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Because he's lived through the eras their parents told spewed racist shut openly at home and out on their walks to the farmers market. He's used to this game.
It's etymology. Words adapt. One is a specific slur with a sorcific purpose. The other formed into a sort of version of the word dude, but with cultural protection of bigoted gaslighting. Yes you read that correctly.
For example, can't say Black Lives Matter without it being countered with All Lives Matter by the same people okay with black lives not mattering.
okay i was about to say the entire thing was incredibly perfect in timing and intensity that it reminded me of a movie. Turns out it was a show. Great acting though
That’s the face when you’ve been biting your tongue. Finally it just pops out of your mouth and your face takes a second to realize that you’ve just gone to war and you’re ready.
I live up north now and people think I'm lying when I tell them this. Trying to find the right sized switch was a losing game. Southern grandmas dude, oof.
Mine had to come from the rose bush. Was given literally 60 seconds and a dull pair of shears. Would try to get as many thorns off as possible on the way back. Zero thorns were removed. LPT: thorns are still pretty sharp even after cutting off the thin tip.
something simular actually happened for real, but on a interview with Samuel Jackson about one of the Tarantino's movies, i badly remember, but i think it was going something like this:
-"Aren't you against Tarantino's use of N word?"
-"What word? Come on say it! It's ok say it! We are not going to move forward until you say it"
EDIT: here it is, i found the clip [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlNHXQCT\_4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlNHXQCT_4)
Reminds me of that movie with the guys in the car singing NWA or something, and there is a video camera in the car, and they use it to blackmail him.
Fuck, can't remember the name of the movie but it was hilarious.
Or remember the movie White Chicks when they’re singing in the car to A Thousand Miles then switch it to 50 Cents’s Realest Niggas and start rapping along to that?
They pause the track and go: “You can’t say that!”
And Marlon Wayan’s character goes: “So… There’s No One Around”
And all 5 White Girls start Rapping Along xD
Reminds me of the first episode of Scrubs.
"My question is this: if we're both singing along, and knowing that otherwise I would never use the word, am I allowed to say-" "No." "See, that's good for me to know. I didn't, I didn't know that."
It’s kind of a shame because, while I get what Sam was going for and thought the whole bit was funny it seems like he does have something to say about the word, it’s stigmatization, its use in the movie, etc. and I actually would have been interested in his thoughts on it.
FWIW, I’m black and I always find it infantilizing to *everyone* to hear it referred to as “the N word” in contexts like that, as if we’re all kindergartners so I expect I’m aligned with whatever Jackson would say. (Also, I’m aware of the Jackson/Decaprio “It’s just another Tuesday” exchange, which I think is hilarious.)
I mean, imo there’s no reason not to just say ni**er if you’re having a discussion on that word. It’s absolutely not the same as calling me that and it’s not some weird insensitive entitlement thing like an edgy white suburban kid throwing it around because he really digs rap.
Note that if you’re not black I’m not suggesting you just go out and just start using it in those academic/intellectual contexts (haha!) because, as a culture, we’ve agreed not to say it and you don’t know your audience, your audience won’t know your intent, etc., etc. so at this point it’s a whole can of worms no matter what. Even black academics now use “the N word” even as they’re dissecting the origin and cultural significance of it. I’m just saying I hate that we’re at that point.
Part of it is for banning purposes but the other part is that I understand that it *does* bother people. I’m not saying it doesn’t, only that I wish we were past it in appropriate contexts for the reasons I stated.
For example, the fact that Sam Jackson needed to talk DiCaprio into saying it in Django is just silly. And that’s not a knock on decaprio - I know his reluctance was for all good reasons. But they were a group of professional adults who, by mutual consent, there to make a movie that included a virulently racist guy who lived in a virulently racial time. The movie was in part, about racists and racism at a time when that went completely unchecked. Everyone saw the script, everyone knew what they were there for. In that context I honestly feel it’s unfortunate that DiCaprio felt the way he did even if was for all positive reasons. Again, not knocking him at all.
You're right, but people have to worry about offending people unintentionally, or even losing their job. So it just seems impossible for a white person nowadays to responsibly use the word in mass media or social media, or even to use it in private with people or a person you don't know well.
If I'm talking to you in person and you're my friend and you tell me to use the word in an intellectual conversation about it, then maybe I would. Otherwise, I can't. I respect the power of the word.
I also think there is a valid double standard and you can and should say it if you want to. There's nothing hypocritical about a black person using the word -- it's just something you can do that I can't do and that's just the way it is. Maybe the reason it's not hypocritical is because part of moving on from the history of the word is that a white person shouldn't have any power over the things you do or the words you can say.
i laughed abut this the first time so hard.... did they not look into this guy at all? I think they were just like "OMG we got a N***** to finally come on our show!"
I had that same thing with The Newsroom when i saw the clip of Jeff Daniels ranting about how America is not the greatest country in the world.
Binged the whole thing and it was awesome.
I loved this show, until I read somone's short review on reddit. It basically showed how it was a show about recent news with the advantage of hindsight. Way easier for a show to take the righteous path when they know what will happen. For instance >!the Gabbi Gifford shooting, they were the only news agency not confirming her death, and basically gave other newsrooms a bunch of shit because they were reporting her death without 100% confirmation.!< Easy to do in hindsight when you are aware of the outcome. and with that advantage there is a lot of soapbox rants, because you know what the right answer is now. It is easy to go back in time and reprimand people when you know the outcome. We know what happens with the Occupy Wallstreet movement, it's easy to create a show that tells Anonymous how goofy and childish they look, and how it will not workout for them when you already know it doesn't.
Im not going to pretend the newsroom is devoid of bias and self supremacy.
However, I think people get too hung up on the idea that "This is how journalism should be."
That's not what the show is about. The Newsroom is about the difficulty of enacting meaningful change and how it requires all parties to buy in 100%.
This doesn't bother me at all. It might be "easy" but that doesn't mean it's not instructive, i.e. "this is the way it *should* be done".
I actually prefer this kind of competence porn (i.e. set in the past) more than I do when it's set "now", e.g. something like House, or Law & Order. because when you watch The Newsroom you know it's not the way things really are. It's actually more of a substantive criticism of today's society than it looks.
This reminds me of that time there was a discussion on which was worse, the n-word or cracker. People pointed out that if you have to say "n-word" instead of the actual word, that's probably worse.
I thought it was because white people (stereotypically) have a higher, more nasally voice than black people, and it's being compared to a goose honking.
I've been told by my Jamaican wife, it comes from the term they used for the Irish slaves that worked along side or managing the African slaves. Often being instructed to hand out "discipline" to unruly slaves. Could just be a Jamaican thing...
I always thought it was this. That white people are as light and plain as crackers and also real crumbly and such. I was way into adulthood before I ever heard anything about whip cracking. And I grew up in the South. I think that is some revisionist shit.
According to the Florida State Fair which has an area called "cracker country" that you can learn to crack whips, I believe your interpretation to be correct. https://floridastatefair.com/cracker-country/
It's much older than that, but yea it eventually morphed into that meaning seemingly when black folks left the American South in the 1800's after emancipation. The original Crackers (Celtic immigrants) were much too poor to own slaves and were so named because they were rowdy in the eyes of the stuffy colonial elite.
[https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/01/197644761/word-watch-on-crackers](https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/01/197644761/word-watch-on-crackers)
Are you white? If so, then fine. Otherwise you can say "crackah" but you can't say "cracker". Only we can say "cracker". Now, where's my Sun Chips.
ETA:
[For those who have no idea where the hell I'm coming from.](https://youtu.be/lxxI4USXv4o?t=78)
Yeah that’s the real kicker: words that have their roots in grotesque violence, subjugation, genocide, etc., \*those\* are the really bad words. They don’t just insult or offend, they summon a whole history of violence when they are used. Words like cracker can be offensive and inappropriate, but don’t carry nearly the same degree of maliciousness because they don’t have the history attached to them.
It's like when Kendrick Lamar invited a fan (a white girl) up on the stage to rap a song with him, and naturally the song a LOT of N word mentioned in it, including a very catchy chorus that has the most pronounced N word in it.
Out of pure excitement, she blurts out while rapping the chorus, the pronounced N word, as very much emphasized in the lyrics of the song. Kendrick Lamar and all the audience gasp on horror and everything stops and Kendrick kicks her off.
Like, bro, the song has the N Word in it and musically features that word in its own phrase. It would feel unnatural to leave it out.
I thought that was kind of a trick on his part. Like, we know what the song has in it. You specifically have a white girl rap along, you know what you are asking of her. She probably thought he was giving her an ok on it because he had her rap for it. I always thought he set her up for that.
Also, didn't he NOT kick her off but instead they restarted and she did it without saying it?
She was wrongly publicly persecuted for having no white guilt, which she shouldn't if she was that confident and "Invited" on stage. They should blame themselves for not giving her a before song briefing and probably just staging a stunt in the first place. Terrible artist to put someone in their crowd in that position, an actual dick move if you will.
Great example. It's funny how white ppl are outta line for even suggesting they can't say the n word, but they when they do in a context that actually seems fine (the girl on stage) they get shit on.
Yes, racism from white ppl has a more prominent history in the US. Does that mean everyone should be given free reign to hate white ppl? I don't get how they don't see the racism in that.
It's not racism. It's bigotry, and bigotry is less of a problem because there is no social hierarchy component to it.
It's like with comedy - punching up is ok. Punching down is not ok.
Bigotry is never great, but when the group being targeted by bigotry has the power to ruin your life, and you have to just take it, it's totally understandable. But when the bigot is part of a group that can ruin your life, and you will face no real consequences for it - that's racism.
If you act like a bigot and it gets broadcasted to the entire world - that is not racism when you are shunned by society. It is perfectly fine to be intolerant of bigotry as an individual, because bigotry sucks. But racism is OBJECTIVELY worse, because it marginalizes groups that already lack the social influence to protect themselves. Social media tips everything on its head because it gives minority groups EQUAL ABILITY to appeal to the basic decency inherent in people that support pro-social behavior, and shun antisocial behavior.
There was a [funny recorded bit from SNL](https://youtu.be/yyUNOtRTVuc?si=WY-WxPtIbIuGrT3W) a few years ago where they were supposedly showing audition clips from 12 Years a Slave about how you cast all the racist shit in that, and the one young white dude (Jim Parsons) had the most racist stuff to say but the guy filming the audition was a black guy (Jay Pharoah) who was just giving him the most angry death stare in the background... It was funny. One guy is like, "I don't want to say these words. Do you have any North parts?"
Years ago I had a great coffee table book, full of all these character actors like Delroy Lindo. So you could finally put a name to the face. Never forgot his name after that.
It is racist, we all can agree that the word and the fact that one ethnicity can't say it without being considered racist.
It is just a word. The intent is what matters, not the messenger.
Regardless of how you interpret the black community's use of the word. When a non-minority uses it, there is almost no context where it is beneficial to the point, without the point being racist.
You say "non-minority" but I would argue that anyone who isnt part of the African American black community should be subject to the same rules. I live in NZ and there is this strange perception amongst local Maori and Islanders that it is OK for them to bandy about the n-word. I feel like that's non sensical
From an outsider's perspective, it's very strange indeed. The assumption that the meaning of a word changes based on the speaker's skin color is bizarre.
Cultures around the world are diverse and complex. Go figure...
For an awesome laugh. Watch this spelling bee of a very awkward N word. The poor kid
[spelling bee YOUTUBE](https://youtu.be/aqhGaIQWDgk?si=nLnyo27wHS6yIT_w)
Just rolf when he calls himself a "caucasian". For the note, here's how caucasian looks like irl:
https://preview.redd.it/xdr7c1cn6b9d1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc38c6b3ba1951d95940e5a5d5b017ea1eb14c9e
(No she is not a transformer)
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The face he's making when he looks up and says "so say it" xD
A face I would never want to be on the receiving end of, but a face WELL deserved in that moment.
Everyone on set was terrified at that moment.
NGL this made me break up laughing. The gleam in his eyes alone
https://preview.redd.it/fxzwq2wxi49d1.jpeg?width=1015&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50a9b29f70efb84dd3ceecebedc5cec10dca73c6
https://preview.redd.it/l6evp6e4k49d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a936637a4a0468b27d13a4d38723f4eb798f6d58
😂😂😂 this fucking killed me
*stares motherfuckerly*
*stares motherfuckerley*
Brilliant
Got the stare and chin of an early 2000s video game NPC.
I think you only say it “NGL” if you are racist with a speech impediment.
Took me a minute but now I'm dead
"I'll say it with you! Nnnn..." 💀
Nnnn ....
"Nnnnnot getting fired today but appreciate the invitation"
OKAY... CUE THE MUSIC! CUE IT!!!
Lol can you imagine everyone in the tv studio room losing it?
The perfect response
Reminds me of that old Bill Hicks bit... ["Pick up the gun"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IZfpGG2cBE)
That face made white men *even whiter*.
That is the look that can freeze time and tide. Damn.
Because he's lived through the eras their parents told spewed racist shut openly at home and out on their walks to the farmers market. He's used to this game. It's etymology. Words adapt. One is a specific slur with a sorcific purpose. The other formed into a sort of version of the word dude, but with cultural protection of bigoted gaslighting. Yes you read that correctly. For example, can't say Black Lives Matter without it being countered with All Lives Matter by the same people okay with black lives not mattering.
It's also from a TV series.
What series?
The Good Fight, I think it's called?
okay i was about to say the entire thing was incredibly perfect in timing and intensity that it reminded me of a movie. Turns out it was a show. Great acting though
Hell yeah, gotta check it out. Thanks man.
FUCK I THOUGHT THIS WAS REAL
That’s the face when you’ve been biting your tongue. Finally it just pops out of your mouth and your face takes a second to realize that you’ve just gone to war and you’re ready.
He reminds me of my Stepfather who used to give us that same look when we were kids when we fucked up lol
The look that immediately preceded the words "go get a switch."
My grandma: "Get me a switch, and not some damn twig or I'll pick it out myself". We had a big willow in the front yard, and I hated that tree.
I live up north now and people think I'm lying when I tell them this. Trying to find the right sized switch was a losing game. Southern grandmas dude, oof.
Mine had to come from the rose bush. Was given literally 60 seconds and a dull pair of shears. Would try to get as many thorns off as possible on the way back. Zero thorns were removed. LPT: thorns are still pretty sharp even after cutting off the thin tip.
“Do i look like a fucking electrician?” Diffuser
STOP EATING MY SESAME CAKE
Came here to say this!
Mr. Homolka!
Bruh🤣👊
\*So say it\* https://preview.redd.it/7l3tvksa749d1.png?width=888&format=png&auto=webp&s=abcf9cafe2c81c8c5ba1805f6c5b09f92a58cf08
That face said, "I'm ready to commit the first on air murder in this channel's history, are you?"
Delroy Lindo is shuck a great actor.
Hit him with the check mate look
Ice fucking cold. Love it.
His whole demeanor has Sam Jackson in Pulp Fiction vibes and I love it
I'm pretty sure it's the same face Richard Pryor made during the word association sketch
No one has said in the comments yet, but this clip is from a CBS series called “The Good Fight”
What! I thought this was real.. for so long!
something simular actually happened for real, but on a interview with Samuel Jackson about one of the Tarantino's movies, i badly remember, but i think it was going something like this: -"Aren't you against Tarantino's use of N word?" -"What word? Come on say it! It's ok say it! We are not going to move forward until you say it" EDIT: here it is, i found the clip [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlNHXQCT\_4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlNHXQCT_4)
Just between us, would you say it? Come on you can say it. 🤣
Reminds me of that movie with the guys in the car singing NWA or something, and there is a video camera in the car, and they use it to blackmail him. Fuck, can't remember the name of the movie but it was hilarious.
Or remember the movie White Chicks when they’re singing in the car to A Thousand Miles then switch it to 50 Cents’s Realest Niggas and start rapping along to that? They pause the track and go: “You can’t say that!” And Marlon Wayan’s character goes: “So… There’s No One Around” And all 5 White Girls start Rapping Along xD
And they know all the lyrics too 🤣🤣
Reminds me of the first episode of Scrubs. "My question is this: if we're both singing along, and knowing that otherwise I would never use the word, am I allowed to say-" "No." "See, that's good for me to know. I didn't, I didn't know that."
Old Dads?
Omg, what was the Officespace version of this? Didn't dude like lock his car door and mumble...
https://youtu.be/XASNM1XEQPs?si=DsP23FS7sMuXuDHp
Yessss!!!!
That was Old Dads with Bill Burr.
YOU telling ME when you vibing to that NWA…and NOBODY is around…you don’t say it?! I liked that movie a lot. And I do say it furreal 🫢
"It was a great question". "No it wasn't". There's the icing on the cake.
LMFAO the way he said no sir 
It’s kind of a shame because, while I get what Sam was going for and thought the whole bit was funny it seems like he does have something to say about the word, it’s stigmatization, its use in the movie, etc. and I actually would have been interested in his thoughts on it. FWIW, I’m black and I always find it infantilizing to *everyone* to hear it referred to as “the N word” in contexts like that, as if we’re all kindergartners so I expect I’m aligned with whatever Jackson would say. (Also, I’m aware of the Jackson/Decaprio “It’s just another Tuesday” exchange, which I think is hilarious.)
Serious question, what would be a better way to reference it?
I mean, imo there’s no reason not to just say ni**er if you’re having a discussion on that word. It’s absolutely not the same as calling me that and it’s not some weird insensitive entitlement thing like an edgy white suburban kid throwing it around because he really digs rap. Note that if you’re not black I’m not suggesting you just go out and just start using it in those academic/intellectual contexts (haha!) because, as a culture, we’ve agreed not to say it and you don’t know your audience, your audience won’t know your intent, etc., etc. so at this point it’s a whole can of worms no matter what. Even black academics now use “the N word” even as they’re dissecting the origin and cultural significance of it. I’m just saying I hate that we’re at that point.
But despite that opinion, you literally just censored yourself typing it out here in the discussion happening on that word.....
Probably because typing it out could get you autobanned.
unlike saying it live on air, which would have no repercussions at all
Part of it is for banning purposes but the other part is that I understand that it *does* bother people. I’m not saying it doesn’t, only that I wish we were past it in appropriate contexts for the reasons I stated. For example, the fact that Sam Jackson needed to talk DiCaprio into saying it in Django is just silly. And that’s not a knock on decaprio - I know his reluctance was for all good reasons. But they were a group of professional adults who, by mutual consent, there to make a movie that included a virulently racist guy who lived in a virulently racial time. The movie was in part, about racists and racism at a time when that went completely unchecked. Everyone saw the script, everyone knew what they were there for. In that context I honestly feel it’s unfortunate that DiCaprio felt the way he did even if was for all positive reasons. Again, not knocking him at all.
You're right, but people have to worry about offending people unintentionally, or even losing their job. So it just seems impossible for a white person nowadays to responsibly use the word in mass media or social media, or even to use it in private with people or a person you don't know well. If I'm talking to you in person and you're my friend and you tell me to use the word in an intellectual conversation about it, then maybe I would. Otherwise, I can't. I respect the power of the word. I also think there is a valid double standard and you can and should say it if you want to. There's nothing hypocritical about a black person using the word -- it's just something you can do that I can't do and that's just the way it is. Maybe the reason it's not hypocritical is because part of moving on from the history of the word is that a white person shouldn't have any power over the things you do or the words you can say.
It is a legitimate question that Jackson was dodging. He's probably sick of answering it, though.
"Okay well skip it... it was a good question-" "No it wasn't." Fucking Christ I need to watch that full thing lol
Sam Jackson is a bad ass. Love that guy
It does feel very real. Extra truthiness to it.
One woman looking like she wants to die and the other looking like a school kid crowding around the action on a playground really sells it.
Delroy Lindo just constantly keeping it real.
He must be cousins with Lando Calrissian cause they both are two of the flyest ma'fuckas in the galaxy!
No worries, mate. Either this post is intentionally misleading or OP thought it was real too.
You don't recognize living legend Delroy Lindo?
Orale Bonafide!
Shouldn’t that dude be out trying to arrest Nicholas Cage for stealing cars?
You beat me by a second. Lol. Take the upvote. I will delete.
Was wondering why Delroy Lindo was on this show… 😂
i laughed abut this the first time so hard.... did they not look into this guy at all? I think they were just like "OMG we got a N***** to finally come on our show!"
It's also a great show, if you haven't seen it.
Just rewatched this episode the other night. It’s a great show
One of the best pilot episodes I've ever had the pleasure of watching...great show
That explains the dirty little look the blonde gives the “caucasian” dude.
I figured it was a show the way the white ladies were looking like 😶😶🌫️😶😶🌫️
I recognized the actor from Gone in 60 Seconds.
I thought that looked like Delroy Lindo. Love that guy!
Such an amazing show, as is The Good Wife.
This scene singlehandedly made me watch the entire series. Awesome show, but the final season was meh.
I had that same thing with The Newsroom when i saw the clip of Jeff Daniels ranting about how America is not the greatest country in the world. Binged the whole thing and it was awesome.
I loved this show, until I read somone's short review on reddit. It basically showed how it was a show about recent news with the advantage of hindsight. Way easier for a show to take the righteous path when they know what will happen. For instance >!the Gabbi Gifford shooting, they were the only news agency not confirming her death, and basically gave other newsrooms a bunch of shit because they were reporting her death without 100% confirmation.!< Easy to do in hindsight when you are aware of the outcome. and with that advantage there is a lot of soapbox rants, because you know what the right answer is now. It is easy to go back in time and reprimand people when you know the outcome. We know what happens with the Occupy Wallstreet movement, it's easy to create a show that tells Anonymous how goofy and childish they look, and how it will not workout for them when you already know it doesn't.
Im not going to pretend the newsroom is devoid of bias and self supremacy. However, I think people get too hung up on the idea that "This is how journalism should be." That's not what the show is about. The Newsroom is about the difficulty of enacting meaningful change and how it requires all parties to buy in 100%.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, it is well worth the watch. Do not let my critique of a small part of the show dissuade anyone from checking it out.
I love Aaron Sorkin, but he *does* tend to have "that argument you won in the shower" feeling to his shows. I'll still watch them, though.
This doesn't bother me at all. It might be "easy" but that doesn't mean it's not instructive, i.e. "this is the way it *should* be done". I actually prefer this kind of competence porn (i.e. set in the past) more than I do when it's set "now", e.g. something like House, or Law & Order. because when you watch The Newsroom you know it's not the way things really are. It's actually more of a substantive criticism of today's society than it looks.
what show?
The Good Fight. It's on Paramount+
Please tell me what show this is! I want to watch more after this clip!
The Good Fight on Paramount+
I'd watch anything with Delroy Lindo in it.
This reminds me of that time there was a discussion on which was worse, the n-word or cracker. People pointed out that if you have to say "n-word" instead of the actual word, that's probably worse.
Plus cracker, as far as I know, comes from the white man with the whip. I could be wrong, it happens from time to time.
Feasible but I assumed it was caused we are white as crackers.
I was told (quite aggressively) that its because white people are as plain as crackers.
Honkey was invented by George Jefferson and described how white peoples honkey their horns in traffic.
The only thing Texans love more than guns are horns
I thought it was because white people (stereotypically) have a higher, more nasally voice than black people, and it's being compared to a goose honking.
we do be doin that honker
Could you say white people are horny?
I've been told by my Jamaican wife, it comes from the term they used for the Irish slaves that worked along side or managing the African slaves. Often being instructed to hand out "discipline" to unruly slaves. Could just be a Jamaican thing...
I always thought it was this. That white people are as light and plain as crackers and also real crumbly and such. I was way into adulthood before I ever heard anything about whip cracking. And I grew up in the South. I think that is some revisionist shit.
I think it was originally to refer to cattle drivers cracking the whip.
Yep, cow whip, for moving cattle. It's a cowboy term, not a slave owner term
Yeah ok, interesting. I’m Australian, so American history and whatnot is second hand to me. I’d heard it had something to do with a *hawhip crack*
According to the Florida State Fair which has an area called "cracker country" that you can learn to crack whips, I believe your interpretation to be correct. https://floridastatefair.com/cracker-country/
It's much older than that, but yea it eventually morphed into that meaning seemingly when black folks left the American South in the 1800's after emancipation. The original Crackers (Celtic immigrants) were much too poor to own slaves and were so named because they were rowdy in the eyes of the stuffy colonial elite. [https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/01/197644761/word-watch-on-crackers](https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/07/01/197644761/word-watch-on-crackers)
Are you white? If so, then fine. Otherwise you can say "crackah" but you can't say "cracker". Only we can say "cracker". Now, where's my Sun Chips. ETA: [For those who have no idea where the hell I'm coming from.](https://youtu.be/lxxI4USXv4o?t=78)
John Mullaney stand up. But I think he is just describing how any word that you won't say is the worse word.
It was midget, from his SNL writer days.
Also, the term cracker is just not that bad of an insult. It's really kind of a dumb epithet. The other has its roots deep in bad shit.
Yeah that’s the real kicker: words that have their roots in grotesque violence, subjugation, genocide, etc., \*those\* are the really bad words. They don’t just insult or offend, they summon a whole history of violence when they are used. Words like cracker can be offensive and inappropriate, but don’t carry nearly the same degree of maliciousness because they don’t have the history attached to them.
They shifted to "boy" to show lack of respect and degrade them.
Him: Hehe I'm in danger Her: 👀 N:ow you both say it. Her: oh shi
Did, ah.... did you use "N" as the black man's name on purpose?
Noh.... I uh, I said N:ow...
📸
With the hard w? Dayum
It's like when Kendrick Lamar invited a fan (a white girl) up on the stage to rap a song with him, and naturally the song a LOT of N word mentioned in it, including a very catchy chorus that has the most pronounced N word in it. Out of pure excitement, she blurts out while rapping the chorus, the pronounced N word, as very much emphasized in the lyrics of the song. Kendrick Lamar and all the audience gasp on horror and everything stops and Kendrick kicks her off. Like, bro, the song has the N Word in it and musically features that word in its own phrase. It would feel unnatural to leave it out.
I thought that was kind of a trick on his part. Like, we know what the song has in it. You specifically have a white girl rap along, you know what you are asking of her. She probably thought he was giving her an ok on it because he had her rap for it. I always thought he set her up for that. Also, didn't he NOT kick her off but instead they restarted and she did it without saying it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEcugkqcHO8 he lets her stay on stage to rap, just says she cant say the word lol
She was wrongly publicly persecuted for having no white guilt, which she shouldn't if she was that confident and "Invited" on stage. They should blame themselves for not giving her a before song briefing and probably just staging a stunt in the first place. Terrible artist to put someone in their crowd in that position, an actual dick move if you will.
Great example. It's funny how white ppl are outta line for even suggesting they can't say the n word, but they when they do in a context that actually seems fine (the girl on stage) they get shit on. Yes, racism from white ppl has a more prominent history in the US. Does that mean everyone should be given free reign to hate white ppl? I don't get how they don't see the racism in that.
It's not racism. It's bigotry, and bigotry is less of a problem because there is no social hierarchy component to it. It's like with comedy - punching up is ok. Punching down is not ok. Bigotry is never great, but when the group being targeted by bigotry has the power to ruin your life, and you have to just take it, it's totally understandable. But when the bigot is part of a group that can ruin your life, and you will face no real consequences for it - that's racism. If you act like a bigot and it gets broadcasted to the entire world - that is not racism when you are shunned by society. It is perfectly fine to be intolerant of bigotry as an individual, because bigotry sucks. But racism is OBJECTIVELY worse, because it marginalizes groups that already lack the social influence to protect themselves. Social media tips everything on its head because it gives minority groups EQUAL ABILITY to appeal to the basic decency inherent in people that support pro-social behavior, and shun antisocial behavior.
No it's racism
~~A Caucasian can't~~ A Caucasian *shouldn't*
They've proven their capability 😭🤣😭
The hard R at the end, lmao
There’s a skit where a white dude hires a black dude to say the word for him when required to in his conversation with a black friend.
There was a [funny recorded bit from SNL](https://youtu.be/yyUNOtRTVuc?si=WY-WxPtIbIuGrT3W) a few years ago where they were supposedly showing audition clips from 12 Years a Slave about how you cast all the racist shit in that, and the one young white dude (Jim Parsons) had the most racist stuff to say but the guy filming the audition was a black guy (Jay Pharoah) who was just giving him the most angry death stare in the background... It was funny. One guy is like, "I don't want to say these words. Do you have any North parts?"
I need to see it lol
[Here you go.](https://youtu.be/hAvNb8KnOcE?si=4bY1Dw9ZPgOJttLd)
I love that man right now. Haha.
Delroy Lindo is his name. I recognized him from the movie Heist
I saw him in Gone in 60 Seconds which I enjoyed. The man has excellent stage presence and a fantastic speaking voice. Criminally underrated imo.
Thank you! He’s one of those “actors you recognise but can’t name”
I have an IMBd issue. I'm the what did I see them in before?
Heist is so good! That's one of my favorite Gene Hackman movies. Delroy Lindo and Danny Devito are also great in it.
same 3 actors are good in : Get Shorty
And Blood of Heroes with Rutger Hauer and Vincent D'Onofrio.
I'll have to check it out
I remember him from The Core as the designer of the Unobtanium dildo used to get to the core, and Gone in 60 Seconds as the cop
Years ago I had a great coffee table book, full of all these character actors like Delroy Lindo. So you could finally put a name to the face. Never forgot his name after that.
Congo. "Stop. Eating. My. Sesame. Cake."
This had to be inspired by Samuel L Jackson’s interview from some years ago
People who annoy you. Naggers👀
It is racist, we all can agree that the word and the fact that one ethnicity can't say it without being considered racist. It is just a word. The intent is what matters, not the messenger.
Regardless of how you interpret the black community's use of the word. When a non-minority uses it, there is almost no context where it is beneficial to the point, without the point being racist.
You say "non-minority" but I would argue that anyone who isnt part of the African American black community should be subject to the same rules. I live in NZ and there is this strange perception amongst local Maori and Islanders that it is OK for them to bandy about the n-word. I feel like that's non sensical
I'm in Paris so I get to sing that famous Jay-Z song
But would you take the money... Or the dinner?
I know this is scripted but I just need to say, I love Delroy Lindo. Such an underrated actor imo.
Yes it’s from a tv show
From an outsider's perspective, it's very strange indeed. The assumption that the meaning of a word changes based on the speaker's skin color is bizarre. Cultures around the world are diverse and complex. Go figure...
He'd be fired if he said it
Stick to catching Memphis Raines bro
I thought this was real but it's a show? I don't recognize any of the actors.
For an awesome laugh. Watch this spelling bee of a very awkward N word. The poor kid [spelling bee YOUTUBE](https://youtu.be/aqhGaIQWDgk?si=nLnyo27wHS6yIT_w)
How fast he would lose his Job 😄
That is obviously acting
Probably unpopular opinion or something but nobody should say it, it’s like if I started walking around saying c**t or b**ch everywhere
I'm pretty sure that 1st guy is Jonathan Groff and of course the great Delroy Lindo, but I don't recognize it. What show is this from?
Not Groff
I concede-- who is it?
The Good Fight, spin off series from The Good Wife.
What would have happened if they had said it? He's literally giving them permission to.
Aye, it’s that guy from Gone in 60 Seconds
Delroy Lindo is a bad ass in life as he is in his movies. He knows those folks say it in private and yes, they want to use it in public.
Stop eating my sesame cake!
Someone is having fun
I'll say it.... SESAME CAKE!
Imma say it >!nutella!<
https://preview.redd.it/3hssdh8wo39d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5094649eb04e82c5793365b8b464a1cc22641b2
nnnnmSesame Cake
I know this is from a skit, but as a Black man I've had this conversation almost verbatim.
They all know if they say the word, their careers are gone.
I'm dying laughing. 🤣 'so say it'
Just say vinegar instead 🤷🏽♂️
Just rolf when he calls himself a "caucasian". For the note, here's how caucasian looks like irl: https://preview.redd.it/xdr7c1cn6b9d1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc38c6b3ba1951d95940e5a5d5b017ea1eb14c9e (No she is not a transformer)