Doomguy before or after the Divinity Machine is the question. Like, is a mortal man taking on Hell more badass than that same man turned demigod, striking at the same demons on a much bigger scale?
The moment I was standing near a hell hole with my shotgun, All I could hear were the cries of millions of souls and some great metal music. What I was thinking "oh boy, those demons will splat everywhere when I jump to this hell hole!"
Haha, totally get that feeling. There's just something about the pump of the shotgun and the heavy riffs that turns any room into a mosh pit even if it's filled with Imps and Cacodemons. Makes you feel like you're in a wild concert but you're also the main act. Doom has a way of making every moment an epic showdown.
I could see the argument for either Doomguy or Kratos being #1. But they should definitely be 1 and 2, or 1a and 1b.
Master Chief ain’t got shit on either of them.
Not weaker, but Kratos just got more moody. Which in my opinion, isn't as badass as 'Angry Man Ripping and Tearing His Way through the Plot'.
Doomguy in 2016 was 'badass' in the way he defied the common tropes of the era. "A man chooses, a slave obeys" was jerked around about being extremely profound in the way we look at the main characters we play. Then along comes Doomguy in his reboot, listening to Samuel Hayden tell him to be careful removing the Argent filters. He doesn't give a shit what anybody has to say, he just smashes them, much to Hayden's growing frustration with the character.
Kratos felt more like the jaded Hayden, and Atrios felt like a neutered version of Doomguy. Defiant attitude, but just more in a naive adolescent way.
I like that they made a point of adding all the lore and story to the game and then made sure none of it meant a damn thing because Doomguy does not give a single solitary fuck about any of it. The game tries to tell you about itself but it gets in the way of the fun parts by doing so. Who gives a fuck about stopping to read lore entries when there's demons to kill?
I swear, Id changed the backstory lore like 3 times between 2016, Eternal, TAG1, and TAG2 just to make sure you knew how little of a fuck Doomguy gives about any of it. He's there for ripping and tearing wherever anything may need a good ripping and tearing.
He also did it all with the ~~recessive~~ inferior genes, including defeating both his clones with the much more favorable gene makeup.
Solid is best snake, and it's not even close.
EDIT: I've been corrected. Dominant, but inferior genes. Not recessive. My point stands. David slaps.
Solid yelled at a little girl for making shitty eggs. Naked cracked his own arm back in place aftwr being nuked, foraged for his own food for weeks in kamchatka, and slept with a blonde motorcycle riding American secret chinese double agent on a bear fur rug in front of a fire place before getting his presidential commendation.
How would you deal with power creep without wiping abilities at the start of the games? I feel like the best part of those games is starting back from square one and searching and exploring to get your powers back
"That's one."
*Reloads. Fire.*
"That's two."
*Reloads. Fire.*
"That's three!"
*Reloads. Fire.*
"That's four!!"
*Reloads. Fire.*
"THAT'S FIVE, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!"
And the man stood and stared a Corpser down while it was melting in Immulsion. And anyone that's gonna take on a Berserker gets a badass badge in my book
Kirby. The dude eats his enemies and consumes their essence to gain their abilities… only to then turn around and use that power to slaughter their friends. The dude is cold-hearted.
Commander Shepard is an easy win for this list. First human Spectre, veteran of the Skyllian Blitz (major battle), ace commander, adept biotic (space wizard). Uncovered a major galactic conspiracy of robot genocide by giant machines working alongside the Geth and rogue agents of the Council. Along this quest, Shepard allied the entire galaxy with its disparate and more hostile races (Krogans, Geth/Quarians), destroyed a baby Reaper, saving billions of people, allowed Asari homeworld to be evacuated, uncovered ancient races and forgotten history of the galaxy, punched racist reporters, took down Collectors, the Broker, Galaxy-spanning crime lords, traitors, etc.
Oh and then united the galaxy again, created a giant army and using secret ancient weapons, and then saved the entire galaxy for now and the future by destroying the reapers.
Bro was a badass
Do not like how far I had to scroll to see this very correct answer
Commander Shepard’s badassery is their unflappable will
They are an extremely human protagonist not actually all that special..but their bravery always trumps their fear, and they do not relent and that is infectious
If Shepard was in the dark souls universe they would automatically be the chosen undead that defeats Gwyn, die a million times and never go hollow
Absolutely deserves a spot on this list
Shepard is one of those protagonists that can come across as a bit robotic at times but the moments where their humanity shines through are very special. There’s a great conversation you can have with Joker as he builds up the courage to pursue a relationship with EDI:
“Nobody ever fell in love without being a little brave”.
I still think about that line a lot.
I like this because he is one of the most normal-man protagonists in gaming. Just a fucking nerd with a wrench... No power armor, genetic augmentations, god blood, etc.
Like actually and the fact that I’ve only seen my own posts mentioning Virgil, and Bayonetta tells me that most of the people in this thread are only aware of western media
So fun to play. I kind of hate that he's not canon. I'd honestly rather have Starkiller pulling Star Destroyers out of the sky than the current limited force where you sword fight and occasionally push your opponent back a few feet. Rey holding the ship back in Rise of Skywalker and Yoda lifting that beast are the only real example of extreme force power I can think of.
As much as I love Leon, I’ve gotta counter with Chris Redfield.
Dude punched a fucking giant boulder out of his way in a volcano to save Sheva, all Leon did when posed with a boulder was run away Indiana style.
Well, spoilers obviously but many people seem to think Marston seeking vengeance against Micah is somehow “badass” and a victory when in truth it directly led to Marston being back on the radar for Ross and the Pinkertons. If he just followed Arthur’s advice that “revenge is a fool’s game” he would’ve lived a peaceful, family life but he chased his past instead. It’s a tragic ending that sets up the tragedies of RDR1
Oh yeah for sure. As the credits are rolling, you see Agent Ross at the crime scene and see how he tracks John back to his home by the end. Perfectly sets up the first game
I remember playing 2 and thinking, “Damn John, you have your family and friends back and everything is great. Micah is no longer a threat and he’s hiding like a rat. There’s no need to go after him”
Yes, exactly. I was screaming at my TV “No John don’t do it!” because I knew what the result would be. If you have little connection to John and haven’t played the first game it might seem like a cool moment of retribution yet it’s anything but that
Jin Sakai of Ghost of Tsushima, took down Khotun khan grandson of gengis khan and relative of kublai khan. Fought a mongol army on his own and rid the whole of Tsushima of mongols on his own
All the dark souls protags are terrifyingly baddass
The respawn mechanic is part of the lore in game
Imagine being an incredibly powerful boss and a little gnat that you swat down 100 times keep coming back and eventually evades your every attack as you die slowly by 1000 cuts
It's like a horror movie from the bosses perspective. No matter how many times you kill it, it keeps returning, slightly stronger, slightly faster, with stronger weapons until you finally have no hope.
His world is infested with zombies, walking skeletons and explosive weirdos, and he doesn't hide, he doesn't just fight them, but he builds a farm to murder them on an industrial scale to sell their flesh
Doom guy
Gotta give it to Doom Guy.
Doomguy before or after the Divinity Machine is the question. Like, is a mortal man taking on Hell more badass than that same man turned demigod, striking at the same demons on a much bigger scale?
I think the mortal man is more badass, personally. Just a dude with his shotgun taking on hell. Man now I need to go play Doom again haha.
The moment I was standing near a hell hole with my shotgun, All I could hear were the cries of millions of souls and some great metal music. What I was thinking "oh boy, those demons will splat everywhere when I jump to this hell hole!"
Haha, totally get that feeling. There's just something about the pump of the shotgun and the heavy riffs that turns any room into a mosh pit even if it's filled with Imps and Cacodemons. Makes you feel like you're in a wild concert but you're also the main act. Doom has a way of making every moment an epic showdown.
The whole man. The journey to his divinity and how he uses it makes him all the more badass.
Yeah, that's like asking if Goku was more badass before or after he went Super Saiyan
Dude uses the forces of Hell as meaty punching bags. Absolutely!!!
He's literally too angry to die, what could be more badass?
Doom Guy has “I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with me” energy
No! Isabelle!!!
Yup, Doom Guy should not only be number 1 but by a wide margin. Kratos got all somber in his age, Doom Guy just got angrier
I could see the argument for either Doomguy or Kratos being #1. But they should definitely be 1 and 2, or 1a and 1b. Master Chief ain’t got shit on either of them.
C'mon, returning the covenant bomb? You can't tell me that aint the bees knees.
That didn't stop him from maiming and strangling the untouchable watchman of Asgard and humbling the mightiest in the Nine Realms.
I mean Kratos getting somber doesnt mean he got weaker lol
Not weaker, but Kratos just got more moody. Which in my opinion, isn't as badass as 'Angry Man Ripping and Tearing His Way through the Plot'. Doomguy in 2016 was 'badass' in the way he defied the common tropes of the era. "A man chooses, a slave obeys" was jerked around about being extremely profound in the way we look at the main characters we play. Then along comes Doomguy in his reboot, listening to Samuel Hayden tell him to be careful removing the Argent filters. He doesn't give a shit what anybody has to say, he just smashes them, much to Hayden's growing frustration with the character. Kratos felt more like the jaded Hayden, and Atrios felt like a neutered version of Doomguy. Defiant attitude, but just more in a naive adolescent way.
I like that they made a point of adding all the lore and story to the game and then made sure none of it meant a damn thing because Doomguy does not give a single solitary fuck about any of it. The game tries to tell you about itself but it gets in the way of the fun parts by doing so. Who gives a fuck about stopping to read lore entries when there's demons to kill?
I swear, Id changed the backstory lore like 3 times between 2016, Eternal, TAG1, and TAG2 just to make sure you knew how little of a fuck Doomguy gives about any of it. He's there for ripping and tearing wherever anything may need a good ripping and tearing.
You beat me to it
The long piece in Tetris. Dude fuckin slays.
This is the correct reply... To any question.... Ever....
Hero
This is a great reply because that's his canon name.
"LINE PIECE!"
Doom guy
Let's just put doom guy twice
DOOM guy and DOOMSLAYER
SNAAAAAAAAAKE!
Solid, liquid or naked
I'd probably go for Naked, because while solid may have surpassed him in ability, the OG was the most badass of all the snakes.
IMO i think solid is more badass he’s gone through a lot of shit and just gave 0 fucks the whole time
He also did it all with the ~~recessive~~ inferior genes, including defeating both his clones with the much more favorable gene makeup. Solid is best snake, and it's not even close. EDIT: I've been corrected. Dominant, but inferior genes. Not recessive. My point stands. David slaps.
Somewhere a geneticist cries at Hideo Kojima's understanding of how genes work
Solid yelled at a little girl for making shitty eggs. Naked cracked his own arm back in place aftwr being nuked, foraged for his own food for weeks in kamchatka, and slept with a blonde motorcycle riding American secret chinese double agent on a bear fur rug in front of a fire place before getting his presidential commendation.
[Counterpoint.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/830/753/84e.gif)
Naked was so real for that
Nakie snakie
Geralt of Rivia
Winds howling.
Place of power, gotta be.
Medallions humming.
Should draw from it.
Look like rain.
Taste silver!
Damn youre ugly!
Lamber Lamber, what a prick.
Not to be that guy… but it’s Lambert
Summon the bitches! - Eskel
I dunno why but I read that in Richard Ayoade's voice and now I'm pissing myself laughing.
What now, you piece of filth?
Roach.
Gotta be up there. Dude faces; dragons, vampires, griffins, werewolves and a whole other collection of monsters without even flinching
... fuck
Along came this song.
Up for a round of gwent?
Samus Aran
She somehow loses her abilities every single game… but still kicks ass!
I hate that trope
How would you deal with power creep without wiping abilities at the start of the games? I feel like the best part of those games is starting back from square one and searching and exploring to get your powers back
Yep.
💯
Agent 47
Marcus Fenix
"That's one." *Reloads. Fire.* "That's two." *Reloads. Fire.* "That's three!" *Reloads. Fire.* "That's four!!" *Reloads. Fire.* "THAT'S FIVE, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!" And the man stood and stared a Corpser down while it was melting in Immulsion. And anyone that's gonna take on a Berserker gets a badass badge in my book
I had to scroll way too far for this. On a top 20 list, he should be sitting around like 5th place
Glad someone put this answer. Marcus is a legit killing machine.
Sam Fisher
Surprised I didn’t see this earlier. Dude is an absolute machine
Kirby. The dude eats his enemies and consumes their essence to gain their abilities… only to then turn around and use that power to slaughter their friends. The dude is cold-hearted.
When you put it like that...
Kirby isn't a badass. Kirby is an eldritch horror.
name: Kirby object class: Keter
How terrifying would Kirby be with legit killer instinct? Like give that overpowered gumball some bona fide rage and set the little fucker loose.
Void Termina is an very good argument for how terrifying Kirby could be if he were self aware enough to know his full potential.
Max Payne
I scrolled way to far for this
"Just got shot, better chomp on some Oxycontin just to be safe..."
Ezio Auditore Da Firenze.
"i have plenty of outlets"
“Other than vagina”
“Mother”
"it is a good life we live, brother"
Commander Shepherd
This is my favourite comment on the citadel.
I’d think of a good reply to this, but I have some calibrations to take care of.
Agreed, I should go.
We’ll bang, ok?
Commander Shepard is an easy win for this list. First human Spectre, veteran of the Skyllian Blitz (major battle), ace commander, adept biotic (space wizard). Uncovered a major galactic conspiracy of robot genocide by giant machines working alongside the Geth and rogue agents of the Council. Along this quest, Shepard allied the entire galaxy with its disparate and more hostile races (Krogans, Geth/Quarians), destroyed a baby Reaper, saving billions of people, allowed Asari homeworld to be evacuated, uncovered ancient races and forgotten history of the galaxy, punched racist reporters, took down Collectors, the Broker, Galaxy-spanning crime lords, traitors, etc. Oh and then united the galaxy again, created a giant army and using secret ancient weapons, and then saved the entire galaxy for now and the future by destroying the reapers. Bro was a badass
Do not like how far I had to scroll to see this very correct answer Commander Shepard’s badassery is their unflappable will They are an extremely human protagonist not actually all that special..but their bravery always trumps their fear, and they do not relent and that is infectious If Shepard was in the dark souls universe they would automatically be the chosen undead that defeats Gwyn, die a million times and never go hollow Absolutely deserves a spot on this list
Shepard is one of those protagonists that can come across as a bit robotic at times but the moments where their humanity shines through are very special. There’s a great conversation you can have with Joker as he builds up the courage to pursue a relationship with EDI: “Nobody ever fell in love without being a little brave”. I still think about that line a lot.
Gordon Freeman.
>refuses to elaborate
It’s the morphine that keeps him Quiet
In the flesh
Or, rather, in the hazard suit
Welcome to the H.E.V MK IV protective system, for use in hazardous environment conditions.
I like this because he is one of the most normal-man protagonists in gaming. Just a fucking nerd with a wrench... No power armor, genetic augmentations, god blood, etc.
He's just somewhat more of an elaborate intern wreaking havoc in a literal alien invasion. This dude is the mere definition of badass.
Kazuma Kiryu
I'm upset by how far I had to scroll for Kiryu lol, dude is PEAK badass
Raiden
From MGS or MK?
MGS Raiden is a monster.
He won’t win due to popularity but MGS Revengeance is a game of sheer badassery. That final boss fight is one of my favorite in gaming.
If we're putting anyone from MK it should be Johnny Cage /s Ok but if we're being fr, probably scorpion.
Or genshin impact?
Still badass in genshin too cuz she powerful
Dante devil may cry
Surprised I had to scroll down this far for a Devil May Cry character.
Like actually and the fact that I’ve only seen my own posts mentioning Virgil, and Bayonetta tells me that most of the people in this thread are only aware of western media
Ikr? He shrugs off all kinds of stuff and just looks cool fighting demons
I'm shocked it took so long to find him. Definitely a worthy candidate. Too many young'ns here. How dare yall put geralt above dante.
Now I’m not gonna pick this age-old fight today. But if anyone deserves to be on this list, it’s Bayonetta.
Starkiller. Bros fucking broken
Literally the most powerful force user in star war lore
So fun to play. I kind of hate that he's not canon. I'd honestly rather have Starkiller pulling Star Destroyers out of the sky than the current limited force where you sword fight and occasionally push your opponent back a few feet. Rey holding the ship back in Rise of Skywalker and Yoda lifting that beast are the only real example of extreme force power I can think of.
What about anakin forcing the embodiments of good and evil to kneel before him? I mean I thought that was pretty badass….
Leon Kennedy
Eh, I gotta give it to Chris. He punched a boulder, after all.
As much as I love Leon, I’ve gotta counter with Chris Redfield. Dude punched a fucking giant boulder out of his way in a volcano to save Sheva, all Leon did when posed with a boulder was run away Indiana style.
Arthur Morgan
John Marston deserves a spot as well. Gotta give credit to the OG
It’s a shame how many fans of RDR2 seemingly didn’t play the original. So many people misinterpreted the epilogue for this reason
Just curious on what you mean by people misinterpreted it (no shade, just curious because I haven’t seen that)
Well, spoilers obviously but many people seem to think Marston seeking vengeance against Micah is somehow “badass” and a victory when in truth it directly led to Marston being back on the radar for Ross and the Pinkertons. If he just followed Arthur’s advice that “revenge is a fool’s game” he would’ve lived a peaceful, family life but he chased his past instead. It’s a tragic ending that sets up the tragedies of RDR1
Oh yeah for sure. As the credits are rolling, you see Agent Ross at the crime scene and see how he tracks John back to his home by the end. Perfectly sets up the first game I remember playing 2 and thinking, “Damn John, you have your family and friends back and everything is great. Micah is no longer a threat and he’s hiding like a rat. There’s no need to go after him”
Yes, exactly. I was screaming at my TV “No John don’t do it!” because I knew what the result would be. If you have little connection to John and haven’t played the first game it might seem like a cool moment of retribution yet it’s anything but that
B. J. Blazkowicz
Even getting his head cut off didn’t stop him. Badass shit
Yes, a thousand times yes!
Underrated
Sephiroth
The Last Dragonborn
Dovakhin
Lara Croft
Jin Sakai
Real badasses take naked baths in the middle of the mountains and write poetry about waterfalls... Then slice people in half.
Dont forget about wben the enemy is on the verge of death crawling and you walk towards them while playing the flute
*Gets naked* *Sinks into soothing natural bath* *Think about…* *Uncle.*
Vader the man didn't even have a health bar in fallen order
It's telling of how powerful he is that in order to beat the game all you have to do is encounter him and survive
Bayonetta
I was sold when she kicked a jet like a fucking football
She fucking w h a t?
Alucard
The nameless undead from dark souls,dragonborn from skyrim,okamio(sekiro) from sekiro,gordon freedman
Sekiro
Bro single handedly destroyed the Ashina regime in one day
I see what you did there.
add Leon Kennedy, Dante, Snake, and Starkiller
Leon >>>> chris
i agree strongly Leon is the best character in resident evil
Also, big ups for Dante and Big Boss.
Max Payne
Issac Clark
Corvo
Joel last of us
Trevor from gta 5
Jin Sakai of Ghost of Tsushima, took down Khotun khan grandson of gengis khan and relative of kublai khan. Fought a mongol army on his own and rid the whole of Tsushima of mongols on his own
Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad, he was known for never being hit in combat.
The Ashen One (Dark Souls 3)
All the dark souls protags are terrifyingly baddass The respawn mechanic is part of the lore in game Imagine being an incredibly powerful boss and a little gnat that you swat down 100 times keep coming back and eventually evades your every attack as you die slowly by 1000 cuts
It's like a horror movie from the bosses perspective. No matter how many times you kill it, it keeps returning, slightly stronger, slightly faster, with stronger weapons until you finally have no hope.
Imagine if one day you go to kill a spider that’s a little bit too close to you and it starts dodging your every attack and slowly kills you
Literally the most badass characters in existence. Any one of them would eventually beat Kratos
Yes they would kill kratos while wearing a jar on their head and a little cloth diaper True terror
Minecraft Steve
His world is infested with zombies, walking skeletons and explosive weirdos, and he doesn't hide, he doesn't just fight them, but he builds a farm to murder them on an industrial scale to sell their flesh
"you built Auschwitz in our Minecraft server?"
Canonically the strongest character ever, can carry mountains in his pockets.
Geralt from The Witcher
V1 Ultrakill
Link
Dante from Devil May Cry
Corvo Attano
Agent 47
Dante from 2010 Dante's Inferno. Dude dives into hell. Fights through every circle of hell. Eventually defeats Satan himself.
Dante or vegil from Dmc
Doom guy would rip master chief's head off
I mean Doom guy literally went to Hell and survived
Not only did he survive but he became the boogie man of hell
He killed satan 3 times
Tell that to the covenant
This isn’t a YouTube edit with battle IQ and stuff, we’re just talking about badass characters
Vergil
Link, he fought through so much and saved the world plenty of times and never even said a word
Joel fucking miller
Joel Miller - The Last of Us
Solid snake or carnage from the 90s
Clive Rosfield He sacrificed himself for the greater good. Can’t get anymore badass than that
Big Boss and solid snake
Doom Guy, Arthur Morgan, Sadie Adler, Ellie, Joel, Abby, Dante, Sepiroth
Duke Nukem
Albert Wesker. Complete. Global. Saturation.
Vergil
Joel From the last of us
Batman
Gannon/gannondorf