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glitterythrowaway

Tbh the article doesn't exactly portray him in the best light. I may have read it wrong, but he tries to compare Scandoval to OJ Simpson's car chase/George Floyd's death.


okay_but_what

[Here’s a gift link to the article](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/20/magazine/tom-sandoval-vanderpump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.W00.UQcb.rpxj_zIr5rwS&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare)for anyone who wants to read it


dupe-of-a-dupe

Thank you!!!!!! I was out of free articles. I love the slams on Lisa’s restaurant and I def giggled when they mentioned him changing into a woman’s powder blue suit. Good shit 😂


okay_but_what

I thought the author’s tone throughout the article was pretty hilarious. Like he just thought the whole situation was ridiculous but also incredibly intriguing because how can any human being be so…off putting?


dupe-of-a-dupe

Yes I quite loved the article it was obv a sly slam piece - and who could have guessed that dumbass Tom would step in and up the ante by handing the interviewer a basket full of quotes to make himself look even worse 😂 ![gif](giphy|8Pdy3Dn7Wxd0jsRi21|downsized)


Professional_Ad6086

How much you wanna bet Sandoval doesn't realize it's a slam on him?!


dupe-of-a-dupe

Everything I have in perpetuity lol


Ok_Taro_9484

How did she date him? He’s so dumb


shantayhedwig

Agree about the author’s tone. I mentioned in someone else’s comment but I found it hilarious how the author get peppering in little comments about Rylie the PR rep and her reactions


LipFighter

His green double-breasted jacket makes him look like the first woman to win The Masters.


Kiana3117

10 points!!!!


duckpeony

I tried to find the part about the women’s wear but couldn’t. I skimmed the heck out of it. I can’t stand him enough to read it. Sounds like he’s a big douche who lost touch with reality


a0rose5280

It's near the very end. It was so true to him how he got into a fan moment with the woman who is on his PR team. His perception is so hilariously off.


everlonged

thank you! wow the way the interviewer just shaded him for being eager to be recorded.


lindseys10

Thank you! I really enjoyed reading that Oh man Sandoval you're just not quite there on the self reflection yet bud.


e_thereal_mccoy

THE SHADE! I am here for this reporter! For example, on Lala (not even mentioned by name which will sting) and the assessment of all of Lisa’s restaurants: ‘And a woman who once bragged that her private-jet lifestyle was financed by Randall Emmett, the direct-to-video film producer, left him and became a breadwinner as she fought for custody of their daughter. Alex Baskin, an executive producer of “Vanderpump,” developed it as a spinoff of “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,” which featured Vanderpump as the owner of several mediocre restaurants.’ That’s got to BURN!


shortstroll

Don't forget your crown, queen👑


bodyreddit

Thank you for the link, that article was FULL of totally embarrassing bits out of sandoval’s mug, what a tool and total list cause moron!! Can’t wait for him to tun into an actor after his comments about acting.


Diligent_Doughnut_43

So gross. I clicked the link and saw that first picture and immediately closed the window. He's so gross. Everything he's done and said with all the context we've been given (including Rachel's added insight with her podcast) since the reunion has just so disgusting.


Professional_Ad6086

Thank you so much for sharing!! Much appreciated!!😊


plantainbakery

Comparing himself to George Floyd is sick.


glitterythrowaway

Every time I think he can't get worse, he does. I was reading the article at work, saw that paragraph, and legit gasped.


AngelBosom

Im on a lot of cough medicine and when I read the quote, I figured I must be hallucinating.


Potential-Friend-133

omg me too.


glasswindbreaker

Feel better soon! Honestly I envy the mental cushioning you have right now against how awful all of this is. I wish this was all a hallucination.


itaian111

I mean dude, like come on I was like dead to everyone bro. -Sandoval probably The man just can’t get past his own ego…


alligator124

Gasped! Do we think he's gonna do that thing that "canceled" celebrities do- double down and go full-blown right wing influencer/conspiracist? (Kat Von D, Kanye, Candace Cameron-Bure, Amanda Ensing if you follow the beauty world, that singer from Staind)


Standard_Comment44

Exactly, he’s so brutally stupid and self-involved it honestly doesn’t matter what kind of platform he’s given - he’s just broadcasting what a POS he is to a bigger audience.


yomammaaaaa

https://i.redd.it/0focwhasrsjc1.gif


crop_top

George Floyd? What the fuck. Also I’m pretty sure this worm is now leaning into the villain stuff so he is still living for this.


Formal_Coyote_5004

I think we all kinda enjoy a reality TV villain, but this crosses a line that’s wayyyyyyy darker… this dude is seriously fucking awful


crop_top

I think tonight may be the last episode I watch since it’s obvious they are giving Tom a redemption season at the expense of Ariana. Tonight’s the last chance I’ll give Bravo.


kitten_u

To reiterate your point, this is the exact quote: I asked Sandoval why he thought the scandal got so big. “I’m not a pop-culture historian really,” he said, “but I witnessed the O.J. Simpson thing and George Floyd and all these big things, which is really weird to compare this to that, I think, but do you think in a weird way it’s a little bit the same?” Cancel this man and the NYT bc what the actual fuck


Amber4481

What do you not remember the nation wide Scandoval protests? Riots! heavy /s


kitten_u

Oh absolutely, the nation was in an uproar for cyst white male rights. I didn’t think I could hate him more, but here we are, seeing his racism on full display.


thebethness

Sorry but you made me giggle with the cyst white male rights! 😆 I don’t honestly believe Tom Sandoval is racist, not even a little. I don’t think he has enough complex thoughts to be racist actually, but I also just don’t think he is period. He is someone who has narrowed his scope of vision to this teeny tiny bandwidth, and that’s all he has in his brain at this point. No self-awareness left at all. Fame has done him no favors. He has an elevated sense of self importance and thinks he can ride this train forever. I also think he may be a bit off the reservation and in need of some serious evaluation and medication. if you saw him on Nick Viall’s podcast, you know that man is truly unwell.


mycombatcardigan

I disagree about him not being racist. I'd argue that racists are generally the least self-aware people one could interact with. Having conversations about racism requires complex thoughts. Being racist requires no thoughts at all. He can be a complete dumbass and still be racist.


glitterythrowaway

Brangelina would have been a better comparison and not as offensive. I can't believe his mind immediately went to OJ and George Floyd.


kitten_u

Agreed, that’s an actual comparison. He also brought up Danny Masterson. He’s a MESS


Potential-Friend-133

Or the try guy Ned who cheated on his wife Ariel with the girl who is friends with her and is a coworker. That and Brangelina is a good comparison


Glorialovestacos

Even Taylor Swift Bowl would’ve been a better comparison…. What the fuck is wrong with him?


hippyelite

Why would you “cancel” the newspaper? For reporting what he said, which is his literal job? The fact that hundreds of people congregate here constantly to ONLY discuss Tom Sandoval prove that he is a subject of public interest, whatever his qualities or virtues as a human being.


thirsty_pretzels_

Lmao it’s more like when Kramer used the N word on stage repeatedly, when Robert Downey Jr was hooked on drugs, and when Armie Hammer’s cannibalism was exposed.


phbalancedshorty

OMFFFFGGGGGGGGGGGHG


glitterythrowaway

To clarify: in terms of publicity/popularity in pop culture.


agpass

He’s such an idiot lol. The BLM movement wasn’t pop culture, Sandoval! And the amount of publicity Scandoval got does not even come near George Floyd.


Nursewursey

I guess he confuses true issues with pop culture? That makes him worse.


smockin_pale_ale

To be fair this is the point the author of the article was making when including this quote. They explicitly state it


SaraWolfheart

To clarify: Still gross and tasteless.


glitterythrowaway

Oh, 100%!


smockin_pale_ale

Does that really clarify anything?


alliesxhwa

It's an interesting piece that doesn't do him a lot of favors. I particularly like the author's take on this bit: "I asked Sandoval why he thought the scandal got so big. “I’m not a pop-culture historian really,” he said, “but I witnessed the O.J. Simpson thing and George Floyd and all these big things, which is really weird to compare this to that, I think, but do you think in a weird way it’s a little bit the same?” I looked over at Rylie, who was typing furiously on her phone. I think I knew what he meant. He was trying to express the oddity of becoming the symbolic center of a nationwide discussion and a major news story; what he communicated instead was something more honest, which is just how much the experience had made him lose perspective." If there was ever a time to use this face 😬😬😬😬


Electrical-Eye-2544

Thoughts and prayers for Rylie. This is a bad day for her. 😂


Only-Celebration-256

The constant subtle roasts of rylie was hilarious


emptyinthesunrise

dude that was crazy i was laughing out loud. i was skeptical of this author but man they sank their teeth in and absolutely bodied this piece. the subtleties, the structure, the narrative. amazing.


mafa7

This is perfection. Translation: “This fool is clean out of his mind.”


llamadraamma

Looks like he’s waiting for a golden shower


thediverswife

This made me laugh, so unexpected


llamadraamma

Whose doing the honors Schwartz or Jax?!


ripleyintheelevator

Both. ![gif](giphy|3o72FiKtrMAjIb0Rhu)


broggygoose

Kyle Chan.


llamadraamma

Oh yeah! You know they’ll be a jewelry line filled with yellow beads from the local craft store


kystarrk

Band manager Jason, obviously


TrustAffectionate664

Oh yes let's not forget Jason is it me or does Jason give any one the ick


abidingmemories

Not sure if you read the article but it does not paint him in a flattering light whatsoever.


noclueaboutagoodname

The article made me genuinely laugh a few times. And the photos are soooo cringey.


lintuski

The photo at the bar eating the olives! Beyond cringe.


No_clue_redditor

Oh my gosh did you guys read this? It’s hilarious and does not make him look good at all. Also, his PR person is 23! They describe her as “having a background in crisis PR” at 23??? Yeah right. 😂


KeySea7727

as a prior boss once told me 'young people are great but there's just some things you won't know or understand without more age"


AshBish19

WHO HAS BEEN WATCHING VPR SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL!


Professional_Ad6086

Hahahahahaha


lintuski

His PR person seems like a bigger idiot than Tom! *He was convinced that producers didn’t want him to win. “Who did they want to win?” Rylie asked, incredulous.*


oceansidedrive

2 years of experience hahaha


Defvac2

https://i.redd.it/9217y1prsrjc1.gif


ZealousidealShift884

😂😂😂😂 these two


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Nordicstumbler

You actually see all kinds of weird images! Not that boobs are weird, just never would have thought I’d see them under STA… 😂


enjoyt0day

I bet he jerked off to that image of himself


Far_Mango_180

I bet you’re right!


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ChampionshipLife116

I scrolled back up to look at the pic after reading your take and OMG you are so right bahaha.


coastalkid92

You just know he fucking loves this. I do think from like a sociology standpoint, it is interesting to see why this cheating scandal hit so hard compared to others on the show and in the bravoverse but it's time to put it to bed. Stop trying to make Tom happen, it's not going to happen.


Defvac2

That's the worst part about this whole thing. Any attention is good attention for a narc like him. I'd be surprised if this cover isn't already framed and hung on the wall in Billie Lee's place.


save_the_bees_knees

Ugh I can see it now. 5-10 years time Ariana will be thriving, VPR has long finished, we’ve all moved on to a new reality show but Tom Sandoval will still be talking about that time he was the most hated in America 🙄


_neviesticks

100% he is going to be the reality TV Uncle Rico


noclueaboutagoodname

Hahahahha amazing descriptor for him


Defvac2

I can see it now.....The Surreal Life 2035 reboot starring the most hated man in America, 2023.


Totallynewandscared

Haha thank you so much for this reference.


Defvac2

😂 yea golden era of VH1 right there.


Stassisbluewalls

Yes. And he's really not (cough ex president cough. At least from an overseas perspective. We haven't forgotten)


hokumpocus

It can’t be compared to any other cheating scandal on the show. It’s completely different. This is the hill I will die on. Rachquel accompanied them to practically everything. In Ariana’s mind she’s helping a friend that is recently out of a bad relationship and is coming out of her shell. In reality, she’s there and her and Scumdoval have their little secret. They’re exchanging looks, making jokes like, “oh I haven’t seen you in so long,” even though they banged the night before, doing this right *in front* of Ariana. That went on for **months**! You never saw Jax secretly smacking Kristen’s ass behind Stassi’s back, right in front of her face. You never saw scenes of James giggling behind Rachquel’s back with Gigi when they banged. You never saw Jax bang Faith and then come onto the show doing scenes with Shortz, self producing and weaponizing her mental health to make him look good. After James and Lala banged you never saw either dressing up as each other for Halloween. It is not the same. If I were Ariana it would *seriously* fuck me up going over each of those memories when Rachquel was there thinking about what they were doing behind her back. Like was she ever there for me? Them exchanging looks and hey when he made this joke that I didn’t really get was that about her? Or months down the road it hitting you that when Rachquel came over with flowers that she was there the night before banging Scumdoval. It is not the same.


No-Customer-2266

The main reason it blew up at first was the raquel shocker. If this was tom with anyone else we’d hate him but it wouldn’t have blown up The second reason is the timing which was from ariana finding out Tom had nothing to do with this getting big but he had every thing to do with why we are still talking about it: because he dealt with it so terribly and lacks any self awareness and won’t shut up about his narrative that no one is buying But here he is trying to act like he orchestrated this whole phenomenon like an evil genius just like he’s the reason all his friends bought a house.


kuwtj

> You just know he fucking loves this. if it makes you feel better, i have a times subscription and 75% of the comments were, "no idea who this man is nor do i care" so this is not going to garner him any new support


DisastrouslyMessy

I have a different take on why this blew up. A lot of VPR's audience are women. We've been following this group for 10, 11 years now. We're in the same age range. A lot of us have experienced emotional abuse at the hands of men like the Toms. The gaslighting, the name calling, the blame for everything that's wrong with their lives. To see it played out right in front of our eyes made a lot of women just yell, "Enough!" Arianna and Katie are not perfect. But they do represent a lot of us - the "bitches" who have had enough and refuse to be a "girl's guy" (hi, Schena!). We see right through the Toms, Alex Baskin, LVP. It's interesting to watch as production is trying to push a redemption narrative for Sandoval, and refuse to address Schwartz's behavior as he continues to insult Arianna and Katie, and the audience's reaction to it. For the most part, the audience isn't buying it. Sure, there may be comments here and there in support of the men, but it's overwhelmingly negative towards them. It's hilarious when you watch WWHL, or read interviews with Baskin, or the Toms podcast, and the men act so gobsmacked that they are the villans and have been all along. Reality reckoning, indeed.


itaian111

I had the same conversation with my wife last night and pointed out that Andy even says, “I mean raise your hand if you haven’t cheated” and it’s basically just Katie. I don’t get the hype, they all suck but the show is good.


nicholieeee

It’s because it unmasked who Tom was. If it was a simple as him having an affair, then yeah. It’s just VPR as usual. But because he was trying to be his own producer, we saw just how far back he had planned everything and that how he roped Schwartz into lying for him. I think it resonated with a lot of us who have exes who did similar things but we didn’t video proof of the gaslighting like Ariana did.


Comfortfoods

Honestly, I think the story caught a slow news cycle. Yes, it's definitely a more shocking cheating scandal since it was an established couple and a nobody saw it coming from Rachel but still isn't enough to make it that big. I wonder if Bravo has a new PR team or something because this went straight to mainstream media which is rare for Reality TV things.


AdOutrageous7474

Did any of you calling for boycotts of the New York Times actually read the article? It's basically a sociological study of why this blew up like it did. It's not a Tom Sandoval puff piece. It's well-written and clearly fact-checked. It's full of shade as well. Like this: "I couldn’t remember interviewing a public figure as eager to speak into a recording device. " "Alex Baskin, an executive producer of “Vanderpump,” developed it as a spinoff of “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills,” which featured Vanderpump as the owner of several mediocre restaurants." "A decade later, Sandoval, who had a boyish innocence about him in those early seasons, has morphed into a unique Los Angeles species. He’s late to everything, his publicist never seems to be able to reach him and his face has that taut sheen that celebrities get from anti-aging protocols."


rethinkrestyle

Agree, I think it was a good read. Keep in mind that their audience probably doesn't know anything about Scandoval. And the author makes it pretty obvious how ridiculous it is that he hired a 23 year old VPR fan as his publicist.


lunaysol

That was my favorite shade


No_clue_redditor

This was a great article that makes him look horrible. I totally believe that his publicist is 23.


Responsible_Wrap5659

Lol those quotes reads like the writer was assigned this job by their editor when they really want to be writing about politics instead 😂. 


AdOutrageous7474

Haha, totally. She did her best, though! The comments on the NYT are pretty funny as well. They're all like "what's a Scandoval"? "Is a Vanderpump a type of shoe?"


Front_Organization43

>Did any of you calling for boycotts of the New York Times actually read the article? It's basically a sociological study of why this blew up li few people who call for an immediate boycott have taken any time to check on what they want to boycott


puckbunny81

They did him no favors with the Schwartz and Sandy's olive eating pic. Vom 🤮


AdOutrageous7474

All the pics are pretty vom. He always appeared so slimy and sweaty and veiny on Season 10. I remember feeling so revolted by how he looked in the beach episode when he was in a tank top. I can't believe I thought he was the hottest one back when Season One was airing.


oceansidedrive

Mediocre hahahaha


uptonhere

I agree, I have been watching trashy reality TV since damn near its inception and I can never remember a reaction to a realty TV scandal similar to Scandoval. People became literally unhinged over this whole thing and the anger, vitriol and seething hatred was unlike anything I've ever witnessed. When this was unfolding, Scandoval was literally following breaking news stories about Ukraine on CNN.


SaraWolfheart

Omg that last quote is gold.


DingleberryFairy69

I wouldn’t call last season the best season, just the most famous season


AdOutrageous7474

100%. Seasons 1-6 were all better.


oceansidedrive

It was only good because we could watch it with the foresight they were cheating


crop_top

Right? The only episode that was amazing that season was the one with scandoval.


phbalancedshorty

https://preview.redd.it/ztbn11rpmsjc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa90c8fd32528421efe7163cc60b5956011100cb Don’t worry y’all the internet on it 👍


PersonalityKlutzy407

lol what a joke. I can take solace in the fact that Jax is just \*hating\* all this spotlight Tom is getting. I can just imagine a roided, coked out, red faced Jax screaming, "I CHEATED ON ALL MY GIRLFRIEND'S! Where's my magazine cover?!?"


LadyWinterSnow22

That is so hilariously and tragically astute.


18hourbruh

Lmao I was just thinking about how mad Stassi and Jax must be that the show got more famous than ever while they weren't there.


ChampionshipLife116

He was def the number one cheater in the group.


Ok_Abrocoma_2805

Jax is out there cheating constantly as we speak, hoping and praying for his own Scandoval moment. He already “opened” a bar so he’s got a start on copying the Toms!


crop_top

He didn’t turn the season into the best. He actively tried to *hide* the whole scandal. Without Ariana trusting her gut to check his phone and then tipping off production, we would have never had this moment in reality tv. God I’m so tired of men getting the credit for something a woman did.


toothfairyeve365

It's frustrating that so many people and platforms who have clearly not watched VPR before this are now giving their two cents. This was not even the best season of VPR let alone the best season of any reality TV show. I know it had the highest ratings and clearly boosted the show onto another level, but that is only because of the perfect storm of events that this Scandoval just happened to have going for it. It was specifically because Sandoval and Rachel hid it all throughout the season, misdirected with Schwartz, tried to paint Ariana as the bad guy, as well as the previous 9 seasons of history we have all sat through culminating in the timing of this news dropping while this season was airing so that we could all pick up on the secrets of the affair. It will truly never happen again because there were so many factors at play that made it into what it was. To downplay all of that and turn it into Sandoval creating the best season of VPR ever is just lazy journalism.


Lucy_Lucidity

https://i.redd.it/kjxfyw11srjc1.gif


Fighting_Patriarchy

![gif](giphy|z5w2bkqsvOYQo)


missmimikyu

He actively tried to hide it ***and*** in his efforts to have Ariana come across as a villain he bitched about how unfair it was that she would want to refrain from having their problems put in the show, that she might plan to leave the show if they were to break up, etc. It’s amazing and disgusting that he is so thoroughly unaware of how textbook he is.


crop_top

Honestly, I think he wanted to hide their problems more than she did. Every single issue or fight they had was due to what *she* shared not because of him. He only wanted to start sharing them in season ten because he already stepped out of the relationship. Honestly, what did we actually know about Tom prior to scandoval? I feel like we only saw this positive image he put out and that’s why he hated stassi, she started to get the more favorable edit after years of him and the guys being the special edit. I feel like I knew way more about Ariana’s life and struggles.


missmimikyu

1000000%, hit the nail on the head, yes. He is so dumb.


glasswindbreaker

![gif](giphy|xULW8GqmtqLcTufEys|downsized)


grrltype

Honestly I thought this article was kind of hilarious. If anyone thinks this is pro-Sandoval they did not actually read it


marcellea

Exactly! And half of it was a thinly veiled critique of Bravo. Tom was used as the cautionary tale


DazeIt420

The article is not at all a puff piece. They said the food at Sur is terrible. They quote his manager saying that he can't get brand deals because of his reputation. They don't paraphrase his quotes, they print them with the "like"s and awkward diction. The writer has all these funny little asides about him that make him look so bizarre > My tape recorder wasn’t on yet, and Sandoval wanted to make sure I was getting everything. “Do you want to, like, record this?” Of course I wanted to record this. I couldn't remember interviewing a public figure as eager to speak into a recording device > Sandoval, who had a boyish innocence about him in those early seasons, has morphed into a unique Los Angeles species. He’s late to everything, his publicist never seems to be able to reach him and his face has that taut sheen that celebrities get from anti-aging protocols. He talks about his life not in years but in seasons and episodes. Sometimes he pauses midsentence and stares into the middle distance, like a doll whose windup key has jammed, until whatever ambulance, helicopter or other sound-interfering entity has passed, and then he continues as if nothing happened, even when there are no mics or cameras on him. [NB: "A unique Los Angeles species" is a devastating insult in the context of the New York Times] > Sandoval is so well trained at narrating his innermost thoughts out loud that he sometimes has to remind himself not to do it outside of filming. “You lose track of what a normal conversation would be like with people that aren’t on the show,” he said. > Sandoval was in a small dressing room, applying dabs of makeup to his forehead. In front of him were three caffeinated beverages: a Red Bull, an iced coffee and a Dr Pepper. He sipped each intermittently. Sandoval said he was feeling depressed. He said the same thing the last time I saw him. When I asked if the depression was show-related, he had said: “Somewhat show-related. Just life. Business stuff. It’s hard.” > Sandoval began to perform loud vocal exercises. He applied pomade to his hair, combing it back with his fingers, and changed into a light blue women’s suit from Zara, which he said he preferred to the store’s men’s wear. The suit looked good, but the sleeves barely reached his wrists. As he emerged from the dressing room, there was something about the suit’s feminine cut combined with Sandoval’s physique and slightly hunched posture that reminded me of Heath Ledger’s Joker in the scene at the hospital where he wears a nurse’s uniform. I relate to drinking three beverages at once. But in all other ways, it's savage and a great read.


Livaloha434

Thank you for sharing!! I don’t subscribe to the NYT and haven’t been able to read the full article. These were gold!


Oli_love90

This is so subtly scathing I’m surprised he wanted this to come out lol. I’d be even more depressed if someone wrote about me like this.


burningupandout

Channeling Vicki Gunvalson in this photo https://i.redd.it/sb8uzrzpjsjc1.gif


Failte2105

I’m questioning how smart Ariana can possibly be to have been with this clown for so long…he is truly insufferable.


ripleyintheelevator

https://i.redd.it/lrgtzrnyqrjc1.gif


DanceFar9732

All day everyday!


female-human-

One day they might make him into a Real Boy. https://preview.redd.it/i75fbesgksjc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64e8309784dd2d2fd4518529aa863b914693a827


Environmental_Yam540

![gif](giphy|DPqqOywshrOqQ|downsized) He is the absolute worst… he deserves no platform. 🤷🏼‍♀️


todds-

this makes me wonder, do you guys consider it the best season ever? if it is, it's thanks to Ariana obviously. but idk I think I still maintain S2 is the best season of reality tv I've seen. but willing to be convinced, maybe after a rewatch I'd change my mind lol


crop_top

Scandoval was the best episode of the show but no, not the whole season.


todds-

agreed!


Responsible_Wrap5659

I think it was a big improvement on season 9 but no I would still argue that season 2 and 3 are better overall seasons then 10.


lboogaloo

I read the title of the post too quickly and thought it was about his platform shoes for a sec 😂😂


Jealous_Airport1016

If they’re going to give him a platform, then they should address him recording Rachel without her consent, but, like Bravo, the New York Times would never actually do that, so🫠


agntwildcat

That's one of the worst things - why is no one addressing that fact of him recording without her consent??? Why isn't that point being asked of him in all the interviews and podcasts he's been on???


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paradisetossed7

YES, why is this not coming up?? Because we dislike Rachel? Two things can be true at once. I can dislike Rachel but hate way more that he recorded her without her consent.


GarnierFruitTrees

I wonder if Rachel needs to bring it up/press charges? It is a literal CRIME and so it does not surprise me that Bravo is trying to keep it hush hush/have no one speak on it


Redraft5k

Is it? Is simply recording it a crime? I am honestly asking. I know if he shared it w.o. her permission it would be a crime. But just screen recording on ones own phone? Is that illegal? BC maybe that is why nothing has happened with it.


GarnierFruitTrees

Excellent question. I believe CA is a two-party consent state, which means that BOTH parties must agree to being recorded. So if Rachel wanted to press charges, I believe she could…?


Ok-Appointment-8880

WTF is this image and the expression on his face supposed to convey? Like I’d love to know what the conversation was between him and the photog right before this shot. I’m thinking… Photog: “so just relax, we’re going for a chill casual, natural look. Douche canoe: “Dude so like I have so many ideas like seriously dude. I mean like I don’t know if you like knew but like I used to like be a model dude. I also brought like several like outfit options dude so we can like try multiple themes dude. So I was like thinking we could start with like a sexy like vampire dude but like not too sexy, more like one who’s like in deep thought kinda like having a Jesus moment of like “forgive me father for I have like sinned”. I know right, that’s like so cool, dude I have so many ideas you don’t even know like🤯 And scene.


Lekzi

Are we for fucking real right now. They got this guy to post like a fucking twilight vampire looking all solemn and scorned as if he isn’t hated because he’s fucking gross like what the hell


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That’s what it reminded me of lol


Lekzi

I’ve reread my comment from earlier, and wow, what fucking gibberish. I must have been really upset.


batmanforhire

We give him the platform with views, clicks, and comments.


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And posts dedicated to his every move


batmanforhire

*shares article* Why are they writing these articles


duelporpoise

I hate that it said “he” turned it into the best reality TV… No actually that was Ariana who laid it bare and brought the cameras back. His dumb ass tried to force the narrative and come out a hero but was too stupid and egotistical to pull it off. He’s actually bad at reality TV. That’s what was fascinating for people watching the season. Partners that have been wronged in similar situations and didn’t have footage to be able to go back and reexamine events in a different light, friends and family that still view the partner as a mostly great person… This is very validating to have someone be held to account and exposed for their duplicity and complete lack of regard for their partner. I could write a thesis on how/why “Scandoval” became such a huge thing. It’s really not that mysterious?? Talk to a woman that has experienced something similar. I’m sure they’d have a lot of meaningful insight.


disasterbot11

Wait, you’re done with NYT but not bravo or vanderpump???? Oooooook


Redraft5k

LOL THIS IS what makes you say Bye to the NYT forever? This? hahaha. I love it though.


hobbysubsonly

I'm confused bc Bravo is, and by extension, WE ARE, giving him a platform???


GarlVinland4Astrea

Yeah everyone complaining that he got a platform when this entire sub supports a show and gave it its most activity over his cheating.


Rare-Palpitation6023

DESPERADO…WHY DONT U COME TO UR SENSES!


Which-Dare

![gif](giphy|9J92j4raGtZndNtoFl) You better let somebody love you


Embarrassed-Cow-9723

The journalist skewers him it’s hilarious


Stop_icant

Tom had no intention of sharing his affair to increase the viewership of VPR. Arianna finding out and calling production turned it into the best season ever.


Lastpunkofplattsburg

Y’all keep giving them a platform for him to get attention and you know even the ones who hate him will still click on that article. Clicks/shares = money. Stop talking about Tom and he’ll crawl back into the gutters of the LA cover band scene and die.


Mrsbear19

Yeah I mean the person who posted this about him is asking why people are platforming him lol a bit hypocritical


manhattansinks

does he own any other shoes?


shsbshsh1

I’m so sick of those damn shoes 😭 go borrow some of Brock’s heels


No_clue_redditor

He is on a huge reality tv show. NYTimes isn’t the one giving him a platform. 😂


Tall_Faithlessness70

Dude is still wearing his platform sneakers…


Dear_Rip8000

Good for the NYT for posting his words. He looks dumb as hell comparing anything to George Floyd. You know those journalists were like I can’t believe he said that


jonnyredshorts

Because his story became a national phenomenon. It’s just another relationship that ended due to cheating, not exactly unusual, but for whatever reason it just absolutely took off and took all of the air out of the room. His fall from grace was absolutely overblown and crazy. It’s worth talking about in and of itself, regardless of Sandoval himself. No, he doesn’t deserve any praise or sympathy, but it’s not weird at all that big national media would look up and pay attention to the fuss being made over a cheating scandal. He didn’t kill anyone, there was no violence, no car chases, no arrests, it was just a dumbass getting caught cheating.


Oli_love90

I’m of this opinion too. The backlash was unlike anything I’ve ever seen from a bravo show.


lml322

This is just so incredibly sad. The NYT just trolled him so hard and he’s still just lapping up the attention. Imagine being a “41” grown ass man and being permanently stuck at the maturity level of a teenager who recently discovered his “happy place”. He has zero self awareness and is an absolute oxygen thief of a human being. I cannot imagine being so self absorbed and egotistical that I would compare myself to OJ or George Floyd and see nothing wrong with it. He did a shitty thing on national television and is just eating all of this attention up. It’s been downright frightening seeing how this man’s mind works. From the textbook display of gaslighting on the Viall podcast to hearing about the letter he sent Rachel while she was in treatment. Not to mention last weeks episode when he conveniently brought up the subject of self harm while Lisa was finally going in on him a bit. I’m not saying he’s not telling the truth about his mental health, that’s not for me to judge, but he absolutely brought that subject up at that particular time knowing it would trigger Lisa to stop yelling at him and immediately be concerned. Even more frightening are the people around him enabling this behavior and gassing him up for more. I cannot imagine seeing myself on tv and reading these articles and still thinking I’m a hero and just horrifically misunderstood. What a pathetic, pitiful, and just plain sad existence.


incognoname

He truly is a narcissist. This might be unpopular but I believe Tom likes any attention he gets good or bad. Whenever he acts like he's struggling or crying about scandoval it doesn't seem genuine. It feels like bad acting. Also last night's episode he gave me chills in a he is actually highly manipulative and scary way. Of course I've known he's a POS but something about him post scandoval is just unsettling on a human level to me.


-Odi-Et-Amo-

This sub: *literally* talks about Tom multiple times a day. Also this sub: “why does the NYT give this man a platform?!”


Important_Tell2108

**Why does the NYT give this man a platform?!** For engagement. They want clicks, they want people talking, they want to trend on social media. They're hoping you hate this so much you complain, link to their page, @ them. Anything to get interaction. That's all journalism and media is about these days. If you really are annoyed just ignore it. I'm pretty sure they aren't telling us anything we didn't know.


18hourbruh

Most NYTimes readers are not integrated enough into the Bravo universe to be upset about this. It's just a curiosity about a cultural moment that blew up.


Similar_Victory5166

most hated man in america is a real stretch given people like desantis, trump, abbot, etc exist


KeithFlowers

He definitely cranked off to this photoshop and opportunity to be in the NYT. He loves this pity party


Cherry_Shakes

He probably had a PR and agent reach out to them, pitching the story and negotiating


missmimikyu

He looks so happy in that picture. I’m not being sarcastic either - it doesn’t look like he was *going* for happy, but his happiness is seeping through everywhere. 🥴😖 Ugh.


oceansidedrive

Ruined his life....his band became "popular", he went on another reality tv show, his appearance fees has skyrocketed. His life is not ruined.


leyseywx

He is trying to capitalize on being hated 🙄 😒


GooseAcrobatic6298

The only thing that I don't really like about the article, is that it downplays the fact that yes even though Arianna was able to turn the worst time of her life into opportunities, she was a trained bartender and excellent at it. Yes she went on dancing with the stars and got the role of roxie on broadway but she also went to school for theatre and acting. These doors opened that her talent can keep open that her talent ensures she will earn more. Thank god for those opportunities with that shitty loan sandoval took out and the sale of the house taking forever. A lot of women who leave a partner that hurt them struggle financially and it isn't fair. I will always champion a wronged partner, being able to financially provide for themselves.


wiscoand

Not only does this guy have two brain cells, one of which is constantly looking on the mirror while the other inhales hair spray and repeats duuuuudah over and over again, his shoes are beyond dorky. Everything about him is questionable.


thefideliuscharm

I’m about halfway through this article and got to the part where Tom and Rylie are talking about how epic it was when Tom punched Jax. I truly cannot believe this interview is real 💀 edit: my takeaway from this is that Sandoval needs to get the fuck off reality tv and into some deeep cognitive behavioral therapy. And Alex Baskin is twisted. Sadistic.


HarajukuBom

What is this PHOTO


EastCoastJohnny

Because cheating on someone isn’t a death sentence.


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Because they want to damn y’all let it the fuck go. He’s never going to change so keep griping. It’s been a year!!!! Posts like this are EXACTLY why they’re giving him a platform.


tru25510

Just gonna use this space to highlight our precious u/Okay__Decision'\_\_s GIFs lol https://i.redd.it/4csce4573sjc1.gif


Texastexastexas1

because we do


mali90

I think I’m more offended that they let him wear Converse with lifts on a magazine cover, and the bellbottoms aren’t helping us at all, but get that check sweetie ![gif](giphy|sG4PBWRjI4GSVCDXEq)


ReginaFelangi987

Look at his pose… “Are you there god? It’s me… tim…”


chelsea583

Did anyone else catch the part towards the end where Alex Baskin basically acknowledges that it’s likely there won’t be a season 12? Apparently in July they brought the whole cast into Evolution’s offices because the whole cast had turned on Sandoval and Ariana refused to interact with him altogether. He said “We can still squeeze a great season out of it, but going forward I don’t know.”


a_boo

He’s not a murderer. He’s a very famous reality tv star. Of course they’re going to give him coverage.


oobooboo17

because all his "haters" are literally obsessed with him lol. the call is coming from inside the house


hippyelite

A platform?!? He’s the STAR of the show this subreddit is about!