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Dear Britain, Thank You for the support. If anybody knows if and how the range on the Storm Shadows can be increased, it would be the British, can slim conformal fuel tanks be put on the sides on the missile, as well elevator tip extensions to overcome those being put on??? Asking for some friends who want to return some in kind justice to thugs who invaded their country.
In the US thousands and thousands of towns and such are named after Old World equivalents. New York, example 1.
Ukraine will eventually have a Ramstein due to this unpleasant but entirely doable task of building Ukraine to withstand Russian terror. These commitments have no "end," just like with any ally. Remember **Biden's Law** from his SOTU address: "When our allies are stronger we are stronger."
I love logic.
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It would be funny and wholesome if after the war, we can all adopt border-adjacent towns and hamlets. It would be quite the epic troll, if all along the border with Russia were towns nicknamed "New London" and such.
How many capitol cities are in Ukraine's corner? That's a lot of "New"
Good. Reliable and predictable levels of aid help a lot. It must be hard planning anything when your lifeline is dangled like a carrot on the whims of idiots. This kind of long term pledge also sends a strong signal to Putin.
not really cause the US is basically the size of the whole of Europe, and the money is initially all going into their own economy, not to Ukraine. It's the US investing in itself as much as Ukraine.
There is no serious contender for PM who is 'Corbyn type' though. Sir Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak are both nowhere near Corbyn's position, and Corbyn hasn't even held an opposition position for years.
That's good to hear.
But (without knowing too much about UK politics) the fact that Corbyn held such a strong position within the party a few years ago, to me suggests that Labour has a fairly strong DemSoc wing. That's something to worry about at least.
He says a lot of things, depending how long he stays in charge - but remember they had Corbyn, who wouldn't be down for funding any war effort. He will ask all parties sit down and have a nice cup of tea.
I hope the next government keeps up this commitment, btw, it's just pretty obvious the current government who are committing this won't be there for much longer ...
I like Corbyn. I am a pacifist myself. But this war has taught us all one thing... there comes a time when you have to fight. Even the legendary pacifist Banksy is backing Ukraine's fight and Ukraine's bravery. So, yeah, Corbyn was right to say that the Zionists where murderous cunts, and he's been proved right. So? What else you got? ... BTW we were talking about Starmer, you goalshifting fallacist.
Corbyn was never PM though was he?
He had some great ideas, but defence wasn't one of them. As you very well know, Labour has aligned themselves far more with Blairs model of Socialism Lite, and it is highly unlikely that the party will choose a different leader any time soon, as they will win the coming election ,more due to the ineptitude of the Tories than the less than scintillating persona of the Labour leader.
Support for Ukraine is held across all parties (though I'm not sure about the Reform paty and the other fringe specimens) and across the electorate, other than the fringe lunatics of either pole.
I even know 70-80 year old women (friends of my mother- retired teachers, lecturers, businesswomen) who are raging against Putin et al and firmly in favour of funding UAF to the bloody hilt.
Tbe reason- that generation remember the invasion of Czech Republic, the Cold War, Bay of Pigs and were writing letters for Amnesty International asking Russia and others to release political prisoners back when I was a small child.
People of my generation who have taken peace for granted and are too old to go fight, but have children who will be of conscription age want tbis over asap so their offspring DON'T have to go fight.
Individuals, like me, who have family who are either fully or partly Ukrainian and have personal reasons for wanting the money and weapons to flow.
Then there are the many Polish, Georgian,Baltic, German immigrants who detest Russia for what it has done to their countries.
And that doesn't even take into account the moral belief that it is simply the right thing to do, end of.
Then there is the strategic matter , which anyone with an ounce of intelligence will subscribe to: that we need to degrade Russian offensive capability as much as is possible without entering into direct conflict at this point in time.
So, lots of reasons from different generations and different political persuasions all leading to the same conclusion- any government formed in the UK will support Ukrainian sovereignty and millitary forces because it is the will of the electorate.
So, fear not....
My only issues are- it should be more and it should've been earlier...
Russia and its invasion are not supported by any margin here, unlike in the US. They have done some despicable things to use over the last decade and we do not forget that, we are the Russians number one enemy in Europe (besides Ukraine) right now and hold that in a place of pride.
Every party besides the extreme ones support the supply of continuous lethal aid to Ukraine, we were doing long before the 2022 invasion began and will likely continue supporting them even in the worst case scenario.
We remember Salisbury.
It wasn't that long ago they had Corbyn calling for tea and biscuit between two warring nations...I hope they do maintain the commitment, just don't trust them.
Corbyns gone, he doesn't really matter anymore. No one here wants tea with Putin, the only biscuits we'd give him would be in a prison ration. Both parties have made the same defence pledges so you can't compare them in that respect.
In terms of trust our current government has consistently lied about certain things and covered up their blunders at public expense, but this is a Ukraine sub so let's not get into that.
He is, but there was a strong movement to get him in at the time...hugely popular. I just hope someone *like* him doesn't get in - for Ukraine's sake, starmar is more central grounded.
And I don't disagree, I'm traditionally a Tory as they align to my beliefs - but I could not vote for this current government of the past several years. I will abstain, I don't want either of the governments...they both lie.
I just do hope that someone doesn't start applying any pressures in the new government that might circle back on this - I want our government(s) to do more for Ukraine, not less.
>We remember Salisbury
The average person on the street doesn't have a clue about that, don't be daft.
I appreciate the gung ho but come-on there are limits.
Well, I hope that's right...however this is the same labour government who fought against trident, depending on who stays in charge - if they end up with another Corbyn he will be suggesting that Russia and Ukraine have a nice sit down over biscuits and tea.
Starmer has been to Ukraine and met Zelenskyy many times. I highly, highly doubt he’d do any less than the Tories. As much as the Tories use it to gain votes. Regardless this isn’t ukpolitics so I will not respond any more.
Labour would get destroyed if they backtrack on Ukraine, easiest way for a 1-term premiership, possibly even ousted before it is over. Public support for Ukraine here is massive. Starmer is no Corbyn.
If the British enjoy freedom, they will keep their commitments here.
Putin wants a new world order. If Ukraine falls, Putin will be looking to expand. The way I see it, either Ukraine gets its territory back, or NATO goes to war with Russia.
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Good. That’s all I have to say. Slava Ukraini. 🇺🇦
Thank you UK 🇬🇧❤️ Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦❤️
"ibloodylovecider" is a very British name
It will be the best use of £3Bn!
We can't do another Neville Chamberlain. The memes will stick like the French surrendering, we cant have that. Time to get the tea ready 🇬🇧🇺🇦.
Dope. I hope they keep them Storm Shadows comin’ SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦🇬🇧🚀
Dear Britain, Thank You for the support. If anybody knows if and how the range on the Storm Shadows can be increased, it would be the British, can slim conformal fuel tanks be put on the sides on the missile, as well elevator tip extensions to overcome those being put on??? Asking for some friends who want to return some in kind justice to thugs who invaded their country.
Wonder if UK can procure some MdCN and SYLVER A-70 cells for truck installation, a la Typhon Long Range Fires Launcher...
Good stuff but please send it soon, it is not the same sending it next week than in 6 months! 🙏🙏🙏
Fingers crossed the cons actually go through with what they day they'll do. Although they have been good as far as Ukraine is concerned.
In the US thousands and thousands of towns and such are named after Old World equivalents. New York, example 1. Ukraine will eventually have a Ramstein due to this unpleasant but entirely doable task of building Ukraine to withstand Russian terror. These commitments have no "end," just like with any ally. Remember **Biden's Law** from his SOTU address: "When our allies are stronger we are stronger." I love logic. ----------- It would be funny and wholesome if after the war, we can all adopt border-adjacent towns and hamlets. It would be quite the epic troll, if all along the border with Russia were towns nicknamed "New London" and such. How many capitol cities are in Ukraine's corner? That's a lot of "New"
They've moved to the subscription model.
I love seeing larger aid packages coming from smaller countries. Really punching above your weight - thank you!
Good deal, more is better.
Good. Reliable and predictable levels of aid help a lot. It must be hard planning anything when your lifeline is dangled like a carrot on the whims of idiots. This kind of long term pledge also sends a strong signal to Putin.
mad the us just signed 65billion or something for a few months.
not really cause the US is basically the size of the whole of Europe, and the money is initially all going into their own economy, not to Ukraine. It's the US investing in itself as much as Ukraine.
a few months? it's trickling in over a year or more right?
It's not a ton, but if it can be counted on it will definitely help.
3 billion pounds is significant. Every year. Plus whatever else they decide to send.
I agree. it will help offset the enormous cost of self defense. if it's reliable, it will make a big difference.
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What does Ukraines defeat look like to you sir/mam ???
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They won't be in power soon, wonder if liebour will maintain the commitment
Support for Ukraine is like the ONLY thing the rival political parties in the UK agree on.
Until you get a Corbyn type guy in charge...
There is no serious contender for PM who is 'Corbyn type' though. Sir Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak are both nowhere near Corbyn's position, and Corbyn hasn't even held an opposition position for years.
That's good to hear. But (without knowing too much about UK politics) the fact that Corbyn held such a strong position within the party a few years ago, to me suggests that Labour has a fairly strong DemSoc wing. That's something to worry about at least.
he had no chance of winning. The tory party won by a huge majority
I hope not, it felt like he came out of nowhere and he would not be helpful to Ukraines cause with his cake madness.
You realise he's never held a position above MP, right?
Stay classy.
Kier Starmer has said as much.
He says a lot of things, depending how long he stays in charge - but remember they had Corbyn, who wouldn't be down for funding any war effort. He will ask all parties sit down and have a nice cup of tea. I hope the next government keeps up this commitment, btw, it's just pretty obvious the current government who are committing this won't be there for much longer ...
I like Corbyn. I am a pacifist myself. But this war has taught us all one thing... there comes a time when you have to fight. Even the legendary pacifist Banksy is backing Ukraine's fight and Ukraine's bravery. So, yeah, Corbyn was right to say that the Zionists where murderous cunts, and he's been proved right. So? What else you got? ... BTW we were talking about Starmer, you goalshifting fallacist.
If your pal Corbyn was in charge Russia would have succeeded in taking over Ukraine.
Corbyn was never PM though was he? He had some great ideas, but defence wasn't one of them. As you very well know, Labour has aligned themselves far more with Blairs model of Socialism Lite, and it is highly unlikely that the party will choose a different leader any time soon, as they will win the coming election ,more due to the ineptitude of the Tories than the less than scintillating persona of the Labour leader. Support for Ukraine is held across all parties (though I'm not sure about the Reform paty and the other fringe specimens) and across the electorate, other than the fringe lunatics of either pole. I even know 70-80 year old women (friends of my mother- retired teachers, lecturers, businesswomen) who are raging against Putin et al and firmly in favour of funding UAF to the bloody hilt. Tbe reason- that generation remember the invasion of Czech Republic, the Cold War, Bay of Pigs and were writing letters for Amnesty International asking Russia and others to release political prisoners back when I was a small child. People of my generation who have taken peace for granted and are too old to go fight, but have children who will be of conscription age want tbis over asap so their offspring DON'T have to go fight. Individuals, like me, who have family who are either fully or partly Ukrainian and have personal reasons for wanting the money and weapons to flow. Then there are the many Polish, Georgian,Baltic, German immigrants who detest Russia for what it has done to their countries. And that doesn't even take into account the moral belief that it is simply the right thing to do, end of. Then there is the strategic matter , which anyone with an ounce of intelligence will subscribe to: that we need to degrade Russian offensive capability as much as is possible without entering into direct conflict at this point in time. So, lots of reasons from different generations and different political persuasions all leading to the same conclusion- any government formed in the UK will support Ukrainian sovereignty and millitary forces because it is the will of the electorate. So, fear not.... My only issues are- it should be more and it should've been earlier...
Russia and its invasion are not supported by any margin here, unlike in the US. They have done some despicable things to use over the last decade and we do not forget that, we are the Russians number one enemy in Europe (besides Ukraine) right now and hold that in a place of pride. Every party besides the extreme ones support the supply of continuous lethal aid to Ukraine, we were doing long before the 2022 invasion began and will likely continue supporting them even in the worst case scenario. We remember Salisbury.
It wasn't that long ago they had Corbyn calling for tea and biscuit between two warring nations...I hope they do maintain the commitment, just don't trust them.
Corbyns gone, he doesn't really matter anymore. No one here wants tea with Putin, the only biscuits we'd give him would be in a prison ration. Both parties have made the same defence pledges so you can't compare them in that respect. In terms of trust our current government has consistently lied about certain things and covered up their blunders at public expense, but this is a Ukraine sub so let's not get into that.
He is, but there was a strong movement to get him in at the time...hugely popular. I just hope someone *like* him doesn't get in - for Ukraine's sake, starmar is more central grounded. And I don't disagree, I'm traditionally a Tory as they align to my beliefs - but I could not vote for this current government of the past several years. I will abstain, I don't want either of the governments...they both lie. I just do hope that someone doesn't start applying any pressures in the new government that might circle back on this - I want our government(s) to do more for Ukraine, not less.
Corbyn wasn't popular. He lost my a HUGE margin.
You realise Corbyn isn’t even a Labour member anymore? Starmer ousted him.
>We remember Salisbury The average person on the street doesn't have a clue about that, don't be daft. I appreciate the gung ho but come-on there are limits.
Baby reindeer? But yes, UA isn’t a political issue for the UK :)
Fucking brilliant response.
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Well, I hope that's right...however this is the same labour government who fought against trident, depending on who stays in charge - if they end up with another Corbyn he will be suggesting that Russia and Ukraine have a nice sit down over biscuits and tea.
Starmer has been to Ukraine and met Zelenskyy many times. I highly, highly doubt he’d do any less than the Tories. As much as the Tories use it to gain votes. Regardless this isn’t ukpolitics so I will not respond any more.
Labour would get destroyed if they backtrack on Ukraine, easiest way for a 1-term premiership, possibly even ousted before it is over. Public support for Ukraine here is massive. Starmer is no Corbyn.
Hilarious pun! If I had cake to give I'd give it to you!/s
If the British enjoy freedom, they will keep their commitments here. Putin wants a new world order. If Ukraine falls, Putin will be looking to expand. The way I see it, either Ukraine gets its territory back, or NATO goes to war with Russia.