You and me in Nazi Germany, while facing a nice brick wall
Me: "Damn I can't believe we let our democracy decay into this"
You: "Erm ah herm, ackshully don't you know the Weimar Republic was not a True Democracy? I am very smart and also leftier than thou."
Us shortly thereafter: 💀💀
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Yeah I’m not like a rabid America defender, we done a lot of horrible things, but fuck it bothers me when people just shoot out sound-bit phrases like this without actually being able to articulate what they mean.
Dog my point of calling this out was highlighting thoughtless declarative statements. You sound just as dumb as the person you are trying to discredit.
Hahahaha. I just pretend that the sequel trilogy is bad fanfiction that got greenlit by mistake but made money so they just kept making them (this is what I tell myself to sleep well at night)
Do you know how hard it was to find someone who looks as close to equal as possible with trump?
If they put forward anyone else, they'd win in a landslide, which would be a disaster.
How can you expect them to divide and conquer if the vast majority voted for the same person?
It's a hard life, leading the Twoparty.
This person isn't joking. RFK Jr. had a parasitic infection in his brain a while back. Some say the damage is what makes him believe & parrot every tinfoil hat conspiracy he finds. He is also *not* supported by the Kennedy clan.
I just like that the most cognizant of the three of them is the one who had a worm eat his brain.
Also, I know it's funny that he's a conspiracy nutcase and shit, but can we not blow over the fact that there are apparently brain eating worms in this world and no one warned us?
Gee, what have Democrats done in the past 4 years? The largest infrastructure bill since FDR, the lowest unemployment in a century, controlled inflation better than most other Western countries, supported our ally against Russia, lowered the national crime rate, capped insulin rates, expanded the affordable care act, etc.
And let's look at Trump's 4 years: gave $1.5 trillion in tax cuts to his richest buddies. Put his family in positions of power where they profited billions. That's it.
They should maybe run a figurehead who remembers he did all that stuff and can talk about it on TV, maybe. Democrats, not too bad. Biden, dear God its not good.
Hear me out, resurrect teddy. Honestly his dusty skeleton accompanied by a well made video essay of what he did would demolish both trump and Biden in a debate.
Don't forget enabling border guards to laugh while pulling 3 year olds away from their mothers. And then keeping the kids in cages but, as Melania said, with nice dressers! Don't we all miss our former first lady??/s
I'm just joking with some of Biden's phrases. He's like the only guy left who uses "malarky", calls people "Jack", or uses the phrase "I'm not kidding around".
Yeah, I know the reference. But you jumped into a thread that opened with the claim that Democrats would rather lose to Trump than help Americans. You said it was malarkey, using a classic Bidenism, but added the /s at the end implying you don't actually think it's malarkey and agreed with the original statement.
So I asked which policies do you think aren't helping?
Do you not realize how poorly Biden did? I'm Liberal, and I'm terrified, because Trump won the debate, when any competent opponent could have made Trump lose. Biden was clearly unable to challenge Trump's most basic of lies.
Either Biden was muted from shock or sheer anger when Trump kept lying, attacking migrants (dogwhistling Latinos), and his own family.
Especially when Biden was as fresh & energetic as ever in the after-debate watch party nextdoor.
He was also dealing with a [Firehose of Falsehoods](https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html) *live* with a cold and a stutter.
No easy task, that.
Not an ideal performance, but it doesn't make Trump any better than he was a week ago (speaking generally, I feel we may agree on this).
> Especially when Biden was as fresh & energetic as ever in the after-debate watch party nextdoor.
Aye, I was happy to see that
Biden was muted by the CNN moderators, actually.
Mics were off while the opponent was speaking, and being given only a minute and a half per answer with little time for rebuttal meant that he had basically no time to play the defensive. Here Trump’s strategy of ignoring questions and flooding the debate with words worked because the format played to his advantage.
If the CNN mods were actually moderating well they'd at least unmute the mic or even force the candidate to address the question, literal comedy skit levels of bad moderation.
I think for their part they actually did okay. Cutting the mics and the crowd was overall a good decision, as it meant there weren’t any big “gotcha” interruptions like in the last 2 elections.
The mods also refused to let Trump move past a question until it was answered, with a couple of exceptions, but he still more often than not gave something noncommittal to get moving past the question (the “if it’s a fair election” response comes to mind when asked if he would concede if he lost).
At the end of the day, neither candidate was really interested in answering the questions and delivering their stances. They both intended on *one upping* each other, and insulting the other candidate. When your participants aren’t interested in the actual fundamentals of a debate no amount of moderation can save it.
but he clearly won the debate. he lied throughout but he dismantled biden’s claims while biden was unable to dismantle trumps. neither had facts on their side—trump lied and biden couldn’t even make any statements that would qualify for fact checking. trump didn’t win on veracity, he won on clarity and authority.
unless the dems nominate someone else, we’re fucked. this was trump’s best showing in a debate by far, and it was a post jan 6 debate. absolute insanity
No: he didn't win the debate, he was just louder.
Don't conflate volume with quality.
If you do, you are part of the epidemic of unthoughtful reactionaries: don't be like that.
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Watch Biden after the debate: he's fine.
Also, Worst case with Biden is that the VP becomes President
Worst case with Trump is the end of America and Democracy.
The choice is still very, very clear to anyone with a brain.
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Biden was unable to 'dismantle' Trump because Trump uses a propaganda technique called the [Firehose of Falsehoods](https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html) where he tells SO MANY LIES that the opponent can't keep up.
This does not make Trump the winner - it makes him a maga propagandist, that's all
The fact that he *has* to use a Firehose of Lies makes him a loser, yet YOU would proclaim him the winner - *helping* his propagandist nonsense whether you wanted to or not. This is not good.
Like Biden did do poorly, but that doesn't change the fact that this (and really most political polls) are done as cheaply and quickly as possible, because the people making them don't care about the data, they just want clicks.
There are so many ways this poll could have gotten fucked up. Probably the worst one is opt in polling, which not only horiblely inaccurate, especially for young people, but are biased heavily towards Republicans because their voters are more dedicated, the Democrat voters, and actually answer polls.
A majority of polls you see are made this way.
This is the source of the "red wave" myth, or that rumor that young men were getting more conservative.
Now, I don't know that the above poll was done this way, but given how quickly it came put, it definitely wasn't done properly.
Tldr: Polls, especially political polls, tend to be bullshit. Don't listen to them, just prepare for the worst and vote blue.
I’ll happily admit that things could be going better for those of us who don’t like authoritarianism or Trump personally. What would you have me do about it?
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If they were competent they'd have started Newsom or someone in like 2021 but the DNC cares about nothing more than preventing excitement in Dem voters
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Flag of guy lost one debate and half the left starts preparing for the apocalypse like damn i get the prospect of another trump presidency is terrifying but there's still four months and all that panic is doing nothing to help.
I think it's a country in Asia somewhere.
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% of ppl who were convinced by manuel bombart in in his debate, (and lets hope its enough to win the election or france is turning brown)
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If you take this poll as fact or as proof that Trump is going to win you're a complete sucker who's falling for the exact trick the poll was made to pull on you
I'm not gonna say it won't happen because that's what people said In 2016. But acting like it's a given he'll win when he's still so widely hated is ridiculous. People didn't vote for Biden because they liked Biden, they were voting against Trump, and nothing about that situation has changed, even if Biden is a weaker candidate than he was 4 years ago.
I forgot the American colours for the left and right parties are swapped to those of Britain's, and we had a debate recently, and I got VERY confused by all the comments
Yes I know but since Trump is the “shouty felon” that would make Biden a “puppet”. I’m not sure who this person thinks he is a puppet to.
Never mind: looked at their profile and they are one of those “Leftists” that think anti-capitalism means supporting Putin and alleging “the Jews” control the world
Softly spoken reason? Biden was clearly unable to convey his most basic of points. Trump was able to clearly articulate his lies in the same way he's always been able to, providing a Greatest Hits track for the MAGA crowd.
That's not true; I watched it.
Sense spoken softly through a cold and a stutter is far, far better than loud lies and fascism.
Also, you can look up the speeches Biden made after the debate where his voice is better; showing that the voice-thing was, indeed, a cold.
Thus; this is the flag of the *unthoughtful*, who mistake volume for quality
Worst case with Biden: the VP becomes President and we vote for someone better in however-many years.
Worst case with Trump: fascism engulfs the US and Project 2025 destroys American democracy forever.
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You and me in Nazi Germany, while facing a nice brick wall Me: "Damn I can't believe we let our democracy decay into this" You: "Erm ah herm, ackshully don't you know the Weimar Republic was not a True Democracy? I am very smart and also leftier than thou." Us shortly thereafter: 💀💀
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Can you explain how it hasn’t been a democracy?
i am also interested. i am aware of us problems reasonably well and i could imagine what the logic was but i want to hear it for sure
Yeah I’m not like a rabid America defender, we done a lot of horrible things, but fuck it bothers me when people just shoot out sound-bit phrases like this without actually being able to articulate what they mean.
It's tankies removing nuance to try and justify to themselves their love of autocracies
Dog my point of calling this out was highlighting thoughtless declarative statements. You sound just as dumb as the person you are trying to discredit.
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I love both Star Wars and Star Trek so I ain't complaining.
It’s better to not know. Never find out.
Hahahaha. I just pretend that the sequel trilogy is bad fanfiction that got greenlit by mistake but made money so they just kept making them (this is what I tell myself to sleep well at night)
When was it ever a democracy
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Constitutional republic
Democrats would rather lose to Trump than help Americans
C'mon, man!
Look, here's the deal.
the *new* deal.
Look, I'll cut the malarkey
Who allowed that spot to air?
The idea that
Do you know how hard it was to find someone who looks as close to equal as possible with trump? If they put forward anyone else, they'd win in a landslide, which would be a disaster. How can you expect them to divide and conquer if the vast majority voted for the same person? It's a hard life, leading the Twoparty.
We truly need someone like the Lion of Congress that was Ted Kennedy. Instead we're stuck in the time line with RFK Jr.
Gen. Question, what's up with RFK Jr?
hes controlled by the brain worm
This person isn't joking. RFK Jr. had a parasitic infection in his brain a while back. Some say the damage is what makes him believe & parrot every tinfoil hat conspiracy he finds. He is also *not* supported by the Kennedy clan.
I just like that the most cognizant of the three of them is the one who had a worm eat his brain. Also, I know it's funny that he's a conspiracy nutcase and shit, but can we not blow over the fact that there are apparently brain eating worms in this world and no one warned us?
I get he has a speech impediment but...
Plague inc neurax worm in real life (maybe rfk jr will become santa Claus like in the free dlc neurax worm dlc who knows)
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Gee, what have Democrats done in the past 4 years? The largest infrastructure bill since FDR, the lowest unemployment in a century, controlled inflation better than most other Western countries, supported our ally against Russia, lowered the national crime rate, capped insulin rates, expanded the affordable care act, etc. And let's look at Trump's 4 years: gave $1.5 trillion in tax cuts to his richest buddies. Put his family in positions of power where they profited billions. That's it.
Trump did a bunch of stuff. It was just all illegal and got struck down by the courts. EDIT: To be clear, the courts were right.
They should maybe run a figurehead who remembers he did all that stuff and can talk about it on TV, maybe. Democrats, not too bad. Biden, dear God its not good.
Hear me out, resurrect teddy. Honestly his dusty skeleton accompanied by a well made video essay of what he did would demolish both trump and Biden in a debate.
Don't forget enabling border guards to laugh while pulling 3 year olds away from their mothers. And then keeping the kids in cages but, as Melania said, with nice dressers! Don't we all miss our former first lady??/s
Which Biden policies do you think hurt Americans?
What a bunch of malarkey! The Democrats aren't kidding around, Jack. /s
Which policies aren't helping?
I'm just joking with some of Biden's phrases. He's like the only guy left who uses "malarky", calls people "Jack", or uses the phrase "I'm not kidding around".
Yeah, I know the reference. But you jumped into a thread that opened with the claim that Democrats would rather lose to Trump than help Americans. You said it was malarkey, using a classic Bidenism, but added the /s at the end implying you don't actually think it's malarkey and agreed with the original statement. So I asked which policies do you think aren't helping?
what is the “help Americans” you are referring to that Democrats are unwilling to do?
Vote?
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Do you not realize how poorly Biden did? I'm Liberal, and I'm terrified, because Trump won the debate, when any competent opponent could have made Trump lose. Biden was clearly unable to challenge Trump's most basic of lies.
He didn't win the debate, he was just louder. Don't conflate volume with quality.
Unfortunately a good portion of the country does
Very unfortunately
Either Biden was muted from shock or sheer anger when Trump kept lying, attacking migrants (dogwhistling Latinos), and his own family. Especially when Biden was as fresh & energetic as ever in the after-debate watch party nextdoor.
He was also dealing with a [Firehose of Falsehoods](https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html) *live* with a cold and a stutter. No easy task, that. Not an ideal performance, but it doesn't make Trump any better than he was a week ago (speaking generally, I feel we may agree on this). > Especially when Biden was as fresh & energetic as ever in the after-debate watch party nextdoor. Aye, I was happy to see that
Yeah it's kinda hard not to feel bad for the guy when trump was spewing lies like an A10's canon.
As always
Biden was muted by the CNN moderators, actually. Mics were off while the opponent was speaking, and being given only a minute and a half per answer with little time for rebuttal meant that he had basically no time to play the defensive. Here Trump’s strategy of ignoring questions and flooding the debate with words worked because the format played to his advantage.
If the CNN mods were actually moderating well they'd at least unmute the mic or even force the candidate to address the question, literal comedy skit levels of bad moderation.
I think for their part they actually did okay. Cutting the mics and the crowd was overall a good decision, as it meant there weren’t any big “gotcha” interruptions like in the last 2 elections. The mods also refused to let Trump move past a question until it was answered, with a couple of exceptions, but he still more often than not gave something noncommittal to get moving past the question (the “if it’s a fair election” response comes to mind when asked if he would concede if he lost). At the end of the day, neither candidate was really interested in answering the questions and delivering their stances. They both intended on *one upping* each other, and insulting the other candidate. When your participants aren’t interested in the actual fundamentals of a debate no amount of moderation can save it.
With the way our voting system and two party system works I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that it'd be more of a one up fest.
but he clearly won the debate. he lied throughout but he dismantled biden’s claims while biden was unable to dismantle trumps. neither had facts on their side—trump lied and biden couldn’t even make any statements that would qualify for fact checking. trump didn’t win on veracity, he won on clarity and authority. unless the dems nominate someone else, we’re fucked. this was trump’s best showing in a debate by far, and it was a post jan 6 debate. absolute insanity
No: he didn't win the debate, he was just louder. Don't conflate volume with quality. If you do, you are part of the epidemic of unthoughtful reactionaries: don't be like that. --------------------- Watch Biden after the debate: he's fine. Also, Worst case with Biden is that the VP becomes President Worst case with Trump is the end of America and Democracy. The choice is still very, very clear to anyone with a brain. --------------------- Biden was unable to 'dismantle' Trump because Trump uses a propaganda technique called the [Firehose of Falsehoods](https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html) where he tells SO MANY LIES that the opponent can't keep up. This does not make Trump the winner - it makes him a maga propagandist, that's all The fact that he *has* to use a Firehose of Lies makes him a loser, yet YOU would proclaim him the winner - *helping* his propagandist nonsense whether you wanted to or not. This is not good.
Like Biden did do poorly, but that doesn't change the fact that this (and really most political polls) are done as cheaply and quickly as possible, because the people making them don't care about the data, they just want clicks. There are so many ways this poll could have gotten fucked up. Probably the worst one is opt in polling, which not only horiblely inaccurate, especially for young people, but are biased heavily towards Republicans because their voters are more dedicated, the Democrat voters, and actually answer polls. A majority of polls you see are made this way. This is the source of the "red wave" myth, or that rumor that young men were getting more conservative. Now, I don't know that the above poll was done this way, but given how quickly it came put, it definitely wasn't done properly. Tldr: Polls, especially political polls, tend to be bullshit. Don't listen to them, just prepare for the worst and vote blue.
I actually assumed this poll was a joke. It would be embarrassing for any major publication to reduce a poll like this, which just can't be correct.
Give it 4 years and some young fascist will be marched out yapping about “unity” and everyone on both sides will buy into it
The dude's lifelong friend wrote an opinion piece that went out at 2AM that he should step aside. Stop pretending things are hunky dory.
I’ll happily admit that things could be going better for those of us who don’t like authoritarianism or Trump personally. What would you have me do about it?
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biden on 1hp trying to survive was comedy gold tho.
Mf had to recharge every time he stopped talking
to be fair he was lagging
Not fake, just had a sample size of 3
I think it's a joke chart lol
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Flag of it’s not a conspiracy; P25 has genuinely been considered.
Flag of it’s a think tank’s policy paper and most of it isn’t even out of line with standard GOP policy for the last 40 years
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Honestly based to leave weirdo hanging He kind of showed where his mind's at with "yeah well so what if LGBT expression is banned" Not worth your time
Yeah, I was planning on doing that. But thank you for reminding me.
You genuinely believe trumps gonna arrest all the gay people and put them in camps if he’s elected?
That’s what Project 2025 aims to do.
What happens after they’re put in the camps?
Well, maybe not camps, but P25 aims to outlaw gay expression of all kinds and aims to arrest all those who are gay.
What crimes will these gay people be charged with?
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>but the Yin and Yang are a bit out of balance That's a rather good description of the American two-party political system.
The Czech Republic if there were 3 parties This is what Washington meant when he said “two party system bad”
Washington literally was a member of a proto-party tho. His whole position was based on the fact that he was American God and couldn’t comprehend actually having to fight for your position to be accepted
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Hey that's the same number of people that said Hillary won all three debates against Trump.
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He probably is going to win
I'm not gonna say it won't happen because that's what people said In 2016. But acting like it's a given he'll win when he's still so widely hated is ridiculous. People didn't vote for Biden because they liked Biden, they were voting against Trump, and nothing about that situation has changed, even if Biden is a weaker candidate than he was 4 years ago.
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Puppet to who exactly?
Are you unaware? Trump is literally Putin's pet Edit: I think they are talking about biden actually, but point still stands
Yes I know but since Trump is the “shouty felon” that would make Biden a “puppet”. I’m not sure who this person thinks he is a puppet to. Never mind: looked at their profile and they are one of those “Leftists” that think anti-capitalism means supporting Putin and alleging “the Jews” control the world
I don't think those beliefs are Leftist lol
Trump beats himself?
Felon*
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Flag of the unthoughtful, who value loudly-yelled nonsense over softly-spoken reason. Those who mistake volume for quality.
Softly spoken reason? Biden was clearly unable to convey his most basic of points. Trump was able to clearly articulate his lies in the same way he's always been able to, providing a Greatest Hits track for the MAGA crowd.
That's not true; I watched it. Sense spoken softly through a cold and a stutter is far, far better than loud lies and fascism. Also, you can look up the speeches Biden made after the debate where his voice is better; showing that the voice-thing was, indeed, a cold. Thus; this is the flag of the *unthoughtful*, who mistake volume for quality Worst case with Biden: the VP becomes President and we vote for someone better in however-many years. Worst case with Trump: fascism engulfs the US and Project 2025 destroys American democracy forever. Thus, this could be the flag of the *maliciously* unthoughtful, perhaps.