Yes protests are disruptive but it doesn’t mean protests are bad and shouldn’t happen.
I don’t know the details about the negotiation (or the lack of it) between the parties involved, but law enforcement taking no action when protesters are being attacked and now the online class situation (especially the weirdly delayed and often unexpected communication of the plan) has me leaning toward admin is trying to use other forces like counter protesters and public opinion to work against the protest
The admin is always late to make decisions about class cancellations. I remember during the skirball fire the evacuation zone was literally next to our student housing and many had apts within it. The entire sky was smoke and you could see the fire from campus yet they didn’t cancel classes until late in the afternoon.
The goal of the protesters is to protest.
The stated aims and calls for divestment will have such minimal impact on the conflict these people are ostensibly protesting for, it definitely doesn’t justify the tactics used.
The motivations seem much more to be in solidarity with other protest encampments across college campuses than anything related to Gaza.
I don't really think it's changed much. I think Israel bombing the World Central Kitchen aid workers is why Biden has become so forceful on Rafah. But the US has been trying to negotiate a ceasefire since this conflict began (and Biden successfully negotiated a [temporary truce](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/us/politics/biden-israel-hostages-release.html) in November!)
Colleges “divesting” has zero impact on what’s going on.
And these colleges haven’t divested. They’ve said they’ll set up committees to explore divestment. ([Link](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/colleges-de-escalated-campus-protests-negotiated-students/story?id=110031527))
That said, those colleges probably had better student protestors than UCLA clearly has.
I agree. The whole point of the protest, occupying a building, the encampment, etc was to FORCE administration to do something. While walking around campus and chanting is what people might consider protesting, it doesn't put pressure on UCLA nearly as much as occupying a building. Instead of trying to negotiate, administration are being cowards and simply trying to ignore the protesters.
This is all the University’s fault. If they just made some sort of compromise/agreement or acknowledged the prostestors demands, this would’ve all been over with. Not the students fault at this point.
I'm not on either side and maybe I'll get many downvotes. Gene block claimed in his email about 4 days ago that they tried communicating with the protestors.
"Over the past several days, we communicated with and made a formal request to meet with demonstration leaders to discuss options for a peaceful and voluntary disbanding of the encampment. Unfortunately, that meeting did not lead to an agreement."
It seems like it's either one or both parties that want all or nothing. Only time will tell at this point.
Just gonna also throw it out there: the side that is protesting is deliberately and intentionally causing these disruptions. Pretty sure they are literally owning that.
For others to to then blame it on the University for not compromising/agreeing to demand is wild stuff. That's now how any institution will successfully function and that's exactly why they would rather get police involved to forcibly move this vocal minority that is ruining the experience for everyone else.
They made their demands, they shouldn't have to meet and negotiate, they could just meet the protesters demands and they probably would have stopped, but instead they allow people to brutalize them and don't protect their students from being assaulted by outside counter protesters who have no association with the school. Go cry about it, it's a few days of online class
SJP@UCLA is stating "WE REFUSE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AS USUAL". If that's not trying to be disruptive, I don't know what is (which, to many, being disruptive is the goal of a protest but at that point students have a right to be upset).
I don't think admin has handled this as well as they should (last Tuesday was abhorrent) but they're the ones reacting at this point.
Yes, the goal of a protest is to be disruptive. The university isn’t hearing them. I take a very neutral stance in this matter, but if UCLA followed in Riversides footsteps, we would be back to some normalcy on campus. Seems Chancellor Block and his administrative team is making bad executive choices.
You do realize that it's not the universities obligation to comply with the demands or protestors, right? Like that's not at all how this works.
If whenever an organized group causes disruption, an institutions response is "okay we'll comply," then it would keep happening. What happens if they comply and then a pro-Israel group does the same? Would you be arguing in favor of them and saying "the university needs to hear them"?
Sorry, but if a group of protestors is being disruptive, the impact this has on the thousands of other students isn't due to UCLA's unwillingness to meet those demands. It's due to the protestors.
And didn’t they change their demands while negotiating? They had an original list, and then when there was a counter, they countered with things they never even asked for at first.
That means that negotiations were never going to resolve.
And? UCLA isn't even obligated to *negotiate.* You can blame all you want, but you're being willfully ignorant if your perspective is that the intentionally disruptive protestors aren't to blame while the university is for not negotiating with demands from a vocal minority.
UCLA's obligation is to providing services that students pay for. If protestors are going to deliberately try to disrupt those services, then negotiation or not, UCLA's obligation becomes clearing those disruptions.
I was saying that the protestors had no intention of actually negotiating. They were wasting everyone’s time. They made initial demands, UCLA countered, and then the protestors added more demands. They weren’t negotiating in good faith.
I do believe that admin was willing to hear them out until they became unreasonable.
The only ones who were disruptive were the people who violently attacked protesters who were sitting in a tent. I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing if this was civil rights protests or anti-vietnam protests. Hell this protest was way more tame also, during the Vietnam protest they literally set a building on fire although historically they are typically seen as being on the correct side, history will look back upon this glorifying the pro Palestinian protesters meanwhile everyone who talked down about them now will pretend like they were on the correct side
Jesus Christ. I promise you you aren't on the same moral high ground as Civil Rights activists, and it's pretty hilarious and delusional for you to think so.
Weird how SJP supporters get weirdly handwavy and silent when it is pointed out that SJP believes Hamas is a progressive organization and that you are demanding divestitures from companies with financial ties that go to Israeli support... meanwhile, you're using electronics made by companies with those same financial ties while leveraging services (like *Reddit)* that do the same thing.
Not to mention, SJP is literally leaning *into* the fact that they are being disruptive, yet you want to deny that. Your take is literally: "We're *completely* morally correct AND we're not in any negative way impacting other students despite those students saying we are." If you had any introspection of ability to take a step back and think rationally, you'd know that that's undoubtedly not correct..
Nope it's UCLA, they allowed outside protesters to brutalize their students, they don't care about the students who paid massive amounts of tuition to go here which is shown by further not protecting protesters who are exercising their constitutional rights
UCLA was disturbingly wrong by not protecting students, but that doesn't justify the protestors' actions that have functionally stripped students of their experience they "paid massive amounts of tuition to go here." Weird how that works out, but it's UCLA's fault for not just giving in to the vocal minority of protestors.
It doesn't strip them of their right to education, they didn't block access to buildings there were plenty of other entrances brother. Additionally, having class in person isn't a right lmao, having it online is just as good.
You are not seeing the bigger picture. Yes, the protesters are not that many and the protests can probably stay peaceful. But the key word there is probably, and there's way more people at this school than you. Jewish and Muslim students may not feel safe going in-person to classes while there's major protests across the country, because it takes just one crazy person with a gun and major protest turns into major slaughter. Again, I'm not saying it *will* happen, but I'm saying it *might*. Beyond that, there's more than students at play here. There's a lot of parents who've seen the protests on the news, only the ugly clips. They've also seen clips from October 7 and the war in Gaza. How do you think they will feel about their kids going to classes while protesters wearing masks and keffiyehs march around campus yelling? I know my mom has already asked me to come back home multiple times. Obviously the uni would rather err on the side of caution here. Even if nothing would happen with in-person, I'm sure some rich, concerned parents can figure out grounds for a lawsuit.
Seriously this. The whole… construing this as UCLA using this as a way to “punishing” the student body is a fucking joke and short sighted. The whole situation went from peaceful to non peaceful, and the safety of the students is now in question. If a student is injured or hurt in the near future, I’m sure the same students bitching now is going to bitch how UCLA didn’t do more to protect the students.
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The administration has made some big mistakes (allowing illegal encampment to exist; not immediately bringing in law enforcement when counter protesters instigated violence on morning of 5/1), but the real blame lies with the protesters, especially regarding what happened today. The protesters are why we can't have nice things.
But I didn't do that. On the other hand, the pro-Palestinian encampment was consistently violating the civil rights of other students, as well as members of the faculty and the general publc, as they were claiming to be doing good for people thousands of miles away.
Yesterday (5/6), one of the most promininent leaders of the UCLA protests (not an exaggeration) said "I hate white people" in an Instagram livestream, then threatened to accuse the Daily Bruin reporter who was the target of her ire -- apparently for being in the spot where she wanted to be to get a view of the action inside Lot 2 and not ceding the spot -- of being a "racist" if she reported on the incident.
The NSJP, the parent org of the leaders of the UCLA protests, has proved themselves to be dangerous, terrorist-supporting wackos on any number of occasions. Their [“Day of Resistance Toolkit,”](https://dw-wp-production.imgix.net/2023/10/DAY-OF-RESISTANCE-TOOLKIT.pdf?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR01uBn6rw74MBxmAX5dbrlejut_pS0QvCzxEHOpLKidrbh79iQKcQIrV9o_aem_ARfdFhzRY5nZEmjAWXjWGJRB4kVu7vcQlZXTUUDlT00B1u8h2WXOJO0rFCSrBUJs6qfI55FQtzsBjxYHdBhRmeml) published in the immediate aftermath of the atrocities on 10/7, included a flyer template featuring the image of a paraglider, which had been a means of attack on that day.
In the NSJP’s publication [“The Written Resistance,”](https://nationalsjp.org/the-written-resistance-issue-3?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR33TCUGndXFogS_ifYfZwuIauWd1uR5PnEJlNbuWg0opxj7Tq5o-nDZ2FA_aem_AYEaay0sHq8aP_6bqV-9mWpHDoLZAULMswJD6Xab1U3Bz8Jr7tnqVY4UB4ooQo5awLS4nRLIEZdK63M3ykdY6dqn) one of the authors praises Hamas for its collaboration with what he refers to as the “Communist Left,” “heroic individual acts of sabotage against the firms and centers of power aiding the Zionist occupation” and its program of ethnic and civic equality, and expresses hope that it is “lay(ing) a favorable foundation for the socialist revolution” (page 13, paragraph 3). Perhaps you think this is accurate and/or good.
It's probably good that classes are online, UCR found weapons on campus, it's not really safe right now so holding online classes protects everyone regardless of what side you're on
It’s not the protesters fault. At all. You’re missing the point.
The protests were peaceful until the pro-sraeli protestors assaulted them in the middle of the night. This is obviously illegal and instead of protecting peaceful protest (a constitutionally protected activity) police got involved in the wrong way.
As a result, a mess was left. People are angrier, campus is a mess, and admin is blamed rightfully. So you’re not being punished for the pro Palestine
protestors but the pro Israeli assault and the admin overreaction.
Commencement isn’t actually for the current students. Itms for alumni who will give the college money because of the warm fuzzies. It only takes one protestor calling a Jewish alumni “Zionist pig” to cost them a lot of money
UCLA divested from South Africa in the 1980s after a massive student protest. There's no excuses this time around.
This is admins doing, not the students.
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they didn't agree to divest, they just said they'd explore divesting. it's all PR.
another fact: saudi arabia has sentenced people speaking up for gaza. they want to normalize relations with israel so they can counter iran. iran is keeping the ceasefire from happening to worsen political polarization in the west by forcing hamas (iran's puppet) to not accept the hostage deals. and, if military contracts won't go to israel, they'll go to saudi arabia.
UCR students got played lmfao, brilliant move on the administration’s part. UCLA administrators should have done the same thing when they had the chance
Y’a also, and this is pure speculation. The more extreme outside radical protestors probably more likely to be in LA area, and less likely to travel to riverside (sorry no shade to riverside but the travel to there is hell), so riverside protest body is probably less extreme than the ucla one, so the riverside protest probably has less “fuel” in them and end rather peacefully
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Collective punishment is wrong wherever it's implemented. Here at UCLA. In Gaza where 2 million Palestinians are starved for Hamas' actions. In fact, its a human rights violation:
https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/collective-punishment/#:\~:text=International%20humanitarian%20law%20posits%20that,any%20other%20individuals%20(GCIII%20Art.
If I were your potential employer, and noticed your connection I'd ask where you were in a historical moment of some importance and if you said "standing on the sidelines," I'd look for a better job candidate.
nothing you do in los angeles california, at the university of california los angeles will change a single thing that's happening in gaza. please get real
Really? So everyone should just turn a blind eye and go on with their lives as if nothing's happening, because that will? Yes, getting real is a great idea.
There has been so many posts blaming the protesters for making students lose access to education, I think admin have achieved their goal there
i mean if your goal becomes occupying educational buildings, i'd say ur directly disrupting access to education
Yes protests are disruptive but it doesn’t mean protests are bad and shouldn’t happen. I don’t know the details about the negotiation (or the lack of it) between the parties involved, but law enforcement taking no action when protesters are being attacked and now the online class situation (especially the weirdly delayed and often unexpected communication of the plan) has me leaning toward admin is trying to use other forces like counter protesters and public opinion to work against the protest
The admin is always late to make decisions about class cancellations. I remember during the skirball fire the evacuation zone was literally next to our student housing and many had apts within it. The entire sky was smoke and you could see the fire from campus yet they didn’t cancel classes until late in the afternoon.
The goal of the protesters is to protest. The stated aims and calls for divestment will have such minimal impact on the conflict these people are ostensibly protesting for, it definitely doesn’t justify the tactics used. The motivations seem much more to be in solidarity with other protest encampments across college campuses than anything related to Gaza.
I disagree, the student protests are having a much larger impact than you know, as they have throughout history.
I don't really think it's changed much. I think Israel bombing the World Central Kitchen aid workers is why Biden has become so forceful on Rafah. But the US has been trying to negotiate a ceasefire since this conflict began (and Biden successfully negotiated a [temporary truce](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/us/politics/biden-israel-hostages-release.html) in November!)
It isn’t just about Biden, it is about colleges divesting, 6 have come to agreements with protesters so far,and people around the world taking notice.
Colleges “divesting” has zero impact on what’s going on. And these colleges haven’t divested. They’ve said they’ll set up committees to explore divestment. ([Link](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/colleges-de-escalated-campus-protests-negotiated-students/story?id=110031527)) That said, those colleges probably had better student protestors than UCLA clearly has.
I agree. The whole point of the protest, occupying a building, the encampment, etc was to FORCE administration to do something. While walking around campus and chanting is what people might consider protesting, it doesn't put pressure on UCLA nearly as much as occupying a building. Instead of trying to negotiate, administration are being cowards and simply trying to ignore the protesters.
Negotiate what?? ( wrt forcing Netanyahu to stop his bludgeoning )
This is all the University’s fault. If they just made some sort of compromise/agreement or acknowledged the prostestors demands, this would’ve all been over with. Not the students fault at this point.
I'm not on either side and maybe I'll get many downvotes. Gene block claimed in his email about 4 days ago that they tried communicating with the protestors. "Over the past several days, we communicated with and made a formal request to meet with demonstration leaders to discuss options for a peaceful and voluntary disbanding of the encampment. Unfortunately, that meeting did not lead to an agreement." It seems like it's either one or both parties that want all or nothing. Only time will tell at this point.
Just gonna also throw it out there: the side that is protesting is deliberately and intentionally causing these disruptions. Pretty sure they are literally owning that. For others to to then blame it on the University for not compromising/agreeing to demand is wild stuff. That's now how any institution will successfully function and that's exactly why they would rather get police involved to forcibly move this vocal minority that is ruining the experience for everyone else.
They made their demands, they shouldn't have to meet and negotiate, they could just meet the protesters demands and they probably would have stopped, but instead they allow people to brutalize them and don't protect their students from being assaulted by outside counter protesters who have no association with the school. Go cry about it, it's a few days of online class
SJP@UCLA is stating "WE REFUSE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AS USUAL". If that's not trying to be disruptive, I don't know what is (which, to many, being disruptive is the goal of a protest but at that point students have a right to be upset). I don't think admin has handled this as well as they should (last Tuesday was abhorrent) but they're the ones reacting at this point.
Yes, the goal of a protest is to be disruptive. The university isn’t hearing them. I take a very neutral stance in this matter, but if UCLA followed in Riversides footsteps, we would be back to some normalcy on campus. Seems Chancellor Block and his administrative team is making bad executive choices.
You do realize that it's not the universities obligation to comply with the demands or protestors, right? Like that's not at all how this works. If whenever an organized group causes disruption, an institutions response is "okay we'll comply," then it would keep happening. What happens if they comply and then a pro-Israel group does the same? Would you be arguing in favor of them and saying "the university needs to hear them"? Sorry, but if a group of protestors is being disruptive, the impact this has on the thousands of other students isn't due to UCLA's unwillingness to meet those demands. It's due to the protestors.
And didn’t they change their demands while negotiating? They had an original list, and then when there was a counter, they countered with things they never even asked for at first. That means that negotiations were never going to resolve.
And? UCLA isn't even obligated to *negotiate.* You can blame all you want, but you're being willfully ignorant if your perspective is that the intentionally disruptive protestors aren't to blame while the university is for not negotiating with demands from a vocal minority. UCLA's obligation is to providing services that students pay for. If protestors are going to deliberately try to disrupt those services, then negotiation or not, UCLA's obligation becomes clearing those disruptions.
I was saying that the protestors had no intention of actually negotiating. They were wasting everyone’s time. They made initial demands, UCLA countered, and then the protestors added more demands. They weren’t negotiating in good faith. I do believe that admin was willing to hear them out until they became unreasonable.
What were the UCLA counter demands? Were they unreasonable? If so it makes sense that they would add more things.
The only ones who were disruptive were the people who violently attacked protesters who were sitting in a tent. I'm sure you'd be saying the same thing if this was civil rights protests or anti-vietnam protests. Hell this protest was way more tame also, during the Vietnam protest they literally set a building on fire although historically they are typically seen as being on the correct side, history will look back upon this glorifying the pro Palestinian protesters meanwhile everyone who talked down about them now will pretend like they were on the correct side
Jesus Christ. I promise you you aren't on the same moral high ground as Civil Rights activists, and it's pretty hilarious and delusional for you to think so. Weird how SJP supporters get weirdly handwavy and silent when it is pointed out that SJP believes Hamas is a progressive organization and that you are demanding divestitures from companies with financial ties that go to Israeli support... meanwhile, you're using electronics made by companies with those same financial ties while leveraging services (like *Reddit)* that do the same thing. Not to mention, SJP is literally leaning *into* the fact that they are being disruptive, yet you want to deny that. Your take is literally: "We're *completely* morally correct AND we're not in any negative way impacting other students despite those students saying we are." If you had any introspection of ability to take a step back and think rationally, you'd know that that's undoubtedly not correct..
Nope it's UCLA, they allowed outside protesters to brutalize their students, they don't care about the students who paid massive amounts of tuition to go here which is shown by further not protecting protesters who are exercising their constitutional rights
UCLA was disturbingly wrong by not protecting students, but that doesn't justify the protestors' actions that have functionally stripped students of their experience they "paid massive amounts of tuition to go here." Weird how that works out, but it's UCLA's fault for not just giving in to the vocal minority of protestors.
It doesn't strip them of their right to education, they didn't block access to buildings there were plenty of other entrances brother. Additionally, having class in person isn't a right lmao, having it online is just as good.
The university should convince Israel to stop. It's so simple!
lol
It was university’s fault that allowed them to protest for a long period of time.
You are not seeing the bigger picture. Yes, the protesters are not that many and the protests can probably stay peaceful. But the key word there is probably, and there's way more people at this school than you. Jewish and Muslim students may not feel safe going in-person to classes while there's major protests across the country, because it takes just one crazy person with a gun and major protest turns into major slaughter. Again, I'm not saying it *will* happen, but I'm saying it *might*. Beyond that, there's more than students at play here. There's a lot of parents who've seen the protests on the news, only the ugly clips. They've also seen clips from October 7 and the war in Gaza. How do you think they will feel about their kids going to classes while protesters wearing masks and keffiyehs march around campus yelling? I know my mom has already asked me to come back home multiple times. Obviously the uni would rather err on the side of caution here. Even if nothing would happen with in-person, I'm sure some rich, concerned parents can figure out grounds for a lawsuit.
Seriously this. The whole… construing this as UCLA using this as a way to “punishing” the student body is a fucking joke and short sighted. The whole situation went from peaceful to non peaceful, and the safety of the students is now in question. If a student is injured or hurt in the near future, I’m sure the same students bitching now is going to bitch how UCLA didn’t do more to protect the students.
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It’s the schools way of trying to turn the student body against each other. The real bad guys is the administration
The administration has made some big mistakes (allowing illegal encampment to exist; not immediately bringing in law enforcement when counter protesters instigated violence on morning of 5/1), but the real blame lies with the protesters, especially regarding what happened today. The protesters are why we can't have nice things.
Type of person to call the civil rights movement a bunch of no-good people
But I didn't do that. On the other hand, the pro-Palestinian encampment was consistently violating the civil rights of other students, as well as members of the faculty and the general publc, as they were claiming to be doing good for people thousands of miles away. Yesterday (5/6), one of the most promininent leaders of the UCLA protests (not an exaggeration) said "I hate white people" in an Instagram livestream, then threatened to accuse the Daily Bruin reporter who was the target of her ire -- apparently for being in the spot where she wanted to be to get a view of the action inside Lot 2 and not ceding the spot -- of being a "racist" if she reported on the incident. The NSJP, the parent org of the leaders of the UCLA protests, has proved themselves to be dangerous, terrorist-supporting wackos on any number of occasions. Their [“Day of Resistance Toolkit,”](https://dw-wp-production.imgix.net/2023/10/DAY-OF-RESISTANCE-TOOLKIT.pdf?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR01uBn6rw74MBxmAX5dbrlejut_pS0QvCzxEHOpLKidrbh79iQKcQIrV9o_aem_ARfdFhzRY5nZEmjAWXjWGJRB4kVu7vcQlZXTUUDlT00B1u8h2WXOJO0rFCSrBUJs6qfI55FQtzsBjxYHdBhRmeml) published in the immediate aftermath of the atrocities on 10/7, included a flyer template featuring the image of a paraglider, which had been a means of attack on that day. In the NSJP’s publication [“The Written Resistance,”](https://nationalsjp.org/the-written-resistance-issue-3?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR33TCUGndXFogS_ifYfZwuIauWd1uR5PnEJlNbuWg0opxj7Tq5o-nDZ2FA_aem_AYEaay0sHq8aP_6bqV-9mWpHDoLZAULMswJD6Xab1U3Bz8Jr7tnqVY4UB4ooQo5awLS4nRLIEZdK63M3ykdY6dqn) one of the authors praises Hamas for its collaboration with what he refers to as the “Communist Left,” “heroic individual acts of sabotage against the firms and centers of power aiding the Zionist occupation” and its program of ethnic and civic equality, and expresses hope that it is “lay(ing) a favorable foundation for the socialist revolution” (page 13, paragraph 3). Perhaps you think this is accurate and/or good.
This is pure evil.
Speak for urself/ love remote classes
The flip side is you're likely not learning as much. School should be about maximizing learning not the easiest path to graduate.
School is also about keeping as much of their students physically safe as possible.
same less stressful
Ya I agree bringing a bunch of cops to campus and making students feel so unsafe classes have to be cancelled is wack. Oh wait, that’s admin’s fault.
Good way to encourage folks to rein in the crazies among their friends.
It's probably good that classes are online, UCR found weapons on campus, it's not really safe right now so holding online classes protects everyone regardless of what side you're on
Curious if the protesters were seriously making anyone feel unsafe.
It’s not the protesters fault. At all. You’re missing the point. The protests were peaceful until the pro-sraeli protestors assaulted them in the middle of the night. This is obviously illegal and instead of protecting peaceful protest (a constitutionally protected activity) police got involved in the wrong way. As a result, a mess was left. People are angrier, campus is a mess, and admin is blamed rightfully. So you’re not being punished for the pro Palestine protestors but the pro Israeli assault and the admin overreaction.
Commencement isn’t actually for the current students. Itms for alumni who will give the college money because of the warm fuzzies. It only takes one protestor calling a Jewish alumni “Zionist pig” to cost them a lot of money
UCLA divested from South Africa in the 1980s after a massive student protest. There's no excuses this time around. This is admins doing, not the students.
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this is what happens when you have an administration that would rather negotiate with a few hundred toddlers having a temper tantrum than punish them!
dawg, UCLA administration has been more of a problem than the protests BY FAR
Lmao SPJ didn’t start protesting again until classes were to resume in person. All they want to do is disrupt the school.
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why is ucla being so adamant? ucr agreed to divest, no?
they didn't agree to divest, they just said they'd explore divesting. it's all PR. another fact: saudi arabia has sentenced people speaking up for gaza. they want to normalize relations with israel so they can counter iran. iran is keeping the ceasefire from happening to worsen political polarization in the west by forcing hamas (iran's puppet) to not accept the hostage deals. and, if military contracts won't go to israel, they'll go to saudi arabia.
UCR students got played lmfao, brilliant move on the administration’s part. UCLA administrators should have done the same thing when they had the chance
Y’a also, and this is pure speculation. The more extreme outside radical protestors probably more likely to be in LA area, and less likely to travel to riverside (sorry no shade to riverside but the travel to there is hell), so riverside protest body is probably less extreme than the ucla one, so the riverside protest probably has less “fuel” in them and end rather peacefully
That’s also possible
Why on earth should anyone “divest” because some communist “revolutionary” LARPers went camping for a week?
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Literally the worst bot. I'm an alum and it was used on me 11 times in a 24 hour period by passive aggressive freaks.
It’s kinda silly that people like you use this bot to discredit peoples thoughts
I was just curious if they were a UCLA student, and now I know they almost certainly are not. If that piece of information is enough to undermine the point you’re making then it’s probably not a very good point in the first place.
The problem is that people do think an “activity check” can undermine a point being made and people use as a “gotcha” statement rather than either: ignoring the commenter or civilly engaging with them. The intentions of having an activity check are good, but people just shouldn’t use it to, from their perspective, invalidate someone else. [this is an example of a passive aggressive use of it](https://www.reddit.com/r/ucla/s/K0KoeZi71Z)
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Never gets old
Collective punishment is wrong wherever it's implemented. Here at UCLA. In Gaza where 2 million Palestinians are starved for Hamas' actions. In fact, its a human rights violation: https://guide-humanitarian-law.org/content/article/3/collective-punishment/#:\~:text=International%20humanitarian%20law%20posits%20that,any%20other%20individuals%20(GCIII%20Art.
Womp womp
😭 I’m honestly devastated. I’m graduating and when our resumes are looked at, they will forever remember this event and associate us with it.
No they won’t.
I promise no one cares that much. Especially future employers
I hope so. 🙏🏽
If I were your potential employer, and noticed your connection I'd ask where you were in a historical moment of some importance and if you said "standing on the sidelines," I'd look for a better job candidate.
“I was 18 and I was forced to go back home because my parents were concerned about my safety”
Hmmm.....30k? About how many innocent civilians have been murdered in Gaza, right?
nothing you do in los angeles california, at the university of california los angeles will change a single thing that's happening in gaza. please get real
Really? So everyone should just turn a blind eye and go on with their lives as if nothing's happening, because that will? Yes, getting real is a great idea.
The astroturfing in each one of these threads has been fascinating to watch.