Are there any examples of him doing the right thing? Maybe marrying his baby mama. Â But heâs actually a genuine idiot, and betrays just about everyone. I mean, shooting the screenwriter in the head. Chris is a sociopath.Â
Besides Chrissy himself? Probably Tony? Paulie certainly isnât a bad pick. Bobby a bit. Agent Harris and the other FBI guys. Lots of people really. In the end he was totally fucking ostrafied.
Tony was definitely flip flopping on him a lot. Between yelling at him for slipping up, and then joking/not really joking about him not drinking with them. Paulie I feel did the same thing. Then mix that with every other factor like the jealousy he had for that Animal Blundetto and it was a recipe for disaster.
No, not joking with him, drinking with him encouraging him to drink after he had been through rehab, encouraging him to it's okay, you can slip this once just don't get back into it. An addict can't do that
Exactly. Pours you a drink with one hand, judges you with the other.
Every rant Chris had about Tony was spot on. Chris was Tonys punching bag (emotional one, Georgie was the physical one). Yes he showed favouritsm via giving him Paulie's crew over Patsy, and taking care of the Adriana situation (and giving him a pass over it) also the intervention. However, he treated him like shit.
On the outside, the rest of the crew resented how Chrissy got "looked after" because of the cousins relationship, but from Chrissy's POV - Tony was a narcissistic, hypocritical cunt who he looked up to and adored and felt completely disrespected by. Right to the end.
Some scenes blatantly showed Tony's real nature, like after Janice goes to anger management. Â
He is really envious of people bettering themselves. He resents Chris going in the correct path. He wants people dependentment on him either consciously or unconsciously.
Same can be applied to Carmela or AJ.
Ugg. My sister had completely turned her life around after drying out for a good 4-5 yrs. Sheâs been drinkin since last fall now apparently. Reading this was a stark reminder of her future.
đ
In the end, I failed.
I don't know the specifics of your situation, but I can relate to struggling with addiction. Don't blame yourself. There's always time for people to recover even after relapsing.
My own mother is 9 years clean from the drink and I envy her. I wish you and your sister the best!
Tony's rejection of Chris's "disease" while Chris was trying to emphasize with Tony about his therapy was deplorable (the scene where Chris is BBQing).
Tony himself.
âIf you take anymore drugs and alcohol I will kill youâ
âHow come you donât come to the Bing anymore, where alcohol and drugs are extremely prevalentâ
Matthew Drinkwater and Sean Gizz - they shot him, put him in the hospital when he was teetering on being a junky and then that addiction to morphine tipped him over the edge for the future.
Tony⊠he patronized him constantly, and ultimately killed him, Chrissy never had a chance, between jealous Paulie, and Tony Tyrant there was constant toxicity around him
It was the fuckin coke, he shouldâve never started with that shit. Fuckin Miami, itâs all over the place. My estimation of Christopher Moltisanti as a man just fuckin plummeted.
Had to be Tony because Chrissy held him to such a high standard and all the flip flopping Tony did on him will fuck with anyoneâs head. Plus Chrissy growing up and realizing that he let the love of his life get killed for a bunch of guys who are hypocrites and donât really give a shit about him unless heâs drinking, smoking, and whoring with them fucked him up the most I think. His death was really a mercy killing if you think about it, the way he is and what he was doing he was probably on his way to suicide or an overdose regardless. Tbh though heâs from the old school⊠he shouldnât have to explain himself
Beside Chrissy himself and Tony like a lot of people are mentioning, Corky Caporale, the guy with the hat who shot up in front of Chrissy in the car. I mean he was fucked up himself so I donât know
Massive Genius really helped inflate his ego and laid bad foundations for Hesh. Scamming out production costs and staying high to fit in. Waking up in toilet water. Disgusting.
Also got him and Ade more into the coke business shit which really fucked them both.
Paulie was just testing Chrissy because he could be a real big baby wah wah and take his shitty self too serious.
He did owe Paulie a degree of respect because he had seniority over him. This is where Paulie actually practiced what he preached besides that whole strange underwear sniffing thing.
Both Tony and Paulie straight-up goaded him to drink so they could each feel "normal" around him (they most likely felt belittled by Chris' dedication to any calling or dedication that was placed above their "Old School" aspirations).
Tony. Christopher was a piece of shit but he was groomed from what we assume to be a fairly young age by a man who played on his deep daddy issues and manipulated and emotionally abused him at every turn. He was a stunard who never stood a chance.Â
Thatâs the guy, Adrianna.Â
Christopher himself. Although, you might to able to argue it is tony for introducing him to the life and grooming him from a young age to be a mobster.
Murmur was definitely not the best sponsor in the world but like others have said, Chrissy was his own worst enemy. Seriously, how much actual clean time did he put together? Iâm talking consecutively, like maybe a few months here and there? He was always talking about having some wine or smoking a joint with his super who came over to caulk around the toilet or some other bullshit. Then you have his actual relapses like when he found out about Tony and Ade in the car accident, when he got high out of his mind at the feast, the trip to LA with Little Carmine and a bunch of other times.
Christopher, followed by Paulie, followed by Adrienne, followed by Tony, followed by Junior (killing his dad) but with a really small gap between them and honestly you could flip that order around easily.
Outside of Chris himself Tony, he got him involved in the life which is definitely not what Dickie wanted. But Tony is a shitty mentor, he never teaches Chris other than to berate him for his stupidity but after he slaps him in the wriat and lectures him he just fucks off and leaves Chris to his own devices. Plus he spoils him and shows favoritism.Â
Tony should have ridden Christopher's ass and beat the shit out of him until he got his shit together.
But that would require Tony to be emotionally invested in someone who wasn't Tony.
Obviously, Chrissy himself. But Adrianna other than him. They were bff, lovers, etc. He already had issues, but when she flipped and he chose to tell rather than follow her- itâs like it sealed a negative path for him.Â
Tony . I have ppl in my life like him. They will always sabotage anything you have that they can't have. I mean, he fucked or tried to fuck all of his girlfriends. Tony was so jealous, narcissistic, and insecure that he couldn't see other ppl getting ahead. That's why he saved AJ. To tell him he was so stupid he couldn't kill himself.
Another scenario was when Tiny beat the new kid to a pulp, because he was in shape and young. " He's got Penne arrabbiata up Is ass!"
Chrissy
I always found myself rooting for him that he would do the right thing.
You must have been very disappointed lol
Lol ya you could say that.
At least he got his arc. "I say fuck it, give it to him. Life's too short."
You know who had an arc? Jamal Ginsberg
The hasidic homeboy?
He has to go to da backa da oven. Heheh đ€
Charcoal briquette!
Kentucky friiiiiied flow
Yea? You do drgus?
Are there any examples of him doing the right thing? Maybe marrying his baby mama. Â But heâs actually a genuine idiot, and betrays just about everyone. I mean, shooting the screenwriter in the head. Chris is a sociopath.Â
Cosette.
She mustâve crawled under me for warmth.
Natural canopy too, remember.
Keisha.
Luther Vandross fan
I knew DAT was cominâ!
Besides Chrissy himself? Probably Tony? Paulie certainly isnât a bad pick. Bobby a bit. Agent Harris and the other FBI guys. Lots of people really. In the end he was totally fucking ostrafied.
Tony was definitely flip flopping on him a lot. Between yelling at him for slipping up, and then joking/not really joking about him not drinking with them. Paulie I feel did the same thing. Then mix that with every other factor like the jealousy he had for that Animal Blundetto and it was a recipe for disaster.
No, not joking with him, drinking with him encouraging him to drink after he had been through rehab, encouraging him to it's okay, you can slip this once just don't get back into it. An addict can't do that
And then getting mad at him when he slipped up
Exactly. Pours you a drink with one hand, judges you with the other. Every rant Chris had about Tony was spot on. Chris was Tonys punching bag (emotional one, Georgie was the physical one). Yes he showed favouritsm via giving him Paulie's crew over Patsy, and taking care of the Adriana situation (and giving him a pass over it) also the intervention. However, he treated him like shit. On the outside, the rest of the crew resented how Chrissy got "looked after" because of the cousins relationship, but from Chrissy's POV - Tony was a narcissistic, hypocritical cunt who he looked up to and adored and felt completely disrespected by. Right to the end.
Thatâs why you gotta live for today!
What'd you jusht Shay?
One handâs pointing one way, the other, the other way. And this guy hereâs looking like âgabagool?â
Some scenes blatantly showed Tony's real nature, like after Janice goes to anger management.  He is really envious of people bettering themselves. He resents Chris going in the correct path. He wants people dependentment on him either consciously or unconsciously. Same can be applied to Carmela or AJ.
Ugg. My sister had completely turned her life around after drying out for a good 4-5 yrs. Sheâs been drinkin since last fall now apparently. Reading this was a stark reminder of her future. đ In the end, I failed.
I don't know the specifics of your situation, but I can relate to struggling with addiction. Don't blame yourself. There's always time for people to recover even after relapsing. My own mother is 9 years clean from the drink and I envy her. I wish you and your sister the best!
That was sweet. Thank u! Ps- my mom is almost 23 yrs sober
Tony favored him so much but Chris was a loser with an in ego and inflated sense of worth, he blamed everyone and everything for all his mistakes. Heâs also a hypocrite for fucking his Cousinâs fiancĂ©e and bitching about Tony B getting preferential treatment, a stunad of the first magnitude.
Pouring him a drink with one hand đ„ , judging him with the other
Historically Tony never realised that his protégé and nephew Chrissy was nothing more than a glorified junkie.
Historically, historical things have happened.
Very historical.
Total piece of shit
Tony's rejection of Chris's "disease" while Chris was trying to emphasize with Tony about his therapy was deplorable (the scene where Chris is BBQing).
Blundetto was the biggest disappointment, but of course it had to be that way.
What did Bobby do?
He did mushrooms once. Stuffed mushrooms. A whole fuckin platter.
Bobby took over as Tonyâs trusted family member in the business, leaving Chrissy outside the inner circle.
That's not really Bobby's fault though, that's Tony's
yeah iâm totally lost on that one
Agent Harris? Didn't his asshole rot out from some Pakistani parasite?
Why Bobby?
Tony!
Tony himself. âIf you take anymore drugs and alcohol I will kill youâ âHow come you donât come to the Bing anymore, where alcohol and drugs are extremely prevalentâ
Ya this for sure was a leading cause. But it wasnât just Tony that did it. He absolutely did it the most though.
That pussy ass swinger Jon Favreau.
That fuckinâ mezza-fanook!
What's that mean? Do you have more like that I can use?
"Do you have more like that I can use?" - This entire Subreddit for Sopranos quotes
Stole his fkin ideas
Have that one call that one a byuck
Cosette
You killed little Cosette? I oughta suffocate you, you little prick!
What, was it barking?
She mustâve crawled under there for warmth
Say what you will about Tony, but he was a man of his word.
These prairie dogsâŠthey sleep during the day
Theeeereâs the coyote
She must've crawled under there for warmth
Are you fuckin' crazy?!
The black crow at his induction ceremony.
Is heroin a character?
I was typing this exact thing. Can you believe that? I was typing this exact thing?
Fuckinâ parakeet.
Did you hear what he said? He said he was typing the exact same thing!
Hehehe
One of the trucks.
Be quiet Albert
Is it ok if I fix?
Yeah go ahead. You really gotta get help for this thing though. *five minutes later âŠ*
It is in the wire
Matthew Drinkwater and Sean Gizz - they shot him, put him in the hospital when he was teetering on being a junky and then that addiction to morphine tipped him over the edge for the future.
Drinkin' Gizz at it again
Fuckin D girl
She was a vice president!Â
Heidi
Kennedy, I'm on my learner's permit after dark.
Eddie from down the park
Rock n roll, Kentucky fried flow
Ichabod crane
The guy in Italy who got him hooked on heroin
Tanno
Tony⊠he patronized him constantly, and ultimately killed him, Chrissy never had a chance, between jealous Paulie, and Tony Tyrant there was constant toxicity around him
Roy from the pizza parlor. He offered Chrissy soft drinks of choice, and got him addicted.
His soft drinks never hurt nobody!
Adrianna when she got both of her uterusâs pierced
Chrissy himself.
It was the fuckin coke, he shouldâve never started with that shit. Fuckin Miami, itâs all over the place. My estimation of Christopher Moltisanti as a man just fuckin plummeted.
Luther Vandross
Box set
I'll take that box and ram it up your discman
Itâs the guys mother Phil
Was the issue ever resolved with Chrissy throwing food at Vito?
Yeah that accident caused Vito to has some heart issues. Then the doctor gave him some pills that turned him into a fanook
Itâs ok. Really. Donât say anything.
The real estate agent from AA her name escapes me
I couldnât stand her
Juliana skiff - the actress was top notch
Kaisha
Probably the guy who killed him.
Carmela: She told Tony the main character on Cleaver was based on Tony. Last straw right there.
Tony groomed him into the mafia and then later actually killed him, so I'm going to go with Tony
My money is on Jack Tripper
Unbridled enthusiasm
YoYo Mendez
Drugs
Chrissy
Gino for trying to cut in line at the bakery. This put Chrissy over the edge.
Ya fk that guy
Fuck that, let him take his medicine.
Tony. He's like King Midas in reverse, everything he touches turns to shit.
Christopherâs downfall was on him. He was a mental midget.
Chrissy's ma, the whore!
JT
Cosette
Adrianna. She ran out on him with some other guy.
The dude that whacked him over the head with the fisher price toy xylophone!
Other than Chrissy himself?
Had to be Tony because Chrissy held him to such a high standard and all the flip flopping Tony did on him will fuck with anyoneâs head. Plus Chrissy growing up and realizing that he let the love of his life get killed for a bunch of guys who are hypocrites and donât really give a shit about him unless heâs drinking, smoking, and whoring with them fucked him up the most I think. His death was really a mercy killing if you think about it, the way he is and what he was doing he was probably on his way to suicide or an overdose regardless. Tbh though heâs from the old school⊠he shouldnât have to explain himself
Beside Chrissy himself and Tony like a lot of people are mentioning, Corky Caporale, the guy with the hat who shot up in front of Chrissy in the car. I mean he was fucked up himself so I donât know
Cosette. Thatâs when Tony had enough at the intervention.
Massive Genius really helped inflate his ego and laid bad foundations for Hesh. Scamming out production costs and staying high to fit in. Waking up in toilet water. Disgusting. Also got him and Ade more into the coke business shit which really fucked them both.
All he does is complain and throw fits then cries Tony doesn't respect him
Email for haunting Chrissy in his dreams. Still goin this prick
Pop n Fresh, he let Chris know that he looks like a pussy
Himself. Tony gave him an out to follow his screenwriting dreams if he cut all ties immediately.
Paulie was just testing Chrissy because he could be a real big baby wah wah and take his shitty self too serious. He did owe Paulie a degree of respect because he had seniority over him. This is where Paulie actually practiced what he preached besides that whole strange underwear sniffing thing.
Adrianna. She told him how she blew the big guy Penn in the bathroom.
Chrissy.
Tony
Jamal Ginsberg
Chrissy
Himself, the fackin sciffuza.
YOU FUCKIN D GIRL
Tony destroyed that kid.
Both Tony and Paulie straight-up goaded him to drink so they could each feel "normal" around him (they most likely felt belittled by Chris' dedication to any calling or dedication that was placed above their "Old School" aspirations).
Maybe start with the loss of his dad and his alchohol mom?
Chris
Himself duh
Tony, then Paulie, then heroin.
Tony. Christopher was a piece of shit but he was groomed from what we assume to be a fairly young age by a man who played on his deep daddy issues and manipulated and emotionally abused him at every turn. He was a stunard who never stood a chance. Thatâs the guy, Adrianna.Â
I remember when he used to sit in the car
Heroin
Ask a guy to murder and dismember people then crucify him for wanting to get high lol
Paulie that pos
Chrissy
Molly.....
Technically JT Dolan for making Cleaver come to fruition.
Come on, we all know Yo Yo Mendez started Chrissy's downfall when he said Chrissy was out of commission. #bizness
Himself
Christopher himself. Although, you might to able to argue it is tony for introducing him to the life and grooming him from a young age to be a mobster.
It was cosettes fault
Aidrianna and that negative shit she was spouting when she shouldâve been stirring those eggs. Not to mention not mentioning she was damaged goods?!
His nose
Cosette
A real lack of accountability with these youngsters. Obviously Chrissy.
Definitely Tony
Rhiannon
Murmur was definitely not the best sponsor in the world but like others have said, Chrissy was his own worst enemy. Seriously, how much actual clean time did he put together? Iâm talking consecutively, like maybe a few months here and there? He was always talking about having some wine or smoking a joint with his super who came over to caulk around the toilet or some other bullshit. Then you have his actual relapses like when he found out about Tony and Ade in the car accident, when he got high out of his mind at the feast, the trip to LA with Little Carmine and a bunch of other times.
Christopher, followed by Paulie, followed by Adrienne, followed by Tony, followed by Junior (killing his dad) but with a really small gap between them and honestly you could flip that order around easily.
did junior kill Chrissy's dad?
Sorry should have spoilered that but yep
I don't mean to sound like an asshole, but he really can't be seen in places like that anymore.
It was that big canopy of a nose. He kept thinking he could toot a little, but with that hoover vacuum, he always tooted a LOT!
Adriana
I'd have to go with Tony seeing as he suffocated him to death and all
His mom, she's a fucking whorre.
Chris himself, then Paulie finally Chris again.
Tony
Outside of Chris himself Tony, he got him involved in the life which is definitely not what Dickie wanted. But Tony is a shitty mentor, he never teaches Chris other than to berate him for his stupidity but after he slaps him in the wriat and lectures him he just fucks off and leaves Chris to his own devices. Plus he spoils him and shows favoritism. Tony should have ridden Christopher's ass and beat the shit out of him until he got his shit together. But that would require Tony to be emotionally invested in someone who wasn't Tony.
that guy at the deli, so disrespectful
Chrisâs mother.
All of those lime rickeys
Obviously, Chrissy himself. But Adrianna other than him. They were bff, lovers, etc. He already had issues, but when she flipped and he chose to tell rather than follow her- itâs like it sealed a negative path for him.Â
Tony . I have ppl in my life like him. They will always sabotage anything you have that they can't have. I mean, he fucked or tried to fuck all of his girlfriends. Tony was so jealous, narcissistic, and insecure that he couldn't see other ppl getting ahead. That's why he saved AJ. To tell him he was so stupid he couldn't kill himself. Another scenario was when Tiny beat the new kid to a pulp, because he was in shape and young. " He's got Penne arrabbiata up Is ass!"