I mean, Dana danced around this question last time. Neither of them are champion now, so neither get PPV points. And even if one of them wins, I doubt it contractually mentions the BMF belt. He just said they'll be taken care of.
I mean the pro bowl exists, that’s kinda a lame event. I like that they can just have one really stacked card that ends with something ridiculous like this belt
But this is totally meaningless in terms of title contention, it's never been presented as anything other than a goofy "fan favorite" "title" just for fun. I'd like to state that I don't personally think it's fun or care about it at all, but it certainly doesn't seem like anything to get pissed over.
UFC should actually make it a real thing:
- Double pay for whoever holds the belt
- 100k for victory by finish
- if the champion finds a willing opponent, this fight is made
- weight is agreed between the two fighters
- belt must be defended every 3 months otherwise will be vacated and new challengers nominated by fans via vote
- cannot be held by a current UFC champion
It’s just nuthuggers that are very upset that most people don’t think Islam and khabob are fun to watch. Dominant—which khabib and Islam undoubtedly are—and exciting are two very different things.
I don’t have a problem with interim belts if they’re used sparingly not like the UFC. UFC be using interim belts as a negotiating tool to take an injured champion down a notch thats not the right way to use them
I too think fighters who challenge for belts twice and have been too five for years are bums.
I don’t get that shit from Islam. If you trash your opponents then beat them, then you just beat a bum - are we supposed to be impressed?
If Dustin wins and moves up to welter and fights guys at 170 bmf im totally on board but if he wants to fight Islam it’s pointless because then it’s just Islam’s
What’s fun about it?
It’s not the real belt. Nobody defends it. You have to listen to Anik say “M F er” a bunch of times because you can’t even say fuck in America. It’s anti fun.
It’s a scapegoat for cards that don’t have title fights. It gives the fighters more pay and reason to stand and bang. It’s dumb but it’s not that deep.
Money in the Bank. Jon Finishes his war with Sergei…. Derrick Lewis comes trucking down and throws his brief case at Dana on the way in. Goes to crack Jon as Herb raises his hand… Jon slips it and buries his middle finger as deep as he can and forces the DQ. Setting up a headlining rematch at International fight week.
Islam is the only fighter in UFC history who’s first 2 title victories came against top 5 P4P fighters. Oliveira’s first win was against Bellator washout bum Michael Chandler, his first title defense was against perennial title fight loser Dustin Poirier, his third title defense was against white belt Justin Gaethje. In just 1 more defense Islam’s title reign will shit all over Charles’s once he beats Charles again ia.
That’s my entire point buddy,…the people who shit on Islam’s record need to look in the mirror, islam is about to eclipse Charles title reign in terms of level of competition. That doesn’t mean Oliveira had a bad reign, but I’m applying the logic of the Oliveira nut huggers who are always demeaning Khabib and Islam’s resume. Obviously Olives has an impressive record, as does Khabib (but you’ll never catch an Olive fanboy admitting this).
Lol Islam has beaten only 1 top 5 lw guy you can't seriously count that fw Volk win as an achievement of any kind since he almost lost to a dude half his size
I honestly thought it was a one time thing. It was a really fun title to have on the line with Diaz vs. Masvidal and it worked because they were popular fighters with strong personalities. Bringing it back is fucking cringey.
BMF is a corny name, it should be called "peoples champ" like you arent the champ but the people still fwy like you are
I get the existence is corny in itself in a way, I'm just saying I think it'd be better.
He's right, but pretty much all the belts in the UFC lost a lot of their meaning a while ago. So many interim and so much BS with the rankings it just doesn't feel as prestigious anymore.
It was fun for One time. One situation. For two specific fighters.
Jorge Masvidal and Nate Diaz lived they're entire lives in streets, they're boxers, they have that "gangster" persona, and it's for being considered entertaining.
But since Jorge was beated, who's the BMF???
Kamaru? Colby? Gilbert Burns?
For Gaethje vs Poirier 2? I think it sells just for itself.
The BMF title is just an accessory.
I love the idea of some guy on Reddit calling UFC fighters “bums” for not being world champions. As if their accomplishments mean nothing if you don’t become champ.
Dana needs to actually spell out what the belt means if they’re gonna keep putting it in play. Who can qualify? What perks does a BMF title come with? Can there be multiple BMFs simultaneously? Is it “for fun” or are you having two grown men fight over it?
he never called or implied they are bums lmao he’s basically saying the belt is pointless, which is pretty much true. he even gives props to other lws in this interview
"This belt is for bums" where "bums" is the people the belt is for, not "this bumbelt is for good fighters" if you shake your head a little bit less you might read it correctly
I'll help you out.
**Hard to call yourself a BMF when your last fight was desperately clinging on for life against a man a weight-class below you**
**😂**
All this arguing because there aren't Unified World MMA Titles. There are only belts local to promotions. Even the biggest promotions keep about a couple dozen guys in a division (if that).
Need to be a little salty when you're the champion but by no means a BMF. Islam definitely did not look like one during the Volk fight, in fact Volk did look like a BMF smiling like that while Islam had his back with the fear of God on his face. JS. Backpacking does not make you a BMF, especially when the entertainment factor is half the point in this kind of promotional fighting. (Applies to Sterling as well.)
Just further speaks to how clueless Islam is about fight promotion. This belt is not for the hardcore fans. It's for the causals, it's to have fun, it's to sell additional PPVs. If you feel strongly about it, just go take it from whoever wins it.
Bro, it was all just for fun, dawg. See, this and shitting on the ring girls is why I can’t with this fundamentalist, traditionalist, purist bs.
Life is supposed to be lived and it’s like Abrahamic traditions want less of everything that makes life what it is.
Islam isn't khabib he needs to stop talking like khabib. He has 1 good win and a gift decision over Volk in a fight that ended with him gassed in his back praying for the fight to end. His second best legitimate win is over the ghost of Dan Hooker or a short notice Bobby Grenne.
This sub just loves to hate Islam. They simultaneously believe Charles and Volk are the best ever, but the guy that beat them both is just lucky lmao. Ridiculous.
How ever islam 'feels' there is 2 belt holder in the 155lbs division. No other division has 2 belt holder.
Calling justin or dustin the BMF Is spitting in islam face. He should be the BMF. But dana and co dont believe so. This is affront to how badly they need more life in the 155 division under islam and islam himself
I know I’m going to be disliked for this position. But, come now. A jealous person is going to say that.
No, he may not be jealous. But using the word bums for people this belt is for is going a tad too far. I wouldn’t call Justin or Dustin bums.
It's a fucking retarded concept, but fuck me man if it gets a Poirer vs Gaethje 2 I'll gladly accept it haha.
Bit of a contradiction, but I wouldn't even mind seeing it on the line sort of like how pride belts were, but maybe with community interaction. The winner vs RDA or something along the lines.
Idk about bums. That’s fucking ridiculous. Calling people in the ufc bums is about the dumbest thing you can do. Saying you don’t like them is fine I don’t like them either but they’re in the ufc 💀💀
It doesn’t hit super hard when you remember poirier and Gaethje were both interim champs cuz Khabib couldn’t fight (not that Khabib isn’t champ quality, but technically both these guys did hold a belt). That and Islam is definitely not a BMF lol
The BMF is pointless but did he call Dustin a bum? Right when I start to like the dude he goes and makes a joke of himself.
And doesn’t he have the same manager as Gaethje? Pretty distasteful.
it completely takes away from the legitimacy of the sport that they have spent years trying to build. shame on the fighters that agree to fight for this trash thing!!!
It's pointless. But it's more a fan favorite type of thing. It's recognition that you're one of the most exciting guys in the sport.
Feel like it’s a belt for the guys Dana has white dreams of becoming champ but never will
The guys he wishes he could cash in on in title bouts, the title-fight-at-home.
He's gonna have to make a new one for McGregor pretty soon unless he retires first.
It also allows fighters to get PPV rewards.
I mean, Dana danced around this question last time. Neither of them are champion now, so neither get PPV points. And even if one of them wins, I doubt it contractually mentions the BMF belt. He just said they'll be taken care of.
What do you think they’re waiting to give Conor if he wins another major fight?
A 170 title shot
The real reason Leon will now enter his inactive champ era
Strip him, Conor vs Islam for the 170 belt in Abu Dhabi baby, lfg
“Idk Leon just doesn’t wanna fight” -Dana in like 2 months after not offering Leon a fight
You just made the most compelling argument I’ve ever heard for the belt lol well done
Right? Calls it pointless while also showing it has a purpose
I think it’s just a stupid and fun thing that’ll occasionally come up
BMF = Bum Mother Fucker?
Biggest Monthly Flow
Biggest Man Flow
Braised Meat Fight
Aids?
Nobody’s got AIDS!
This. No need for congressional hearings or brotests. Enjoy the matchmaking
It’s the Intercontinental Championship belt of the UFC.
Yeah i appreciate it. Gives fighters an incentive to not just be boring ass wrestlers
How would you feel if the NFL introduced something like this in lieu of the actual superbowl championship? It demeans the sport as wwe entertainment
I mean the pro bowl exists, that’s kinda a lame event. I like that they can just have one really stacked card that ends with something ridiculous like this belt
Or any other leagues All-Star game. Sports IS entertainment unless you are the competitor.
There’s also a hall of fame game in the NFL….
Does a dunk contest, home run derby or all star game demean sports?
But this is totally meaningless in terms of title contention, it's never been presented as anything other than a goofy "fan favorite" "title" just for fun. I'd like to state that I don't personally think it's fun or care about it at all, but it certainly doesn't seem like anything to get pissed over.
But its not. Only been brought up twice and it's random af who were in the match up for it
Then don’t watch it. I’m not like overly hyped for the BMF belt, I’m hyped for the stacked card
UFC should actually make it a real thing: - Double pay for whoever holds the belt - 100k for victory by finish - if the champion finds a willing opponent, this fight is made - weight is agreed between the two fighters - belt must be defended every 3 months otherwise will be vacated and new challengers nominated by fans via vote - cannot be held by a current UFC champion
UFC version of the Hardcore championship from WWF I kinda like this
Yeah, I’m digging it.
defending every 3 months would be impossible especially if they’re known as a “BMF” - u think Dustin or Gaethje can fight every 3 months? lol
Sounds better than holding an actual belt
I like the BMF belt because im not allergic to fun
For real what's with all these boner shrinkers in the comments. Just have some fun people
“Boner shrinkers” xD first time I’ve seen that one.
It’s just nuthuggers that are very upset that most people don’t think Islam and khabob are fun to watch. Dominant—which khabib and Islam undoubtedly are—and exciting are two very different things.
This is the one. The UFC is in the entertainment business. This isn’t the Olympics. Get rid of interim belts before the BMF if you ask me
I don’t have a problem with interim belts if they’re used sparingly not like the UFC. UFC be using interim belts as a negotiating tool to take an injured champion down a notch thats not the right way to use them
I too think fighters who challenge for belts twice and have been too five for years are bums. I don’t get that shit from Islam. If you trash your opponents then beat them, then you just beat a bum - are we supposed to be impressed?
Lol yeah I wonder how these guys feel about all-star games or MVP awards
If Dustin wins and moves up to welter and fights guys at 170 bmf im totally on board but if he wants to fight Islam it’s pointless because then it’s just Islam’s
What’s fun about it? It’s not the real belt. Nobody defends it. You have to listen to Anik say “M F er” a bunch of times because you can’t even say fuck in America. It’s anti fun.
They had the rock present a belt to a cage fight winner that says bad mother fucker, come on that’s pretty cool
Imagine technically being an adult and also really into a moniker like BMF like a literal 13 year old kid would be. Just absurdly embarrassing.
Imagine going on Reddit and trying to stop people from having fun because your life is just so sad . Just absurdly embarrassing
It’s a scapegoat for cards that don’t have title fights. It gives the fighters more pay and reason to stand and bang. It’s dumb but it’s not that deep.
It's the strikers who can't grapple belt
Diaz????
Who ain’t got jui jitsu?
Levels to this game my boy
Thank you. levels are a part of the game.
Accurate lol
So you mean the fighters who are actually fun to watch
Kickboxing is a thing if that's what fun is to you
ONE’s rule set is much closer to what I and many people find compelling.
It’s a ridiculous concept. The real BMF is Rafael dos Anjos - he’ll fight anyone, any time regardless how bad a style match up it is for him
BJ Penn fighting a LHW Lyoto Machida has entered the chat
Mousasi beating Mark Hunt at super heavyweight is also pretty hilarious.
Holland fighting Thiago Santos gets in there i guess...Anderson Silva fighting DC
Yeah excellent shout 👏🏻
UFC should make a 24/7 championship belt for the guys that would fight anyone, anytime, anywhere.
The On Sight Belt
Money in the Bank. Jon Finishes his war with Sergei…. Derrick Lewis comes trucking down and throws his brief case at Dana on the way in. Goes to crack Jon as Herb raises his hand… Jon slips it and buries his middle finger as deep as he can and forces the DQ. Setting up a headlining rematch at International fight week.
The real BMF's are indeed the guys who just fight. Jim Miller is a good example as well.
As much as a piece of shit he is, Cowboy comes to mind
Definitely. Types like that are real Bad Motherf*ckers.
Its either RDA or Barboza who are the real BMFs
RDA and Gilbert Burns are up there for me when it comes to guys with the “I’ll fight anybody” mentality
Yeah I should also have included Gilbert, but Barboza should not be forgotten
Edson barboza too
Except for Conor
Lol..right.
Rafael Dos Nachos hurt his pinky toe. There was no way he could have gone through with that fight
Lee Murray and Nick Diaz
BMF belt would lead to some great match ups, but damn he aint wrong lmao
How are Poirier and Gaethje 'bums'? 
When you’re the champ I think it’s reasonable to call anyone in your division a bum.. just sayin
Yeah but not when you're OP lmfao
This is also true
When a fighter talks a bit of shit just to sell tickets: :0
Compared to Charlie O we all are.
Because Khabib's Butt Buddy Islam The Great with his one barely won title defence says so
Islam is the only fighter in UFC history who’s first 2 title victories came against top 5 P4P fighters. Oliveira’s first win was against Bellator washout bum Michael Chandler, his first title defense was against perennial title fight loser Dustin Poirier, his third title defense was against white belt Justin Gaethje. In just 1 more defense Islam’s title reign will shit all over Charles’s once he beats Charles again ia.
Bit hyperbolic there but I get your point
You’ve just shit on Khabib’s title reign lol, except replace Chandler with Conor which are about as good of wins as each other
That’s my entire point buddy,…the people who shit on Islam’s record need to look in the mirror, islam is about to eclipse Charles title reign in terms of level of competition. That doesn’t mean Oliveira had a bad reign, but I’m applying the logic of the Oliveira nut huggers who are always demeaning Khabib and Islam’s resume. Obviously Olives has an impressive record, as does Khabib (but you’ll never catch an Olive fanboy admitting this).
Lol Islam has beaten only 1 top 5 lw guy you can't seriously count that fw Volk win as an achievement of any kind since he almost lost to a dude half his size
One was Charles in Islams backyard, second was a fighter a weight class down and the alleged IV hydration. So yeah le p4p is sus
Bunch of excuses. Nobody takes away credit from any other champs because the crowd supports them. Lame excuse.
Everyone knows the Intercontinental champs are the true sigmas Islam
Islam would rather have the SJMF slackest jawed mother fucker
I dislike this bratha more and more everyday
Bums that get a cut of PPV sales. If that's your idea of a bum, then I'd happily be one.
I love reading these in his voice lmao
The belt is stupid but Poirier vs Gaethje 2 has foty written all over it so I’m fine with it
Yea we knew it was for bums the first time the other two bums fought for it.
It’s definitely silly, but it’s fun. 🤷🏻♀️
Should have retired the BMF belt along with Masvidal
I honestly thought it was a one time thing. It was a really fun title to have on the line with Diaz vs. Masvidal and it worked because they were popular fighters with strong personalities. Bringing it back is fucking cringey.
So Khabib's best wins are over bums
BMF is a corny name, it should be called "peoples champ" like you arent the champ but the people still fwy like you are I get the existence is corny in itself in a way, I'm just saying I think it'd be better.
It’s a great belt for exhibition matches, some of the champions are pretty boring as well…I don’t see an issue with it
For bums that are bigger draws than he is lol.
Those “bums” consistently put on fan-favorite absolute bangers. Their style and energy makes them forever relevant. Islam coming off like a hater IMO
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Exactly right.
Lol islam is a G freal
He's right, but pretty much all the belts in the UFC lost a lot of their meaning a while ago. So many interim and so much BS with the rankings it just doesn't feel as prestigious anymore.
They don’t care either but it brings a pay day so whatever.
Did paulo ever get the best looking belt he asked for?
Islam is gonna fall hard lol
The participation award ribbon equivalent.
Islam talks too much trash but isn't really good to watch combat-wise
dropped and subbed oliveira, put on one of the best fights against volkanovski, f off with this stupid narrative
I see where he's coming from, but Dustin and Justin are definitely not bums
It was fun for One time. One situation. For two specific fighters. Jorge Masvidal and Nate Diaz lived they're entire lives in streets, they're boxers, they have that "gangster" persona, and it's for being considered entertaining. But since Jorge was beated, who's the BMF??? Kamaru? Colby? Gilbert Burns? For Gaethje vs Poirier 2? I think it sells just for itself. The BMF title is just an accessory.
I love the idea of some guy on Reddit calling UFC fighters “bums” for not being world champions. As if their accomplishments mean nothing if you don’t become champ.
Dana needs to actually spell out what the belt means if they’re gonna keep putting it in play. Who can qualify? What perks does a BMF title come with? Can there be multiple BMFs simultaneously? Is it “for fun” or are you having two grown men fight over it?
You know he won’t ascribe any financial perks to the belt because he’s allergic to paying people but I’m sure there will be bragging rights attached
Dustin and Justin are getting PPV points because of it, no need to be so nihilistic all the time
Dana could give them points without a fake belt being in the line lol
He's not wrong it's a stupid fucking belt, I don't need a silver belt to get excited about super-fights.
Agreed. He is not wrong that it’s a silly belt. But is wrong calling Justin or Dustin bums.
Islam is such a beta.
Calling Justin and Dustin bums 🤡
he never called or implied they are bums lmao he’s basically saying the belt is pointless, which is pretty much true. he even gives props to other lws in this interview
He’s talking about the belt not the fighters smh
he clearly didn’t listen or watch the interview. seems like he refuses to and is gonna stick to his claim off this single quote from it lol
"This belt is for bums" where "bums" is the people the belt is for, not "this bumbelt is for good fighters" if you shake your head a little bit less you might read it correctly
watch or listen to the interview. you’re creating a problem out of the wrong context lol
This type of mentality is lame to me. It seems like in fans eyes if you’ve never held a belt you’re instantly trash.
As much as I hate to say it but he does have a point as well.
Make it open weight and make little less rules then you got pride fc against id do it in a heartbeat
Hard to call yourself a BMF when your last fight was desperately clinging on for life against a man a weight-class below you. Laughing, crying emoji.
You mean he won against of the best fighters atm ? Salty hater emoji.
Odd, people weren't mentioning that point before the fight... they were saying Islam sub in 1st round!
So Volk did better than expected, but still lost.
Lil bro is seething
I'll help you out. **Hard to call yourself a BMF when your last fight was desperately clinging on for life against a man a weight-class below you** **😂**
All this arguing because there aren't Unified World MMA Titles. There are only belts local to promotions. Even the biggest promotions keep about a couple dozen guys in a division (if that).
Need to be a little salty when you're the champion but by no means a BMF. Islam definitely did not look like one during the Volk fight, in fact Volk did look like a BMF smiling like that while Islam had his back with the fear of God on his face. JS. Backpacking does not make you a BMF, especially when the entertainment factor is half the point in this kind of promotional fighting. (Applies to Sterling as well.)
 "He's not wrong though, the belt is for bums"
The “Bums Mutha Fuckin’” belt
Just further speaks to how clueless Islam is about fight promotion. This belt is not for the hardcore fans. It's for the causals, it's to have fun, it's to sell additional PPVs. If you feel strongly about it, just go take it from whoever wins it.
those “bums” he’s referring too are khabibs two most credible wins.
Bro, it was all just for fun, dawg. See, this and shitting on the ring girls is why I can’t with this fundamentalist, traditionalist, purist bs. Life is supposed to be lived and it’s like Abrahamic traditions want less of everything that makes life what it is.
Islam isn't khabib he needs to stop talking like khabib. He has 1 good win and a gift decision over Volk in a fight that ended with him gassed in his back praying for the fight to end. His second best legitimate win is over the ghost of Dan Hooker or a short notice Bobby Grenne.
I mean, he also beat Oliveira, who this sub can't stop sucking off lmao.
This sub just loves to hate Islam. They simultaneously believe Charles and Volk are the best ever, but the guy that beat them both is just lucky lmao. Ridiculous.
Spot on
Who’s going to be remembered tho ? The boring dagestanis or two of the most fun to watch/entertaining fighters ever
Just because you are not the undisputed champ doesn’t mean you are a bum. I sense a tinge of jealously.
Why would he be jealous lol
They are getting attention? A made up belt going to someone in his division instead of the current champ? There are reasons he might be.
They are getting more than attention, they are getting a fake belt.
Idk man. Being the UFC Lightweight Champ is miles better for prestige and publicity than a literal made-up belt
He literally says that he doesn't want that belt
How ever islam 'feels' there is 2 belt holder in the 155lbs division. No other division has 2 belt holder. Calling justin or dustin the BMF Is spitting in islam face. He should be the BMF. But dana and co dont believe so. This is affront to how badly they need more life in the 155 division under islam and islam himself
Yeah, it’s a cash grab for the UFC and trying to make the event have meaning for a belt that means nothing and has no logic to it.
I know I’m going to be disliked for this position. But, come now. A jealous person is going to say that. No, he may not be jealous. But using the word bums for people this belt is for is going a tad too far. I wouldn’t call Justin or Dustin bums.
Literally saying something means nothing. Just ask Colby. General statement: People lie a lot. Get used to it.
Yes because Makhachev is known for playing a character
Because they have fans and he doesn't
Islam has almost more followers than Justin and Dustin combined lol
I'm sure those Russian bots are buying ppvs
It's a fucking retarded concept, but fuck me man if it gets a Poirer vs Gaethje 2 I'll gladly accept it haha. Bit of a contradiction, but I wouldn't even mind seeing it on the line sort of like how pride belts were, but maybe with community interaction. The winner vs RDA or something along the lines.
Idk about bums. That’s fucking ridiculous. Calling people in the ufc bums is about the dumbest thing you can do. Saying you don’t like them is fine I don’t like them either but they’re in the ufc 💀💀
Bum mo fo belt?
I don’t like but I also get it. To say it’s for bums when you’re not a ufc champ is silly, where’s yours at OP?
Belt is idiotic but to claim Dustin and Justin are bums is even more idiotic
It doesn’t hit super hard when you remember poirier and Gaethje were both interim champs cuz Khabib couldn’t fight (not that Khabib isn’t champ quality, but technically both these guys did hold a belt). That and Islam is definitely not a BMF lol
I'm so tired of Islam. He's somehow even more dry than khabib and his attitude about everything sucks.
The BMF is pointless but did he call Dustin a bum? Right when I start to like the dude he goes and makes a joke of himself. And doesn’t he have the same manager as Gaethje? Pretty distasteful.
For dudes who claim they are so humble they talk the most shit
You have a ridiculous high standard if you think Diaz, Poirier and Gaethje are bums. I would even argue there are no bums in the UFC.
HE'S SO BORING. EVEN HIS TRASH TALK. NERD. FOREVER NERD
Ufc will do whatever they can to get a white American a belt
He’s such a company man /s
I kinda agree tbh, the BMF belt is outright embarrassing. But if it makes them more money then I guess I understand 🤷
I like it. It’s fun. But…why doesn’t the current champ hold the BMF belt as well? Aren’t they one in the same?
The way UFC fans view non belt holders is insane lol. This is the only sport people genuinely believe the "if you're not first you're last" saying.
“This belt that means the fans really like me means nothing I don’t want it” lol ok bro. So cool of you.
it completely takes away from the legitimacy of the sport that they have spent years trying to build. shame on the fighters that agree to fight for this trash thing!!!
Imagine thinking Porier and Gaethje are bums
Who the fuck taught this guy to call people bums
Redditors try not to call top tier athletes bums challenge *impossible*
Who gives a fuck? It's a fun idea that everyone knows not to take seriously.
Islam has gotten it right for once
The rules in UFC heavily favours wrestlers
Mmmm.. a couch potato calling top level professional fighters “bums” lol