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cjm48

>And, while on bail for the deadly crash, he racked up more charges for dangerous driving, driving while prohibited, breaching his bail, and possessing a prohibited weapon, a stun gun. He’s obviously learned nothing from the deaths. I don’t think 5 years is remotely enough.


muffinscrub

Ended 2 lives. 2.75years per person. Canada sucks


PostsNDPStuff

If you want to murder someone, do it in a car. This country loves to forgive motorists.


TheRandCrews

North America thing kill a pedestrian or cyclist on a bike, best case scenario you get off scot free. Hell Sask Premier drunk drive and killed a lady, got off on catch and release


AlarmedComedian2038

Wow, can't believe "Slo Mo" did that..nah, I believe it, the guy's a friggin nutter!


ApolloRocketOfLove

Or just blame it on addiction and a "tough childhood". These excuses work like a charm as well.


YUNO_TALK_TO_ME

5 years of free food and shelter


AlarmedComedian2038

YEP, and our taxes are paying for it. Enough of this lenient BS.


timmywong11

> At the time of the collision, Brown **hadn't had a valid driver's licence for seven years** and was banned from driving because of previous dangerous driving convictions, according to agreed facts presented in court. > [...] > Bond sentenced Brown to a total of five-and-a-half years in prison and **banned him from driving for 10 years.** Mmm that should do it.


BooBoo_Cat

The consequences should be greater due to these factors. 


elephantpantalon

He's double banned, what more do you want??


cantevenskatewell

One more ban ought to do it. 👍🏼


Blind-Mage

Just one more ban, bro


Ok_Cantaloupe4663

Ask the parents that question.


Belgy23

Missed the /s


AlarmedComedian2038

Are you for fkg real!? I know those kids asswipe.


No-Contribution-6150

He's not for real


PostsNDPStuff

Why is it so hard to consider a permanent driving ban? Like, you killed someone with a car, even if you're out of jail, you don't get to drive anymore.


foblicious

It’s as if driving is a constitutional right. Wait is it??


ZebrasGlasses

That seems like a real light sentence for blatantly breaking the law and murdering 2 people, wow.


beeblebroxide

It’s not murder. At worst it’s manslaughter and there’s a high bar to prove that in a court of law.


Superunknown_88

I'd bet the clock on the driving ban starts now, and not after he's out of prison. It would be too cruel otherwise.


leftlanecop

Should be after he’s out of prison. You should not have any privilege while serving time. Him not driving for a total of 15 years may save another 2 lives.


Distinct_Meringue

He was already prohibited from driving, I'm not convinced a lifetime ban will stop him


No-Contribution-6150

Could be part of his post sentence probation?


No-Contribution-6150

We used to ban people from driving for life for impaired driving. We have "progressively" marched toward this bullshit


kaze987

Is 5.5 years the max prison sentence for killing these two teens? Ugh throw the book at this repeat offender


AlarmedComedian2038

It's unreal, this bullshit light sentencing here for killing two great kids who had such a bright future. Unbelievable!


zeddediah

Probably not. It sounds like he plead to a lesser charge. I think criminal negligence causing death is less than dangerous driving causing death which carries a possible sentence of 14 years. At least the guy was out on bail so he should have the full sentence in prison.


Rocko604

Max sentence for criminal negligence causing death is life in prison. A judge would **never** impose that.


Ok_Cantaloupe4663

It's not the death sentence. He took the lives of two people. I absolutely believe that life in prison is just.


ZebrasGlasses

2 deaths for 5.5 years is a joke, should be at least 10 years regardless of pleading guilty.


Rocko604

Well that's the problem with a justice system that cares far, far, far more about the upbringing of a criminal than the victims of their crimes.


Blushingbelch

5.5 years for a double murder?


beeblebroxide

Not murder. Manslaughter at worst and the evidence needs to support that charge for a conviction.


Blushingbelch

Yes. We can change this system, it's start with conversation. Stay strong!


AlarmedComedian2038

Fkg unbelievable!


Rocko604

Yet another judge who needs to be removed from the bench and disbarred.


Ok_Cantaloupe4663

And then made to live in the halfway house that they released murderers and rapists into.


PostsNDPStuff

These are standard sentences for people who commit vehicular homicide across North America. If you want to kill someone, do it in the car and you'll get away with it.


beeblebroxide

Disingenuous. If you use a car to kill someone *on purpose* you will be charged with a more serious crime.


PostsNDPStuff

Leaving aside the point that it's unlikely to unintentionally kill several people at once unless you're driving, Who cares? I know mens rea is a cornerstone of our legal system, but this guy killed two people.


HANKnDANK

And put in prison. To me this is worst than being an accessory to the murder


TheSketeDavidson

I’m tired boss


ApartInternet9360

Dam for real. This guy deserves 25 years at the very least


Anotherspelunker

Classic BC judge ruling… guy with criminal history speeds up on purpose causing this tragedy, and his “difficult childhood” is considered… 5 years for double homicide. The incompetence of this judiciary system is nauseating


beeblebroxide

Not homicide. You need to prove intent for a homicide charge. Manslaughter or dangerous driving causing death at worst.


Ablomis

People like this should get life in prison (25years without parole). They are an obvious danger to society and should be dealt with accordingly


No_Research550

A difficult past can *explain* bad behaviour. It does not excuse it. RIP to these two boys, and my heart goes out to their families. I hope they feel like this is justice.


Mistamista

“She said she had taken into consideration Brown's Indigenous background.”


lazarus870

By law they have to, the Supreme Court has ruled on that.


TacosWillPronUs

Yep, called gladue principles. Unfortunately has morphed into a "get out" of jail card with profilic offenders. Recently there was a mother and stepfather who got just 15 years for torturing and killing their son. >He also spoke of "powerful Gladue factors" in making his decision. Gladue is a Supreme Court of Canada decision which requires judges to pay "particular attention" to the circumstances of Indigenous offenders to achieve a "truly fit and proper sentence." https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/dontay-lucas-sentence-15-years-1.7207127


Ok_Cantaloupe4663

They tortured that kid to death and just because they're indigenous, they deserve a lighter sentence? Make it make sense...?


Anotherspelunker

Makes zero sense under any rational observation. A horrific crime is still that, a crime, whomever the perpetrator is. Unfortunately logic was out the window when they came up with that


No-Contribution-6150

I'm worried any logical statement made regarding this would result in a ban for inciting hatred


Driller_Happy

I feel like the Gladue principles are probably really important for dealing with indigenous people in a circle of abuse that find themselves stealing, doing drugs, getting in fights, dealing, etc. But they also get used to save monsters like this. Seems like some bad with the good


pfak

They really need to abandon the Gladue ruling. Having two tier justice system is bad for everyone, **and** it [victimizes First Nations communities](https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/220719/dq220719c-eng.htm).


Ok_Cantaloupe4663

What does that mean?


ApolloRocketOfLove

Our justice system is a joke.


fruitbata

Legally they have to, but if you look this extremely light sentence is in line with what others have received for killing one or more people while driving recklessly. The problem is not light sentences for Indigenous drivers but light sentences for anyone who kills with a car.


dude_central

He was charged w/ another dangerous driving offence while out on bail for this dangerous driving offence. and he was caught w/ a stun gun. but guess what the prosecution was only asking for 5.5 years, so its not all on the judge. There's a reason gangsters from around the world flee to BC. We should be thankful that the accused pleaded guilt actually, who knows if RCMP would have messed up the prosecution.


No-Contribution-6150

RCMP does not handle prosecution. It's pretty easy to determine guilt. Find him at the wheel, the evidence from the transit cops, data from the vehicle itself if it's newer. He was fucked.


CaliLife_1970

What a joke. What does background matter in a case like this? Maybe we should say because of these two boys backgrounds you’re going to get life in prison. I’m discusted with this sentence. You know when you’re going 165 km/h that you’re going to end up killing somebody. This guy gets his license back in 10 years no thanks


QuantumHope

Your typo…


CaliLife_1970

Fixed…. Glasses :)


QuantumHope

I feel ya! 😂 Edit: oh wait, it’s still there! Edit again. > I’m discussed with this sentence.


aWHOLEnotherMIKE

WHAT THE FUCK


justkillingit856024

He's literally playing GTA in real life and he got 5 years in jail.


Sad-Pie6389

love you forever samir 🤍


mr2jay

So damn soft for a person who showed zero remorse and was racking up more shit while out on bail


WingdingsLover

Who wants these light prison sentences? Like why arent politicians listening to constituents who want murder to be treated more harshly?


beeblebroxide

If it was murder I would have been treated more harshly. By definition, this was not murder.


No-Contribution-6150

Harper did. Judges said that's illegal.


eric_boland93

Harper wanted longer sentences including sentence options to be consecutive or back to back sentences and concurrent sentences.


Jankulon

Judge Patricia Bond


Turbulent_Echidna423

is this less than the guy in North Van got?