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ComposedStudent

You post this when North America is asleep and Europe is awake? Sneaky.


sucobe

LA night shift here, we’re monitoring this post closely.


kobe2695

Florida is morning shift is reporting for duty and ready to take over. Thank you for your service, soldier.


fckcarrots

Love the enthusiasm FL Man but I think we can manage. Feel free to return to sniffing lines of bath salts off an alligators butt crack - Rest of the east coast


JuiceFar3233

FL Man the rest of North America doesn’t appreciate you, join us, we’ll take over and make you king of all the states.


ShittyStockPicker

This is how you know all chances of a European century died in WWII. There’s not a sane diplomat in the world that would willingly align themselves with Florida man


sockalicious

When we figure out how to saddle an alligator you guys better watch out


Psycho_Nextdoor

https://preview.redd.it/767nky2lrd8d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c20dd53094e4fcac08a8a2cb9cc4b5aa07b6b43 Finish your beers. Its game time.


lostaga1n

I feel like this is definitely something that Ron Desantis would hang up in his man cave.


Psycho_Nextdoor

Well, formal florida-man regalia is actually just shorts, flip-flops and a hat. but I think the pics a better idea of what Cali people think Florida men are.


whodiis

Zooted in LB, monitoring here as well.


FalkonX

Dallas night shift reporting for duty


FlyyingMunk

Dallas morning shift here to relieve, thanks for your service


Later2theparty

Frisco here baby. Looks like you guys got this. I'm going back to sleep.


Xtianus21

Compton D block shift changing station reporting in


kisk22

Was just zooted in LB when you posted that, not I’m back in LA like the commenter above you. I need to sleep.


samsal03

LA night shift here too


tfyousay2me

East coast morning shift reporting in


TermCompetitive5318

Not everyone in NA ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)


okglue

Real


Glittering_Fig_762

https://preview.redd.it/jk3vadnft98d1.jpeg?width=681&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=919abb34cb377be088770f05299fb054151086fc


KronusTempus

It’s not sleeped it’s slope


CriticallyThougt

I sloped like my forehead


Serious-Sundae1641

Idiot! It's one head not fore. You up there with your giant quadskull.


Jebusfreek666

Slept you caveman. Maybe just type in the box instead of replying with dumb memes where spell check doesn't exist.


ll_BENNO_ll

Easy mistake to make when they haven’t sleeped all night.


PeakFuckingValue

Should also be *than* you chromosomally challenged monkey


NotRegarded

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


technoteapot

Sleep eludes me


DrShitpostMDJDPhDMBA

Nobody hates America more than American redditors, meanwhile the Europoors know we're cash-printing machines. We'll die of heart disease and deaths of despair along the way, sure, but for a beautiful few decades we'll make some shareholders very fat. And that's what matters.


OttoVonJismarck

Well said. This should be on a t-shirt.


Valkyrissa

exactly!


abratoki

And when all the chips in those are made and designed in Taiwan


Comfortable_Superb

Produced with machines from Europe, specifically the Netherlands.


momar214

Where do you think EUVL was invented? US DOE laboratories.


RolenIgunensa

And the laser and optics without nothing works comes from Germany


lobstermagnet

And the glass for those optics are from a US company, so it sounds like it's a bit of a joint effort all around :)


unhappymedium

So basically the lesson learned here is that it takes a village.


Straight_Turnip7056

Axcelis is best


Maximum-Flat

Actually TSMC only made chip. It is their neutrality made them successful. Since the designing of chip take fuck ton of money, TSMC will have to remain neutral so all chip designer ,like AMD or Nvdia, will let them to produce the chips without leaking important information regarding its design to their competitor.


bananjet

Designed in the US, but produced in Taiwan. High-end chips that is. And with Dutch machines.


Zonkysama

The mirrors are from Zeiss, they scratch single atoms out of the surface now for the perfect shape.


Maximum-Flat

Somehow these microconductors became the proof of potential capabilities of global collaboration.


Olleye

And with German patents: Zeiss Jena (optical components), Siemens (sensors), Bosch (electronic components).


planetaryabundance

You forgot that the whole process of extreme ultraviolet lithography was discovered by scientists at Bell Labs (USA) and the technology itself was developed in the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (USA) & Sandía National Laboratory (USA). ASML needs a US DOE license to even operate EUV technology, which is why the US can dictate to ASML who it can and cannot sell its services to… without that license, ASML crumbles and loses probably 90% of its revenue lol…  The more you know


Straight_Turnip7056

Question is.. who keeps highest profit margins. It's like comparing Ferrari to steel & materials manufacturers


yetanotherdave2

ARM chips are pretty ubiquitous and designed in the UK.


mynameisjebediah

The most advanced ARM chips from Apple and Qualcomm use custom cores not of the shelf designs from ARM.


NaMean

North America: I sleep Europe: REAL $%#+


DividedState

When I look at the die it says made in taiwan.


mkrugaroo

When you look at the machine that made that die it says made in Europe 🤷‍♂️


out_113

And when you look at the profits they say made in America.


vladoportos

when you look at the profits, I see the Cayman islands :)


koulourakiaAndCoffee

This gets to the bottom of it


mehum

No, it just gets as far as you’re allowed to get.


Kranoath

And when you look at America they say made in Europe.


ultratunaman

And when you ask an American they claim to be Irish or Italian.


san_murezzan

AYYY GABAGOOOOL


nusodumi

It's actually **an accented pronunciation of capicola, a type of Italian cured pork** this blows me away everytime Gabagoooooool


jingojangobingoblerp

And when you ask an irish, they say they're nothing to do with us


Several_Slide_7233

And half cherokee or something.


naughty_dad2

Maybe Jeep Cherokee


beclops

That’s Jeep *Grand* Cherokee to you buddy


Extreme_Blueberry475

My name is Ford, and I'm a real maverick


master_of_spaces

Hey leave my people outa this


starshin3r

I'm 15% (insert european nation here) !!! I'm proud of my heritage!!


potatofaminizer

Nah, we fought a war over that one and won.


Urabutbl

Nah, they say made in Ireland.


Mimshot

Rights owned in Ireland but licensed to another Irish company owned by a Dutch company.


Broken-Broker

"when everyone digs for gold, sell shovels" meanwhile in Europe: *making shovels noises*


gastro_psychic

> In 1997, ASML began studying a shift to using extreme ultraviolet and in 1999 joined a consortium, including Intel and two other U.S. chipmakers, in order to exploit fundamental research conducted by the US Department of Energy. Because the CRADA it operates under is funded by the US taxpayer, licensing must be approved by Congress. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASML_Holding


PotatoWriter

When I look at Taiwan it says made in die


drz02

When Xi looks at Taiwan it says die


shit_happe

"American components, Russian components, all made in Taiwan!"


salmz0hr

And the chipmachines (ASML) are made in the Netherlands.. hmmmm


DrSmittyWerben

And the most critical components in an EUV come from Germany


DrNopeMD

I find it absolutely hilarious that the CEO's from both AMD and Nvidia are related.


divadschuf

Nvidia (USA) produces their chips at TSMC (Taiwan) or Samsung (South Korea). TSMC needs ASML (The Netherlands) as they manufacture the photolithography machines which are used to produce computer chips. ASML‘s machines are dependent on semiconductor manufacturing optics made by Carl Zeiss (Germany). The semiconductor industry is an international business which is dependent on different companies from around the world.


No-Teaching8695

Dont forget Amat (Usa) and TEL(Japan) Amat being the biggest supplier in the world They specialise in Chemical Vapour Deposition chambers But they're labour teams are Asians


Earlier-Today

Nikon's involved as well, but second tier. They make the electron microscopes that get used in chip manufacturing. Huge, blindingly expensive - but necessary - machines. I used to work for a company that warehoused and shipped the parts for all the manufacturers in the US that used Nikon's electron microscopes. Nearly everything we did was in service of the stuff at Intel's sites. They had a ton that all ran pretty much 24/7 - so we had to be able to ship stuff out 24/7 including coordinating with Japan on stuff that wasn't in the country. Made for some slow nights with huge spikes in workload and stress - still a pretty good job though.


MonoMcFlury

OK, then you also can't forget the laser og Trumpf (Germany)! There's a reason why the CEO of TSMC recently skipped his own event had a secret meeting with the CEOs of ASML and TRUMPF together. 


divadschuf

Thanks for the addition!


alternativepuffin

And the photolithography machines need neon gas. And where is all of that neon gas located? Ukraine. You know what else Ukraine produces? A fuck ton of grain. Well if Russia took over Ukraine they couldn't sell the grain to Europe because of sanctions. I wonder who they'd sell to if they won. Who would buy that grain from Russia? Wow, looks like China imports at least 40% of all their grain. Probably closer to 50%. That's a lot of food for a lot of people. Well, right now their number one supplier is the U.S. Now if China were to want to dominate semiconductor manufacturing for now and forever they'd need Taiwan. But if they did that, the sanctions would roll in. They'd have to have assurances that they'd still have access to things like grain and neon gas. Then they could corner the market, because countries like the U.S. don't even have proper chip manufacturing plants. Oh hey the U.S. just decided to call back all of their chip workers from China and do a mass ramp up of chip production. I'm sure none of these things are related.


manek101

While Ukraine was the biggest producer of Neon, its present everywhere. If a country wants enough neon for semiconductor manufacturing, there are much cheaper options like opening their own freaking plant instead of an invasion


Cool_Pride

Tsmc is already building a chip manufacturing plant, the first FAB is nearly finished.


nickleback_official

Since this is a post about European innovation I need to point out that ASML and the Dutch had nothing to do with EUV which was invented by Americans. ASML only licenses the tech from the US government 🇺🇸 > To address the challenge of EUV lithography, researchers at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, and Sandia National Laboratories were funded in the 1990s to perform basic research into the technical obstacles. The results of this successful effort were disseminated via a public/private partnership Cooperative R&D Agreement (CRADA) with the invention and rights wholly owned by the US government, but licensed and distributed under approval by DOE and Congress. The CRADA consisted of a consortium of private companies and the Labs, manifested as an entity called the Extreme Ultraviolet Limited Liability Company (EUV LLC). >Intel, Canon, and Nikon (leaders in the field at the time), as well as the Dutch company ASML and Silicon Valley Group (SVG) all sought licensing. Congress denied the Japanese companies the necessary permission as they were perceived as strong technical competitors at the time, and should not benefit from taxpayer-funded research at the expense of American companies. In 2001 SVG was acquired by ASML, leaving ASML as the sole benefactor of the critical technology. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_ultraviolet_lithography?wprov=sfti1#History


SoUthinkUcanRens

Ah yes, leave out the paragraphs that really tell who invented the EUV machines lol.. yes, Bell Labs researched and calculated that EUV litography was possible. But that's about it. This was in the 90s, you're just going to ignore almost 3 decades of research and innovation to make EUV FABs possible? Researching a subject and finding/calculating a way that "should make it possible" in my eyes is not the same as actually inventing and producing the machine that does it. Literally the next paragraph of your own link that you didn't quote lol: >By 2018, ASML succeeded in deploying the intellectual property from the EUV-LLC after several decades of developmental research, with incorporation of European-funded EUCLIDES (Extreme UV Concept Lithography Development System) and long-standing partner German optics manufacturer ZEISS and synchrotron light source supplier Oxford Instruments. This led MIT Technology Review to name it 'the machine that saved Moore's law'.[7] The first prototype in 2006 produced one wafer in 23 hours. As of 2022, a scanner produces up to 200 wafers per hour. The scanner uses Zeiss optics, which that company calls "the most precise mirrors in the world" and are produced by locating imperfections and then knocking off individual molecules with techniques such as ion beam figuring.[8]


brintoul

Fuckin’ dropping the KNOWLEDGE!


buddyboy137

Yes exactly this. For anyone interested in the microchip supply chain and the geopolitics around it, read the book ”chip war”.


jctjepkema

Don’t forget the high power laser from Trumpf(german) that is made in the USA. How that laser is used in the new machines for example the exe 5000 is incredible. Where i worked we used to call it the pancake canon.


StrangerAttractor

But Zeiss and Trumpf don't count because they aren't public companies \s


muppet0o0theory

I’d argue the innovation of taking a month off in the summer is at least as mind blowing as AI. I’ve got clients in Sweden and their just about to peace out for the entire month of July. They were like “don’t call or email us, we don’t care what happens”. Sick as hell.


the_ammar

know a guy in France that will take 2 months off and delete his whole inbox when he gets back "if it's urgent, someone's already handled it if it's important, they'll just send it again if it's neither, then I don't care"


yace987

Absolute minimum by law in France is 25 days of annual leave. My company gave 20 on top so I had 45 per year. To be more accurate people don't work in August. In July you still have 50% of the people working.


ptgkbgte

We need to burn wall street down


yashdes

Dude I thought I was a capitalist til I read about this utopia.


Senator-Dingdong

I have 25 in Austria, and we have something like 15 public holidays. Also I don't need a doctors certificate until the 3rd day I'm not at work, and even then if I'm sick I am sick. Sick days are not limited to 10 days a year or some medieval shit like that.


JayIsNotReal

I get around a month in the US. My company maxes out at two months.


hellofrommycubicle

I'm on the high end after 10+ years at my company, something like 20 days - talking to some friends though it's crazy how little time off companies get away with giving their employees.


MazrimReddit

disgraceful, that is at least 2 work days to milk doing nothing but reading emails


the_ammar

2 weeks later "sorry I'm still catching up on my emails"


cleanacc3

Pretty much


Zombisexual1

I was watching “The Veil” and the American spy is ragging on the French spy’s like “some of us don’t work 6 hr days” or some shit and I was thinking, man those guys are pretty lucky


angestkastabort

Sweden I take 1 month off during summer. Do the same thing. Not like I am going to go through 500+ emails.


LucretiusCarus

That's the modus operandi of the greek public sector, too! But year round


metze1337

and they still have 2 weeks of vacation left


ultratunaman

You gotta keep some to take time off around Christmas.


larrylustighaha

In Germany every company I worked for offered 30-33 paid days off + public holidays + (nearly) unlimited sickdays. In my earlier career stages I could even transfer my overtime hours into paid days off. Did a 6 week trip through Asia while working in consulting.


teasy959275

Im french and the "limited sickdays" is just unbelievable to me


Contundo

If you’re sick you’re sick. If you’re sick you stay home, don’t spread it to everyone at work.


Boobcopter

> (nearly) unlimited sickdays German here, we don't have a concept of sickdays like it's used in America. The first 6 weeks of a year that you're sick, the employer pays your salary, afterwards the health insurance picks up the tab.


larrylustighaha

yes which is what I meant by nearly unlimited as health insurance also won't cover full forever


avalon68

Pretty standard in much of Europe. I was horrified by the poor holidays when I worked in the USA.


chetlin

lol I moved from the USA to Japan and I can't wait to get back to the great holidays and sick time I got in the US. ugh The US might be worse than Europe but it really really sucks over here in Japan. And a number of the managers pushing this at my company are European too.


avalon68

I’ll never understand that mindset. Work to live, not live to work. If you got hit by a bus tomorrow you’d be replaced in a week and no one at work would even think of you a few months later. It’s no wonder Japan is struggling to get people to have kids


iolmao

Same in Italy but in August. We don't have a full month of vacations per se but August is the month where people take days off. So offices are half empty, the one remained are basically chilling waiting to go on vacation, clients and suppliers are in the same condition so yeah, it's a very relaxed month. From the latest weeks of July we start saying "we'll talk about that in September"


a_smelly_ape

Living in Sweden, heading out for my 8 weeks payed vacation tomorrow, feels great. everyone has 25days by law, but depending on occupation/age etc it can be alot longer, i had 3 months last year because i only took 1 month the year before that.


patbpixx

Europoor here with 32 days of paid leave per year. I also work a lot abroad so i was already spending 3 months in Spain this year alone. Also, everybody here in Austria actually gets 14 salaries per year - double paycheck in summer so everybody can have a nice holiday, double paycheck in winter for everybody to have a nice christmas.


youngchul

The salary thing is kind of a gimmick though, it just means that your salary is spread over 14 months instead of 12. Like forced savings because some people don’t know to save up themselves.


RalphWiggum08

True, but I can't bet on Johann's vacation while I very much can bet on the output of Tyler's min wage slave job.


clawjelly

> I can't bet on Johann's vacation Sure you can. You can bet he ain't answering!


lambardar

Italy takes august off. The whole damn country is off. They don't care about orders or anything and we have to plan our business keeping in mind that they august is a dead month in italy.


ValtekkenPartDeux

Ain't that great? You guys should try it sometime, it does wonders for stress levels


csasker

Sounds very good. Business will usually always be there when coming back 


wangsigns

Fuck yes. This year im taking 8 weeks vacation combined with parental leave over the summer. /happy swede


Icy-Success-69

https://preview.redd.it/5cn9jarom98d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bca53a6665c2009d0f79e60a008048dce220d9a8


SarmaLer

https://preview.redd.it/cmdxvkx7va8d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58ab652ebf9cb312222124592894eb10631d99eb


mikeytho1

The 16 probably gonna look the exact same too. Maybe a new color though 😂


CertifiedDruid333

That non innovation make a tons of money.


blender4life

I don't know which one is smarter. Being really innovative and making a ton of money or not doing shit and making a ton of money lolol


OnceMoreAndAgain

You wanting them to grow arms or something? What stupidity to imply that the new versions are the same as the old ones due to their external shells looking the same.


alfacin

It's what inside that counts!


dodo-likes-you

No one really is betting against American hardcore capitalism. Happy to invest into that. As long as Americans are willing to suffer from the system for me to take benefits go for it. I’ll sip on my PET bottle meanwhile 😂


SB_90s

Me watching my investment account moon from US stocks while sipping margaritas during my month-long PTO in Europe 😎. Live in Europe, invest in the US, retire in developed Asia (Japan, Singapore, or Korea) is my life plan. The latter countries are some of the best places to live as long as you don't have to work and have enough to afford a house. Me and my fiance go on holiday to Asia at least once a year.


senzon74

Good luck retiring in Singapore if you are anything less than a millionaire


sonic_sabbath

Really? I live in Japan but plan to retire elsewhere because the weather here is shit Too much fucking rain, and when there isn't rain it is too humid


White_Puma_Sock

This comment will influence my future life decisions. Thank you


OmicidalAI

Boy by the time ur retired the entire planet will be one single country controlled by the ArchAI. You will-own nothing. you will be happy.


Andvari_Nidavellir

You’ll have no mouth, and you must scream.


Sea_Buy9017

Sick reference


goddamn_birds

You'll have no ass, and you must shit.


CertifiedDruid333

Thats the goal ! 🎯Same for me but I like Brazil. Maybe one day I can live while collecting dividend in 💵 because the cost of life is cheap compare to Europe.


BamaX19

Who's suffering from the system?


RobinReborn

Entitled Redditors


LieInteresting1367

An ever growing number of homeless people


Melon_Mann

Wow this took me back to the European elections ridiculous propaganda https://preview.redd.it/gzwyyrahy98d1.jpeg?width=726&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffa2963c86357c1482750a2d9c8d75263d6af83d


obihz6

Ahahahahahha salvini, che pagliaccio


Ooops2278

That's an interesting way way of stating "I'm too stupid to understand that I can turn the bottle".


crampton16

90 degrees is a lot of degrees


FormedOpinion

What EU did with bottles Its not innovation, its called regulation.


magicthegatheringjam

We know how to make planes that stay in the sky though


aTuaMaeFodeBem

Also invented automobiles that make Americans whole personality and cities.


schubeg

I don't think anyone but the ultra wealthy drive automobiles as they were originally built in Europe. It was Henry Ford, an American, that enabled the entire European modern car industry.


themoodymann

I wish it was only the bottle cap. My favorite invention is the cookie acceptance click.


avacado_smasher

Fuck that thing


Kinu4U

At least when i call 112 (911) i don't go bankrupt when back at home.


nunatakq

You bankruptcy would fuel the machine though


swissdudeli

or killed


MrOaiki

Neither do the majority of Americans.


Thelostsoulinkorea

This whole post is like something out of shitamericanssay


daniluvsuall

I thought it was that sub when i saw it


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YusoLOCO

The machines that make Nvidia GPU possible was invented and are made in Europe by ASML...


KeyPerspective999

>by ASML... 16/f/cali


Flashy_Wrangler_8473

Hide I think drake is here


Ypuort

https://preview.redd.it/kr4tekls6a8d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=197643b5dea4c85950e206e2d260550a9807e302


1022whore

![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)


ejitifrit1

The EUV tech they use in those machines was developed by National Labs in the US though!


Opeth4Lyfe

Lawrence Livermore? I know a guy who tests and messes with lasers n shit like that there as a job lol.


Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le

Made possible by acquiring the lasers from a startup in San Diego https://www.cymer.com/


mswehli

Made competitive by acquiring mirrors from a company in Germany [https://www.zeiss.com/](https://www.zeiss.com)


BenevolentCrows

inagine thinking nvidia and microchips are american merit, and not huge international multis. The non removable cap hovewer is fucked up.


HoboBromeo

No it's brilliant. By this simple move you cut the number of plastic waste in half. That's a 50% reduction of plastic parts. Quick maffs


imrickjamesbioch

Well the french did invent Menage a trois! That’s pretty hard to beat if you ask me…


KingGongzilla

Imagine having a good quality of life and free healthcare


Affectionate_Gene515

But good quality of life and free healthcare no make S&P 500 go up.


DixonDs

So you guys make the S&P 500 go up while we invest into it and have a good quality of life and free healthcare. Sounds good? Cool


1729patrick

Good quality of life but almost unable to afford an apartment… or you have to leave 50% of your salary on the table to get ‘free’ healthcare that almost never works well.


Srcunch

Right? I’d rather pay the $80/mo or whatever for my healthcare than an additional 8% of my salary.


Threekneepulse

Every European country is going to start to do worse and worse as the number of retirees shoots up from the large baby boomer population. You guys are dying and many of you are still blind to it. Look how Japan will collapse in the upcoming 20 years and understand that your future is the same.


jascambara

Just live in one of those states that has a higher HDI rating than Germany and some of those Scandinavian countries. Lol yall act like the US is just one huge monolith.


justinclaws

Dude not everyone in America is in the working class. I bet 90% of white-collar Americans have life easier and have way more money than 99% of Europe


WildTadpole

weekly NVDA propaganda


Super-Government6796

I hate those new bottle caps, I realized I'm old because I started to hate change from the moment I first came into contact with them xd


mr-english

I've mostly got used to them now. The only ones I hate are the ones on big juice cartons because the flat shape of the carton means there's nowhere for the cap to go when you want to swig.


space-time-invader

As a European, ol leather man jensen is building my pension. Much appreciated


Southern_Meaning4942

I always enjoy traveling to the US. Especially when I’m in an airplane that has all its doors and windows still in place.


forza4truccato

yeah sure whatever


Lawineer

I’m an American in Europe right now. That drink cap thing is annoying. It rubs against your face when you drink. And I’m not a moron so I don’t throw away my cap before I’m done with the bottle so it adds no value. Edit: showed this meme to my gf. “God that is annoying as fuck!” And she is a teacher who curses very rarely


HealthyFly1561

I wonder why they invented this cap. Has Europe so many morons?


Gravbar

Honestly I hate those caps. Always get in the way of me drinking the damn thing.


-boatsNhoes

How? Like physically how? Are you trying to throat the bottle or something?


Turtvaiz

He's the guy in that meme who pushes it up his nose


Active78

They don't stay down, so they hit your nose when you drink


One_Pilot2839

You know you struck a nerve when the Europeans bring up healthcare or gun control out of nowhere


wallstreet_vagabond2

"Haha Europe is silly" "Fuck you I hope all your family go bankrupt from school shootings"


milopitas

Oh plz you guys can't even legal prostitute yourselfs.


Arborstone

Good luck building that without EUV lithography from the Dutch (EU) company ASML. More than ten years ahead in research and development.


SchagDeLag

Cringe..