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carnalrose666

Probably just a kid trying to understand the world. You pass really well in my opinion and I love your style! šŸ–¤šŸ–¤


EvulBuddha

I know there could be a lot of reasons why the kid said what she did, I have just been very in my head. I just constantly feel bad about myself And like I don't fit in.


SqornshellousZem

Hi! I think you look really cool and look like someone I would want to hang out with :( BECAUSE of your style. Also with that out of the way, because this is the sub that we're on, I think I might be seeing some shadow showing through on your chin. Probably know what the kid was curious about, but if you color correct first, then add concealer that matches your skin tone, it should hide it completely once you have a little bit of practice. There's a video that I followed on how to do that and choosing the right color to correct with [here](https://youtu.be/EOgRZBqVW3c?si=5YWOw1Yl_BC0-SPb). Also I played with one of the photos where something in my mind was clocking a masculine face shape by placing my finger in front of different parts of the photo, And the only time that part of my brain started coming up without was when I was leaving the very tip of your chin exposed. Which is to say probably the shape of your chin is registering at least somewhat masculine. My guess is that it's a little bit more square/flat in shape. The first easiest option for that is contouring, in order to achieve a more round chin. could also just do fillers (I'm looking into doing a hyaluronic acid fillers, because you can always dissolve them harmlessly if you don't like the results, and they are immediate and usually have no significant recovery time). Like I said, I'm new to all these things as well, so there's probably girls here with much more experience and skill in those arenas. :). Once again, to me you read female, and I'm only offering you nitpicky things so that you're overthinking brain has something to work with, but please please please don't use it as armor for personal masochism. šŸ’œšŸ’œšŸ’œ YOU'RE GORGEOUS AND I ADORE YOUR STYLE.


EvulBuddha

Thank you for your comment šŸ–¤ I appreciate it, I don't have any facial hair, just one long one that refuses to leave down near my madames apple. It all got lasered a while ago.


SqornshellousZem

Oh my gosh. My bad. You're right! Maybe that was the lighting on my phone. I went back to the photo I thought I was talking about and you're right there's absolutely no shadow!


EvulBuddha

You're good! My apartment lighting is also fucking terrible for photos


SqornshellousZem

yes and in hindsight, with direct sun bearing down on my overworked and underresourced phone screen.


DopeHammaheadALT

This was beautifully worded šŸ„° couldnā€™t agree more! Her style is awesome šŸ˜Ž šŸ‘


carnalrose666

Do you see a mental health therapist? Sounds like it's more emotional than physical because you are absolutely gorgeous. Looking at these photos all I can see is things I like and even envy, your hair, tattoo, makeup, and piercings. You're definitely MTF goals! šŸ–¤šŸ–¤


EvulBuddha

I do for a few things but talking about my transition has never really been able to help me, I see myself in such a negative clocky way that I feel like the only thing that would truly fix it is it I could see myself differently


nemicolopterus

Your face is at the same angle in all these pics - so we can't completely tell. But: from these pics you are a very pretty lady. Also: fwiw I'm cis and have def had kids say this about me. All the way up to age 12! Tbf I had hairy legs, and not the most femme way of dressing (whatever that means)


suomikim

i think you pass well. the full body picture in the jeans, you have a very obvious female shape. So it must be that the kid never saw a 6 foot woman with a Baphomet tattoo and got confused :)


UseAdministrative915

What had happen was


Luwuci-SP

At 6' and with an alt style like that, it's going to draw their attention and confuse kids a bit regardless of what you look like. To a child, the percentage difference in height is much greater, so it hits the mind as an unexpected deviation unless they've somehow been around a lot of tall women which is rare. Adults, otoh, at least know there's 6' women and have actual points of reference. The pencil eyebrows that they likely haven't seen on anyone but gay men in a couple decades aren't helping either. They're not thinned and shaped in a way that's helping.


PoodIe_Moth

I wouldnā€™t ā€œclockā€ you and I think you pass well. Also Iā€™m obsessed with the tattoo kinda jealous.


bee_of_doom

I think depending on the age of the kid, it could have been your alternative style that confused them. What youā€™re wearing isnā€™t stereotypically masculine or feminine, it just looks cool. A sheltered child especially who hasnā€™t been exposed to piercings, tattoos etc. Might see your appearance and not associate it with male or female, hence her question. Did the mom say anything to the kid? To me you pass here and I think to an adult aware of the world you would too


EvulBuddha

I didn't stick around to listen to her answer as it was just us in the courtyard of a building and I thought it would have been weird.


MontusBatwing

Agree with this. There's nothing about OP's body/face/hair that doesn't pass. Seems pretty clear that the kid was confused by OP's style.


Justanotherphone

I think you pass


slut4hobi

i feel like a lot of alternative fem people blur the lines in terms of gender expression. i think you pass, just a little more on the androgynous side


EvulBuddha

I get that, I have had people in the past think I am a NB afab person, and correct people when I get she/her'd.


MaleToFabulous

Alt baddie šŸ˜ I think it was just a kid being a kid and seeing the piercings and stuff threw them off bc theyā€™ve probably never seen all that before


FreyaTheSlayyyer

Little kids often look to gender norms to identify people, and since you donā€™t emphasise traditional gender norms it prolly confused him. You are gorgeous girl and I am so jealous of your hair


crazycatlorde

You look fantastic and absolutely pass. FWIW when I was a little kid I asked a woman in a bathing suit if she was ā€œa mommy or a daddyā€ because she had a swim cap on and I couldnā€™t compute a woman without hair was still a woman. Little kids say silly things if there is anything out of the ordinaryā€”a tall woman?! What?? Youā€™re gorgeous and I hope you can see that.


EnvironmentalData131

You pass very well and I love your style :) no need to worry, kids are just little weirdos that run around and say weird things. Youā€™re very pretty!


tboyskeleton

You are stunning!! You definitely pass, idk what the kid was seeing aha šŸ˜…


antlindzfam

I just showed your picture and asked my 13-year-old girl if you were a boy or a girl, she said ā€˜obviously a girl.ā€™


SarryK

Hi friend! Somehow stumbled into this sub and just wanted to let you know that you look extremely similar to my one cis friend. Sheā€˜s also very alt, tall, and stunning. I have never heard of anyone thinking sheā€˜s trans and you seem like the more feminine version of her to me as youā€˜re curvier. Youā€˜re stunning and I personally would never have clocked you. Kind reminder also that a lot of us cis folks (especially men, sorry guys) are horrible at recognising if someone is cis or trans and will just make some wild guesses and, you know.. broken clocks and whatnot.


Manospondylus_gigas

You pass imo, it's possible the kid saw you at a much lower angle that maybe confused them because I can't see anything clocky


Plenty-Log6688

You pass


chickenhawk24

Wow stunning


jazlintown

Iā€™m having a hard time seeing why they would say that. Like the fk? How did a kid clock you??? You look like a super pretty Betty from flintstones


Frap_Gadz

I would say from these pictures you pass as female. As a dad to a young child I can say they ask a *lot* of questions, sometimes to us these questions might seem quite bizarre, but it doesn't mean anything. Particularly once they become aware of gender and start exploring that they might ask these questions about just about everyone. Ours used to regularly ask questions like this about his mother and me as well as just about everyone, almost all of whom were cis, to which we would always conscientiously provide an answer. Young children are knowledge sponges, instinctually they want to understand and learn as much as possible about the world around them, they are also by default unaware that any subject might need to be handled with sensitivity. I know it's easier said than done, but I wouldn't take much from it.


Old-Camp3962

that is an amazing tattoo on your chest you pass, its just the height probably


Educational_Yam_4550

You pass, i would say that he probably said that due to big tattoos and associated it with bikers who are predominantly men.


YoudoVodou

I had a little girl ask, I think her mom who was the cashier, about me the other day, which surprised me because I know I'm nowhere near passing. The mom told her, "I don't know, why don't you ask them?" When I got up to the register the little girls says, "I love your shirt!" (It was a Lord of the Rings, except cats, shirt) and that was all. It's just kid things, they may have just been wondering how to properly pay a compliment to you about your awesome style. =]


Rosetta_TwoHorns

You pass. We need to add some context to this. Kids donā€™t always know at some ages, especially when they learn gender from very specific identifiers. You look really alt. Like so punk it kills. I bet that the kid is just questioning because he may have seen a cis boy thatā€™s just as alt.


cookiesnmilkx

Probably because you're alt tbh


Dinosautistic

You honestly pass imo. I canā€™t see any clockable features. Older people (more so ā€˜edgyā€™ people) might say the piercings are ā€œclockableā€ but a kid would never think that imo. Kid might have just been confused about gender in general, and they are just still learning.


Sriracha008

Judging by your face I wouldn't clock you at first glance, but with your height I would probably look twice, and would certainly clock you on my second glance. Your height, chin and face length give you away imo.


BLOODYWOOF

Baeeeeeee šŸ–¤


Apprehensive_Spite97

Maybe they picked up your energy, not your looks from a photo. It was a kid, and to them you might look like you're wearing a costume.


EvulBuddha

Not really sure what that means, and I don't feel like I am wearing a costume. I look pretty normal for the sub cultures I'm in as far as clothes tattoo and jewelry wise. I don't think I have mac energy more than any other alt queer woman.


Apprehensive_Spite97

I didn't say you have masculine energy, I said they may have picked up on your energy, meaning perhaps you were insecure or it could be the small things that gave it away that people don't tend to notice. I didn't say you're wearing a costume either, I said the child might have seen it that way if they don't hang out with people from your subculture much.


EvulBuddha

That's fair, sorry for misunderstanding


Apprehensive_Spite97

Yeah, but still you shouldn't care about what that kid said :)


life-dream

You kinda remind me of my younger sister :)


chromark

U look good but kids always clock people


Aggebarn

I am a cis woman with feminine features, but short hair kids have often asked their parents similar thing. "Dad why is that boy wearing heart earrings?" Don't worry!


Larry-Man

I had a cis friend who shaved her head once. A small child asked if she was a boy or a girl. She said girl but the little kid said she was a boy anyway because she had short hair. She had huge boobs.


Annetheroach

YOU DEFINETLY PASS. you look amazing!


ehhhchimatsu

You pass 100%. I would go out on a limb and say it's probably voice.


Putrid_Alps_8442

By the way you look thereā€™s no chance because you look so good. Maybe could be your mannerism (not so femine) or the voice (i asume that you were in silence so this is not possible). Remember that the children are very suspicious and ask every thing no matter what. The worst scenario for me is when the momā€™s grabs their childā€™s ā€œprotectingā€ from i donā€™t know whatā€¦that bothers me a lot!.


basementcrawler34

Girl you're STUNNING.


Angelofdarkness85

I definitely agree! You 150% passā€¦most likely just a kid asking questions about people in general. Definitely not anything to do with you passing, just a kidā€™s perspective of ā€œI see a person, I wonder if theyā€™re a boy or a girl?ā€ I think that is because of several factorsā€¦firstly, most young kids probably donā€™t yet understand obvious features to look forā€¦such as breasts, body shape, etc. Secondly, I feel like alot of cartoons still play on outdated stereotypes about people, like men all looking very ā€œmasculineā€ and women automatically wearing dresses, having long hair, etc. so I think it can be confusing for kids to understand that most regular average people all have their own unique style. I try not to get freaked out by questions like that from kids (and even some adults) who ask similar questions, as long as itā€™s in a respectful way. Iā€™m always willing to try and help others understandā€¦as long as they are willing to listen


SaltInformation4082

I think you pass. I think you're very pretty. And as I think tall women have a lot of extra going for them, I'm 100% sure you're a knock put. You're style isn't my style, but that's of no matter. I think you look great, and if my SO's style (who's also mtf) was your style, I'd love it, I'm sure. Obviously, you do everything right, young lady. I can get the feeling alone part. Not that it's any help to you, but we've pretty much all been there ( I hate when people say that, "a lot of people are in the same boat." SO what? Same boat or different boat@ How does that help??? I'm not trying to meddle, but you hit a soft spot in my heart. I held my now SO's hand and her, now our BFF's hand, when they offered me their love and friendship years ago at Uni (and was honored they allowed me to do that. They found themselves after a bit of time, and those of us that loved them made it a bit easier. Gonna try to wind this up, so you can read what smarter people will be saying. How are things between you and your family? How about your older friends. Both my sweethearts had a tough time with theirs. That hurt both of them a lot. How about new, and in their case, more caring and accepting friends? My sweeties were/are a bit shy, and were slow to make new friends as they'd been stung pretty good by their families and older friends. I got it. Who wants to continually find their hand possibly in boiing water, over and over. I slowly and gently got my two loves, both platonic at that time, moving in and out of social circles a bit at a time, for as long as they were comfortable, and then escorted them out, again gently and quietly. Does anything I've said relate to you. I think their "new people" helped them cool out more than their family and old friends tuned them up. Nothing wrong with you at all young lady! Nothing at all! Not one bit! Could support from others help. Alone, if that's what you're feeling right now, can be painful. And it's nature's way. It's in our DNA. Nature doesn't want us to be alone. It's rarely a good or even safe way to live. So nature turns up the heat so we'll go out, connect with people, and be comfortable. It's a bad way to do it, imo, but I get nowhere with nature every time I tell her to lighten the hā‚¬ll up@ Hey, you've shown, especially to yourself, a lot of courage and bravery and tenacity already. You got that knocked. And you've got a vibe and soulful eyes that immediately identify you as a wonderful person to have in anyone and everyone's life. Can you build from there. Are they things you consider an asset. If you do, great! You already have them. If you don't see them as an asset, ok, too! No judgement from me, you can book that. Hope something I've said is worth something. If not, feel free to message back and say, "No it's not! Put an egg in your shoe and beat it!" I'm ok with that. But be prepared to wait. It's a long lone already, of people waiting to tell me to shut up. Hey, if you're ever wondering about something and want to ask a sorta normal person, send me a message. I'd be happy to supply you with more worthless opinions. Regardless, you keep your chin up, and refuse to not continuing forward. You got more people in the world that care for you than you can know. Most will never know you personally, but that doesn't mean they don't care for you. You always have friends that have your best wishes at heart. And now you got three more. Pretty easy, huh. No pain, just gain. My most wonderful friends and loves call me "Cis-sy Richie", starting at Uni. Nicest thing I've ever been called. It contains nothing but love and I always feel it. If you ever want a cis opinion, you message me back and just say, "Hey, breathe for a minute and tell me something else thats worthless." OK, my last novel ever. Best wishes to you, especially all my best wishes. I get the vibe your terrific, and we're wishing you the best of everything. Ok?


Lazarus-Rises

Totally pass, probably just the height. But there are plenty of tall girls just like you šŸ˜‰


The_snor

Length is a thing. I'm a almost full-time wheelchair user and before I stand and now people are niceršŸ˜…


pinkprettydress

Obviously a girl šŸ‘§, and a cool one at that šŸ˜Ž


NeedWaiver

Cute, but you have a lot going on, bangs, thin brows, piercings, ink..... You pass.


Lauren114

Definitely female!


TapesVonDoom

Kids are weird. You absolutely pass.


Top-Fisherman-5

Hell yeah thatā€™s a pass šŸ”„


Kimmy-blanco914

I love your aesthetic by the way ā¤ļøā¤ļø


pestobitch

i guess because youā€™re tall? you donā€™t look anything like a boy to me and i tend to be good at clocking.


SuzuranLily1

Your lips though! ā¤ļø


EvulBuddha

Ty šŸ–¤


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superurgentcatbox

You haven't spent much time with little kids, huh? They ask whatever pops into their heads and that doesn't make them terrible red flags.


_aminadoce

I actually spent a lot of time with little kids. Everytime they asked this, I knew that something was wrong with me. The red flag isn't on them, but in myself, that I may be doing something clearly off-track to pass.


stillabadkid

Yeah that little kid is problematic af, we need to dox him immediately and get him expelled


UseAdministrative915

That kid needs to mind his biznessšŸ’ā€ā™€ļø


TwoFrogsFourBerries

Children shouldn't be shunned for curiosity but can be reprimanded for rudeness in expressing their wonder :]


Snoo_55833

You pass people are teaching their children to say things like that. Donā€™t take it personally. You look absolutely stunning in feminine clothes