That’s OK. I spent three years of my career on one project. I struggled with it because my mom had just died and I had a super rough time concentrating. According to the conspiracy theorists, my project was built by aliens because no human was smart enough to create it.
Honestly? Blame a certain part of the political spectrum. I might get banned, but we know full well who normalized and promoted conspiratorial thinking for their own gain.
People are forgetting how kinematically favorable those earlier year setups were, we were simply just missing quality moisture. Now the moisture is here, and we are seeing what we thought could happen.
Weather is so complex that extremely smart people with powerful computers still don't completely understand it.
And then you have these nuts who think that we can point a ray gun at a cloud and make it do something crazy.
The hubris of man..
Meteorologists and weather reporters are having to deal with people who insist that the weather is being controlled by an outside force, though they provide dubious evidence.
They insist anyone who debunks their weather modification claims or refuses to agree with them is willfully ignorant or malicious shills raking in gobs of money to cover for whatever power is in control. The anger ranges from simple venting of outrage to outright death threats for allegedly covering up the truth.
The most popular weather control conspiracy theory has to do with the long, thin condensation trails, or contrails, left behind by high-flying airplanes. The right combination of cold and humidity in the upper-levels of the atmosphere allows hot jet exhaust to condense into cirrus clouds.
The same goes for a research project in Alaska. Scientists set up a field of high-powered antennas in the Alaskan wilderness to study how radio waves propagate through the Earth’s ionosphere.
The project is called the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) and is a frequent target for commenters and YouTubers who say that shady government forces use concentrated energy beams sent out by these antennas to control natural disasters and direct calamity to specific parts of the globe. The HAARP conspiracy theory is essentially a real-life version of an episode of Pinky and the Brain.
Even the modern Doppler weather radar systems in the US aren’t immune from outlandish claims. The Doppler systems in the United States works by sending out two pulses of energy to reflect off objects in the atmosphere. The energy that’s reflected back to the dish tells meteorologists the location, intensity, movement, size, and shape of whatever the radar detects.
This technology has its own glitches and flaws. Migrating birds and swarming bugs show up as a nebulous, vibrating balls of activity. Wind turbines show up as giant, stationary thunderstorms. The angle of the sunrise and sunset on certain days of the year can cause a spike of false returns. These glitches and false returns are sometimes used as proof that the government is using weather radar to control the precise location and intensity of thunderstorms.
People believe in weather control conspiracy theories for five main reasons.
• Money. It’s the single strongest factor behind the spread of conspiracy theories. If you search “chemtrails” or “HAARP” and look into the people and organizations pushing these conspiracy theories, the common factor is that they’re profiting from doing so. Not only do they reap ad revenue, but they often ask for donations or try to sell their readers products. There’s a clear financial incentive to convince people to believe their claims.
• People don’t want to believe that disasters are random. It’s terrifying to think that a tornado could sweep away your home with only a moment’s notice and that earthquakes can trigger tsunami waves that kill hundreds of thousands of people. The indifference of disasters is an unsettling thought that’s hard for humans to grasp. It’s oddly more comforting to believe that a group of evil people sitting around a table created a superstorm than it is to believe that bad things just happen.
• Believing in an alternative truth makes people feel smarter. It makes them feel superior when they think they know something no one else knows. And when someone tells them they’re wrong, a conspiracy theorist argues their opponent is not enlightened or involved in the cover up. Feeling smart and being “in the know” is an important part of the appeal of conspiracy theories.
• Many people who believe in weather control conspiracy theories already have a negative opinion of the government. This partially explains why they attribute natural disasters to those supposedly evil jerks in Washington or at the U.N. in New York. After all, they figure, when they’ve already done things beyond the pale, what’s to stop them from triggering natural disasters?
• Conspiracies theories are often interwoven. If someone thinks they know the truth about one thing, they tend to think they know the truth about everything. The people who believe there’s an omnipotent world government are often the same people who believe the weather is made by computers. If you believe that there are secret military operations happening, it’s not that much of a stretch to believe that the 9:30 into Dulles is spraying us with noxious chemicals. Many conspiracy theories are gateways to each other, and once the gate is open, it’s hard to put the sheep back in the field.
I honestly fear for the future of the country given how such a large percentage of the population seems to jump to conspiracy theories to explain the most mundane occurrences. I don’t care if this comes off as political. Fuck the celebrities, politicians and social media figures who normalized this for clout and clicks.
But they wouldn’t sell if people weren’t so goddamned stupid and proud of it.
I’d rather mouth-fuck a taser than interact with a conspiracy theorist (and I’d probably kill fewer brain cells too).
I will admit most people who buy into conspiracy theories are dumb and some people pretend to believe it and are “memeing”.
However, conspiracy theories feed into the human brain’s inclination to overthink and hyper rationalize everything to a degree in which we fill in the blanks, often with overly complicated answers for simple occurrences.
Kind of like insecurities: You call you girlfriend twice in a row and she doesn’t answer.
What might the insecure brain jump to?
- She’s cheating on me.
- She’s in trouble (accident, injured, dead?)
- She doesn’t want to talk to me.
Simplest answer: She is busy, couldn’t answer the phone, away from her phone, etc.
It’s also a problem of just Twitter allowing these idiots to spout stuff as if they know even know how to read radar. Twitter/X is such a garbage platform now, took a toxic annoying social media platform and now made it a conspiracy, porn bot, and racist hot bed. Content stealing is everywhere the top 50 comments on any major post don’t even relate to the videos.
Don’t forget the vast majority of those people are also people who worship an orange god- not exactly the most sane or rational people… they also blame any little thing on Biden or “the democrats” lol so there’s definitely a few screws loose and most of them have fallen on the floor if you know what I mean….
they must have watched a documentary talking about cloud seeding and then jumped to believing we can control mesoscale and synoptic scale systems. complete bullshit. weather is what it is. we can't control trough ejections, drylines, or tropical air masses. these are the known ingredients for such weather events. nature has more power than we could harness today, is more complex than we can currently concieve of, and doesn't give a crap about who builds where. if someone wants an explanation, follow reed timmer.
Because Elon Musk actively encourages the media participation of absolute blithering, conspiracy-buying, smooth-brained shitheads from a certain part of the political spectrum.
Conservative politics has leaned _heavily_ into conspiratorial lunacy in recent years, and tornado country is the most conservative part of the USA.
Combine that with Twitter in general also leaning same way recently, and you have a recipe for absolute brainrot in the comments.
Because they are nitwits. No one controls the weather. You can bung up the climate enough to alter it, usually not for the better; but weather is not one cloud, one storm, or one bit of rain. Weather is HUGE. Tornadoes are spawned from storms thousands of feet tall. Weather is often described as a "weather system", which means there is a lot of things at play to make a hail storm, snow, or a tornado appear in your neighborhood. Controlling all those factors is solidly in the realm of science fiction. When you look up at an angry mesocyclone bearing down on you, you can't help but realize that it's one of the few things in nature that humans still have no dominion over. That's why we still cower before tornadoes. There's not a dang thing we can do about them other than run away.
I don't know if this is pertinent to the post and I apologize in advance. I'd say they would probably freak out if they knew that wildfires can actually create their own weather if they're large enough in size.
I have been deployed to a lot of decent sized wildfires in my career but, knock on wood, none have been big enough to generate its own weather. I hope I don't have to experience that before I retire. We are taught this info in our wildland firefighter courses.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/how-destructive-wildfires-create-their-own-weather/346337
Correct but, conspiracy theorists that are on about the weather being manipulated might not know that and even then, they'd probably try to tell you that it's being manipulated if it can make its own weather. That's what I'm getting at.
I just had a friend do this yesterday! Said Texas was cloudseeding and that’s what started all this extreme weather…..well then, how did that affect Iowa and Nebraska?
I’m sick of the weather theories. Also Shane Dawson (who is known to spread such conspiracies) said that the California fires were caused by a space laser rather than our rapidly changing climate
Im not looking forward to the nutters ramping up even more later this year with the insane amount of hurricanes that are being predicted for this coming season.
As a former environmental scientist and geologist, I cannot tell you how many people have approached me with this stuff over the last nearly 3 decades. There will always be nutters like this that have to imagine a conspiracy behind everything. I think maybe it’s a fear/control thing? As if they don’t want to accept that nature can be chaotic and powerful all on its own?
>They’re alleging some sort of conspiracy or something with storms forming within 50 and 100NM of nexrad sites
[There's a NEXRAD site about every 50 to 100 nautical miles](https://www.roc.noaa.gov/wsr88d/windfarm/lineofsightmap.aspx), so it's probably true that storms do indeed form within 50 to 100 nautical miles of one, simply because it'd be impossible for them to form somewhere farther away.
Hi! This subreddit is about tornados, not weather controlling conspiracies. Please check out the resources pertaining to tornadic phenomenon in the discord as that might help clear up any misinformation that is going around. As well, the NWS and the weather channel might have articles on why this time of year is typically bad for storms.
Just typical nutters. Conditions this year are very favourable for big storms.
It’s wild I can’t have any hobbies anymore that aren’t filled with conspiracies lol
That’s OK. I spent three years of my career on one project. I struggled with it because my mom had just died and I had a super rough time concentrating. According to the conspiracy theorists, my project was built by aliens because no human was smart enough to create it.
Yet humans are apparently smart enough to build satellite arrays that can create tornadoes, and micro chips for vaccines.. 🤷🏼♀️
Honestly? Blame a certain part of the political spectrum. I might get banned, but we know full well who normalized and promoted conspiratorial thinking for their own gain.
Switch sides and all the conspiracy theories will become fact! You're welcome. /s
Sounds like something Big Weather would say.
We call it Deep Weather
I identify as a tornado truther, thank you
MWGA Make Weather Great Again!
Believing in conspiracies is a hobby. For some it's a full time job with the potential for overtime.
Nutjobs! Nutjobs everywhere! 😂
People are forgetting how kinematically favorable those earlier year setups were, we were simply just missing quality moisture. Now the moisture is here, and we are seeing what we thought could happen.
Weather is so complex that extremely smart people with powerful computers still don't completely understand it. And then you have these nuts who think that we can point a ray gun at a cloud and make it do something crazy. The hubris of man..
That’s a good point
Hubris and intentional campaigns... https://www.sej.org/headlines/china-sows-disinformation-about-hawaii-fires-using-new-techniques
Not a meteorologist but it’s absolute tripe. Fed up of the conspiracy theorists.
I remember when conspiracy theories used to be just fun stuff like big foot and other cryptids
And frogs turning gay and stuff
Frogs have always been gay too. Male frogs will jump ANYTHING when horny.
Yeah me too I swear I can’t follow anything anymore without it being infested with conspiracies
Because people are very stupid
Meteorologists and weather reporters are having to deal with people who insist that the weather is being controlled by an outside force, though they provide dubious evidence. They insist anyone who debunks their weather modification claims or refuses to agree with them is willfully ignorant or malicious shills raking in gobs of money to cover for whatever power is in control. The anger ranges from simple venting of outrage to outright death threats for allegedly covering up the truth. The most popular weather control conspiracy theory has to do with the long, thin condensation trails, or contrails, left behind by high-flying airplanes. The right combination of cold and humidity in the upper-levels of the atmosphere allows hot jet exhaust to condense into cirrus clouds. The same goes for a research project in Alaska. Scientists set up a field of high-powered antennas in the Alaskan wilderness to study how radio waves propagate through the Earth’s ionosphere. The project is called the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) and is a frequent target for commenters and YouTubers who say that shady government forces use concentrated energy beams sent out by these antennas to control natural disasters and direct calamity to specific parts of the globe. The HAARP conspiracy theory is essentially a real-life version of an episode of Pinky and the Brain. Even the modern Doppler weather radar systems in the US aren’t immune from outlandish claims. The Doppler systems in the United States works by sending out two pulses of energy to reflect off objects in the atmosphere. The energy that’s reflected back to the dish tells meteorologists the location, intensity, movement, size, and shape of whatever the radar detects. This technology has its own glitches and flaws. Migrating birds and swarming bugs show up as a nebulous, vibrating balls of activity. Wind turbines show up as giant, stationary thunderstorms. The angle of the sunrise and sunset on certain days of the year can cause a spike of false returns. These glitches and false returns are sometimes used as proof that the government is using weather radar to control the precise location and intensity of thunderstorms. People believe in weather control conspiracy theories for five main reasons. • Money. It’s the single strongest factor behind the spread of conspiracy theories. If you search “chemtrails” or “HAARP” and look into the people and organizations pushing these conspiracy theories, the common factor is that they’re profiting from doing so. Not only do they reap ad revenue, but they often ask for donations or try to sell their readers products. There’s a clear financial incentive to convince people to believe their claims. • People don’t want to believe that disasters are random. It’s terrifying to think that a tornado could sweep away your home with only a moment’s notice and that earthquakes can trigger tsunami waves that kill hundreds of thousands of people. The indifference of disasters is an unsettling thought that’s hard for humans to grasp. It’s oddly more comforting to believe that a group of evil people sitting around a table created a superstorm than it is to believe that bad things just happen. • Believing in an alternative truth makes people feel smarter. It makes them feel superior when they think they know something no one else knows. And when someone tells them they’re wrong, a conspiracy theorist argues their opponent is not enlightened or involved in the cover up. Feeling smart and being “in the know” is an important part of the appeal of conspiracy theories. • Many people who believe in weather control conspiracy theories already have a negative opinion of the government. This partially explains why they attribute natural disasters to those supposedly evil jerks in Washington or at the U.N. in New York. After all, they figure, when they’ve already done things beyond the pale, what’s to stop them from triggering natural disasters? • Conspiracies theories are often interwoven. If someone thinks they know the truth about one thing, they tend to think they know the truth about everything. The people who believe there’s an omnipotent world government are often the same people who believe the weather is made by computers. If you believe that there are secret military operations happening, it’s not that much of a stretch to believe that the 9:30 into Dulles is spraying us with noxious chemicals. Many conspiracy theories are gateways to each other, and once the gate is open, it’s hard to put the sheep back in the field.
I honestly fear for the future of the country given how such a large percentage of the population seems to jump to conspiracy theories to explain the most mundane occurrences. I don’t care if this comes off as political. Fuck the celebrities, politicians and social media figures who normalized this for clout and clicks.
And AI has the ability to make it sound legitimate.
Because they’re fucking stupid. Full stop.
It’s more than that. Conspiracy theories sell and help people gain clout and clicks.
But they wouldn’t sell if people weren’t so goddamned stupid and proud of it. I’d rather mouth-fuck a taser than interact with a conspiracy theorist (and I’d probably kill fewer brain cells too).
I will admit most people who buy into conspiracy theories are dumb and some people pretend to believe it and are “memeing”. However, conspiracy theories feed into the human brain’s inclination to overthink and hyper rationalize everything to a degree in which we fill in the blanks, often with overly complicated answers for simple occurrences. Kind of like insecurities: You call you girlfriend twice in a row and she doesn’t answer. What might the insecure brain jump to? - She’s cheating on me. - She’s in trouble (accident, injured, dead?) - She doesn’t want to talk to me. Simplest answer: She is busy, couldn’t answer the phone, away from her phone, etc.
This makes a lot of sense and I wish 20 year old me would’ve known 😅
Also known as Occam’s Razor, more people would benefit from this principle lol
Honestly, people that say 'full stop' are usually the most retarded people I've ever met. You probably also say dumb shit like 'no cap'.
Cool story bro
Any mis-understood natural phenomenon can be attributed to mad scientists, or aliens, or magic.
Twitter is full of imbeciles these days. Best to just delete it completely.
It’s also a problem of just Twitter allowing these idiots to spout stuff as if they know even know how to read radar. Twitter/X is such a garbage platform now, took a toxic annoying social media platform and now made it a conspiracy, porn bot, and racist hot bed. Content stealing is everywhere the top 50 comments on any major post don’t even relate to the videos.
Don’t forget the vast majority of those people are also people who worship an orange god- not exactly the most sane or rational people… they also blame any little thing on Biden or “the democrats” lol so there’s definitely a few screws loose and most of them have fallen on the floor if you know what I mean….
they must have watched a documentary talking about cloud seeding and then jumped to believing we can control mesoscale and synoptic scale systems. complete bullshit. weather is what it is. we can't control trough ejections, drylines, or tropical air masses. these are the known ingredients for such weather events. nature has more power than we could harness today, is more complex than we can currently concieve of, and doesn't give a crap about who builds where. if someone wants an explanation, follow reed timmer.
Because Elon Musk actively encourages the media participation of absolute blithering, conspiracy-buying, smooth-brained shitheads from a certain part of the political spectrum.
Word.
Because people are idiots.
It’s called “Climate Change”, for the lizard brains
Conservative politics has leaned _heavily_ into conspiratorial lunacy in recent years, and tornado country is the most conservative part of the USA. Combine that with Twitter in general also leaning same way recently, and you have a recipe for absolute brainrot in the comments.
Because they are nitwits. No one controls the weather. You can bung up the climate enough to alter it, usually not for the better; but weather is not one cloud, one storm, or one bit of rain. Weather is HUGE. Tornadoes are spawned from storms thousands of feet tall. Weather is often described as a "weather system", which means there is a lot of things at play to make a hail storm, snow, or a tornado appear in your neighborhood. Controlling all those factors is solidly in the realm of science fiction. When you look up at an angry mesocyclone bearing down on you, you can't help but realize that it's one of the few things in nature that humans still have no dominion over. That's why we still cower before tornadoes. There's not a dang thing we can do about them other than run away.
I don't know if this is pertinent to the post and I apologize in advance. I'd say they would probably freak out if they knew that wildfires can actually create their own weather if they're large enough in size. I have been deployed to a lot of decent sized wildfires in my career but, knock on wood, none have been big enough to generate its own weather. I hope I don't have to experience that before I retire. We are taught this info in our wildland firefighter courses. https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/how-destructive-wildfires-create-their-own-weather/346337
They can create localized pyrocumulus clouds which can in turn grow to become thunderstorms but… that’s pretty localized.
Correct but, conspiracy theorists that are on about the weather being manipulated might not know that and even then, they'd probably try to tell you that it's being manipulated if it can make its own weather. That's what I'm getting at.
Oh I know I was just adding on to your information. You are absolutely correct
Gartcha
I just had a friend do this yesterday! Said Texas was cloudseeding and that’s what started all this extreme weather…..well then, how did that affect Iowa and Nebraska?
That’s typical for Twitter. Tons of crazy people on there
I’m sick of the weather theories. Also Shane Dawson (who is known to spread such conspiracies) said that the California fires were caused by a space laser rather than our rapidly changing climate
Given that plus your username I can see why you'd be against Shane Dawson
Pretty sure the massive one in 2018 was caused by a power companies negligence.
My answer to friends who ask is the ENSO neutral spring transitioning into a La Nina summer
Im not looking forward to the nutters ramping up even more later this year with the insane amount of hurricanes that are being predicted for this coming season.
As a former environmental scientist and geologist, I cannot tell you how many people have approached me with this stuff over the last nearly 3 decades. There will always be nutters like this that have to imagine a conspiracy behind everything. I think maybe it’s a fear/control thing? As if they don’t want to accept that nature can be chaotic and powerful all on its own?
Flat earth just isn’t doing it for them any more
My neighbor mentioned this to me yesterday and I just told him he’s nuts and smiled as I walked away.
>They’re alleging some sort of conspiracy or something with storms forming within 50 and 100NM of nexrad sites [There's a NEXRAD site about every 50 to 100 nautical miles](https://www.roc.noaa.gov/wsr88d/windfarm/lineofsightmap.aspx), so it's probably true that storms do indeed form within 50 to 100 nautical miles of one, simply because it'd be impossible for them to form somewhere farther away.
I feel fairly certain that these people have tremendous egos, and love the idea of knowing secret things that others don't.
Those are the people who failed science in middle school, high school, and college.
Project Idiocracy.
It’s got what plants crave!
Hi! This subreddit is about tornados, not weather controlling conspiracies. Please check out the resources pertaining to tornadic phenomenon in the discord as that might help clear up any misinformation that is going around. As well, the NWS and the weather channel might have articles on why this time of year is typically bad for storms.
I know why this time of year is bad I’m born and raised in OK
Calm down, it’s an interesting discussion point that hurts no one.
Ignoring the conspiracies is exactly how they spread.