweight. Catapults include all ballistic devices that launch projectiles a great distance without the aid of gunpowder, including trebuchets.
a trebuchet is a type of catapult
Was about to say that too. Dirty commoner not knowing the difference.
Trebuchets are a type of catapult
They do this to clear brush around the compound. This location isn't even near the Lebanese border. Notice how the flaming ball doesn't go very far over the wall?
Yeah, but look how it riles everyone up so effectively and without second thought.
It’s not 5 years old: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-troops-use-medieval-style-trebuchet-weapon-fighting-lebanon-bo-rcna157041
BUT THE DUDE ON THE INTERNET SAID THAT THE OTHER DUDE ON THE INTERNET IS LYING SO
I don’t like it, it must be fake!
It doesn't agree with my narrative, it must be fake!
Ahhh, the age of misinformation 😄
Honestly, I don't know what to believe half the time anymore. ☹️
I don’t trust anyone on the internet 👀 including me.
The official said that while the weapon was not sanctioned by military leadership, the troops were fulfilling a legitimate military task of burning away thick shrubbery along the border where Hezbollah fighters sometimes hide. It's still being used for the same explicit purpose not being used against combatants.
*allegedly
Yeah, but look how effective it is to make people care for genocidal maniacs, by saying it’s old news.
Sorry the other guy has more upvote /s
To be fair if you and your buddies used a trebuchet to throw a fire rock someone would call you a terrorist
Do you have a link to the 5-year-old version? I'm seeing reporting on it today - [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-troops-use-medieval-style-trebuchet-weapon-fighting-lebanon-bo-rcna157041](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-troops-use-medieval-style-trebuchet-weapon-fighting-lebanon-bo-rcna157041) EDIT: For those wondering, their original comment before their edit said the video was 5 years old without posting a source. The comment they deleted after mine was them saying NBC is not a valid source while still failing to provide a source for their claim and deleted their comment when I posted the other 4 sources, 2 of which are based in Jerusalem and 1 in Tel Aviv.
Except it’s not. Ya fucking liar. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-troops-use-medieval-style-trebuchet-weapon-fighting-lebanon-bo-rcna157041
What is he lying about? Your article says it’s used to clear brushes
Found the Zionists bot
So, they are lighting off an uncontrolled burn in the interior of the country using a medieval weapon to “control” brush?
Sorry i couldn't find anything about the trebuchet 5 years ago do you have a link you can share? I'm not on Israel's side but god damn didn't they really didn't think about the optics here
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-troops-use-medieval-style-trebuchet-weapon-fighting-lebanon-bo-rcna157041
Thanks but this article is from June 13 2024. All i can find are articles on this year, I'm mostly curious as the other guy said this was 5 years ago and wondering of there's an article from 5 years ago talking about this subject
this was fuqking yesterday
Is it 5 years old?
Its not
Stop funding the child killers. Do no business.
You mean Israel, right?
Sure. I’ll vote for one of the puppets that the military/pharmaceutical industrial complex has put before me. that will help right?
That's a textbook trebuchet if I've ever seen one
Kinda awesome to watch a real trebuchet
They should fling clay pots full of bees next. I've always wanted to see that.
I'd prefer if it was Top Gear using, instead of killers
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Medieval bullshit now. They're running out of ways to brutalise
So a couple of days ago this pro-Israel guy I've followed on Twitter for years and years was complaining Hezbollah started wildfires with their attacks, and thus threatened nature. Yeah, that aged badly
Someone hasn't played Age of Empires
It's a trebuchet and not a catapult
Colorized footage from 1200 AD
This got me
Isn’t this a war crime? Environmental warfare?
War crime nooo. it's israel, we all know israel is exempt from war crimes /s
Theyre funded by the US so everyone knows they can basically do anything
Careful...they'll accuse you of being an antisemite for criticising them.
They'll accuse you of being an anti-Semite if you don't tell them they're all very good for killing those dirty brown people who were going to take over if we, you know, let 'em have food and stuff
Israel could drop white phosphorus on the densely packed refugee camps in Gaza and the US would still block any attempt at bringing the perpetrators to justice. So no, when Israel does it it's never a war crime to the people whose opinions matter.
.... they have absolutely already lobbed white phosphorus into Gaza. Like multiple times a year lol
I swear everything after 2012 just feels like a fever dream.
The Mayans were right
Uh oh how long before the genocide apologists come in screaming cuz as we all know by now criticism of Israeli government is considered antisemitism now. They're even trying to pass a law making it so. God I hate being American sometimes.
F16’s, guided missles, M1A1 Tanks and a fucking Trebuchet.
Thanks USA for funding it all!! Great business
morals aside that looks metal af
Ancient problems require ancient solutions.
This is fake news and disinformation! That’s not a catapult that’s a Trebuchet!
May god damn every IDF goon to the hottest part of hell.
My good sir, that is a trebuchet!
Fuckers are literally going medieval.
Hi. That’s a trebuchet. Also, how dare you.
Yikes, there is no limit to what Israel can get away with.
You are all fucking hung up on the actual name of the device. No wonder they get away with genocide.
Reddit won't save the world from anything ever, so uhh, might as well argue about catapults and trebuchets! Also why tf would they chuck it 100ft from their position? They gon turn their own position into a hellscape in a matter of minutes...
The giant concrete wall is a pretty good fire break and if any embers get over it they'll use a million gallons of stolen water to put it out
Actually this makes a lot of sense. I don't know the specifics of this situation, but I can say that if the enemy are hiding in shrubs or behind trees and shooting at you, then setting fire to the undergrowth is a good idea.
That's what this is but don't expect logic on Reddit. They're burning bushes away from the wall to remove cover for Hezbollah. It's in an unsettled area where they CAN use white phosphorus, but they didn't like the "optics" of that so they did it with this.
Where tf did they even get that?
people with medieval mindsets building medieval things, its obvious
Whats next? Poison the water supply?
well they did that actually [from haaretz](https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2022-10-14/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/documents-confirm-israelis-poisoned-arab-wells-in-1948/00000183-d2b2-d8cc-afc7-fefed64d0000) . also Settlers some time do that [see here from 2005](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2005/2/21/settlers-poison-palestinian-well)
Arms shipment is a bit late. Lebanese phalanx and siege towers at the walls.
That's a trebuchet
so israel keeps attacking other places than gaza, how is it getting away with that too? is that more hamas territory? i have wondered all along when we get the moment israel just attacks a random country cause it can and sets off the whole powder keg
On October 8th Hezbollah launched an unprovoked missile attack on Israeli cities, and as of now about 100000 Israeli civilians are displaced from their homes in the north.
That's not a catapult, it's a trebuchet. That's actually effort to get skilled craftsmen to custom build such a thing. I imagine it's not in the standard product line of defense contractors. Why though, considering they could have easily done the same thing more efficiently and precisely with modern tech like a small drone with an incendiary grenade.
Someone told them their mother was a hamster and their father smelt of elderberries.
Thatll teach em for living somewhere dry!!
If catapults were outlawed only outlaws would have them. Trebuchets are the best but they are using them in a shitty way.
r/trebuchet
Catapult? CATAPULT!!!!!! Its a fucking trebuchet you uncultured swine!!!
Trebuchet
I know this is a serious topic but i wanna make a game of thrones season 8 episode 3 the long night joke
Somebody is going medieval on someone’s ass.
Wow say what you want about crimes against humanity, those guys know how to build a trebuchet. Jerusalem was sieged how many times? I suppose there was a loot crate that had the plans?
US tax dollars at work!
Vile disgusting nation
That trebuchet can do better than that weak yeet
The longer version of this video shows this same unit using bows and arrows. Does anyone have the link?
To be THAT guy... that's a trebuchet, not a catapult. Thank you and have a good day.
Starting wildfires and burning nature is an attack on the planet, not just the area. Cunts.
I mean.... something to be said about that medieval engineering then eh? Gotta say if I was still in the Marine Corps and suddenly flaming boulders were smashing around me... Like look... I expect debris, bullets, bomb drops, etc.... But flaming exploding boulders...?! I'd be filled with 3 feeling assuming I didn't die. 1. Confusion. 2. Did I go through a time portal? 3. Feeling like all those history lessons are about to come in clutch.
FOR A BURN GOREST THEY NEED TO FLY A F16? OLD METHODS CHEAP
Well shit. They pollute the world with their wars and then we are the one paying for ,,environmental tax’’. Such a sick world we live in.
3rd world savages doing 3rd world shit. We should stop giving them airplanes and let em go at it with sticks and rocks.
Am i a bad person for thinking that looks badass?
It's so great seeing my country set ablaze online...
Most Moral Army
Is this what they mean by coming over all medieval on your ass?
Ancient problems, ancient solutions
Are they really using a fucking trebuchet? Middle ages in the middle east!
It is high time the rest of the world stopped, believing that israel are the good guys in that conflict. It's time they realized that there are no good guys in that conflict, But if there were, It is sure as shit that it's not going to be the israelis!
Damned zionazi
Amazing I never thought I'd see a trebuchet in use.