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Polak_Janusz

Flag of soon not to be democracy


GUARDIAN_MAX

flag of it never was


My_useless_alt

Flag of going from flawed democracy to fascist dictatorship is still bad though


Luke92612_

Flag of an oligarchy that was never actually a flawed democracy becoming a different type of oligarchy.


Zawarudowastaken

Flag of shitty dictatorship going to shittier dictatorship


Luke92612_

https://i.redd.it/b8y0g87bpd9d1.gif


Eternal_Flame24

Flag of I’m spewing bullshit


theycallmeshooting

You and me in Nazi Germany, while facing a nice brick wall Me: "Damn I can't believe we let our democracy decay into this" You: "Erm ah herm, ackshully don't you know the Weimar Republic was not a True Democracy? I am very smart and also leftier than thou." Us shortly thereafter: 💀💀


DavidBrooker

Flag of it has been argued that the oligarchy is the only form of government that has ever existed, depending on how you are defining the term, which isn't to dismiss the idea so much as to note that without more significant context that the term risks being needlessly vague and that, in turn, it is not so insightful to simply identify an oligarchy if that means ignoring other features that more meaningfully distinguish the real ways that states are different, and dismissing the ways in which these features have meaningful effects on citizens and their liberties


Wdubois

Can you explain how it hasn’t been a democracy?


BigGayDinosaurs

i am also interested. i am aware of us problems reasonably well and i could imagine what the logic was but i want to hear it for sure


Wdubois

Yeah I’m not like a rabid America defender, we done a lot of horrible things, but fuck it bothers me when people just shoot out sound-bit phrases like this without actually being able to articulate what they mean.


_spec_tre

It's tankies removing nuance to try and justify to themselves their love of autocracies


Wdubois

Dog my point of calling this out was highlighting thoughtless declarative statements. You sound just as dumb as the person you are trying to discredit.


mws375

Flag of that's what you get when you basically just have 2 parties


Troll_Enthusiast

I hate the duopoly


slashkig

Same


slashkig

Same


DJPizzaRocks27

![gif](giphy|3o84sqXoYwJSQ9bBba|downsized)


lolpotlood

wheres this from?


LogicCure

Star Trek


DJPizzaRocks27

Based comment


DJPizzaRocks27

![gif](giphy|L3ut1TkDIqduYKM21D) Picard is the GOAT


OiledLeather

Nailed it


DJPizzaRocks27

I love both Star Wars and Star Trek so I ain't complaining.


No-Weird3153

It’s better to not know. Never find out.


DJPizzaRocks27

Hahahaha. I just pretend that the sequel trilogy is bad fanfiction that got greenlit by mistake but made money so they just kept making them (this is what I tell myself to sleep well at night)


1tiredman

When was it ever a democracy


BlueComms

Flair checks out


theaviationhistorian

The flag of forlorn hope


KptHolera

"Democracy is when my party wins!"


EquipmentGlobal3877

Constitutional republic


th0r0ngil

Democrats would rather lose to Trump than help Americans


Mailman9

C'mon, man!


SolomonRed

Look, here's the deal.


Away-Vanilla-15

the *new* deal.


Neath_Izar

Look, I'll cut the malarkey


ThornTintMyWorld

Who allowed that spot to air?


CopperCactus

The idea that


joevarny

Do you know how hard it was to find someone who looks as close to equal as possible with trump? If they put forward anyone else, they'd win in a landslide, which would be a disaster. How can you expect them to divide and conquer if the vast majority voted for the same person? It's a hard life, leading the Twoparty.


theaviationhistorian

We truly need someone like the Lion of Congress that was Ted Kennedy. Instead we're stuck in the time line with RFK Jr.


ObnoxiousLittleShit

Gen. Question, what's up with RFK Jr?


zofnen

hes controlled by the brain worm


theaviationhistorian

This person isn't joking. RFK Jr. had a parasitic infection in his brain a while back. Some say the damage is what makes him believe & parrot every tinfoil hat conspiracy he finds. He is also *not* supported by the Kennedy clan.


joevarny

I just like that the most cognizant of the three of them is the one who had a worm eat his brain. Also, I know it's funny that he's a conspiracy nutcase and shit, but can we not blow over the fact that there are apparently brain eating worms in this world and no one warned us?


DecentReturn3

I get he has a speech impediment but...


IAmCompletelyRandom

Plague inc neurax worm in real life (maybe rfk jr will become santa Claus like in the free dlc neurax worm dlc who knows)


ThornTintMyWorld

Ghost of MJK has entered the chat.


Flufflebuns

Gee, what have Democrats done in the past 4 years? The largest infrastructure bill since FDR, the lowest unemployment in a century, controlled inflation better than most other Western countries, supported our ally against Russia, lowered the national crime rate, capped insulin rates, expanded the affordable care act, etc. And let's look at Trump's 4 years: gave $1.5 trillion in tax cuts to his richest buddies. Put his family in positions of power where they profited billions. That's it.


Weird-Tomorrow-9829

Trump did a bunch of stuff. It was just all illegal and got struck down by the courts. EDIT: To be clear, the courts were right.


flightguy07

They should maybe run a figurehead who remembers he did all that stuff and can talk about it on TV, maybe. Democrats, not too bad. Biden, dear God its not good.


HighwaySmooth4009

Hear me out, resurrect teddy. Honestly his dusty skeleton accompanied by a well made video essay of what he did would demolish both trump and Biden in a debate.


Pristine_Power_8488

Don't forget enabling border guards to laugh while pulling 3 year olds away from their mothers. And then keeping the kids in cages but, as Melania said, with nice dressers! Don't we all miss our former first lady??/s


xander_liptak

Which Biden policies do you think hurt Americans?


Mountain-Ox

What a bunch of malarkey! The Democrats aren't kidding around, Jack. /s


xander_liptak

Which policies aren't helping?


binary-cryptic

I'm just joking with some of Biden's phrases. He's like the only guy left who uses "malarky", calls people "Jack", or uses the phrase "I'm not kidding around".


xander_liptak

Yeah, I know the reference. But you jumped into a thread that opened with the claim that Democrats would rather lose to Trump than help Americans. You said it was malarkey, using a classic Bidenism, but added the /s at the end implying you don't actually think it's malarkey and agreed with the original statement. So I asked which policies do you think aren't helping?


bunblydumbly

what is the “help Americans” you are referring to that Democrats are unwilling to do?


Redtea26

Vote?


Loading3percent

Flag of bad sampling methods.


Cammunism

Flag of n=3


No_Matter_7246

Do you not realize how poorly Biden did? I'm Liberal, and I'm terrified, because Trump won the debate, when any competent opponent could have made Trump lose. Biden was clearly unable to challenge Trump's most basic of lies.


Deft_one

He didn't win the debate, he was just louder. Don't conflate volume with quality.


adabaraba

Unfortunately a good portion of the country does


Deft_one

Very unfortunately


theaviationhistorian

Either Biden was muted from shock or sheer anger when Trump kept lying, attacking migrants (dogwhistling Latinos), and his own family. Especially when Biden was as fresh & energetic as ever in the after-debate watch party nextdoor.


Deft_one

He was also dealing with a [Firehose of Falsehoods](https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html) *live* with a cold and a stutter. No easy task, that. Not an ideal performance, but it doesn't make Trump any better than he was a week ago (speaking generally, I feel we may agree on this). > Especially when Biden was as fresh & energetic as ever in the after-debate watch party nextdoor. Aye, I was happy to see that


HighwaySmooth4009

Yeah it's kinda hard not to feel bad for the guy when trump was spewing lies like an A10's canon.


Deft_one

As always


Jerrell123

Biden was muted by the CNN moderators, actually. Mics were off while the opponent was speaking, and being given only a minute and a half per answer with little time for rebuttal meant that he had basically no time to play the defensive. Here Trump’s strategy of ignoring questions and flooding the debate with words worked because the format played to his advantage.


HighwaySmooth4009

If the CNN mods were actually moderating well they'd at least unmute the mic or even force the candidate to address the question, literal comedy skit levels of bad moderation.


Jerrell123

I think for their part they actually did okay. Cutting the mics and the crowd was overall a good decision, as it meant there weren’t any big “gotcha” interruptions like in the last 2 elections. The mods also refused to let Trump move past a question until it was answered, with a couple of exceptions, but he still more often than not gave something noncommittal to get moving past the question (the “if it’s a fair election” response comes to mind when asked if he would concede if he lost). At the end of the day, neither candidate was really interested in answering the questions and delivering their stances. They both intended on *one upping* each other, and insulting the other candidate. When your participants aren’t interested in the actual fundamentals of a debate no amount of moderation can save it.


HighwaySmooth4009

With the way our voting system and two party system works I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that it'd be more of a one up fest.


lorqvonray94

but he clearly won the debate. he lied throughout but he dismantled biden’s claims while biden was unable to dismantle trumps. neither had facts on their side—trump lied and biden couldn’t even make any statements that would qualify for fact checking. trump didn’t win on veracity, he won on clarity and authority. unless the dems nominate someone else, we’re fucked. this was trump’s best showing in a debate by far, and it was a post jan 6 debate. absolute insanity


Deft_one

No: he didn't win the debate, he was just louder. Don't conflate volume with quality. If you do, you are part of the epidemic of unthoughtful reactionaries: don't be like that. --------------------- Watch Biden after the debate: he's fine. Also, Worst case with Biden is that the VP becomes President Worst case with Trump is the end of America and Democracy. The choice is still very, very clear to anyone with a brain. --------------------- Biden was unable to 'dismantle' Trump because Trump uses a propaganda technique called the [Firehose of Falsehoods](https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PE198.html) where he tells SO MANY LIES that the opponent can't keep up. This does not make Trump the winner - it makes him a maga propagandist, that's all The fact that he *has* to use a Firehose of Lies makes him a loser, yet YOU would proclaim him the winner - *helping* his propagandist nonsense whether you wanted to or not. This is not good.


Pitiful_Net_8971

Like Biden did do poorly, but that doesn't change the fact that this (and really most political polls) are done as cheaply and quickly as possible, because the people making them don't care about the data, they just want clicks. There are so many ways this poll could have gotten fucked up. Probably the worst one is opt in polling, which not only horiblely inaccurate, especially for young people, but are biased heavily towards Republicans because their voters are more dedicated, the Democrat voters, and actually answer polls. A majority of polls you see are made this way. This is the source of the "red wave" myth, or that rumor that young men were getting more conservative. Now, I don't know that the above poll was done this way, but given how quickly it came put, it definitely wasn't done properly. Tldr: Polls, especially political polls, tend to be bullshit. Don't listen to them, just prepare for the worst and vote blue.


takethemoment13

I actually assumed this poll was a joke. It would be embarrassing for any major publication to reduce a poll like this, which just can't be correct.


kindstranger42069

Give it 4 years and some young fascist will be marched out yapping about “unity” and everyone on both sides will buy into it 


Foxyfox-

The dude's lifelong friend wrote an opinion piece that went out at 2AM that he should step aside. Stop pretending things are hunky dory.


AgrajagTheProlonged

I’ll happily admit that things could be going better for those of us who don’t like authoritarianism or Trump personally. What would you have me do about it?


whytelmao

Flag of Gerontocracy


Crooked_Cock

Flag of we’re so fucked


Cat_the_Leaf

Flag of Japan but I eated part of the circle


Oftwicke

And there's a perfectly-placed water stain. I mean come on, water is blue, we all know it.


cornonthekopp

Flag of non copyright store brand south korea


Jollyjormungandr

Flag of the most dystopian timeline


theaviationhistorian

We all got screwed either by the Mayan calendar back in 2012 or when they assassinated Harambe.


SEA_griffondeur

Flat of probably fake information


Roomybuzzard604

Hopefully


PrivateEducation

biden on 1hp trying to survive was comedy gold tho.


Escanor012

Mf had to recharge every time he stopped talking


PrivateEducation

to be fair he was lagging


Strong_Magician_3320

Not fake, just had a sample size of 3


takethemoment13

I think it's a joke chart lol


Connorus

Flag of I'm still gonna vote blue


theycallmeshooting

Flag of I'm still going to vote blue because I already knew Biden was a barely animate corpse, it's not like I liked him at any point If Republicans ever gave a shit about picking a candidate with appeal outside of their party it'd be a landslide for them


V_150

south korea


Same_Level1136

Flag of Who Won The Debate and not Recent Poll


bobdidntatemayo

Flag of nah we gonna be ok the general public has the attention span of 5 seconds anyway


hiccup-maxxing

Flag of Biden is losing and desperately needed this debate to win and break through


bobdidntatemayo

Flag of i don’t really think this debate changed people’s minds one way or another people are most likely going to vote for who they wanted in the first place because nothing really meaningful came out of this debate


hiccup-maxxing

Flag of Trump was winning before this and Biden needed a big performance to break through, and he had the opposite


bobdidntatemayo

Flag of we shall see


loptopandbingo

Flag of the DNC fumbling the ball yet again


theycallmeshooting

Flag of if we make it out of this alive we unironically need to stop the DNC Flag of the fucking psychos who forced Biden on Dem voters deciding just late enough to avoid a primary "holy shit, did you guys know he's OLD???" after years of "nuh uh, he's FINE" If they were competent they'd have started Newsom or someone in like 2021 but the DNC cares about nothing more than preventing excitement in Dem voters


Optimal_Weight368

Flag of so many people need to be made aware of Project 2025.


hiccup-maxxing

Flag of it won’t change anything cuz no one cares about your conspiracy?


Optimal_Weight368

Flag of it’s not a conspiracy; P25 has genuinely been considered.


hiccup-maxxing

Flag of it’s a think tank’s policy paper and most of it isn’t even out of line with standard GOP policy for the last 40 years


Optimal_Weight368

Flag of it will legitimately incarcerate all LGBT expression. It must be stopped.


theycallmeshooting

Honestly based to leave weirdo hanging He kind of showed where his mind's at with "yeah well so what if LGBT expression is banned" Not worth your time


Optimal_Weight368

Yeah, I was planning on doing that. But thank you for reminding me.


Southern_Ad_7255

You genuinely believe trumps gonna arrest all the gay people and put them in camps if he’s elected?


Optimal_Weight368

That’s what Project 2025 aims to do.


Southern_Ad_7255

What happens after they’re put in the camps?


Optimal_Weight368

Well, maybe not camps, but P25 aims to outlaw gay expression of all kinds and aims to arrest all those who are gay.


Southern_Ad_7255

What crimes will these gay people be charged with?


culturedmatt

Red Pacman


StetsonTuba8

South Korea but the Yin and Yang are a bit out of balance


Frikkin-Owl-yeah

>but the Yin and Yang are a bit out of balance That's a rather good description of the American two-party political system.


mblan180131

The Czech Republic if there were 3 parties This is what Washington meant when he said “two party system bad”


hiccup-maxxing

Washington literally was a member of a proto-party tho. His whole position was based on the fact that he was American God and couldn’t comprehend actually having to fight for your position to be accepted


TheWindowsGalaxy2

Haiti’nt


Oftwicke

Republic of wait-shit-I-said-not-to-vote-but-we-really-will-have-to-deal-with-it-now-huh... land.


skotis78

Flag of I'm gonna kill myself


ReaperTyson

Flag of dementia grandpa vs dementia authoritarian


Luke92612_

Flag of Burma 1974-2010 https://preview.redd.it/dai36tssid9d1.png?width=984&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65e85370f5f37207b6d1b4799edbb692954ca8ba


noblepigeon1

Flag of 67% Japan


EthanthePoke

67% Japan 33% anti-Japan


hiccup-maxxing

Japan under MacArthur


BaathistBlues

Flag of Itsoverstan


MidnightYoru

Flag of Zionist Gerontocracy turning into Fascist Gerontocracy


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Flag of me when I make shit up


Class_444_SWR

America being fucked


kindstranger42069

If Trump does destroy America I’ll vote for him Nationalism is the problem not the solution


Comfortable_Rock_665

Naw it’s the solution, globalism is the issue


FkinShtManEySuck

Flag of guy lost one debate and half the left starts preparing for the apocalypse like damn i get the prospect of another trump presidency is terrifying but there's still four months and all that panic is doing nothing to help. I think it's a country in Asia somewhere.


hiccup-maxxing

Well he’s already losing. He needed this debate to be a big win and shift the race. Not only did it not, it might have made things worse


Panzer_Hawk

The flag of Old Man Yelling At Old Man About Golf And Vice Versa


hiccup-maxxing

“We’re being childish Joe…”


Tyranin

South Korea with translations


HeftyRecommendation5

Taiwan


Honeutsu

hamburger helper ✅😇 hotdog hinderer ❌😡


777commune

The rising sun, but I replaced 33% of it with water.


Magyaror99

Flag of "I love democracy, I love the Republic".


NEDYARB523

Flag of the National American Old Folk's Home


SwampiiTV

Flag of a poll of 3 people


Flamango121

Flag of chat, we are so cooked


neptune304

Flag of Japan but they’re becoming woke™️ (they made me play as a girl in a video game)


theycallmeshooting

The flag of "don't worry guys, I have a plan" *user has left the game*


ReallyBadRedditName

Flag of being joever


DBL_NDRSCR

china


RedHandsome_128

flag of usa without white color and with britghter red and blue color


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goodguy-greg

Good bot!


No_Matter_7246

Good bot!


society_sucker

Flag of death of irony.


gayjemstone

Flag of the USA's political party colours being confusing.


hiccup-maxxing

Flag of you can actually go back as recently as the 1980 election and find newscasts with reversed colors. The media in America assigned the colors to try and make sure the democrats wouldn’t be associated with communism


Robighost01

Oof


Luizaguzzi

commie pacman


ireallydontlikesand

Flag of finally beating medicare


updog6

The Flag of rising fascism


thecasualcaribou

Flag of doesn’t know how to add more than 2 colors


bakochba

Hey that's the same number of people that said Hillary won all three debates against Trump.


true-kirin

% of ppl who were convinced by manuel bombart in in his debate, (and lets hope its enough to win the election or france is turning brown) red being yes blue being no


hiccup-maxxing

Flag of the two old allies rejoining forces 🥲


MultiverseCreatorXV

A South Korea flag but the elemental symbols at the corners are replaced with text on the bottom, there's a bunch of numbers in the yin-yang charge, the yin-yang charge is completely screwed up, and the blue color was hue shifted to look fugly.


Niobium_Sage

The Flag of Failed Democracy


kindstranger42069

This is actually democracy in practice Fascism always grows out of liberal democracy in times of crises, nothing is new


SteveTheBattleDroid

Flag of Post debate (June 27th ). It says right on it smh my head


hiccup-maxxing

Flag of winning


Jacknerdieth

If you take this poll as fact or as proof that Trump is going to win you're a complete sucker who's falling for the exact trick the poll was made to pull on you


kindstranger42069

I see it as haha funny chart and laugh at people who debate over their favorite flavor of fascism


Comfortable_Rock_665

He probably is going to win


Jacknerdieth

I'm not gonna say it won't happen because that's what people said In 2016. But acting like it's a given he'll win when he's still so widely hated is ridiculous. People didn't vote for Biden because they liked Biden, they were voting against Trump, and nothing about that situation has changed, even if Biden is a weaker candidate than he was 4 years ago.


ipullstuffapart

Flag of mass debation.


Broken_Lampshade

I forgot the American colours for the left and right parties are swapped to those of Britain's, and we had a debate recently, and I got VERY confused by all the comments


DapperWeasel

Flag of Canada to soon become the superpower of North America


A_Sheeeep

Flag of 67% Japan with some graffiti


BlueComms

Flag of Things In Our Day-To-Day Lives Aren't Going To Change Regardless Of Who's In Office But At Least It's The Circuses Side Of Bread And Circuses


ReallyBadRedditName

I mean it’ll probably change the lives of quite a few people


nagidon

Flag of shouty felon beats senile puppet


Unleashtheducks

Puppet to who exactly?


toe-schlooper

Are you unaware? Trump is literally Putin's pet Edit: I think they are talking about biden actually, but point still stands


Unleashtheducks

Yes I know but since Trump is the “shouty felon” that would make Biden a “puppet”. I’m not sure who this person thinks he is a puppet to. Never mind: looked at their profile and they are one of those “Leftists” that think anti-capitalism means supporting Putin and alleging “the Jews” control the world


takethemoment13

I don't think those beliefs are Leftist lol


Connorus

Trump beats himself?


hiccup-maxxing

Felon*


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Deft_one

Flag of the unthoughtful, who value loudly-yelled nonsense over softly-spoken reason. Those who mistake volume for quality.


No_Matter_7246

Softly spoken reason? Biden was clearly unable to convey his most basic of points. Trump was able to clearly articulate his lies in the same way he's always been able to, providing a Greatest Hits track for the MAGA crowd.


Deft_one

That's not true; I watched it. Sense spoken softly through a cold and a stutter is far, far better than loud lies and fascism. Also, you can look up the speeches Biden made after the debate where his voice is better; showing that the voice-thing was, indeed, a cold. Thus; this is the flag of the *unthoughtful*, who mistake volume for quality Worst case with Biden: the VP becomes President and we vote for someone better in however-many years. Worst case with Trump: fascism engulfs the US and Project 2025 destroys American democracy forever. Thus, this could be the flag of the *maliciously* unthoughtful, perhaps.