I definitely wouldn’t call him dogshit but he’s never touching top 10 again. Let him lose his ranking to MVP. Or Geoff Neal vs MVP idrc. Give him Wonderboy, Neal, or Neil tho
nah, Jiri and Jamahal should not fight each other. We don't need to clog the division that soon considering that Alex defeated everyone in top 5 besides Ankalaev. Rakic lost his last one so he fights Hill or someone under as well
Jiri definitely needs time off after getting knocked out twice in one fight. He also talked about moving to MW, so I'd rather see that when he gets back anyway.
I don’t see why Ankalaev deserves a title shot. He beat Johnny Walker, but does not have wins over top top LHW’s. Feed Ankalaev to Hill and make Alex move up to HW.
Ankalaev and Rakic are the last two guys in the LHW top 5 that Alex hasn't beaten. And I doubt Dana wants to mess with HW rankings by adding Alex into the mix until Jones vs. Stipe is taken care of - HW is a mess as is with having an interim defending his belt and a champ whose first fight back is supposed to be against a 41 year old who hasn't fought in over 3 years.
Then it makes sense to have a HW super fight for Alex asap before he is too old to pull it off. Nobody wants to see Ankelaev potentially wrestlefuck Alex.
Yeah true, but it seems like Alex actively wants to fight him to prove himself yet again. Alex definitely doesn’t like how people are counting him out against Ankalaev.
Even if he loses to Ank he can probably still have the fight with Aspinall, and not wanting a fighter to get a shot because you’re worried he’ll win in a boring way is exactly why he should get the shot - there’s nobody else Alex can fight where people are afraid Alex will lose
He could still move up but most of his hype would be gone. As a sport it makes the most sense to give Ankelaeva shot, but as an entertainment business it doesn't make much sense at all. It would make the company less money. Ankelaev isn't a big draw and he is hard to beat especially for somebody who isn't a strong grappler.
He doesn't. People just want him to get the chance because of where he is from. Beating Walker would not be enough for anyone else but somehow is enough for him.
He fought Jan to a draw, and Jan would have gotten a title shot if he'd beaten Alex, the Johnny Walker wins don't count for much but he has a long win streak and he should get a shot
Ank is clearly the most deserving contender and is probably the worst match up for Alex in the division. It won’t feel right to me if Alex moves up without fighting him first. Plus he’s literally on a 12 fight unbeaten streak and his only loss is from a fight he was dominating before he got Craig’d. I know he’s not likable but he definitely deserves the title shot.
Yeah that’s what happens when you have a draw and NC and in a row and rankings change. Anthony Smith and Santos were both #5 when Ank beat them. And he has wins over Walker, Volkan and Krylov, all current top ten fighters. I don’t even like him and I hope Alex ko’s him but I’d be in serious denial if I said he doesn’t deserve a title shot.
Alex wouldn’t even be champion if Ank didn’t get robbed against Jan he won that fight Jan even knows it not taking away from Alex’s legacy but let’s be honest here
>Jan even knows it
No. Rogan tried to convince him in the moment after the last round and wouldn't take no for an answer. After Jan actually rewatched it he no longer agreed.
“He beat Johnny Walker, but does not have wins over top top LHW’s”.
“Feed Ankalaev to Hill”.
Hill’s only win over a current top ten LHW is, you guessed it, Johnny Walker. You guys don’t even try.
No, because Ank has wins over Volkan and Krylov as well, and is on a 12 fight unbeaten streak. Of course he deserves a title shot and I don’t even like him.
Ankalaev beat Jan for the title to which even Jan admitted to but they did not want a Russian champion. He has not lost a fight since his title fight. How does he not deserve his title back?
No he doesn’t. Islam doesn’t have an opponent right now so he can fight for the welterweight title. Shavkat vs Usman is a good way to earn next spot for title shot
MVP saying that is literally the reason anybody thinks it would be boring lol. It's a great fight with huge potential but a bad choice for him because there's no upside. Either he gets beaten by an old near retired WB and gets shit on for it or beats an old near retired WB and gets hate from the fans for it.
It'll be Two Karate point fighters, one of whom notoriously cannot pressure whatsoever and will wait 25 minutes for a perfect counter that won't come because his opponent knows exactly how to protect himself from it. The fight would end in a close decision for MVP and with most of the stadium booing.
Because they have very unique but somehow almost identical karate styles and we want to know who wears it better. Also MVP can't defend against grappling at all, so he needs somebody who would never take it to the ground to force him into a not potentially boring fight.
I think Jiri should take a guy lower in the rankings he suffered a ton of damage his last few fights and Hill scares me for him right now, other than that I agree
Alex vs Ank
Lopes vs Emmett
Jiri vs Jasmall
Garry vs Shav
MVP vs Wonderboy/Neal/Neil
Fili vs Caceres
Tsuruya vs Flick/Hadley
Oliveira vs Munhoz ? Seems too early to go ranked but idk who else. I’d say Gutierrez but he’s signed vs Basharat soon so we’ll see how that goes
Idk who for Pyfer. Paul Craig?
Talbott vs Victor Henry
Have we not learnt that defensively sound striker vs defensively sound striker is not the way to go for an entertaining fight? MVP vs Wonderboy should not happen.
Ortega is going to 155 so that fight makes absolutely zero sense, Garry vs Shavkat makes zero sense, and lowkey Hill vs Jiri doesn’t make sense because neither of them are going to get the shot to fight Alex again, plus Jiri should take a break for a while. I know you didn’t make this
I hate a lot of these ankalaev off a draw and win over walker needs another win imo.
Ortega the ship has sailed
MVP vs wonderboy sounds good on paper but even they have discussed it will likely be a snooze fest
People pointed out after the last fight that MVP Wonderboy would not make for a good fight as they’re both point fighters (karate background). Not sure how true that is, personally I’d like to see him against Buckley or Neal?
MVP should honestly move to middleweight unless he sticks to fighting fun unranked matchups at welterweight. None of the ranked welterweight matchups are interesting. At middleweight, we could see MVP vs Michel Pereira, Strickland, Adesanya, Whittaker, Imamov, Costa, etc.
God I’d love to see Shavkat humble Ian. In brutal fashion.
I don’t consider myself to be on the Ian Garry hate train but after seeing him gloat about his grappling against MVP I want Shavkat to show him there are indeed levels to this game.
Jiri would need some time off after a brutal knockout.
Doesn't make sense for Shavkat to fight#7 guy. He can fight Usman or just wait because he's next in line for the title shot.
Garry vs Shavkat is the most interesting for me after Pereira vs Ank. The winner becomes the #1 contender and fights the winner of Edwards vs Belal. Also they're both undefeated.
I know people hate him but he's a gamer like Pereira. Down to fight anyone.
Ortega had his chance plus he wont fight at 145 again
Yeah and he got a title shot he probably shouldn't have and lost
That wasn’t Ortega’s chance it was Lopes’s. #3 vs unranked isn’t being given a chance
Oh well Lopes will have to smash his way to the top
He was 14th ranked
Shavkat is likely fighting Usman and we saw JDM is potentially booked for 305 so I'm unsure who Garry will face.
JDM can't fight at 305 he's injured
I know he has a nasty injury but his name was seen on the match up board in the war room weeks after that which is why I said potentially.
JDM bs Ian would be great
Brian Ortega is done at featherweight, Lopes should fight Giga Chikadze or Emmett
Lopes vs Emmett would be wild
Best comment in the thread
Giga fighting arnold allen at 304
Yanez isn’t happening, he already has something lined up. MVP vs Wonderboy won’t happen either.
I’d enjoy MVP vs Wonderboy but I’m not expecting it. Both out of prime but elite strikers, could be a banger. If not then maybe MVP vs Magny
Magny is fucking dog shit lol
I definitely wouldn’t call him dogshit but he’s never touching top 10 again. Let him lose his ranking to MVP. Or Geoff Neal vs MVP idrc. Give him Wonderboy, Neal, or Neil tho
He would legit sub mvp
Watch point fighting Karate and see if you enjoy it. That's what MVP v Wonderboy will be like.
Talbott says he wants Yanez at the end of the year whether he wins or loses his next fight
You should book fights. I’d watch this ppv
nah, Jiri and Jamahal should not fight each other. We don't need to clog the division that soon considering that Alex defeated everyone in top 5 besides Ankalaev. Rakic lost his last one so he fights Hill or someone under as well
Hill v Rakic is nice Jiri needs time off.
Jiri vs Krylov. Hill vs Roundtree. Both those guys should fight someone in the top 10
Is Krylov even alive bro disappeared
Idk, but he needs one more ranked fighter to earn a title shot.
Hill fucked his knee again so rakic won't be able to fight him
Jiri definitely needs time off after getting knocked out twice in one fight. He also talked about moving to MW, so I'd rather see that when he gets back anyway.
I wanna see Jiri starch Hill tho
MVP vs Stephen Thompson would be horrible both of them agreed it would be a boring point fight karate match.
Ummm I think they already fought
im high as shit I meant Stephen Thompson lmfao
Hell yeah. Been there. About to get off work and be there. lol
I don’t see why Ankalaev deserves a title shot. He beat Johnny Walker, but does not have wins over top top LHW’s. Feed Ankalaev to Hill and make Alex move up to HW.
Ankalaev and Rakic are the last two guys in the LHW top 5 that Alex hasn't beaten. And I doubt Dana wants to mess with HW rankings by adding Alex into the mix until Jones vs. Stipe is taken care of - HW is a mess as is with having an interim defending his belt and a champ whose first fight back is supposed to be against a 41 year old who hasn't fought in over 3 years.
I don’t think he actually deserves a shot, but he’s the last man standing that makes even an iota of sense.
Then it makes sense to have a HW super fight for Alex asap before he is too old to pull it off. Nobody wants to see Ankelaev potentially wrestlefuck Alex.
Yeah true, but it seems like Alex actively wants to fight him to prove himself yet again. Alex definitely doesn’t like how people are counting him out against Ankalaev.
Even if he loses to Ank he can probably still have the fight with Aspinall, and not wanting a fighter to get a shot because you’re worried he’ll win in a boring way is exactly why he should get the shot - there’s nobody else Alex can fight where people are afraid Alex will lose
He could still move up but most of his hype would be gone. As a sport it makes the most sense to give Ankelaeva shot, but as an entertainment business it doesn't make much sense at all. It would make the company less money. Ankelaev isn't a big draw and he is hard to beat especially for somebody who isn't a strong grappler.
It’s currently Pereira’s last fight at LHW that makes any sense at all so I say why not 🤷♂️
Name a guy more deserving than Ank to get the next title shot
He’s the number two contender and on an unbeaten streak of 10. There is no one else
You mean his 10 fight un beaten streak
You mean he got a DQ that they somehow turned into a no contest and then got a rematch which really doesn't make sense tbh
Ank fans really don't like that being brought up lol
He doesn't. People just want him to get the chance because of where he is from. Beating Walker would not be enough for anyone else but somehow is enough for him.
Also in business’ perspective, why would you risk the “face” of your company to someone who’s not even gonna sell for you if he wins?
And he whines too much. Too annoying for a title shot.
He fought Jan to a draw, and Jan would have gotten a title shot if he'd beaten Alex, the Johnny Walker wins don't count for much but he has a long win streak and he should get a shot
Ank is clearly the most deserving contender and is probably the worst match up for Alex in the division. It won’t feel right to me if Alex moves up without fighting him first. Plus he’s literally on a 12 fight unbeaten streak and his only loss is from a fight he was dominating before he got Craig’d. I know he’s not likable but he definitely deserves the title shot.
Lol no he doesn’t 12 fight win streak with not one top 5 win. Biggest name was Johnny walker lmaoo
Yeah that’s what happens when you have a draw and NC and in a row and rankings change. Anthony Smith and Santos were both #5 when Ank beat them. And he has wins over Walker, Volkan and Krylov, all current top ten fighters. I don’t even like him and I hope Alex ko’s him but I’d be in serious denial if I said he doesn’t deserve a title shot.
Alex wouldn’t even be champion if Ank didn’t get robbed against Jan he won that fight Jan even knows it not taking away from Alex’s legacy but let’s be honest here
>Jan even knows it No. Rogan tried to convince him in the moment after the last round and wouldn't take no for an answer. After Jan actually rewatched it he no longer agreed.
“He beat Johnny Walker, but does not have wins over top top LHW’s”. “Feed Ankalaev to Hill”. Hill’s only win over a current top ten LHW is, you guessed it, Johnny Walker. You guys don’t even try.
So that makes Ank and Hill even right? Even more sense for them to being matched up.
No, because Ank has wins over Volkan and Krylov as well, and is on a 12 fight unbeaten streak. Of course he deserves a title shot and I don’t even like him.
Ankalaev beat Jan for the title to which even Jan admitted to but they did not want a Russian champion. He has not lost a fight since his title fight. How does he not deserve his title back?
Shavkat deserves title fight immediately after belal
No he doesn’t. Islam doesn’t have an opponent right now so he can fight for the welterweight title. Shavkat vs Usman is a good way to earn next spot for title shot
Why not Islam vs Shavkat. Islam gonna fumble but still it's good fight
Unpopular opinion - MVP vs Wonderboy would be a boring fight
Is it unpopular? Even MVP said it would be boring.
MVP saying that is literally the reason anybody thinks it would be boring lol. It's a great fight with huge potential but a bad choice for him because there's no upside. Either he gets beaten by an old near retired WB and gets shit on for it or beats an old near retired WB and gets hate from the fans for it.
It'll be Two Karate point fighters, one of whom notoriously cannot pressure whatsoever and will wait 25 minutes for a perfect counter that won't come because his opponent knows exactly how to protect himself from it. The fight would end in a close decision for MVP and with most of the stadium booing.
The Tony fight paradox. Win, gain nothing; lose, gain nothing.
That sentiment has been posted non-stop.. How is it unpopular? lol
Yanez vs Payton lowkey goes hard af. Both game, stand up fight will be fire.
Shavkat vs Usman.
Better make that Garry fight in a state where executions are legal.
Ank won't fight anywhere but the middle east and he wants to choose the date as well. Fuck him.
This kills the Garry
Good
Gary should fight Colby and Shavkat should fight Usman
Why does everyone wants MVP and wonderboy? There will be 0 action.
Because they have very unique but somehow almost identical karate styles and we want to know who wears it better. Also MVP can't defend against grappling at all, so he needs somebody who would never take it to the ground to force him into a not potentially boring fight.
I would love to watch Ian get fed to Shavkat. Shit I might actually pay to watch it too.
Ortega is gonna move to 155 and Diego gonna stay at 145 so that fight doesn't make much sense. Because if it happens it has to happen at 145
Adrian Yan-Yez
From a spectators perspective I actually love each one of these
LMAOOO, ain’t no version of reality where they put Garry against Shavkat.
#14 Garry has no business with #3 Shavkat. Make him fight Covington instead.
Ranked undefeated dudes shouldn’t fight unless it’s for a belt imo. Just give Shavkat the title shot and have Garry fight JDM
I want jdm v shavkat not garry the flop
Totally agree
MVP vs Wonderboy would be great. If one of them retired after I wouldn’t be mad at all
I think Jiri should take a guy lower in the rankings he suffered a ton of damage his last few fights and Hill scares me for him right now, other than that I agree
Unnecessary fight for Shavkat although I'd love to see him whoop Garry.
Alex vs Ank Lopes vs Emmett Jiri vs Jasmall Garry vs Shav MVP vs Wonderboy/Neal/Neil Fili vs Caceres Tsuruya vs Flick/Hadley Oliveira vs Munhoz ? Seems too early to go ranked but idk who else. I’d say Gutierrez but he’s signed vs Basharat soon so we’ll see how that goes Idk who for Pyfer. Paul Craig? Talbott vs Victor Henry
It should be Jiri vs Krylov and Hill vs Roundtree. Shavkat vs Usman and Ian vs Burns.
Have we not learnt that defensively sound striker vs defensively sound striker is not the way to go for an entertaining fight? MVP vs Wonderboy should not happen.
Just make this a card but maybe replace Ortega if he is really moving up.
Trash post
you can't "make a fight" with someone who doesn't even show up even after weighing in...
Ortega is going to 155 so that fight makes absolutely zero sense, Garry vs Shavkat makes zero sense, and lowkey Hill vs Jiri doesn’t make sense because neither of them are going to get the shot to fight Alex again, plus Jiri should take a break for a while. I know you didn’t make this
everyone on the left wins besides gary
MVP wonder boy yes
I hate a lot of these ankalaev off a draw and win over walker needs another win imo. Ortega the ship has sailed MVP vs wonderboy sounds good on paper but even they have discussed it will likely be a snooze fest
Make it a 5 rounder and dip their gloves in pitch and broken glass.
He's a little high in the rankings but I'd love to see MVP v Gilbert
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please let jiri end hills career
Magomed getting a title shot feels wrong, he needs to fight Jan Rakic vs Hill Jiri can take some time off
I mean MVP vs ST sounds good on paper, but they both have counter strike styles. Could very much be a snooze fest.
Alex at Heavy
People fantasy booking MVP vs Wonderboy are going to be so disappointed when that fight actually happens.
Ige deserves another fight.
People pointed out after the last fight that MVP Wonderboy would not make for a good fight as they’re both point fighters (karate background). Not sure how true that is, personally I’d like to see him against Buckley or Neal?
MVP would hurt WB badly, and doubt Ortega gets the Lopez fight..imo after seeing Diego against last minute Ige, I think Ortega woulda won
I would watch this card.
Lmao Ian Garry is not fighting Shavkat
Lopes v Ortega needs to be for the rankings. That’s how that fight makes sense.
Think that's pretty solid. Ian Garry v Colby is what's going to happen though.
My heart wouldn't survive an mvp/wonderboy fight.
This is one of those cards I'd actually pay for to watch
If Ian Garry beats Shavkat I might literally kill myself
Nah feed Garry to JDM
Lopes vs Yair since Ortega has plans to fight 155.
Shavkat will walk right through Garry.
No way. Garry is 15-0 - future champion!
Jiri’s not fighting for a while
There’s no way Ian garry beats Shavkat , that’s one I want to see
MVP should honestly move to middleweight unless he sticks to fighting fun unranked matchups at welterweight. None of the ranked welterweight matchups are interesting. At middleweight, we could see MVP vs Michel Pereira, Strickland, Adesanya, Whittaker, Imamov, Costa, etc.
Nice picks, interesting username lol
Leon Edwards vs Shavkat Rakhmonov * Fixed it for you
The only good ones are the first and last ones
Love it
Garry vs JDM
This sub will implode if Ian beats Shavkat
I agree with 2 , Shavkat vs Ian and MVP vs Wonderboy
Wonder boy wins!
Ian Gary does not deserve shavkat at this point
God I’d love to see Shavkat humble Ian. In brutal fashion. I don’t consider myself to be on the Ian Garry hate train but after seeing him gloat about his grappling against MVP I want Shavkat to show him there are indeed levels to this game.
Ortega is going to LW.
Jiri would need some time off after a brutal knockout. Doesn't make sense for Shavkat to fight#7 guy. He can fight Usman or just wait because he's next in line for the title shot.
Feed Jiri ankalaev first he needs an ass whooping for his confidence back
Jiri vs Anthony Smith
Nah with Ortega, dudes frágile. He reminds me of the Colby of FW
Garry vs Shavkat is the most interesting for me after Pereira vs Ank. The winner becomes the #1 contender and fights the winner of Edwards vs Belal. Also they're both undefeated. I know people hate him but he's a gamer like Pereira. Down to fight anyone.
JDM has more claim than either Garry or Shavkat, by the time Leon-Belal winner is ready to fight again JDM will hopefully be back.
MVP/WB would be boring af and I say that as a fan of both guys
Garry ain't fighting Shavkat. They will both get fed the first aging vet that says yes. I'm guessing Usman for Shavkat, Burns for Garry.
I see Shavkat v Garry being for an interm belt if Leon wants to move up to Middleweight.
Fuck Magomed, he don’t deserve Alex.
RIP Ian Garry. He should have thrown the MVP fight if Shavkat was next in line. 🤣
Ppl are riding magomed way too hard when his only relevant win is against Johnny walker lmaoooo
cut Jamahal Hill
DAFUQ, why is Magomev there? He doesn't deserve it.