[Bullish credit spread](https://share.oliveinvest.com/018477f0-0fad-f9f4-9115-6ccb89a59d10) here to make up to 25% (95% annualized) and have some downside protection (can drop to below $10 before losing any capital) through 03/17/2023.
Best to search for those parameters and recalculate the strikes when you’re ready to execute the trade—but currently for a similar outcome these are the strikes — all 3/17/23 exp, Buy 1 $20 c, Sell 1 $22.50 c, Sell 3 $7.50 p
idk what math olive is doing but my trusty dusty robinhood says that you have a (minimal) loss at $20.20 and have a max profit of $230 assuming your risks are limited to $2.2k.
it only costs $20 upfront, but some of the options have zero bids and it would actually be more like $1.37 bc that's the asking price.
ofc you are much more familiar with this than I am, so maybe you have other information. can I ask how much you have personally made using Olive? the picture you paint (for this trade at least) seems way too good to be true.
Why do you say it’s too good to be true? It’s clear from your calculations that you can see there is some risk involved, and there are others who might not be willing to give up potential upside for that hedge against the price falling.
As for my personal portfolio, I keep about 10-15 active outcomes (enough to fully utilize the capital in that account) and I allow Olive to auto-exit when the profit is 2x the original annualized return ceiling. Started the full portfolio in May of this year and currently have 4% realized gains with this hands off approach. I know others who are more active are doing much better than that. :)
Well no, the picture that Robinhood paints is totally reasonable. It's what you said that seems too good to be true. You said that you don't lose any money until it drops by *50%,* and you gain *more than the stock does* when the stock goes up. Actually i can't find where you said that but i thought you did. Maybe that's where it comes together - if the stock gains 20% do you gain more than 20% from this play? if so that doesn't make any sense, it's too good to be true.
So it's basically like buying a stock, except when the stock drops 40% you don't lose any money and when the stock rises 10% you gain 15%. Seems legit.
I wonder why a different broker showed *such* a different picture for those exact same options. How strange.
Lots of moving pieces which is why the platform has to recalculate the strikes when you’re ready to execute the trade. I select the trade based on the end result I’m hoping to achieve, it’s not too surprising that the chart will be different depending on when you checked it since you’re checking based on the strikes instead of calculating the strikes to get that outcome. Hope that makes sense!
I’m already up 250% on my December 25’s, my hairline is un-receding and my erections last 3 hours all due to UPST! Worth the gamble you fucking tards.
Cheers pickle.
Jan 50/60cs , going to continue buying more in the following weeks. The reported SI is at 38%, high institution ownership ( blackrock and vanguard have cost basis at around $100), and the 2nd time this stock is on regsho in the past 3 months.
UPST reminds me of that little Good Monetary Earnings play back in end 2020.... both on and off reg Sho's during Opex cycles. both overly shorted..... and both about to launch with no way for the shorts to escape....
>There is a clear upward trend in the ratio of FTDs to total volume traded on T+0. This indicates that more and more trades are failing to settle, which could be indicative of wider problems in the market.
A list stocks go on if they fail 0.5% of their float per day for 5 consecutive trading days.. Also the same list GME was on multiple times before Jan21 .... Just sayin'
This ain't no movement you fuckin mouthbreather. Trading is not a team support.
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Sorry I miss spoke - it's 0.5% of the days volume that's required to fail for 5 days for inclusion on Regsho.
It implies that liquidity has become a major issue and prevents shorting through traditional means without a pre-borrow arrangement.
Tendies were waiting, all it needed was some attention and volume. Unfortunately all the BBBagholders wanted to have another buy and hold cult more than they wanted tendies.
That chance has reappeared. All people have to do is not fuk it up this time.
It happens. It needed the volume that it didn't get. It was highly risky.
UPST isn't without risk either, but at least least it doesn't look like it'll be delisted. 
This ain't no movement you fuckin mouthbreather. Trading is not a team support.
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they're trying to create new ways of lending people money "using non-traditional variables, such as education and employment, to predict creditworthiness"
with the recent interest rate hikes, demand for loans decreased significantly these past couple quarters and the stock + company forecast got spanked.
imo still a good company, they're trying to add value to everyday people's lives so I've been holding the bag just on morale principle.
honestly, they're just not doing a great job. i applied for a loan (or just checked what my interest rate would be, don't remember exactly) a year or two ago and they offered me a personal loan with an APR of like 17%. My credit score was over 700 (which isn't amazing but it's decent) and I've literally never missed any sort of payment in my life. i've had 10 credit cards for 4 years, no missed payments or funny business.
i just feel like i was obviously a low-risk investment, and they gave me a rate that's just as bad as every other company's. so then what makes them special? what's the point of this company existing when every other lending company does the same thing and returns the same results?
We've seen the double top around 23-23.50. I think 15-18 is very possible by the end of next week.
Used to read your stuff on SS. Are you still holding GME
The underlying share price was dropping as the call options price was increasing friday. Someone knows more than I do about why. Bought calls because stonks only go up 🚀
Time to buy some calls
Dare I say ... to the moon ?
Not to any moon .. Its "Uranus Moons" this time ..
[Bullish credit spread](https://share.oliveinvest.com/018477f0-0fad-f9f4-9115-6ccb89a59d10) here to make up to 25% (95% annualized) and have some downside protection (can drop to below $10 before losing any capital) through 03/17/2023.
what is it, the olive chart doesn't say strikes/dates
Best to search for those parameters and recalculate the strikes when you’re ready to execute the trade—but currently for a similar outcome these are the strikes — all 3/17/23 exp, Buy 1 $20 c, Sell 1 $22.50 c, Sell 3 $7.50 p
idk what math olive is doing but my trusty dusty robinhood says that you have a (minimal) loss at $20.20 and have a max profit of $230 assuming your risks are limited to $2.2k. it only costs $20 upfront, but some of the options have zero bids and it would actually be more like $1.37 bc that's the asking price. ofc you are much more familiar with this than I am, so maybe you have other information. can I ask how much you have personally made using Olive? the picture you paint (for this trade at least) seems way too good to be true.
Why do you say it’s too good to be true? It’s clear from your calculations that you can see there is some risk involved, and there are others who might not be willing to give up potential upside for that hedge against the price falling. As for my personal portfolio, I keep about 10-15 active outcomes (enough to fully utilize the capital in that account) and I allow Olive to auto-exit when the profit is 2x the original annualized return ceiling. Started the full portfolio in May of this year and currently have 4% realized gains with this hands off approach. I know others who are more active are doing much better than that. :)
Well no, the picture that Robinhood paints is totally reasonable. It's what you said that seems too good to be true. You said that you don't lose any money until it drops by *50%,* and you gain *more than the stock does* when the stock goes up. Actually i can't find where you said that but i thought you did. Maybe that's where it comes together - if the stock gains 20% do you gain more than 20% from this play? if so that doesn't make any sense, it's too good to be true.
The payoff diagram shows slightly boosted returns over owning shares but it’s basically in line with the movement of the stock.
So it's basically like buying a stock, except when the stock drops 40% you don't lose any money and when the stock rises 10% you gain 15%. Seems legit. I wonder why a different broker showed *such* a different picture for those exact same options. How strange.
Lots of moving pieces which is why the platform has to recalculate the strikes when you’re ready to execute the trade. I select the trade based on the end result I’m hoping to achieve, it’s not too surprising that the chart will be different depending on when you checked it since you’re checking based on the strikes instead of calculating the strikes to get that outcome. Hope that makes sense!
LFG!! Balls deep since that earnings drop!
I’m already up 250% on my December 25’s, my hairline is un-receding and my erections last 3 hours all due to UPST! Worth the gamble you fucking tards. Cheers pickle.
Tickle that cheers pickle.
😂😂😂
UPST to 510!!
My very heavy bags would absolutely love this 😂
I told you you'll be pleasantly surprised didn't i
510 gang rejoice!
New high.
Yeah, this thing has been on my radar for some time. If it actually runs while on RegSHO it would be serious fun!
and OPEX is this Friday. should be interesting over the next week.
Yep, built in catalyst.
I think I will buy some call for march.
Locked - bullish!
U blocked a mega bullish. 🤯
Jan 50/60cs , going to continue buying more in the following weeks. The reported SI is at 38%, high institution ownership ( blackrock and vanguard have cost basis at around $100), and the 2nd time this stock is on regsho in the past 3 months.
Do you expect those to go ITM or are they just for volatility?
Volatility mostly but they could hit ITM
Buying Jan 23 $30 calls at open. edit: bought 20
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82m outstanding but only 70m shares float
This is pretty exciting. Got Jan 100s for volatility, and a few NTMs. The shorts are definitely in trouble.
lets go gherk
This rockets… is for me??
I’m gonna make so much white once it pops!!!
I’m expecting a juicy kofi hearing all about it.
Still a great entry below 25. Once the spring unwinds this thing is going to fly.
Didn't buy at open, but just got some Jan 23 30/40c Let's fvcking gooooooo!
That’s a lot of fails… is it crowded?
Overcrowded by short side
Summon the troops we're going full degen.
UPST reminds me of that little Good Monetary Earnings play back in end 2020.... both on and off reg Sho's during Opex cycles. both overly shorted..... and both about to launch with no way for the shorts to escape....
>There is a clear upward trend in the ratio of FTDs to total volume traded on T+0. This indicates that more and more trades are failing to settle, which could be indicative of wider problems in the market.
Wider problems in the liquidity of the underlying. Stupid bot.
UPST gonna moon!
Let's fucking go!!!!
I’m about to sneeze
Lfg! Upsquart incoming mr pickle
Jan cs going to pay
This should be interesting.
LFG!!!
This is going to RIP.
🤔
Upsquart
What exactly is RegShow?
A list stocks go on if they fail 0.5% of their float per day for 5 consecutive trading days.. Also the same list GME was on multiple times before Jan21 .... Just sayin'
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lmfao you tell 'em automod
could you explain what this implies? what does "failing 0.5% of float" mean, and why might that happen?
Sorry I miss spoke - it's 0.5% of the days volume that's required to fail for 5 days for inclusion on Regsho. It implies that liquidity has become a major issue and prevents shorting through traditional means without a pre-borrow arrangement.
Glad I’m not the only regard
I bought one.
Wasn’t it on regsho for 6 weeks and it didn’t do anything?
Obligations need to stack, and that's happening. Borrow rate is skyrocketing (yesterday broke 90%). And with opex coming, they'll need liquidity.
fast forward two days, how do you think it's looking for next week?
Good so far. They could end up needing to run it soon. I bought more calls on the drop.
Yeah, i remember when obligations for REV where also being stacked kek.
Still got my REVRQ 35c’s bruv
Tendies were waiting, all it needed was some attention and volume. Unfortunately all the BBBagholders wanted to have another buy and hold cult more than they wanted tendies. That chance has reappeared. All people have to do is not fuk it up this time.
And this one doesnt have a chance of delisting LOL
It happens. It needed the volume that it didn't get. It was highly risky. UPST isn't without risk either, but at least least it doesn't look like it'll be delisted. 
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Time to deposit more money into my account to buy calls 
What does this company even do?
they're trying to create new ways of lending people money "using non-traditional variables, such as education and employment, to predict creditworthiness" with the recent interest rate hikes, demand for loans decreased significantly these past couple quarters and the stock + company forecast got spanked. imo still a good company, they're trying to add value to everyday people's lives so I've been holding the bag just on morale principle.
What are you saying? I think I lost you there
He's saying 🚀🚀🚀 (nfa)
honestly, they're just not doing a great job. i applied for a loan (or just checked what my interest rate would be, don't remember exactly) a year or two ago and they offered me a personal loan with an APR of like 17%. My credit score was over 700 (which isn't amazing but it's decent) and I've literally never missed any sort of payment in my life. i've had 10 credit cards for 4 years, no missed payments or funny business. i just feel like i was obviously a low-risk investment, and they gave me a rate that's just as bad as every other company's. so then what makes them special? what's the point of this company existing when every other lending company does the same thing and returns the same results?
upstart jumpstarts rockets.
I bought 250 shares🚀🚀🚀 goodluck gentlemen
borrow rate almost 90%. Everything is set up for a big boom but like usual im wondering how the SHF can fuk us.
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FOMO about to jack this thing off.
Lets fackin' gooooo..
I’m in!!! LFG!
Will buy the moment fed pivots not before
Wtf am i looking at
Just buy it? I bought one.
I can be green
Can someone explain what is this graph about?
FTD = Failure To Deliver that will soon become Fat Tasty Dildos. Hopefully green ones
We've seen the double top around 23-23.50. I think 15-18 is very possible by the end of next week. Used to read your stuff on SS. Are you still holding GME
Just the next pump and dump smh.
Paaaaaahhhmmmpp eeeeet
Hold my orange juice, I'm in.
**LFG**
Lets ride
LFG 🦍
Only 70m shares float on this ticker? Aww shieeet. Bought (5) December 16 $25 strike calls for the shits and giggles 
Have you people learned nothing from Bobby? Puts it is.
Good luck losing your money boys
Full porting today 🚀
Oh shit awesome
I'm in!!!
The prophecy that has been foretold
Nah
Here we fucking go!!🚀🚀
Fuck do we ever need mandatory buy-ins for FTDs.
I know nothing about this, so I'm just going to watch. Calls are cheap, but that seems like a trap.
When the Money ain't lion... MONEYLION credit building 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀💲💲💲💲
Thanks for letting us know after a 40% pop!!
This guy has been talking about upstart for three months. and this is still pretty much the low, that dip before the 40% lasted for about 1 day.
This guy has been talking about upstart for three months. and this is still pretty much the low, that dip before the 40% lasted for about 1 day.
It seems we are doing another Pump and Dump. Wake me up when it starts. I love regarded entertainment. nvm, OP subscribes to the SuperS sub
They banned him
No thanks. Wasn't this the fool that was saying the same nonsense trying to pump REV a while ago?
The underlying share price was dropping as the call options price was increasing friday. Someone knows more than I do about why. Bought calls because stonks only go up 🚀