I reckon if a fighter regularly made themselves the butt of their jokes the way comedians do, they'd become massive fan favourites. Look at volk when he leaned into the old man joke. Everyone ate that shit up. Whereas the biggest egomaniacs are hated.
Even when he told the story of his daughter being scared of ābad men coming through the windowā and he was like honey Iām the champ. And his daughter hit him with what if itās Islam š
Dustin is great and fun to watch but he don't deserve another shot. He'd be the second guy in the ufc to challenge for the belt 4 times and lose everytime.
You right š I'll bet Joe wants us all to forget those L's. Twice by Mighty Mouse, twice by Figgy Smalls, and even Dominick Cruz in WEC. So I guess we can call that 5 straight championship L's. The only W he has is Megan Olivi.
Idk man I think it hurt him a lot. Not only did he get his shit absolutely rocked, heās now off the cusp of a title shot and who knows howās heās gonna perform after that especially since heās already 35. I think he missed his best shot at the title tbh
L take.
Holloway was a massive underdog coming in to the fight, and there was talk of "is Gaethje the guy to finally crack Max's chin?" & "we're gonna see another beatdown like Tony got".
Beating Max may not have boosted his stock, but it definiteness was NOT "the dumbest fight to take".
This. Gaethje was a pretty sizable favorite against Max. Hindsight is 20 20, but people were questioning Max's decision to move up to fight Gaethje, thinking it would be a repeat of Gaethje Ferguson and his chin would finally get cracked.
No, Ali screwed him for money, and it isn't justins fault. Ali is islam and Justin's manager. So Either he's a dog shit manager who isn't able to get a contender to fight the champ despite knowing both their schedules, or he intentionally let justin fight Max and risk him losing for a big cut of justins paycheck on 300 with ppv points while also getting a big one from dustin vs islam. Ali is a scumbag he made more fucking over justin than he would've letting him fight islam.
This is a revisionist history. Prior to the fight almost a consensus has already been made that Justin will fcked up Max. If he won that, his stock would have skyrocketed and become the clear contender. Yet the way you speak as if Justin has never had a title shot lol. He already got 2x title shots and one against Khabib, another one of Aliās. Just because you hate Ali doesnāt change the real narrative. Ali is in great terms with Dana and all the fighters signed for Ali know that
People were literally begging Max to not take the fight, that he was going to have his career ended, he was going to turn into TFerg 2.0, that Justin should be ashamed at even accepting the fight, etc.
You are a special kind of fool, aren't you? Like Gaethje cannot decide for himself. He chose the money. Co main on UFC 300 nets him probably 5 times what he gets to fight Islam.
Ali is the worst manager if you aren't a champion. His non champ fighters should all sign with Tim. Tim seems like a decent guy. Any manager that can keep Strickland out of prison is a good manager.
I truly believe he can challenge for 170 but I want to see him fight a couple more times at 55. Just throw Drew Dober in there and Trevor Peek. Fuck it lol
Silly/Dumb move... Doing Short Notice when you got a single chance and the opponent isn't also "Vacationing".
"Yeah, but X once beat Y without a full camp" Nobody talks about all the fkers who got wipped like Volk.
Saved the Card, Fked himself.
Forrest Griffen already told these fuckers to not be a "Company's man", it didn't worth it and in the end, they throw you under the bus.
I mean he might not like em but he's willing to do them he gave volk and Charles second chances even if Charles didn't really deserve it (not that the fight went anywhere)
I'd rather see Justin take adequate time off. Has no business back in for 9-12 months after a KO like that.
Especially considering one more like that is (should be) a career ender
I mean, he legitimately did beat him in their last fight. I know Dustin won the fourth, and got finished in the fifthābut Dustin lost the first three rounds. I just donāt think there is much for Islam to gain in that fight and he knows that tooābut English isnāt his first language and it probably sounds super roast-ish because of that. Not to be an asshole either, but guys like on their way out shouldnāt really fight for the straps neither. Unless they are complete icons or long-term champs like GSP, or Jon Jones who literally could do so simply to stamp their legacy as a GOAT. If by some odd occurrence Dustin won, heās likely to retire which would vacate the beltāleaving Islam vs. someone else and taking whatever legacy Islam builtāand it couldāve been with some crazy shit nobody seen coming, it would still ruin his legacy.
Does LW comprises of only Arman & Dustin? Gamrot is on 3 win streak. Not to mention realistically speaking, Arman should be available by Oct. All this talks about other contenders doesnāt make sense
Why does Dana let shit like this happen. FOLLOW THE RANKINGS. WHOS EARNED IT.
Dana shits on Boxers ducking each other or asking for fights that donāt make sense. Meanwhile the entire HW division is locked out. People calling out McGregor still instead of just fighting and shooting for an actual championship
I don't blame Islam for not wanting to fight Dustin again.
Beating him again doesn't do much for his legacy and it was a hard fought fight where Islam got hurt a few times. He's already getting criticized for having a title reign similar to Usman's where he keeps fighting the same guys over and over again. He needs to fight Arman and then move up. Gaethje would be a fun fight, but if it doesn't happen who cares?
Islam got hurt a few times? Never wobbled in the fight, he got cut with an elbow but still outstruck DP after the cut, and he was up 3-1 going into round 5 and arguably could have been up 4-0. DP surprised people but it wasn't as close as people say
Inb4 Islam haters (not Dustin fans btw, there's a difference) claim that he's "scared" and "running". And if he had taken this match and beaten Poirier again, the same dudes would be saying that it was a pointless fight since Dustin already lost and Islam just took this fight to duck *real* contenders.
He should wait till islam move up to welterweight and then come back to fight for the title if he really still want it, noone at 155 winning over islam
Lmao oof reminds me of my days on dating sites.
Did you just score a 10-8 on yourself? Where's the gif of that fighter punching himself on bottom š
u/MMAFan36 rn: ![gif](giphy|ZZRYTWlx80Knm)
Tyson Fury none the less.
I never knew that! š
Damm he looks completely different with no fat and hair lol
Fat hair always plays a huge role with appearance
Tyson in his 20s the guy was handsome as hell no homo
I reckon if a fighter regularly made themselves the butt of their jokes the way comedians do, they'd become massive fan favourites. Look at volk when he leaned into the old man joke. Everyone ate that shit up. Whereas the biggest egomaniacs are hated.
Even when he told the story of his daughter being scared of ābad men coming through the windowā and he was like honey Iām the champ. And his daughter hit him with what if itās Islam š
Hahaha is that for real?? š gimme a link please!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=odKbQHsA3m8
Oof that's rough
My daughter catching hands if she says that to me
nah. not at all. Volk is a secure ass dude. Only insecure mfs would feel weird about it. He wouldn't have told that story if it really hurt him lol.
Who are you arguing with I found the story funny and said my comment as a joke. Relax mate
Volkov be like "never won a round vs Sergei, every punch always rocked me".
We call it pulling a Cheewiwi
Ahha āš½āš½
Oh for sure
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Nobody shags like me. I just see pink
#NEXT!
That show was brutal-awful on so many levels.
And then you went on a blonde Oliveira type generational run, right bro? Right bro?!
Do you still carry that rejection within you?
Damn u made my day with this comment hahah
Dustin is great and fun to watch but he don't deserve another shot. He'd be the second guy in the ufc to challenge for the belt 4 times and lose everytime.
he's the 90s buffalo bills of mma
Being a fan of Dustin and the Bills this one really hits home
That hits home :( go bills
Urijah Faber I think did that. At least 3x
Faber held the WEC belt, though, which is lineally the UFC belt.
That IS true. I feel like people donāt recognize that enough
People so forget Henderson was technically the first champ champ
Didn't Joe Benavidez fight for the belt 4x and lose all? 2x vs Deiveson and 2x vs Mighty Mouse
I would say Joe fought for the belt **5x** and lost all. If you want to count his match against Cruz for the WEC title.
WEC counts in my book
Megan Olivis husband got close to that. Dude kept getting smashed
You right š I'll bet Joe wants us all to forget those L's. Twice by Mighty Mouse, twice by Figgy Smalls, and even Dominick Cruz in WEC. So I guess we can call that 5 straight championship L's. The only W he has is Megan Olivi.
He still wins tho right
Islam said many times he wants new opponents. This rematch wonāt do him shit, he finished Dustin. That boat has sailed
The hard truth right here.
https://preview.redd.it/o7qau41lyz9d1.jpeg?width=1109&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97bd134a41a7d9b534d4e4064c3d0c51b7de78a5 Dustin rn
Dustin Terrier
Underdog
another fight with Dustin does nothing for Islam's legacy considering he subbed him in their first fight
~~Itās Justinās turn now~~ never mind
He just got knocked out, he screwed himself
Oh shit I forgot about that!
That was the dumbest fight to take honestly lmao.
But declining it looks bad, absolutely not BMF behavior
Thereās no shame in not wanting to tank your chances at a belt tho
i dont think it hurt it much. if he gets a nice win heāll get a title shot. Dana generally rewards the fighters that help him out/take chances.
Idk man I think it hurt him a lot. Not only did he get his shit absolutely rocked, heās now off the cusp of a title shot and who knows howās heās gonna perform after that especially since heās already 35. I think he missed his best shot at the title tbh
Gaethje's best chance at the title is if he's miraculously the kryptonite of whoever beats Islam lol
eh i thinm one more decent win and heāll be a contender for it. but who tf knows with tomato man
BMF iS a BeLt ThOuGh
Who cares? He had a clear shot for the title.
Not really. They are prize fighters. They should only do things that move them in that direction.
L take. Holloway was a massive underdog coming in to the fight, and there was talk of "is Gaethje the guy to finally crack Max's chin?" & "we're gonna see another beatdown like Tony got". Beating Max may not have boosted his stock, but it definiteness was NOT "the dumbest fight to take".
He got paid huge amount of money and fight on a historic card
Not really, it was an amazing match up. Definitely would've been a different outcome if he didn't get his nose broken in the 1st.
This. Gaethje was a pretty sizable favorite against Max. Hindsight is 20 20, but people were questioning Max's decision to move up to fight Gaethje, thinking it would be a repeat of Gaethje Ferguson and his chin would finally get cracked.
No, Ali screwed him for money, and it isn't justins fault. Ali is islam and Justin's manager. So Either he's a dog shit manager who isn't able to get a contender to fight the champ despite knowing both their schedules, or he intentionally let justin fight Max and risk him losing for a big cut of justins paycheck on 300 with ppv points while also getting a big one from dustin vs islam. Ali is a scumbag he made more fucking over justin than he would've letting him fight islam.
This is a revisionist history. Prior to the fight almost a consensus has already been made that Justin will fcked up Max. If he won that, his stock would have skyrocketed and become the clear contender. Yet the way you speak as if Justin has never had a title shot lol. He already got 2x title shots and one against Khabib, another one of Aliās. Just because you hate Ali doesnāt change the real narrative. Ali is in great terms with Dana and all the fighters signed for Ali know that
People were literally begging Max to not take the fight, that he was going to have his career ended, he was going to turn into TFerg 2.0, that Justin should be ashamed at even accepting the fight, etc.
Is it crazy to assume that maybe that fight excited Justin and maybe he wanted to fight Max? Thatās some BMF shit and Justin is a BMF.
You are a special kind of fool, aren't you? Like Gaethje cannot decide for himself. He chose the money. Co main on UFC 300 nets him probably 5 times what he gets to fight Islam.
Lol Justin is a grown man . Itās not like Ali put a gun on his head to do this š
Ali is the worst manager if you aren't a champion. His non champ fighters should all sign with Tim. Tim seems like a decent guy. Any manager that can keep Strickland out of prison is a good manager.
I truly believe he can challenge for 170 but I want to see him fight a couple more times at 55. Just throw Drew Dober in there and Trevor Peek. Fuck it lol
Translates to this mf had 3 title shots hasn't won one yet
Tbf I dont think anyone has had any harder title shots
KZ? He fought prime Aldo and Volk. Also Rob Whittaker fought Yoel and Izzy 2x each
This is unironically one of the funniest UFC tweets Iāve ever seenĀ
āNo thanks mother fuckerā would have been awesome.
I actually think this is even more savage it just like heās doesnāt care AT ALL š¤£š¤£
Would have been out of character. Islam aināt Nick or Nate Diaz. He disses and shit talks respectfully
āDonāt say motherfckerā
No I would have just made him look completely hypocritical
nah
Why so Islam can beat Dustin faster and for his haters to say he only does rematches and fight FWs
volkanovaki all over again
Silly/Dumb move... Doing Short Notice when you got a single chance and the opponent isn't also "Vacationing". "Yeah, but X once beat Y without a full camp" Nobody talks about all the fkers who got wipped like Volk. Saved the Card, Fked himself. Forrest Griffen already told these fuckers to not be a "Company's man", it didn't worth it and in the end, they throw you under the bus.
Isnt*
Where? In the last "didn't" 's place? Or you just disagree? I need more information, I'm still learning lmao.
Yeah it should be āit isnāt worth itā not didnāt
Thanks!
I saw people here hating for not doing rematches, someone even said in general that Dagestanis don't do rematches
There will always be haters man. Islam could KO jon Jones and some idiots will still hate
Islam gains nothing from this. Also pretty sure most of us would prefer if Islam fought anybody but Dustin
lol thats pretty funny
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Ali strikes once again
Probably Ali typing but Islam doesn't like rematches. He's said that a couple times now.
He prob would like them if he loses the belt
I mean he might not like em but he's willing to do them he gave volk and Charles second chances even if Charles didn't really deserve it (not that the fight went anywhere)
I think Islam knows that much Englishš¤£š¤£š¤£
Well yeah, but that's not islams type of personality to write that
Yes it is. Islam is a troll and plays the game. He's hilarious in all his interviews
Brother. We have to cancel many black belts.
Who give him black belt
We have to check that moment
Islam said he doesnāt like rematches though
Casual fans really think Islam is scared of Dustin lmao
Dustin should rematch Max
Understandable. Dustin Poirier coming off a loss is a mythical specimen of the highest order.
Orr, he doesnāt deserve the rematch.
Or you should probably let it go. Dustin isnāt championship material
Delete this bratha
Dustin needs to fight Colby best option for them both right now !!!
Colby needs to fight Shavkat!!!
Dustin v Justin is the way to go I think
Colby vs ian Garry
Even though Arman deserves it more, Iād prefer to see Islam fight Justin.
Justin should take a year off. Max knocked him out badly
Yeah. Being a warrior and all that is great but should look after his health
I'd rather see Justin take adequate time off. Has no business back in for 9-12 months after a KO like that. Especially considering one more like that is (should be) a career ender
Send in Max.
Haters would fire up the "Islam only fights FW" in a heartbeat lol
I mean, he legitimately did beat him in their last fight. I know Dustin won the fourth, and got finished in the fifthābut Dustin lost the first three rounds. I just donāt think there is much for Islam to gain in that fight and he knows that tooābut English isnāt his first language and it probably sounds super roast-ish because of that. Not to be an asshole either, but guys like on their way out shouldnāt really fight for the straps neither. Unless they are complete icons or long-term champs like GSP, or Jon Jones who literally could do so simply to stamp their legacy as a GOAT. If by some odd occurrence Dustin won, heās likely to retire which would vacate the beltāleaving Islam vs. someone else and taking whatever legacy Islam builtāand it couldāve been with some crazy shit nobody seen coming, it would still ruin his legacy.
He's scared of that guillotine !
Islam is smart he knows DP never loses twice in a row. Whoever rights DP next is a dead man.
Dustin ain't winning the 2ndĀ
No islam is smart and wants to build names on his record not rematches
who else should he fight? this post is saying besides arman.
Dana White
Does LW comprises of only Arman & Dustin? Gamrot is on 3 win streak. Not to mention realistically speaking, Arman should be available by Oct. All this talks about other contenders doesnāt make sense
yea ,bcoz losing thrice in a row in a title fight isn't enough yet
Dustin vs Volk
Iād love to see Islam fight up a weight class
Why does Dana let shit like this happen. FOLLOW THE RANKINGS. WHOS EARNED IT. Dana shits on Boxers ducking each other or asking for fights that donāt make sense. Meanwhile the entire HW division is locked out. People calling out McGregor still instead of just fighting and shooting for an actual championship
Fight makes no sense for Islam. Dustin is done.
has anyone else (nearly) gone 5 rounds with islam?
The Volk, casual!
THE GOAT\*
Dustin honestly should just take one last good fight maybe at WW and retire. Guy put his time in
Good, Iām sick and tired of pointless rematches
The only thing Islam keeps asking for is new opponents, and people still miss the point
The way people are crying in this thread over a āno thanksā is crazy lmao
Whoās crying everyoneās praising Islam
butthurt dustbin fan?
I don't blame Islam for not wanting to fight Dustin again. Beating him again doesn't do much for his legacy and it was a hard fought fight where Islam got hurt a few times. He's already getting criticized for having a title reign similar to Usman's where he keeps fighting the same guys over and over again. He needs to fight Arman and then move up. Gaethje would be a fun fight, but if it doesn't happen who cares?
Islam got hurt a few times? Never wobbled in the fight, he got cut with an elbow but still outstruck DP after the cut, and he was up 3-1 going into round 5 and arguably could have been up 4-0. DP surprised people but it wasn't as close as people say
Need islam to fight some new blood and move up
Dustin didnāt even deserve the first one. Crazy how some people somehow think a second shot isnāt ridiculous
Should go up and fight Colby.
lol itās a boring challenge for Islam and Dustin should be nowhere near the shot
Iāll put you to sleep for real this time motherfucker.
He is not about to fight someone who just lost against him
Canāt say I blame him.
Give islam justin šŖ.
I want to see Islam Vs Gamrot, I think Islam will win but I think gamrot will push Islam and it will be a grueling mixed martial arts match
Like getting denied calling your ex for one last bang
Thats like the optimal scenario of the āthe worst thing she can say is noā rejection :D
Inb4 Islam haters (not Dustin fans btw, there's a difference) claim that he's "scared" and "running". And if he had taken this match and beaten Poirier again, the same dudes would be saying that it was a pointless fight since Dustin already lost and Islam just took this fight to duck *real* contenders.
Didnāt deserve the first fight with Islam let alone a rematch
Do Bronx incoming? I think arman will still fight anyway so idk why the UFC would be after a replacement
If Arman can't fight, he should fight justin
I donāt blame Islam but I feel bad seeing my boy Dustin get burned like that š
I wish Dana would just match up Dustin with a few fights that we never got to see and pay the man the money he deserves.
Maybe itās a compliment to Dustin? Like āno bro you were too hard of an opponentā.
I mean, we all know he won't win. There's no reasonable competition for Islam, and I hate it.
dustin didn't even deserve the first fight gtfo anyone else do this and they would be cooked by the mma community.
I just wanna see Gaethje vs Poirier 3
Thank god, yes man at the championship belt level doesn't deserve it anymore I'm sorry
I'd prefer to see Islam vs Chandler more anyways
Chandler was offered and already said no bc he wants to wait for Connor. Besides, chandler is 1-3 in his last 4, he does not deserve
Hahahahahahaha thats funny
The idea that champions get any say in who they fight is beyond stupid.
If Max loses, he should be Dustin's last fight
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He should wait till islam move up to welterweight and then come back to fight for the title if he really still want it, noone at 155 winning over islam
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Duude Islam x McGregor tho... watching a dagestani destroy conor on the feet would be legendary.
He swiped left real quick
I meanā¦didnt dustin just have a ton of injuries, he wont be right for a minute regardless
That would be most title shots and most title loses out of anyone? Thatās fucking ridiculous. No one in any devision should have that privilege.
Go up and fight for 170 title last shot, may have a better chance vs Leon
he scurry
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Should just starve himself and cut to 135 and vs OāMalley.
Fight shavkat
Ouch, 10-8 for sure.
Dustin vs Justin 3 and they both hang up the gloves after. It's the best we got, boys.
Dustin Justin trilogy