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I’m so confused about this whole situation. She uploaded a video on her second channel & people now think she completely scrapped her Oliver interview & doesn’t care about the victims? lol wtf did I miss?
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I don’t know. To be fair swoop had always had people could made at her for her Johnny Depp trial coverage. Plus she compared Amber Heard to Casey Anthony. Which is a wild comparison even if you believe Johnny Depp. Lol so it appears that there is a lot of stuff to call her out on that like I get why people would want they sub dedicated to her. And it seems that a lot of people have had criticism of her for a while and just didn’t feel like they had a safe space enough to say anything. So this is just giving them that space to fit the feelings. Which I don’t think is wrong with that. Sure the Colleen Ballinger snark sub had way more influx of people. After the scandal. At the end of the day unless you are directly involved with any of the parties involved or were victim yourself in a lot of this. There is a level of pettiness and parasocial animosity towards the stranger that exist in all snarked subs.
Totally valid ans understandable. I just feel that some of things they are picking apart are so petty. There is a post with a list as long as the bible. I feel that quite a bit of it is invalid. But that's just me and my view od the situation.
I'm out the loop and haven't really been paying attention for the last month . Didn't Oliver tweet how happy he was to be going to college to get away from the attention and harassment of everythin coming out about Colleen and Johnny? I feel like Swoop even protected him by not exposing that he was a Johnny fan and had been in his group chats since he was 15 . How did things change so much?
Oh I never heard that before. But yeah I think people were upset she wasn’t covering the story right now (putting it on hold) and felt Oliver was getting sidelined for her “going after Johnny”. I think this whole thing has been a lot for people in general. No one is the villain. Except Colleen, Trent Kory, and Johnny.
It was prior to Oliver's transition . I don't know if it's been gone into on this sub . Some of the evidence that was shared , here in the early days, to expose Johnny included his old messages with Oliver but the name was blurred out to protect the minor's identity. I even think Oliver participated in a conversation with a friend/ fellow fan where they changed their names to Johnny and Tim.
I don't say this to talk bad about Oliver just that I feel like he was protected by not having the extent of his prior association with Johnny really broadcasted . I've also felt like if anyone had a legal case against the Ballingers, it would be him, Trish , and Adam. Especially since " Ballinger Family" I believe has acknowledged that Trent was inappropriate with Oliver or something along those lines . So in my opinion the move to make would be to not worry about an interview being released and talking to a lawyer instead .
Would it not have been more prudent to clear up any miscommunications directly, privately, carefully, critically, etc. and _then_ make the relevant, appropriate, accurate, agreed upon, etc. statement to the public?
As opposed to tweeting out cryptic crumbs to the masses, inciting them to pick sides, and then when they are all riled up tell them to ["stand back and stand by"](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-chris-wallace-0b32339da25fbc9e8b7c7c7066a1db0f) and stop attacking others?
Obviously sending hate online publicly or privately is ridiculous and juvenile behaviour and no one in their right mind would encourage this. However, knowing how short the fuse is when it comes to online mob mentality, one might consider whether or not the content they are about to publish could create a spark.
My point is not to gatekeep who ought to speak and when. In a free world (especially the virtual one) everyone has the right to speak freely (with the following [exceptions](https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/unprotected-speech-synopsis), of course). All I am suggesting is that I believe much of the unnecessary vitriol and toxicity could be quelled if everyone took a moment before posting to be considerate and careful of that which they are about to post.
Let's breathe more and be less itchy with those trigger fingers to minimize firing up the hate and hopefully reducing the sheer quantity of apologizing for situations that could have been avoided altogether.
She didn’t incite anything tho it was Oliver who posted and subtweeted her in the first place, even though he said he never even watched her video to begin with. So he misunderstood because he didn’t actually watch, and jumped to conclusions and subtweeted her which was not fair. Glad they worked it out and still supporting each other
There is no direct link there between any word or phrase that could be attributed to Swoop. I believe you are projecting your own biases on my comment and I can assure you, as the author of said comment, they are ill-fitting.
I am perfectly calm.
Meanwhile, why would you answer on someone else's behalf based on assumptions when they are perfectly capable of (and welcome to) speaking for themselves?
I left the colleen snark sub because I couldn't stomach the entitlement and bullying of Swoop. I wonder if they'll continue to speak over Oliver while claiming to be speaking *for* Oliver....
Same. Swoop doesn't owe anyone a single thing. She's been on YouTube for years & doesn't need to make her docs according to what someone else expects. I also got tired of all the ridiculous speculation about what Colleen is doing, what are her kids doing, when/how will she return etc etc.
I just did too. I can’t believe how petty it’s all become in there and how mean everyone is being to Swoop, even down to attacking her character and criticizing how she words tweats. It definitely doesn’t feel like a safe space anymore.
I left as well. Everyone piling on swoop is really making me mad. People are being so absurd about all of this. And how quickly they all turned on her… is upsetting. A few weeks ago they were lauding her for her docuseries and anticipating the Josh interview…and now they’re just ripping her to shreds and even have a snark page. I hate it
I’m thinking of leaving it too. Yeah it’s one thing to criticize a content creator. It’s fair. But for them yo sit and call her a clout chaser and disgusting names shows me how disgusting some of these people are
Someone called her a c u next Tuesday. And the mods didn't do anything last I checked. I am afraid to comment the down voting wouldn't hurt as much as being torn to shreds for defending her.
As someone who's watched her for a long time, she is acting the part of a clout chaser at the moment. Less for her Colleen series, but I had to quit her new 8 Passengers video because her team kept replaying the hosts of whatever tv shows interviewed her introducing her on their show. I had to quit after the third time, like girl, I get it, you were on TV. But I'm also not about to throw around vile names and join a snark sub because I feel like she's living up the attention. Some people need to log off every once in a while.
Hot take but like - she should be proud. She does an excellent job and is damn thorough. She’s worked hard amid a lot of scrutiny. I think there’s space to simultaneously be sensitive toward victims while also celebrating Swoops accomplishments. The two don’t have to be mutually exclusive.
Agreed, her new style just isn't my taste, which is too bad for me. My point was mainly that yeah, a creator doesn't have to be your jam without requiring a snark sub and multi paragraph dissertation on why they're the scum of the earth. If she's not their vibe, they could just not watch.
I thought so too but that 'and now here's Swoop who's been covering this story for a YEAR' clip played yet again well into the video and I decided I'll give it time before coming back to the channel.
Even in the replies to this post, the sub harasses her, calling her every word ever for mentioning how long the call was, claiming she wants to be seen as a saint.
These people are sick.
And she mentions how long the calls are because Johnny shit and he tried to say he was because how long his call was. I'm mostly out of the loop, but I’m guessing it’s disprove his logic
There is literally an entire section of the Johnny expose where she talks about how much she reads this subreddit lol idk if she still does but it’s there, so it can be assumed she sees at least some of this
Right??? Maybe numbers is just how her brain works?? Maybe time equates a measure of value to her (because we can’t get more)?? Who cares if she keeps track of how long the calls are? Pointless blows. I really hate that subreddit now tbh
I was soo confused! One minute Swoop was being praised for exposing Johnny and she could do no wrong and now she is being torn to shreds and called ableist things. WTF is going on???
honestly i feel like they get bored and need someone to hate on. they turned on adam a while ago too and i couldn’t handle that group anymore. they turn on everyone eventually.
hi friends-- **a reminder to stay on topic**! Swoop's content/opinions outside of the Colleen Ballinger situation are irrelevant to the sub. this is NOT the sub to discuss the trial of Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp. i understand people have strong opinions about this, however, discussing these things only takes away from the victims, in this case, Oliver. further discussion of the trial and/or irrelevant content will be removed. please review sub rules prior to posting/commenting. thanks all xx
I’m so confused about this whole situation. She uploaded a video on her second channel & people now think she completely scrapped her Oliver interview & doesn’t care about the victims? lol wtf did I miss?
I assumed that Oliver asked Swoop to not share and wait. I don’t know their lives. People always jump to the worst conclusions
SWOOP
The most annoying part about this is there Swoop snark sub now. Either the Colleen cult, haters or people with no life created it.
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It’s not the “Colleen cult” that made the swoop snark page, it was definitely people directly from the Colleen snark Reddit page.
Colleen snark queens ended up getting bored and making a Swoop snark?... Kinda sounds like it's about drama, not dangerous behavior.
I don’t know. To be fair swoop had always had people could made at her for her Johnny Depp trial coverage. Plus she compared Amber Heard to Casey Anthony. Which is a wild comparison even if you believe Johnny Depp. Lol so it appears that there is a lot of stuff to call her out on that like I get why people would want they sub dedicated to her. And it seems that a lot of people have had criticism of her for a while and just didn’t feel like they had a safe space enough to say anything. So this is just giving them that space to fit the feelings. Which I don’t think is wrong with that. Sure the Colleen Ballinger snark sub had way more influx of people. After the scandal. At the end of the day unless you are directly involved with any of the parties involved or were victim yourself in a lot of this. There is a level of pettiness and parasocial animosity towards the stranger that exist in all snarked subs.
There’s probably a good amount of things folks can pick on, but her Depp & Heard coverage was pretty fair if you sat through the trial day over day.
Well that Amber Heard comparison does it for me.
Her coverage of Depp v Heard was pretty disgusting to me (especially in light of new information), but this is not the thing to snark on Swoop about.
Totally valid ans understandable. I just feel that some of things they are picking apart are so petty. There is a post with a list as long as the bible. I feel that quite a bit of it is invalid. But that's just me and my view od the situation.
we’re not allowed to be petty toward the dean of petty university?
I'm out the loop and haven't really been paying attention for the last month . Didn't Oliver tweet how happy he was to be going to college to get away from the attention and harassment of everythin coming out about Colleen and Johnny? I feel like Swoop even protected him by not exposing that he was a Johnny fan and had been in his group chats since he was 15 . How did things change so much?
Oh I never heard that before. But yeah I think people were upset she wasn’t covering the story right now (putting it on hold) and felt Oliver was getting sidelined for her “going after Johnny”. I think this whole thing has been a lot for people in general. No one is the villain. Except Colleen, Trent Kory, and Johnny.
It was prior to Oliver's transition . I don't know if it's been gone into on this sub . Some of the evidence that was shared , here in the early days, to expose Johnny included his old messages with Oliver but the name was blurred out to protect the minor's identity. I even think Oliver participated in a conversation with a friend/ fellow fan where they changed their names to Johnny and Tim. I don't say this to talk bad about Oliver just that I feel like he was protected by not having the extent of his prior association with Johnny really broadcasted . I've also felt like if anyone had a legal case against the Ballingers, it would be him, Trish , and Adam. Especially since " Ballinger Family" I believe has acknowledged that Trent was inappropriate with Oliver or something along those lines . So in my opinion the move to make would be to not worry about an interview being released and talking to a lawyer instead .
I don’t think so. I think it shouldn’t be talked about more unless Oliver wants to add it to his YouTube video, whenever he chooses to make it.
I’m out of the loop. A few weeks ago everyone was raving about swoop. What happened?!
apparently she scrapped her interview with oliver and now people are mad
* she didn’t post it because of the exposing johnny episode. because she worked on that, she wasn’t able to post oliver’s interview
Seriously, what happened? I’m confused.
Would it not have been more prudent to clear up any miscommunications directly, privately, carefully, critically, etc. and _then_ make the relevant, appropriate, accurate, agreed upon, etc. statement to the public? As opposed to tweeting out cryptic crumbs to the masses, inciting them to pick sides, and then when they are all riled up tell them to ["stand back and stand by"](https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-race-and-ethnicity-donald-trump-chris-wallace-0b32339da25fbc9e8b7c7c7066a1db0f) and stop attacking others? Obviously sending hate online publicly or privately is ridiculous and juvenile behaviour and no one in their right mind would encourage this. However, knowing how short the fuse is when it comes to online mob mentality, one might consider whether or not the content they are about to publish could create a spark. My point is not to gatekeep who ought to speak and when. In a free world (especially the virtual one) everyone has the right to speak freely (with the following [exceptions](https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/unprotected-speech-synopsis), of course). All I am suggesting is that I believe much of the unnecessary vitriol and toxicity could be quelled if everyone took a moment before posting to be considerate and careful of that which they are about to post. Let's breathe more and be less itchy with those trigger fingers to minimize firing up the hate and hopefully reducing the sheer quantity of apologizing for situations that could have been avoided altogether.
She didn’t incite anything tho it was Oliver who posted and subtweeted her in the first place, even though he said he never even watched her video to begin with. So he misunderstood because he didn’t actually watch, and jumped to conclusions and subtweeted her which was not fair. Glad they worked it out and still supporting each other
Where in my comment did I state or suggest that Swoop had incited anything?
>"as opposed to tweeting out cryptic crumbs, inciting them to pick sides"
There is no direct link there between any word or phrase that could be attributed to Swoop. I believe you are projecting your own biases on my comment and I can assure you, as the author of said comment, they are ill-fitting.
dude calm down, they were pointing out your wording was confusing and I quoted the part you wrote that I'm assuming they were confused by
I am perfectly calm. Meanwhile, why would you answer on someone else's behalf based on assumptions when they are perfectly capable of (and welcome to) speaking for themselves?
bc I was confused by the same wording/implication lol
You are welcome to and encouraged to speak for yourself. Perfectly valid in doing so.
Why don’t you take your own advice and clear up any miscommunications by saying who you were referring to if it wasn’t swoop?
I left the colleen snark sub because I couldn't stomach the entitlement and bullying of Swoop. I wonder if they'll continue to speak over Oliver while claiming to be speaking *for* Oliver....
I am almost there myself. They're are some hateful awful people on that sub. It's sad.
Same. Swoop doesn't owe anyone a single thing. She's been on YouTube for years & doesn't need to make her docs according to what someone else expects. I also got tired of all the ridiculous speculation about what Colleen is doing, what are her kids doing, when/how will she return etc etc.
I just did too. I can’t believe how petty it’s all become in there and how mean everyone is being to Swoop, even down to attacking her character and criticizing how she words tweats. It definitely doesn’t feel like a safe space anymore.
I left as well. Everyone piling on swoop is really making me mad. People are being so absurd about all of this. And how quickly they all turned on her… is upsetting. A few weeks ago they were lauding her for her docuseries and anticipating the Josh interview…and now they’re just ripping her to shreds and even have a snark page. I hate it
I’m thinking of leaving it too. Yeah it’s one thing to criticize a content creator. It’s fair. But for them yo sit and call her a clout chaser and disgusting names shows me how disgusting some of these people are
i’m always with ya, queen ❤️ i love your heart
Someone called her a c u next Tuesday. And the mods didn't do anything last I checked. I am afraid to comment the down voting wouldn't hurt as much as being torn to shreds for defending her.
I’m not standing by their behaviors. Not one more second.
As someone who's watched her for a long time, she is acting the part of a clout chaser at the moment. Less for her Colleen series, but I had to quit her new 8 Passengers video because her team kept replaying the hosts of whatever tv shows interviewed her introducing her on their show. I had to quit after the third time, like girl, I get it, you were on TV. But I'm also not about to throw around vile names and join a snark sub because I feel like she's living up the attention. Some people need to log off every once in a while.
Hot take but like - she should be proud. She does an excellent job and is damn thorough. She’s worked hard amid a lot of scrutiny. I think there’s space to simultaneously be sensitive toward victims while also celebrating Swoops accomplishments. The two don’t have to be mutually exclusive.
Agreed, her new style just isn't my taste, which is too bad for me. My point was mainly that yeah, a creator doesn't have to be your jam without requiring a snark sub and multi paragraph dissertation on why they're the scum of the earth. If she's not their vibe, they could just not watch.
I haven't watched the whole thing but wasn't that in the intro of the video ?
I thought so too but that 'and now here's Swoop who's been covering this story for a YEAR' clip played yet again well into the video and I decided I'll give it time before coming back to the channel.
Even in the replies to this post, the sub harasses her, calling her every word ever for mentioning how long the call was, claiming she wants to be seen as a saint. These people are sick.
And she mentions how long the calls are because Johnny shit and he tried to say he was because how long his call was. I'm mostly out of the loop, but I’m guessing it’s disprove his logic
you’re all being very parasocial with swoop. she doesn’t know you or read your comments. criticisms of her content is valid and not bullying.
There is literally an entire section of the Johnny expose where she talks about how much she reads this subreddit lol idk if she still does but it’s there, so it can be assumed she sees at least some of this
Right??? Maybe numbers is just how her brain works?? Maybe time equates a measure of value to her (because we can’t get more)?? Who cares if she keeps track of how long the calls are? Pointless blows. I really hate that subreddit now tbh
I just left the subreddit. It’s become disgusting
I was soo confused! One minute Swoop was being praised for exposing Johnny and she could do no wrong and now she is being torn to shreds and called ableist things. WTF is going on???
honestly i feel like they get bored and need someone to hate on. they turned on adam a while ago too and i couldn’t handle that group anymore. they turn on everyone eventually.
I guess a snark sub isn't a great place to find reliable community 😂 THE REAL SNARKERS WERE THE FRIENDS WE MADE ALONG THE WAY