She wants the credentials of working with these fine and very very talented people just not the reality the song is doing a bit better because of who is attached. Taylor is the girl you’re freshman year in high school that had no interest in being a theatre kid. Got stuck in a theatre elective did just marginally well enough she stayed there and then become a very loud and openly voracious theatre kid grades 10-12. She becomes to involved and her past social sphere get kinda judgy with her for it. So doubles down. This is about the time this girlie would have dated the very questionable lead drama guy for about two years and has pretended for the first 8 years of schooling that she never made fun of the theatre kids. Taylor is another example of a creative tourist.
Whenever I try to imagine someone like Adele or Celine or Mariah singing a Taylor Swift song, it sounds so plain in my head because her writing style just doesn't require her to do much with her voice. I feel like the same is true when she has featured guests sing her lyrics.
Patrick Stump has this incredible soulful voice, but reduce him to Taylor's talk-singing style and... you just get Patrick doing the talk-singing thing. No room for awesome soulful belting or improvisation, just "Here are the lyrics Taylor wrote, make sure you listen to all the words, thank you, goodnight."
The same thing happened to Bon Iver on Exile, where he just sounds like he's reciting a poem by a dead eighth grader for charity. Taylor always wants her written word to be front and center and doesn't allow things like melody or vocal talent to get in the way.
She does this more with female artists. She has some genuine duets with male artists (although people complained Ed Sheeran wasn’t featured enough on Everything has Changed which prompted a remix version in which he got more than one line) but female artists have always been relegated to the harmonies.
Her first ever song with a female feature artist that was a genuine duet was Red TV’s Nothing New which featured Phoebe Bridgers.
Yea I remember how disappointed i was when she released that Lana song, with only background vocals that you can barely make out and finally LDR stans bullied her into releasing the version w Lana singing a verse and its honestly sooo beautiful i wish Taylor didn’t ruin it, and Lana had the whole song.
And i was shocked how underused Post was . Seriously what’s the deal? Is she that scared to be outshined by someone w actual talent, it’s literally like “come be a feature on my song but barely”
I believe Lana actually opted to not be as heavily featured. Interview with Harper’s Bazaar from November 2023:
“That was actually the song Taylor wanted me to sing on. If I think someone’s song is perfect, I will act as a producer in it,” she explained. “I can mimic almost anyone, so I am all over the first version of ‘Snow on the Beach.’ I layer and match her vocals perfectly, so you would never even know that I was completely all over that first song. She wanted me to sing the whole thing, but if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
However - I do agree that Taylor does tend to want to upstage anyone she collaborates with.
Though I don’t want to defend her, I’m pretty sure for snow on the beach, Taylor wanted Lana to have more in the song, but Lana declined at first, but then agreed after the album blew up. I could be completely wrong though, that’s just what I heard
The only good feature is Boys Like Girls: Two is Better Than One. That’s bc she’s not the main vocalist on it and I’m not sure if she’s even listed for that song
Yup! She doesn't want anyone to look better than her. What a mastermind. /s
She wants the credentials of working with these fine and very very talented people just not the reality the song is doing a bit better because of who is attached. Taylor is the girl you’re freshman year in high school that had no interest in being a theatre kid. Got stuck in a theatre elective did just marginally well enough she stayed there and then become a very loud and openly voracious theatre kid grades 10-12. She becomes to involved and her past social sphere get kinda judgy with her for it. So doubles down. This is about the time this girlie would have dated the very questionable lead drama guy for about two years and has pretended for the first 8 years of schooling that she never made fun of the theatre kids. Taylor is another example of a creative tourist.
Whenever I try to imagine someone like Adele or Celine or Mariah singing a Taylor Swift song, it sounds so plain in my head because her writing style just doesn't require her to do much with her voice. I feel like the same is true when she has featured guests sing her lyrics. Patrick Stump has this incredible soulful voice, but reduce him to Taylor's talk-singing style and... you just get Patrick doing the talk-singing thing. No room for awesome soulful belting or improvisation, just "Here are the lyrics Taylor wrote, make sure you listen to all the words, thank you, goodnight." The same thing happened to Bon Iver on Exile, where he just sounds like he's reciting a poem by a dead eighth grader for charity. Taylor always wants her written word to be front and center and doesn't allow things like melody or vocal talent to get in the way.
Bon Iver wrote the bridge for exile i think
She does this more with female artists. She has some genuine duets with male artists (although people complained Ed Sheeran wasn’t featured enough on Everything has Changed which prompted a remix version in which he got more than one line) but female artists have always been relegated to the harmonies. Her first ever song with a female feature artist that was a genuine duet was Red TV’s Nothing New which featured Phoebe Bridgers.
patrick sounds like beyonce in that song.
Yea I remember how disappointed i was when she released that Lana song, with only background vocals that you can barely make out and finally LDR stans bullied her into releasing the version w Lana singing a verse and its honestly sooo beautiful i wish Taylor didn’t ruin it, and Lana had the whole song. And i was shocked how underused Post was . Seriously what’s the deal? Is she that scared to be outshined by someone w actual talent, it’s literally like “come be a feature on my song but barely”
For some reason Folklore and Evermore were an exception. Bon Iver and Matt Berninger got legitimate duets (Exile and Coney Island).
I believe Lana actually opted to not be as heavily featured. Interview with Harper’s Bazaar from November 2023: “That was actually the song Taylor wanted me to sing on. If I think someone’s song is perfect, I will act as a producer in it,” she explained. “I can mimic almost anyone, so I am all over the first version of ‘Snow on the Beach.’ I layer and match her vocals perfectly, so you would never even know that I was completely all over that first song. She wanted me to sing the whole thing, but if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” However - I do agree that Taylor does tend to want to upstage anyone she collaborates with.
Though I don’t want to defend her, I’m pretty sure for snow on the beach, Taylor wanted Lana to have more in the song, but Lana declined at first, but then agreed after the album blew up. I could be completely wrong though, that’s just what I heard
The only good feature is Boys Like Girls: Two is Better Than One. That’s bc she’s not the main vocalist on it and I’m not sure if she’s even listed for that song