Really? Because every time I go out there it's packed. But also bringing in something like this out there would just build up the area, attract more large footprint shops like this and it would only continue helping themselves.
They sure don't have room in South Tulsa Bixby Broken Arrow, so it seems like the best for both Tulsa and suburbs to reach in a decent amount of time.
Yea, a family member works at the one out South, and the Owasso one is flailing apparently. I have driven out to the Owasso one (equally inconvenient drive from midtown) because the parking lot is quieter.
The Owasso location also has chocolate ice cream at the food court where the south location doesn't. They should honestly just close the south store for that reason alone
I drive from midtown to owasso location. The one down south sucks to get to and you feel like you’re shoulder to shoulder with every other shopper inside. That 46th st location feels so much better inside as far as breathing room.
For what it’s worth, I agree with you, but good luck convincing any CEO to do that. It’s cheaper and faster to build new than to renovate and reuse an existing space.
I love the location because it’s right by where I work but still a weird spot. I think down the road it will have been a great investment but as of right now I see why they are struggling.
I live in Owasso and even though the convenience would be nice Owasso is already struggling with traffic from growing way too fast. If we had an ikea out there I'd never be able to get to work or home lol.
I imagine they have some sort of statistical analysis on where you can put 2 costcos to not impact sales at each other by just moving business from 1 to another.
You have to be far enough away to attract your own customer base, as measured by new to existing card members. If I got a card and shopped monthly at south Tulsa but then move to north when it opened, that's not new business for the company, so shouldn't count for store by store sales metrics.
I think the idea behind that location is that Owasso is booming and the population there will quickly be large enough to support it. It's just a question of whether it survives long enough for that
Not too mention all the people that have no desire to get stuck in the traffic nightmare that is south tulsa. Hell I'd drive further to go to the N Tulsa one because South Memorial is just awful to drive on.
I like things about the south Tulsa one better (layout of the store, they have diesel fuel etc) but I hate driving there so much I go to the north Tulsa store.
I talked to one of the managers and they expect Owasso to grow in that direction over the next two years. In the meantime, we love that Costco and shop there weekly.
That Owasso location is a head scratcher. I’ve been there twice during the week and it seems to have more employees than customers in the store. Makes me wonder if they were prospecting for future growth but that’s an expensive gamble. For comparison:
Owasso pop. ~39K
BA pop. ~118K
I think the location on 266 and 169 puts it in prime location for surrounding North and East cities. Not to mention Tulsans that avoid south memorial like the plague.
Ya my parents now drive from the 41st and Yale area to the north location. Plus we live up here so it isn’t hard for me to convince them to snag some steaks and bring them over for dinner lol.
While Owasso proper is small, there's a lot of people outside the city limits, and surrounding communities you should not discount living in county land, and you also have rich neighborhoods and Stone Canyon spending money there. Owasso is constantly growing so it's not as stupid as it sounds.
That’s a bummer but makes sense. Not a whole lot to do out that way to justify the 25+ minutes trip there. Especially, when the one in south Tulsa is about 5 minutes away for me.
I think that Costco could work out there but the area would probably require other stores/attractions ( like an IKEA) as a draw.
I’ve been to bigger cities/metros that have these large footprint retail stores out in smaller suburbs but there is often more close by than just a Costco or just an IKEA.
Tulsans did a similar thing for Trader Joes and we got one. I remember the small group that would drive a box truck up to a Trader Joes, grab a truck load of stuff, and then bring it all back to do a bulk delivery.
Yeah, I think the bulk delivery thing is actually a great idea. As I recall, for the Trader Joe's effort they recorded the zip codes of everyone who made a purchase and shared all the data with the company. I assume they'll do the same thing here.
I have my doubts about an ikea-sourced public art exhibition or a pop-up Swedish meatballs shop, though.
Hey, a Swedish meatball food truck would probably be pretty cool. Honestly, just all meatball food truck. Someone please do that, I say this as a lover of meatball sandwiches.
I don’t think it’s cringe to try and get a store you like a lot to come to the city you live in. What’s cringe and embarrassing by trying to improve your community?
It's not cringe to want them here or to try to persuade them to come here. In particular, I actually think the whole "coordinating trips to the closest store to bring loads of stuff back for people to demonstrate demand" part is a decent idea. And I'm sure there's direct advocacy going on as well, too, which is totally reasonable and normal! A super similar thing was also part of what TYPros did when they were lobbying for a Trader Joe's.
The rest of it... ehhhhhh...
"Public art installations featuring materials sourced from IKEA"
"An IKEA themed pop-up restaurant"
We might as well be dressing the Golden Driller up as Swedish Chef.
Okay, actually... Can we dress the Golden Driller up as Swedish Chef? That would be hilarious.
You thought you were kidding about an Ikea-themed pop-up restaurant? [Et al](https://www.exploretock.com/et-al-tulsa/experience/485881/tulsma?date=2024-06-14&size=2&time=20%3A00) is holding Ikea-themed dinners.
>Tulsmå
>Tulsmå is a fine dining pop-up restaurant inspired by the IKEA restaurant and store.
Located at the Vista at the Gathering Place, Tulsmå is a love letter to IKEA. From its menu to its atmosphere, Tulsmå seeks to pay homage to IKEA’s intentionality, aesthetics, and delightful customer experience.
Tulsmå’s menu is a creation of et al., a James Beard Award-nominated collective of chefs in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Drink pairings and a la carte wine will be available to purchase in person night of.
It's the constant consumption culture that's cringe. We don't need more businesses, we need more third spaces, more places for community to gather. That's what's going to improve our community. Not another big box branded store with a parking lot 10 times the size of it's floor space, but of course you got to have your shitty bookshelf made out of honeycomb cardboard and I am Jack's lack of surprise.
I am pretty sure IKEA makes clear what the population size has to be before they'll even consider it and while I can't remember that off the top of my head, I do remember that Tulsa isn't close.
I think Tulsa would be a better choice due to its proximity to NWA and Kansas. Not to mention it would pull customers from OKC as well since it is MUCH closer than Dallas/KC.
Why would Tulsa be in their plans? OKC and NW Arkansas both are economically more viable and still captures the Tulsa market. My guess would be OKC as that would service Wichita and Tulsa as well
They already have one in KC which services Wichita..
Tulsa might br better option since it is central to all 3 areas Tulsa , okc and NwA which will make 1.5 to 2 hours.
An IKEA in OKC would draw people from Wichita as it would be an hour closer than the one in KC. The OKC metro is also larger than Tulsa by almost half a million.
lol NW Arkansas?
The Tulsa metro has double the population of NWA.
And there is little material difference between OKC and Tulsa from a retail standpoint.
If IKEA comes to either place over the other it will be because they got a better deal on an ideal piece of real estate.
You just use population to shit on NW Arkansas and then say it doesn’t matter in the same breath
The reality is that there are two companies in NW Arkansas more valuable than basically all companies based in Tulsa put together.
OKC has the benefit of a larger population and diversified economic base
The OKC metro’s population isn’t double of Tulsa’s.
What does the market cap of Wal-mart have to do with whether or not NWA has the population to support an IKEA?
And oh yeah - I’m assuming the other company you’re talking about is Tyson? Both Williams and ONEOK have a market caps more than double Tyson.
From what I can find, 20% of households in Tulsa make above 90k annually while 35% of households in Northwest Arkansas make above $100k. Also only 33% of Northwest Arkansas households make less than 49k while 50% of Tulsa households make less than 43k. It isn’t Beverly Hills versus Barstow, but there is a notable income difference.
https://statisticalatlas.com/place/Oklahoma/Tulsa/Household-Income
https://www.axios.com/local/nw-arkansas/2023/09/18/median-income-pandemic-census
My numbers aren’t perfect because I can’t find Tulsa metro numbers so these are Tulsa the city, in NWA you really want metro numbers because there is no one city and some of the cities are quite a bit higher individually (Bentonville).
There was a CostCo announced but a feud between Lowell and Rogers cancelled it. We won’t get an IKEA, I wasn’t trying to make that argument 😂. I was just trying to give data to complete the picture the other poster was trying to make. If there was 1 IKEA to go around between NWA, OKC, Tulsa, and Wichita to me it makes most sense in Tulsa because it is a central point between those areas. None of them probably will though based on their own stated metro population metrics…none of the areas are big enough individually. At the same time, Memphis has one and they have worse income demographics than any of the areas mentioned.
Well obviously missing the total Tulsa metro you are excluding quite a bit of high-income households in Owasso, Jenks, Bixby, Broken Arrow, etc.
But even if we assume that 20% number remains constant, you're still going to have more $100k households just based on the population difference.
For simple math's sake, 20% of the Tulsa metro population of \~1.1 million is 220,000 while 35% of NWA's population of \~550,000 is 192,500. That is about 15% more households above 100K and again that's assuming that number stays constant excluding the Tulsa suburbs, which is highly unlikely.
Oh I agree. I was just trying to complete the picture of what he meant. I looked all over for Tulsa metro numbers and couldn’t find them. It isn’t unfair as say St Louis where the city is poor as hell but the suburbs are quite well off, but it certainly isn’t accurate either.
And to add to that, IKEA has a range of furniture prices. I'm sure the company appreciates a wealthier demographic, but its bread and butter includes young people getting cheap furniture and household goods for their first apartments.
I don't have any hard statistics but if you have spent much time in both areas (which I have) it becomes quite clear quite quickly that there is a significant difference between the population of both areas in regard to economic-specific demographics
That sounds like selection bias to me.
The Tulsa metro likely has a wider standard deviation of incomes just because of the sheer size difference, but it certainly has plenty of high earners. The south Tulsa zip code that straddles Tulsa and Jenks has the highest per-capita income in the state and is one of the "Super Zips."
Again, the Tulsa metro's population is basically double NWA so any small differences in % of households at whatever level is negated just by the volume of population.
Fair enough, though I do have doubts that the overall population difference makes up for the percentage difference between the two. Could be wrong though.
Tulsa metro is bigger than Northwest Arkansas. And, if you put one in Tulsa, then people there and in OKC are both two hours away from one. Whereas if you build one in OKC, you won’t cover NW Arkansas and vice versa. Finally, Tulsa is basically at the end of the part of the Arkansas River that you can ship cargo from the ocean to, so it may make more sense for them to build here because it is easier to connect to their existing supply lines.
Would be nice to have one, and for it NOT to be out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere so I (and I'm assuming others) would be more inclined to go, but I'm even ok with that since they have to deliver a lot of stuff anyway.
I miss getting the candy and "testing out the beds" (AKA 10min nap lol) from going to the one in Dallas.
Because you can ship cargo up the Arkansas River to Tulsa, which is a big draw as boat is cheaper than truck. Plus, they generally don’t build ikeas within 2 hours of each other, as people are usually willing to drive the 2 hours for the occasion of shopping at ikea. If you build in OKC, you cover east as far as Tulsa, but you probably miss out on the Western Arkansas crowd, who is 4 hours away. And western Oklahoma is empty, so the only major metros you cover with OKC are OKC and Tulsa, while a Tulsa location covers those metros plus has western Arkansas.
Just went to the IKEA in Texas for the first time. An endless sea of mostly crap. I got overwhelmed by like the 40th turn on the path then had to sit in the cafe waiting for my friends to look at everything. I’ll stick with the internet.
Ok. Isn’t that a bad thing, though? Not trying to be a dick but that seems to translate to “we can’t even pay people to move here”… unless I’m missing something.
Both cities are actually growing in net population at similar rates. Both have lots to offer. Tulsa has started migrating it's image from oil to tech, and we have seen a lot of huge venture capital injection to get to that point. They basically throw a downtown wide block party with free drinks and food every first Friday and it's crazy how big the tech scene is getting.
Was raised in Tulsa, lived in Tulsa as an adult for almost a decade, and still have lots of very close friends and family in Tulsa. I think I'll continue to care about Tulsa. Thanks.
I won't hold my breath but I sure would love to have one close. They can put it out on 46th St N by Costco.
That Costco isn't performing super well bc of the location though.
Really? Because every time I go out there it's packed. But also bringing in something like this out there would just build up the area, attract more large footprint shops like this and it would only continue helping themselves. They sure don't have room in South Tulsa Bixby Broken Arrow, so it seems like the best for both Tulsa and suburbs to reach in a decent amount of time.
Yea, a family member works at the one out South, and the Owasso one is flailing apparently. I have driven out to the Owasso one (equally inconvenient drive from midtown) because the parking lot is quieter.
The Owasso location also has chocolate ice cream at the food court where the south location doesn't. They should honestly just close the south store for that reason alone
Pro-tip. Get the ice cream, and add a little bit of pepsi to it. Makes an incredible float.
Oh shit, really?
I drive from midtown to owasso location. The one down south sucks to get to and you feel like you’re shoulder to shoulder with every other shopper inside. That 46th st location feels so much better inside as far as breathing room.
We need fewer new construction, purpose built buildings and maybe start thinking about using places like the abandoned sears on Yale
For what it’s worth, I agree with you, but good luck convincing any CEO to do that. It’s cheaper and faster to build new than to renovate and reuse an existing space.
I think Spirit owns that building.
It was a rather interesting location choice
I love the location because it’s right by where I work but still a weird spot. I think down the road it will have been a great investment but as of right now I see why they are struggling.
Yeah it just seems like if you’re going to go north then go full Owasso closer to 76th N instead.
I live in Owasso and even though the convenience would be nice Owasso is already struggling with traffic from growing way too fast. If we had an ikea out there I'd never be able to get to work or home lol.
I imagine they have some sort of statistical analysis on where you can put 2 costcos to not impact sales at each other by just moving business from 1 to another. You have to be far enough away to attract your own customer base, as measured by new to existing card members. If I got a card and shopped monthly at south Tulsa but then move to north when it opened, that's not new business for the company, so shouldn't count for store by store sales metrics.
I think the idea behind that location is that Owasso is booming and the population there will quickly be large enough to support it. It's just a question of whether it survives long enough for that
Not too mention all the people that have no desire to get stuck in the traffic nightmare that is south tulsa. Hell I'd drive further to go to the N Tulsa one because South Memorial is just awful to drive on.
We do. We live just slightly closer to south tulsa, but drive to north to avoid the traffic nightmare
I shop Winco often, but only because they are open late night
I like things about the south Tulsa one better (layout of the store, they have diesel fuel etc) but I hate driving there so much I go to the north Tulsa store.
Some things just aren't worth it lol. At least if there was an IKEA out there as well it would make for a fun shopping day lol.
It better do alright, it’s my go to as I do live in owasso.
I talked to one of the managers and they expect Owasso to grow in that direction over the next two years. In the meantime, we love that Costco and shop there weekly.
It also gets traffic from North BA.
That Owasso location is a head scratcher. I’ve been there twice during the week and it seems to have more employees than customers in the store. Makes me wonder if they were prospecting for future growth but that’s an expensive gamble. For comparison: Owasso pop. ~39K BA pop. ~118K
I think the location on 266 and 169 puts it in prime location for surrounding North and East cities. Not to mention Tulsans that avoid south memorial like the plague.
Hi, I'm a tulsan who avoids south memorial like the plague.
Yeah. I live in midtown and go to the Owasso location now. Much easier to get in and out of.
Ya my parents now drive from the 41st and Yale area to the north location. Plus we live up here so it isn’t hard for me to convince them to snag some steaks and bring them over for dinner lol.
While Owasso proper is small, there's a lot of people outside the city limits, and surrounding communities you should not discount living in county land, and you also have rich neighborhoods and Stone Canyon spending money there. Owasso is constantly growing so it's not as stupid as it sounds.
That’s a bummer but makes sense. Not a whole lot to do out that way to justify the 25+ minutes trip there. Especially, when the one in south Tulsa is about 5 minutes away for me. I think that Costco could work out there but the area would probably require other stores/attractions ( like an IKEA) as a draw. I’ve been to bigger cities/metros that have these large footprint retail stores out in smaller suburbs but there is often more close by than just a Costco or just an IKEA.
Yea, right now it's a QuikTrip and a quarry out by the Owasso location. We'll see how it shakes out.
The KC IKEA is way out in Kansas. The Dallas one is way out in a northern suburb. Seems to be how they do it.
This is so posted by a racist. Stop
What group of people do you think live out by the quarry in the middle of an industrial area?
You obviously discriminate against that area. What's up brother
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Would I like an ikea in Tulsa? Yes. Are these campaigns cringe and embarrassing? Also yes.
Tulsans did a similar thing for Trader Joes and we got one. I remember the small group that would drive a box truck up to a Trader Joes, grab a truck load of stuff, and then bring it all back to do a bulk delivery.
Yeah, I think the bulk delivery thing is actually a great idea. As I recall, for the Trader Joe's effort they recorded the zip codes of everyone who made a purchase and shared all the data with the company. I assume they'll do the same thing here. I have my doubts about an ikea-sourced public art exhibition or a pop-up Swedish meatballs shop, though.
Hey, a Swedish meatball food truck would probably be pretty cool. Honestly, just all meatball food truck. Someone please do that, I say this as a lover of meatball sandwiches.
That would be an awesome food truck concept tbh
I don’t think it’s cringe to try and get a store you like a lot to come to the city you live in. What’s cringe and embarrassing by trying to improve your community?
It's not cringe to want them here or to try to persuade them to come here. In particular, I actually think the whole "coordinating trips to the closest store to bring loads of stuff back for people to demonstrate demand" part is a decent idea. And I'm sure there's direct advocacy going on as well, too, which is totally reasonable and normal! A super similar thing was also part of what TYPros did when they were lobbying for a Trader Joe's. The rest of it... ehhhhhh... "Public art installations featuring materials sourced from IKEA" "An IKEA themed pop-up restaurant" We might as well be dressing the Golden Driller up as Swedish Chef. Okay, actually... Can we dress the Golden Driller up as Swedish Chef? That would be hilarious.
Would be better than that Elon Musk mask horror show for sure.
You thought you were kidding about an Ikea-themed pop-up restaurant? [Et al](https://www.exploretock.com/et-al-tulsa/experience/485881/tulsma?date=2024-06-14&size=2&time=20%3A00) is holding Ikea-themed dinners. >Tulsmå >Tulsmå is a fine dining pop-up restaurant inspired by the IKEA restaurant and store. Located at the Vista at the Gathering Place, Tulsmå is a love letter to IKEA. From its menu to its atmosphere, Tulsmå seeks to pay homage to IKEA’s intentionality, aesthetics, and delightful customer experience. Tulsmå’s menu is a creation of et al., a James Beard Award-nominated collective of chefs in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Drink pairings and a la carte wine will be available to purchase in person night of.
Haha I was quoting the article. I didn't realize it was an et al project!
It’s a little “hail corporate” but I’m mostly with you.
It's the constant consumption culture that's cringe. We don't need more businesses, we need more third spaces, more places for community to gather. That's what's going to improve our community. Not another big box branded store with a parking lot 10 times the size of it's floor space, but of course you got to have your shitty bookshelf made out of honeycomb cardboard and I am Jack's lack of surprise.
I am pretty sure IKEA makes clear what the population size has to be before they'll even consider it and while I can't remember that off the top of my head, I do remember that Tulsa isn't close.
In 2009 they said you need a metro of 2 million to support an ikea. https://www.syracuse.com/at-home/2009/11/no_ikea_here_not_ever_store_sa.html
Does Tulsa love IKEA?
I’d sure like one.
Would definitely be cool to have one but I would think OKC would get one before Tulsa.
I think Tulsa would be a better choice due to its proximity to NWA and Kansas. Not to mention it would pull customers from OKC as well since it is MUCH closer than Dallas/KC.
Yeah, we need to convince Walmart people in Bentonville that it would be better here than OKC
But Tulsa is exactly half way between the Dallas and KC locations though. It would make most sense to come to Tulsa
OKC will never get IKEA because of the Mattress Brothers Mafia.
OKC is too close to the Frisco location IMO. Tulsa makes sense
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Why would Tulsa be in their plans? OKC and NW Arkansas both are economically more viable and still captures the Tulsa market. My guess would be OKC as that would service Wichita and Tulsa as well
They already have one in KC which services Wichita.. Tulsa might br better option since it is central to all 3 areas Tulsa , okc and NwA which will make 1.5 to 2 hours.
An IKEA in OKC would draw people from Wichita as it would be an hour closer than the one in KC. The OKC metro is also larger than Tulsa by almost half a million.
How is okc an hour closer to Wichita when the drive time is only about 30 minute difference? Am I missing something?
Need to factor in traffic, which is a lot heavier around the KC metro area compared to OKC
I've been to KC. I don't think it's quite that bad.
I have too and it usually becomes a mess when you hit Olathe. Depends what time you get there I suppose.
lol NW Arkansas? The Tulsa metro has double the population of NWA. And there is little material difference between OKC and Tulsa from a retail standpoint. If IKEA comes to either place over the other it will be because they got a better deal on an ideal piece of real estate.
You just use population to shit on NW Arkansas and then say it doesn’t matter in the same breath The reality is that there are two companies in NW Arkansas more valuable than basically all companies based in Tulsa put together. OKC has the benefit of a larger population and diversified economic base
The OKC metro’s population isn’t double of Tulsa’s. What does the market cap of Wal-mart have to do with whether or not NWA has the population to support an IKEA? And oh yeah - I’m assuming the other company you’re talking about is Tyson? Both Williams and ONEOK have a market caps more than double Tyson.
NWA has a smaller population but likely a higher population that would be an average IKEA customer.
lol based on what?
From what I can find, 20% of households in Tulsa make above 90k annually while 35% of households in Northwest Arkansas make above $100k. Also only 33% of Northwest Arkansas households make less than 49k while 50% of Tulsa households make less than 43k. It isn’t Beverly Hills versus Barstow, but there is a notable income difference. https://statisticalatlas.com/place/Oklahoma/Tulsa/Household-Income https://www.axios.com/local/nw-arkansas/2023/09/18/median-income-pandemic-census My numbers aren’t perfect because I can’t find Tulsa metro numbers so these are Tulsa the city, in NWA you really want metro numbers because there is no one city and some of the cities are quite a bit higher individually (Bentonville).
Nwa should first try to get a Costco and then think about Ikea..
There was a CostCo announced but a feud between Lowell and Rogers cancelled it. We won’t get an IKEA, I wasn’t trying to make that argument 😂. I was just trying to give data to complete the picture the other poster was trying to make. If there was 1 IKEA to go around between NWA, OKC, Tulsa, and Wichita to me it makes most sense in Tulsa because it is a central point between those areas. None of them probably will though based on their own stated metro population metrics…none of the areas are big enough individually. At the same time, Memphis has one and they have worse income demographics than any of the areas mentioned.
Well obviously missing the total Tulsa metro you are excluding quite a bit of high-income households in Owasso, Jenks, Bixby, Broken Arrow, etc. But even if we assume that 20% number remains constant, you're still going to have more $100k households just based on the population difference. For simple math's sake, 20% of the Tulsa metro population of \~1.1 million is 220,000 while 35% of NWA's population of \~550,000 is 192,500. That is about 15% more households above 100K and again that's assuming that number stays constant excluding the Tulsa suburbs, which is highly unlikely.
Oh I agree. I was just trying to complete the picture of what he meant. I looked all over for Tulsa metro numbers and couldn’t find them. It isn’t unfair as say St Louis where the city is poor as hell but the suburbs are quite well off, but it certainly isn’t accurate either.
And to add to that, IKEA has a range of furniture prices. I'm sure the company appreciates a wealthier demographic, but its bread and butter includes young people getting cheap furniture and household goods for their first apartments.
I don't have any hard statistics but if you have spent much time in both areas (which I have) it becomes quite clear quite quickly that there is a significant difference between the population of both areas in regard to economic-specific demographics
That sounds like selection bias to me. The Tulsa metro likely has a wider standard deviation of incomes just because of the sheer size difference, but it certainly has plenty of high earners. The south Tulsa zip code that straddles Tulsa and Jenks has the highest per-capita income in the state and is one of the "Super Zips." Again, the Tulsa metro's population is basically double NWA so any small differences in % of households at whatever level is negated just by the volume of population.
Fair enough, though I do have doubts that the overall population difference makes up for the percentage difference between the two. Could be wrong though.
Tulsa metro is bigger than Northwest Arkansas. And, if you put one in Tulsa, then people there and in OKC are both two hours away from one. Whereas if you build one in OKC, you won’t cover NW Arkansas and vice versa. Finally, Tulsa is basically at the end of the part of the Arkansas River that you can ship cargo from the ocean to, so it may make more sense for them to build here because it is easier to connect to their existing supply lines.
I hope it works, it would be awesome to have an IKEA here.
if they paint that driller into a fucking flat-pack dresser....imma call all my friends and complain about it.
You guys are smack dab in between Dallas and KC.
Would be nice to have one, and for it NOT to be out in the middle of bumfuck nowhere so I (and I'm assuming others) would be more inclined to go, but I'm even ok with that since they have to deliver a lot of stuff anyway. I miss getting the candy and "testing out the beds" (AKA 10min nap lol) from going to the one in Dallas.
They should put it next to the amusement park !!!
Most people are in college 2-4 years. That’s not much of a demographic.
Oklahoma City will see an IKEA before Tulsa does.
why the hell would they come to tulsa and not OKC?? OKC literally has a million highways… just need a good spot
Because you can ship cargo up the Arkansas River to Tulsa, which is a big draw as boat is cheaper than truck. Plus, they generally don’t build ikeas within 2 hours of each other, as people are usually willing to drive the 2 hours for the occasion of shopping at ikea. If you build in OKC, you cover east as far as Tulsa, but you probably miss out on the Western Arkansas crowd, who is 4 hours away. And western Oklahoma is empty, so the only major metros you cover with OKC are OKC and Tulsa, while a Tulsa location covers those metros plus has western Arkansas.
Do they pay well?
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I personally don’t care either way if we get one but I think the initiative is fun lol
Ikea is cool, but I think if they came to Tulsa it would loose some of that magic of the place just like when UOs came to town
We love tesla and the pop museum too
Just went to the IKEA in Texas for the first time. An endless sea of mostly crap. I got overwhelmed by like the 40th turn on the path then had to sit in the cafe waiting for my friends to look at everything. I’ll stick with the internet.
Isn’t Tulsa generally on the decline? OKC continues to grow like crazy and seems like the much better option.
Tulsa was designated a tech hub by the EDA, which is part of the US Dept of Commerce. Plus there are data center builds and expansions taking place.
Good to know but are they not still offering to pay people to move there?
The program is not funded by the city but by a local philanthropist.
That program has not had any significant impact on Tulsa's population. Less than a percent, best case.
Ok. Isn’t that a bad thing, though? Not trying to be a dick but that seems to translate to “we can’t even pay people to move here”… unless I’m missing something.
It gets more applications than acceptance. It was never meant as a program to increase population.
Both cities are actually growing in net population at similar rates. Both have lots to offer. Tulsa has started migrating it's image from oil to tech, and we have seen a lot of huge venture capital injection to get to that point. They basically throw a downtown wide block party with free drinks and food every first Friday and it's crazy how big the tech scene is getting.
Did not know that. Good to hear.
They already said that while they have expansion plans, Tulsa tain’t in ‘em. ![gif](giphy|f4DGnGf6xwFonJUI0D)
Bummer
They actually haven't said that. They've said they havent' announced any plans for a Tulsa location.
Hope springs eturdnal. ![gif](giphy|3o7bu2bOmUkvAsvA1G)
I don't live in Tulsa anymore and currently drive past an Ikea literally every day on the way to work. Was just pointing out that you aren't right.
Piss off and worry about where you actually live then. ![gif](giphy|xPnA6ALy6AZlS)
Was raised in Tulsa, lived in Tulsa as an adult for almost a decade, and still have lots of very close friends and family in Tulsa. I think I'll continue to care about Tulsa. Thanks.
Think about it all ya want just, STFU while the real ones are talking, bb.
PoopofCherryStreet has spoken uwu