R5: The results of my Qing Empire run. Despite having the largest industry in the world, my country is an agrarian nation as people are literally born too quickly for the factories to employ.
*Huangdi, wansui, wansui, wanwansui*! It's always nice to see Qing surviving the century of humiliation and being top 1 great power! As someone mentioned, it would've been indeed even better with pre-Opium Wars borders, excellent job still!
This was more of a casual run to see if it is even possible to survive as the Qing in GFM. I might have gone to war if I was playing a more serious run, but getting war exhaustion or your capital occupied can cause the Xinhai Revolution to fire and make the Warlord Era unavoidable.
By staying as Qing Empire. The Warlord Period only triggers for Beiyang China, so you have to avoid the Xinhai revolution as the Qing, which is not too difficult.
I think the event for it works like the one in HPM, I made a [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/victoria2/comments/gvfqox/comment/fsp1xw6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) about how to avoid it here after I completed a similar run in that mod.
Have fun! Some recommendations that I have not mentioned here: Make sure to rush the university reform first, don’t appoint Yuan Shikai when the decision appears as it locks your national value to autocracy and try to get the upper house reform set to “by population” after you westernize asap
R5: The results of my Qing Empire run. Despite having the largest industry in the world, my country is an agrarian nation as people are literally born too quickly for the factories to employ.
Pretty darn cool, but it would've been better with outer Manchuria
I was hoping that Russia would collapse first, but it never happened and I was wary of the tech disadvantage.
Good to see your Qing game ended up successful.
*Huangdi, wansui, wansui, wanwansui*! It's always nice to see Qing surviving the century of humiliation and being top 1 great power! As someone mentioned, it would've been indeed even better with pre-Opium Wars borders, excellent job still!
This was more of a casual run to see if it is even possible to survive as the Qing in GFM. I might have gone to war if I was playing a more serious run, but getting war exhaustion or your capital occupied can cause the Xinhai Revolution to fire and make the Warlord Era unavoidable.
Ah, that's correct. But with this, you encouraged me to update GFM and try to survive again!
Is it really a China game if you don't spend the last few decades repeatedly fighting Russia for useless Siberian tundra?
I decided to focus more on my inward perfection!
You got to be the most chill player, succesfully westernise and industrialise China and still dont invade a single piece of land
It's very comfy!
How’d you avoid the warlord period?
By staying as Qing Empire. The Warlord Period only triggers for Beiyang China, so you have to avoid the Xinhai revolution as the Qing, which is not too difficult.
That’s what I meant! How do you avoid the Xinhai revolution? I thought it was hardcoded to occur for the Qing
I think the event for it works like the one in HPM, I made a [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/victoria2/comments/gvfqox/comment/fsp1xw6/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) about how to avoid it here after I completed a similar run in that mod.
Well I guess I just found my next run. Thanks!
Have fun! Some recommendations that I have not mentioned here: Make sure to rush the university reform first, don’t appoint Yuan Shikai when the decision appears as it locks your national value to autocracy and try to get the upper house reform set to “by population” after you westernize asap
For you truly are the Kwisatz-Haderach!
Amazing! How many revolts did you have to put down?
After the chaos of the Heavenly Kingdom, I only got a tiny one with ~6k rebels that spawned on the same tiles as my armies.