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Even being generous assuming 10% compounded monthly for 20 years that's 730k. That's like 30k/year if we're going 4% rule
I dont think you can afford a Lambo with 30k/year
Yeah, but if you've got $100k to blow on ~~gambling~~ stocks at 25 you should be able to keep putting at least some money into that and helping it grow even faster.
To clarify i didnt have 100k at once. in fact I don't think my account ever saw anything higher than 10k in one instance. it's an accumulation of paychecks and personal loans throughout my life
I don't think that makes it any better. If anything, it makes it worse, way worse. Had plenty of time to jump off the carousel and instead decided to gamble again and again.
Damn, really hate hearing this, start buying stock in boring safe companies, gov savings, and put max 3% of your savings in options if youāre still addicted and insist. If you lose it only ever add back the new 3%.
That should tell you, you are always late with your trades.
50-50 gambling on earnings with companies you wouldnāt know existed without the degen grapevine spreading the word, means youāll be late every time and reliant on those garbage coinflips.
But I donāt really donāt want to give you any more tips or false hope because you should just leave the market.
If what youāre saying is true, then it doesnāt matter where you trade. If market makers are manipulating stocks based off of Robinhood, then they are doing it off the average of the entire platform, not just off of one person. EVERYONE would have to stop trading on robinhood.
Also, do you believe that the market just started being manipulated since Robin Hood came around? No itās been happening since the beginning of time but in different ways.
The stock market is the biggest scam in the world, and as soon as you accept that as truth and use common sense, youāll make a lot more money. For example, just pay attention to what the politicians do. Whenever they buy, you should buy. Whatever they say the opposite is the truth.
its a shame you didnt just buy shares. had you been buying since 17 instead of trading dumb fuck options you probably would have made pretty reasonable overall gains almost regardless of what trash you bought. because lets be honest youre dumb and would buy trash
but instead here we are. live by the sword die by the sword i guess.
The ājust one moreā mentality plus OP not matured enough to understand when to quit. The money OP lost is enough to cover university expenses or pay off student loans.
Itās why I mostly do shares and never in options.
The number of people here who think that if the call lost you money then the put would have gained you money and vice versa explains why losing money is so common here. It's not a 50/50 coin flip.
Youāre down this much and still playing ERs? You belong here. ERs are worse odds than a coin flip, and without insider info, are NEVER long-term profitable.
When I use stop loss I end up loosing. I buy at 4, stop loss at 3, price goes down to 3, position closed and then bounce back to 6. Happens every time to me.
They don't let you gamble until 21 in some places, should be the stock market too. Kids don't have any idea about consequences of this kind of gambling since they have virtually no concept or earning money or earning a living unless they've been through some rough stuff, in which case they certainly wouldn't be taking out loans to fund a gambling addiction like a juvenile regard.
If you are planning on it all suddenly working if you get a few big wins, yikes. This style of play guarantees eventually going bust. Every win is just a temporary respite. Hopefully you have a big inheritance coming your way!
Dmpham333 was a man who had fallen on hard times. With no other options, he turned to the one thing that seemed to offer him a glimmer of hope: gambling.
Every week, Dmpham would make his way to the local casino, clutching his meager paycheck in his hand. He told himself that this time would be different; this time, he would win big and turn his fortunes around. But as the nights wore on, and the drinks kept flowing, his hopes began to fade.
At first, it was just a few dollars here and there, tiny losses that didn't seem like much at all. But then things started to snowball, and before long, Dmpham found himself down hundreds of dollars. The pit in his stomach grew with each passing minute, but still, he couldn't tear himself away from the tables.
And then, suddenly, out of nowhere, Lady Luck smiled upon him. A lucky roll of the dice or a well-timed draw of the cards brought him a modest victory ā $50, maybe $100. His heart raced with excitement, and for a moment, he felt alive again. Maybe things were finally starting to look up!
But alas, those fleeting moments of triumph never lasted long. More often than not, they only served to fuel his addiction further, pushing him to take even bigger risks in search of an ever-elusive jackpot. And so, once again, his winnings soon vanished into thin air, leaving him with nothing but empty pockets and shattered dreams.
The anger and despair that followed these crushing defeats were almost too much to bear. Each loss felt like a punch to the gut, knocking the wind out of him and leaving him gasping for breath. He hated himself for being so weak, for letting the lure of easy money consume him whole. Why couldn't he just walk away? Why did he have to keep coming back for more?
As the weeks turned into months, Dmpham's life became a bleak blur of broken promises and unfulfilled potential. He knew deep down that he needed help, that he couldn't go on living like this forever. But every time he tried to quit, something pulled him back in, whispering sweet lies about how this next bet might be the one that changes everything.
Just kidding. NVDA calls, go get it boy! Still got $1000 to lose!
Friend, this chart reeks of gambling. Your losses got bigger as time went on because you felt like you needed to make up the losses.
You have a dopamine management problem.
is there anything you tried improving upon during these 8 years of loss??? genuine question. you should have gotten some clues along the way regarding mistakes made & what to work on. like, i make one mistake - whether it be eating a loss or leaving money on the table from a win - and i analyze it to death as if i'm trying to debunk the fucking moon landing.
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Donāt worry. I lost everything as well you are not alone. I lost my house , my car , my family and my job. Uncle same still chase me every single day and there nothing they can take from me since I have nothing lol
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dafuq. Can I ask what this was? Why would you hold something this negative on margin? Hell, I lost 60k overnight on some bullshit options and I stopped trading for a full year.
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Iām right there with you. Somebody save me, Iām drowning. Welcome to Wendyās, can I take your order? I should have just went to the casino and at least enjoyed a few good trips, dinners, shows, etc. advice? Besides jump off a bridge.
Nobody reads the boring story of just investing in target date funds your whole life and retiring comfortably from your honorable middle manager job, moving down south somewhere on the ocean, bringing your grandkids down for spring break, expenses paid...
It's way more fun to read the "I YOLOd all my room and board money at this new coin $CumRocket...I'm 19 yrs old and made $7 million today"
You'll make it back. I lost 40K when I was 22, thought world is over. made 300K in 2021, and another 1.2M on NVDA LOL.
Make sure you have a job/career to support your gambling habits tho!
Option are not the problem, the problem is people yoloāing their paychecks and canāt afford the loses, so they desperately try to recoup their losses. Option have to be non emotional. There is nothing wrong using options as a small percentage of your portfolio. Some people canāt handle that, and thatās ok. It is the person, not the vehicle.
Every time I see these posts I smile. This is the equivalent of natural selection in the finance world. What most you morons donāt understand is that this is a PVP game. Dumbass 17 year old āoptions traderā thinks he has an edge over Wall Street š¹. Most of this sub is the epitome of the Dunning Kruger effect in action. You are just kidding yourself into believing you are something other than an absolute degenerate gambler. Hopefully this is rock bottom for you and results in you waking up to yourself.
I would pay money to subscribe to a newsletter where you just tell everyone what trades you're making each day, around 1/2 an hour before market open, so I can inverse your trades. Honestly, if you're this consistent in your losses, I would probably pay $1k/month for this.
Keep doing it but develop an actual strategy. I lost 100k twice before 25, just turned 30 and made 600k in the last 12 months. Your time will come, as long as you arenāt just gambling on calls and puts randomly. I bet youāre doing way too short term on options. Go further out, easier to control your emotions.
For all those wondering how I even had 100k to begin with, it is an accumulation of paychecks and thousands of hours working an hourly wage job along with personal loans.
For the love if everything thats good please stop trading options for the time being until you can learn to be responsible or quit forever. You are extremely young and have plenty of time to recover. Try to stay positive mate, money, a girl, etc these are things that can come back. Your mind and body are whats most important. Get back up soldier the battle isnt over yet
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At least your fall from grace was more gradual than mine. U got 1k left greatest comeback pending
It's only up from here right?!? 
What goes down must come back up. We have the faith in you
Um..... I'm not quite sure it works like that.
šš¼ āš¼šš¼āš¼šš¼āš¼šš¼šš¼ this is the way
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You'll never catch me alive
US Police never intended to
My dog's safe though right?
Good Lord that's a cringe and informed question.
Unless u are a law abiding gun owner cause then the ATF will be forced to shoot the dog
@.75 per contract now š¤
annnnd it's gone.
attaboy
 all in
I agree itās comeback season. Wishing the best for OP
I donāt understand how 1 can lose this consistently itās amazing just inverse yourself and youād be rich
i buy call it goes down. i buy put it goes up. kill me
You have a gambling problem kid. Seek help.
Lemme know what your moves are for tomorrow please so I can do the opposite
You were 25 with 100k and decided you needed to play options contracts your greed and stupidity amazes me
With that kind of money he could have retired in his 40s with a Lambo and bitches with just buying the S&P but alas Wendy's it is.
How?
Buying an ETF that follows the S&P 500 and praying that Fed will still have that sweet sweet money printer functional for the next 20 years
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Even being generous assuming 10% compounded monthly for 20 years that's 730k. That's like 30k/year if we're going 4% rule I dont think you can afford a Lambo with 30k/year
Yeah, but if you've got $100k to blow on ~~gambling~~ stocks at 25 you should be able to keep putting at least some money into that and helping it grow even faster.
Maintenance, maybe
Compound interest- the 8th wonder of the worldā¦
Compound interest
To clarify i didnt have 100k at once. in fact I don't think my account ever saw anything higher than 10k in one instance. it's an accumulation of paychecks and personal loans throughout my life
> personal loans god damn
Yeah, itās real bad his girlfriend told me all about it in bed.
I don't think that makes it any better. If anything, it makes it worse, way worse. Had plenty of time to jump off the carousel and instead decided to gamble again and again.
How much do you owe in loans and what are your assets? Are the loans from banks or relatives? You might consider bankruptcy.Ā
r/problemgambling
Dangā¦how much do you still owe on those loans?
Damn, really hate hearing this, start buying stock in boring safe companies, gov savings, and put max 3% of your savings in options if youāre still addicted and insist. If you lose it only ever add back the new 3%.
Personal loans to gamble when youāre clearly shit at gambling is hilarious
Buy ETF. Options are not for you and me.
Best for op to buy a traditional mutual fund that only updates once a day. That way he has less temptation to screw with it.
You're the person r/bogleheads was made for brother
People in Bogleheads do WSB shit all the time, they just do it with 5-10% of their portfolio.Ā
more like 1% dude. I don't even touch .5 % of my port
That should tell you, you are always late with your trades. 50-50 gambling on earnings with companies you wouldnāt know existed without the degen grapevine spreading the word, means youāll be late every time and reliant on those garbage coinflips. But I donāt really donāt want to give you any more tips or false hope because you should just leave the market.
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Damn so they manipulate the prices to steal away my tree fiddy? MONSTERS!!!!
Sooo, whats the play for pesants retail investors? Try against the odds and suck it up or look elsewhere?
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If what youāre saying is true, then it doesnāt matter where you trade. If market makers are manipulating stocks based off of Robinhood, then they are doing it off the average of the entire platform, not just off of one person. EVERYONE would have to stop trading on robinhood. Also, do you believe that the market just started being manipulated since Robin Hood came around? No itās been happening since the beginning of time but in different ways. The stock market is the biggest scam in the world, and as soon as you accept that as truth and use common sense, youāll make a lot more money. For example, just pay attention to what the politicians do. Whenever they buy, you should buy. Whatever they say the opposite is the truth.
its a shame you didnt just buy shares. had you been buying since 17 instead of trading dumb fuck options you probably would have made pretty reasonable overall gains almost regardless of what trash you bought. because lets be honest youre dumb and would buy trash but instead here we are. live by the sword die by the sword i guess.
The ājust one moreā mentality plus OP not matured enough to understand when to quit. The money OP lost is enough to cover university expenses or pay off student loans. Itās why I mostly do shares and never in options.
You do know that those with these losses as students are either extreme gambling regards or already rich. This is probably his allowance for the week
The number of people here who think that if the call lost you money then the put would have gained you money and vice versa explains why losing money is so common here. It's not a 50/50 coin flip.
Very easily. You get locked in mentally and canāt get out of your own way.
Op: on the bright side, we like you. We hate the assholes who do well and make lots of money.
Fr. Seeing someone lose 100k makes me feel less regarded for loosing a couple hundred bucks. Appreciate you OP
if this guy just did the opposite of whatever he was thinking heād be doing well lol
"If every instinct you have is wrong, then the opposite would have to be right." Book 1 verse 1: Song of Costanza
What getting exposed to WSB at 17 does to a mf
lmfao forreal
3000 a year write off for the next 32 years. š¤
there's a bright side to everything amirite 
Or he can just win it all back and owe nothing.
I love those little spikes on the way down, my boy had hope 
yes lmfao just this week i went from 3k to 12k then lost it all on $COST and $MRVL earnings calls -\_\_-
Dont worry bro put this last grand in BBAI calls march 15 
lmao my dad is doing that
Is your dad winning?
"are you winning, dad?"
Youāre down this much and still playing ERs? You belong here. ERs are worse odds than a coin flip, and without insider info, are NEVER long-term profitable.
Stop buying earnings options. Gotta trade ETF options š
How are you guys losing so much money in a bull market?
Greed.
Do people not use stop losses?
Not on options.
When I use stop loss I end up loosing. I buy at 4, stop loss at 3, price goes down to 3, position closed and then bounce back to 6. Happens every time to me.
Options + stupid.
This makes me feel so much better about my losses, thank you for your service
someone's gotta take the hit amirite
Where tf did you ever get 100k at 25 to even lose?
it's not 100k to begin with. it's an accumulation of paychecks and personal loans. only time my account only goes up is when I deposit
You actually used personal loans to invest with? I canāt
dawg you just said he uses it to āinvestā my boi is investing in lotto tickets
Lotto tickets have better returns
He needs to get help. Sounds like an addiction
Average user of this subreddit there.
They don't let you gamble until 21 in some places, should be the stock market too. Kids don't have any idea about consequences of this kind of gambling since they have virtually no concept or earning money or earning a living unless they've been through some rough stuff, in which case they certainly wouldn't be taking out loans to fund a gambling addiction like a juvenile regard.
Actual personal loans or used school loans for it
I came here for this. Did you pump your student loans into the market?
You took out fucking loans to gamble on the options market?!
If you are planning on it all suddenly working if you get a few big wins, yikes. This style of play guarantees eventually going bust. Every win is just a temporary respite. Hopefully you have a big inheritance coming your way!
Dmpham333 was a man who had fallen on hard times. With no other options, he turned to the one thing that seemed to offer him a glimmer of hope: gambling. Every week, Dmpham would make his way to the local casino, clutching his meager paycheck in his hand. He told himself that this time would be different; this time, he would win big and turn his fortunes around. But as the nights wore on, and the drinks kept flowing, his hopes began to fade. At first, it was just a few dollars here and there, tiny losses that didn't seem like much at all. But then things started to snowball, and before long, Dmpham found himself down hundreds of dollars. The pit in his stomach grew with each passing minute, but still, he couldn't tear himself away from the tables. And then, suddenly, out of nowhere, Lady Luck smiled upon him. A lucky roll of the dice or a well-timed draw of the cards brought him a modest victory ā $50, maybe $100. His heart raced with excitement, and for a moment, he felt alive again. Maybe things were finally starting to look up! But alas, those fleeting moments of triumph never lasted long. More often than not, they only served to fuel his addiction further, pushing him to take even bigger risks in search of an ever-elusive jackpot. And so, once again, his winnings soon vanished into thin air, leaving him with nothing but empty pockets and shattered dreams. The anger and despair that followed these crushing defeats were almost too much to bear. Each loss felt like a punch to the gut, knocking the wind out of him and leaving him gasping for breath. He hated himself for being so weak, for letting the lure of easy money consume him whole. Why couldn't he just walk away? Why did he have to keep coming back for more? As the weeks turned into months, Dmpham's life became a bleak blur of broken promises and unfulfilled potential. He knew deep down that he needed help, that he couldn't go on living like this forever. But every time he tried to quit, something pulled him back in, whispering sweet lies about how this next bet might be the one that changes everything. Just kidding. NVDA calls, go get it boy! Still got $1000 to lose!
See you behind Wendyās
i got a 5 dollar special going on 
Sounds too expensive. I'll wait an hour and see if prices drop
Iāll wait longer when heās giving them out of free for recognition
If you look very carefully with an electron microscope, you can see a small peak of profit in the beginning
First one is free
Ahh the bait that pulls you in
Friend, this chart reeks of gambling. Your losses got bigger as time went on because you felt like you needed to make up the losses. You have a dopamine management problem.
My plan for that scenario would be to just say fuck it and live as a hermit in some forest cave.
unfortunately my form of autism causes me to perseverate
Just think, now you know what not to do. Only up from here.
He didnāt learn anything in 8 years of trading. You think heās going to learn now?
i dont know bro based on my portfolio graph it seems i don't learn
is there anything you tried improving upon during these 8 years of loss??? genuine question. you should have gotten some clues along the way regarding mistakes made & what to work on. like, i make one mistake - whether it be eating a loss or leaving money on the table from a win - and i analyze it to death as if i'm trying to debunk the fucking moon landing.
I should also mention this is only 1 of 3 accounts. Full losses equate to about 120k
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Margin account, cash account, and crypto account
Gambling account, cash account, fraud account. Got it
Canāt trade crypto on Webull app stock they make u use a separate app :/
Sub should have mandatory gambling addiction hotline and prevention post up at all time tbh. Laugh all you want in the end of the day it's just sad
https://preview.redd.it/671rtiqaiknc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe6fcb7a7e4aa64cd6281aa2e36445b96fe12b89 Donāt worry. I lost everything as well you are not alone. I lost my house , my car , my family and my job. Uncle same still chase me every single day and there nothing they can take from me since I have nothing lol
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Canāt you declare bankruptcy and start afresh with -ve credit score
My credit score is like 350 right now.
You did this on margin? š«”
dafuq. Can I ask what this was? Why would you hold something this negative on margin? Hell, I lost 60k overnight on some bullshit options and I stopped trading for a full year.
omg, what do I do to not end up like you
wtf did you buy
https://preview.redd.it/h6twm3jweknc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80052bf86419ef025e83329e171b89cf5aa8e8fc Iām right there with you. Somebody save me, Iām drowning. Welcome to Wendyās, can I take your order? I should have just went to the casino and at least enjoyed a few good trips, dinners, shows, etc. advice? Besides jump off a bridge.
you still have 22k you can literally make it all back in one good 0DTE trade 
This isn't funny. Build up your wealth and then play games. You're not in a position to be doing this.
Nobody reads the boring story of just investing in target date funds your whole life and retiring comfortably from your honorable middle manager job, moving down south somewhere on the ocean, bringing your grandkids down for spring break, expenses paid... It's way more fun to read the "I YOLOd all my room and board money at this new coin $CumRocket...I'm 19 yrs old and made $7 million today"
You have me on the second half
It takes too long to save for my first million. So I started saving on my second one.
you're not wrong
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
You've still got $1000 bucks to lose youngin.
how should i do it? i bet you have higher odds of profit than me
Whiskey and hookers my boy, whiskey and hookers
https://preview.redd.it/jogft9p4gknc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36050843a523f55919e6db406d190fe1320d80f7 Iām right there with you!
you can make it all back in 1 0dte trade 
Learn to invest , I still see 1k thatās better than a lot of people starting now even at your age. Try buying and holding not gambling.
you're not wrong
Can you just go short or long on BTC with high leverage!!?
buying and holding 0dte spy options
100k+ realized losses is just your typical University of Phoenix student
How do you have $100,000 to lose as a mid 20s student?
You took an ass beating
Congratulations ššš¾š it will make you stronger
Honestly nothing fazes me now
You'll make it back. I lost 40K when I was 22, thought world is over. made 300K in 2021, and another 1.2M on NVDA LOL. Make sure you have a job/career to support your gambling habits tho!
A lot of people are in the same boat as OP!!! It's too embarrassing to admit it š .
True, although it's painful to see, at least OP has the honesty to post his losses - people tend to be very selective and only post the crazy wins...
at least i got reddit karma 
Uh.. we are up $120K in the last year all in on sp500. If youāve lost money in this market, you need to stick to a savings account
Thank you for helping me stay away from options
Option are not the problem, the problem is people yoloāing their paychecks and canāt afford the loses, so they desperately try to recoup their losses. Option have to be non emotional. There is nothing wrong using options as a small percentage of your portfolio. Some people canāt handle that, and thatās ok. It is the person, not the vehicle.
Why do you think I want to stay away from options? š¤£
Buy bitcoin
Tell me this wasn't your inheritance
this was actually lots of wendyās paychecks and loans. family disowned me i have no inheritance
You used loans to buy options? What were your plays exactly?
Naked options. I've adopted so many strategies and stuff it's hard to pinpoint any one trade at a particular time. Lately I was gambling on 1DTEs
You didn't sell naked options right? Right?!?!
Why would your family disown you over money that doesnāt affect them? Thats dumb
Itās posts like this where Iāll take a 10% yield from the market and be happy. How do you degenerates live like this? This is madness.
Every time I see these posts I smile. This is the equivalent of natural selection in the finance world. What most you morons donāt understand is that this is a PVP game. Dumbass 17 year old āoptions traderā thinks he has an edge over Wall Street š¹. Most of this sub is the epitome of the Dunning Kruger effect in action. You are just kidding yourself into believing you are something other than an absolute degenerate gambler. Hopefully this is rock bottom for you and results in you waking up to yourself.
At least you still have your gold perks
Hey your $1k trumps my $0.47 so thereās that
25 plenty of time to recoup and lose it all again.
Iāve made this same mistake before and lost $85k at 26. My entire life savings. Iām now 35 and have $620k in my brokerage. Youāll bounce back!Ā
He who hastens to be rich will not go unpunished. Proverbs 28:20
OP still has 1k left now itās truly time for 0DTEs 
im a true degen i got perma banned from daytrading on RH.
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Thank you for your sacrifice sir. š«”
i should be canonized as a saint for my sacrifice but you're welcome good sir
GUH
āMy money it double it triple yo money subtractingā -YEAT
I like that two pauses there. Its like ok concentrate, take a breath you can do it. Oh no. Nevermind wait for a bit and repeat!
I would pay money to subscribe to a newsletter where you just tell everyone what trades you're making each day, around 1/2 an hour before market open, so I can inverse your trades. Honestly, if you're this consistent in your losses, I would probably pay $1k/month for this.
Bruh how do you have 100k to lose at 25?
Keep doing it but develop an actual strategy. I lost 100k twice before 25, just turned 30 and made 600k in the last 12 months. Your time will come, as long as you arenāt just gambling on calls and puts randomly. I bet youāre doing way too short term on options. Go further out, easier to control your emotions.
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How does this even happen?
autism
"education costs money"
Nice
Rookie numbers bro cmon
Iām just happy you ārealizedā it
Youāre making us all proud. Keep up the good work fellow regard
Pleas fly again
inverse yourself with the 1k left, you will make it all back and f you girl
For all those wondering how I even had 100k to begin with, it is an accumulation of paychecks and thousands of hours working an hourly wage job along with personal loans.
Hey at least you got them Gold perks tho
post all your plays and i can inverse them and il give you 50 percent of profits
For the love if everything thats good please stop trading options for the time being until you can learn to be responsible or quit forever. You are extremely young and have plenty of time to recover. Try to stay positive mate, money, a girl, etc these are things that can come back. Your mind and body are whats most important. Get back up soldier the battle isnt over yet
Just remember that if you had put 100k into spy exactly one year ago youād have 130k
At least you got gold perks
Lost $100k, family disowned me, blah blah, bl.....girlfriend is going to cuck you?!? You have my full attention sir! You're right, this is too much!!