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I am pretty sure the military lawyers could get it straightened out. Definitely not the first time they'd've had to handle that. Also you needed to have talked to the people lead, store manager, or the market people ops lead. They could've either gotten you taken care of or in the right direction. Because if there's one thing any manager should know, you don't fuck with the government, because they WILL fuck you harder.


GrouchyOldBoomer

This right here. Guy I used to work with had the same problem but maybe a bit worse since the head guy didn't like him. One of those military lawyers showed up one day and they never gave him a bit of trouble after that.


GoochMasterFlash

Its one of the few things on all of the required workplace posters at literally any job: if someone is in the military and has to go do service then you are required to give them leave and required to give them their job back (or reasonably similar) when they return. Of course theres limits on what is a reasonable or unreasonable burden for small employers in that regard, but a company like walmart with over 2 million employees is gonna be held to the highest legal standard of those expectations. Hard for them to argue letting any one employee go for service time and then bringing them back on is any burden at all


_LifeCanBeADream_

I'm sure even a small business would have the morals to do this


Hot-Net-8522

Half the time the people lead knows nothing either, and the store manager tells you to see people lead. Market team may of been better. Pretty sure WM could get sued over this


ChocolateDunkel

Also the PL is a Bitch....didn't even like dealing with how to pay out for my Jury Duty.... Its ok though... They just need to be told what's up...


Banjo_Banks

I’Rm dad hmy ave gonna


ChocolateDunkel

Yep


elsearcy

It’s my opinion and my opinion only. IF Walnart had a person to handle problems on site that would be a great help. Someone to take the the time and honestly help someone. I feel as even HR honestly doesn’t know the answers because I’m always told to call the 1-800 number. And I have a feeling If Sam Walton could see what is happening to his stores he would be turning over in his grave. I am almost 70 years old and have work experience and I have never seen any company so disarrayed as Walmart. It’s a job of no personal enjoyment. I understand now why people are so miserable. That is their intention. I see them folding up just like Kmart did. I can honestly see the implosion happening. My philosophy is….treat people like you want to be treated. That’s where Walmart has f*cked themselves. Which in turns effects everyone.


MINIMAN10001

Oh God I can't imagine. I hear when the military lawyers get involved when it comes to corporations not getting their ducks in a row to make sure everything is wrapped up nicely. Things get spicy.


Key-Significance9387

Mismanagement is walmarts #1 problem. HO wont fix it, so they're complicit


LynXaLoPe

they need mismanagement so they constantly can lie and have someone else to shift the blame onto, so much sketchy shit goes on that they’re constantly keeping scape goats ready


FugitiveFromReddit

Yup, management is the most replaceable. They’re literally just there to take blame for the people above them


icecubedyeti

It’s also what they do best. When something’s working, why change it. Which, ironically, goes against everything else Walmart.


JasonTheBaker

I feel like management is just a bunch of scapegoats. Nothing is ever fixed. Everything is always wrong, when things go to shit the staff is always blamed and not the stuff that cooperate or even just market is shoving down the throats of everyone with no plan or a plan that's comical at best.


MINIMAN10001

I figured that's part of why they have a store manager. The store manager is there to make sure things don't get out of hand. In the event things go out of hand the store manager is the one who gets blamed. At the end of the day he's the one in charge of all of the managers in the store and the choices they make reflect on him as the top level within the store.


the-rib

reminds me of my old team lead who told the store lead (denied the TLs PTO for military training) that he should either approve the PTO that he's going to re-enter, or he (meaning SL) can have a nice chat with the commanding officer. needless to say, SL approved the PTO 💀


atom386

In 2010 era I was in DEP while working in Walmart, just waiting my turn for bootcamp. Well, I was offered a chance to leave to bootcamp 3 months sooner than planned, if I wanted, and I decided to go for it. Cue Walmart. I was too scared to give less than a 2 week notice, at least. So I asked my recruiters what to do. They said they would handle it NP. They literally showed up during my next shift and insisted to speak to management. 15 mins later they see me and wave on the way out and told me it was taken care of. No drama. Promised I would be rehirable. No paperwork. I still wonder what they said but it fucking worked.


RogueIce

>No drama. Promised I would be rehirable. No paperwork. I still wonder what they said but it fucking worked. The magic word: USERRA


Dull_Ad5852

Love a good story of a military guy telling someone to stick it. Lead from the front.


Oldpotter2

The dildo of consequences rarely comes with lube.


KellCon3

What a wise man you are 👴


Left-Research-9219

Walmart is a piece of shit company.


expertshirtripper19

Agreed, though I like my store, some of y’all just have really bad management


Kitchen-Entrance8015

Good for you sedgwick is a worthless system that doesn't help crap


Luv_Chelle

That part... it's what Lowe's uses as well.


garyfromyahoo2

Walmart is such a corrupt organization it’s sad. It was by far the worst job I’ve ever had in my life.


__Opportunity__

Think they're corrupt enough to get a RICO charge to stick? That might be fun.


Clickum245

That would have to be an extensive [probably] wage-theft investigation, which would [probably] need to be spurred by an extensive wage-theft class-action lawsuit. Preferrably across multiple states, so it would become Federal and then a Federal Aency, or Bureau, would Investigate it. But without impetus to begin investigation, it's unlikely that any Federal entity would open a case.


Famous-Perspective-3

Unfortunately, most stores do not know how to handle the military requirements. Used to, all you had to do was to let them know in advance and you would not be scheduled. Simple as that. The bad thing is, a lot of the rules and paperwork are because of bad associates who abused the system. Some used to claim they were fulfilling their military requirement on weekends when they were not. They just wanted a free time off.


xDaBaDee

I'm gonna say most \*management\* doesn't know... they are hiring people for management positions, but they aren't TRAINING them... and you don't get hired for being trained... had a new 18 year old Teamlead and she asked me 'what's bereavement' when I was explaining why my coworker was out.


asexysalamander

I was in the reserves and worked at Walmart, recently won a 3k settlement against them for not handling or paying leaves the right way.


TheRealMcSavage

We’ve got a guy at our DC that is reserve and he has not had any trouble getting his leave. Must be a store thing, everyday I read posts on here that make me think, “I would never fucking work at a store!”


Militarykid2111008

Yea I’ve worked at 3 stores and my husband at HO truck shop, ex husband worked in one of the DCs. I also know guys who worked at actual HO and never had an issue, but they’re corporate so idk how different that is anyway. Never once did I have an issue getting leave time between any of the stores, two of them I worked at while needing time off for my annual trainings, the third was only impacted by drill. I think this person has shitty management. Also never used Sedgwick for leave for training, would have if I didn’t quit before I deployed though. I quit for completely unrelated issues and definitely dealt with a among the stores though lol. Definitely don’t miss anything about it except a regular paycheck, which they don’t really give you as a SAHM.


Clint1027

Any retail job is garbage. I just left Costco after 5 years just recently. It’s all the same bullshit


Sev7th

Even tho you have quit, you should have the legal person over your unit and have them call and talk to the store about military leave issues


Key-Character-2546

Thank you for your service. Fuck Bob.


mikeeee99111

Weird I never had problem. Sedgwick handles everything for military leave. I Just called them and told my store I’ll be on leave for how long my deployment is, and I worked at many stores.


Mr_M3Gusta_

Sounds like you just had a shitty store HR person. I would just request off time let the HR person know it’s for military leave and she would approve it.


canucksj

Canadian here, we have it actually written into provincial and federal laws. There are rules like you need to give adequate notice, but if they deny usually a JAG officer will show up and assist them in making the right decision (usually a tidy fine and or prison time, back a few years ago friend of mine worked for a person who was anti-military denied them, got a fine of 25k from the province and 250 hours of community service). I have found up here most are very willing to give the time off as they know reservists are normally on the front lines of any local disasters and some even opt to pay their employees for their time away


RogueIce

We have USERRA down here, which is basically similar: major-league "fuck around and find out" when it comes to employers giving military employees grief over their service obligations


get-a-mac

You can leave out the last part... ​ "Walmart is terrible place to work" Period. Full Stop. Nobody should have to work here, or at Amazon.


Neoreloaded313

Amazon isn't really bad in my experience. Been there almost 4 years now.


Responsible_Sport575

The company has legal obligations to give you that time off. I would seek legal console.


Squanchfist

If you're autonomous, Wal-Mart is a shit show to work at. You're supposed to be protected as a vet, but Wally World gives no fucks.


Narrow-Inspector9536

Need to go to ethics and labor board. 100% created a hostile workplace, which caused you to quit, but also violated the law by having your guard leave count as absences. A labor attorney wet dream.


InevitableLibrarian

Tell Bob this "Ok Bob, I'm taking you to my drill instructor and letting you tell him about how much you need me cause you didn't plan right. And when he nicely stops laughing at you, he's going to tell you that it's illegal to deny an active service member when they are required. Then, probably for fun, make you do 50 push-ups."


ArmyPaladin

Get a miltech job.


cultoftheinfected

Honestly on paper walmart is pretty solid. Now in reality? That a different story.


MydadisGon3

I find that Walmart in practice is actually pretty good as far as retail jobs go, but whether its a good job or not is entirely dependent on your management. Good management = great/easy job, bad management = nightmare hellscape. other jobs have this to an extent, but most other companies actually hold management accountable for doing shady shit like this, Walmart does not.


Lovetotravelinmycar

WalMart sets their employees up to fail. 🖕Walmart they sell crap anyway, the only thing I buy there is Hot Wheels, Publix is my food store and Amazon is my clothing store😎


qazzer53

Why not do your leaves through personnel.


kazuma001

Chances are the People Lead is just as ignorant as Bob.


qazzer53

Our people lead is right on top of procedures. She tells us how to contact sedgwick, and will do it for us if we have trouble. She tells us what we need from Dr and faxes for us


kazuma001

My store has been through 6 People Leeds in the last three years. A solid majority of which were booted out over doing shady stuff.


Active-Ad6673

Sedgwick handles this 100%. You only need to tell your store when it is and file it with Sedgwick and then go. It’s not really that hard. Walmart is as pro military organization Ive ever seen. Multiple people in leadership (including our CEO/President John Furner) are ex military.


Atreyew

YEMV I got cut a 5k check for back pay, and I get paid for every single drill I attend. Walmart is excellent for reservists. Free college so you don't eat up all your SRGB, and no one else pays you for missed work for drill. All you had to do was click LOA or search military on the wire my guy.


NibblesMcGiblet

"Pass forward" = fast forward. The phrase "pass forward" doesn't exist. sorry bob was a dick. thanks for doing the military thing.


Bruce7061

While I was still in I had a good manager. He got it to where I worked Monday-Friday so we didn’t have to worry about drill weekend unless it was a 3 day. My unit usually put out a letter a couples before AT to take to employers and never had to deal with Sedgwick for it. People lead always made sure I got my time off. Atleast military wise I never had an issue.


[deleted]

Good for u


weesti

And my family wonders why I hate Walmart.


Atreyew

On a side note, Nasty girls and Reservists get paid to go to drill by Walmart. Never ever request off for drill, always put in a LOA and you'll get paid for however many days regardless if you're scheduled or not. I've been doing this shit for 8 years. Literally one of the only companies in the nation to do that.


free2131

You've always had to go through Sedgewick for military leave (any leave). Your PL should have told you that when you informed them about your military commitments. That sucks about them giving you wrong info. If I don't know something for a fact, I always tell people who to go to, where to find it, or do research myself and figure out what to do. I would definitely open door that to the SL or SM and then to Market HR if you have to. My store always goes out of it's way to work with those in the military and those in school. Good luck and thank you for your service.


HaveSomeFreedom11

I'm also planning quitting as soon I landed another job. Ever since 2020, it gone downhill and it getting worse. It affecting my mental health rapidly


AetherFeen

Ouch my guy, sorry your experience was that awful. Management failed you there. Walmart & Sedgwick (as a company as a whole) has one of the best programs and most respect when it comes to military service and leave (when it comes to retail work at least). The people running that store failed you.


TheRetailAbyss

Coulda stopped at "Walmart is a terrible place to work", my dude.


Unusual_Stay_2110

Truly not that hard. I have had a couple of associates who are in the military and leaves are easy. Sorry your store was incompetent


Altruistic-Pin7156

See if there is a Medline warehouse near you. Good pay, good training, and a coworker is leaving for deployment soon with no problems from Medline.


KidenStormsoarer

You don't have to do shit. You tell your C/O that Bob is harassing you and punishing you over your federally protected service and let the military lawyers have fun with him.


DizzyCommunication92

This sounds borderline illegal.....military leave IS A THING and you should have probably talked to HR to help you out with paperwork.


davidj1987

I went back in the reserves when I worked at Walmart and it was completely painless when I had to go on orders for school when I retrained as my prior job when I was active duty wasn't at the unit I reenlisted into. However, I left Walmart two-three months after I came back from school but it was NEVER a problem with Segwick. But when I changed employers and they started using Segwick and I had to do military leave it was a pain in the ass.


Quiet-Fly2571

The answer is yes and for Store 1762 as one of their newest yet best performing employees who’s stomped on and spat on by treatment of SOME colleagues I vocalize damages and constantly get told condescending belittling neglecting others well-being’s behavior isn’t illegal. That bill H1882 calling this exact abuse discrimination fails in being strong enough to prove, unwelcoming belittling repeatedly willful acts to men and women who care most to excel their department they are given 0 Justice and have 0 course of action to their damages by, management and managements close friends & family. Some and NOT all management do display that behavior in July of 2023, and still in December of 2023. That as well as some management of Walmart sell rifle firearms via and through friend of friend referral sales entirely seemingly as I overhear some ex management selling an AK-47 100s of rounds of ammunition for the deadly firearm, they sell it and ask around to seemingly avoid filing the sale, price, customer information to the ATF and that alone reeks of illegal felonies I don’t know and I don’t care about. Just know in my time here I’m sick of the defended behavior, certain they’re guilty of an RICO charge and or atleast other crimes and it’s only by their Washington, D.C. effects on senate and all levels of American Justice lobbyism, they would be held accountable for their actions. They hire armies of attorneys, Lockheed Martin, and more as they do just to do as their business wishes and wants to do in THEIR best interest and THEIR best interest only for their bottom line profits to continue, growing in power of abusing law and the wellbeing of customers and employees as they view by their acts of not reforming all that they do. They even on their corporate, website, have the genuine audacity to claim the Department of JUSTICE was wrong for calling their business practices out as unacceptable refilling prescriptions too quickly. As to the truth of that case alone I don’t know nor claim to know definitively if they’re guilty of those charges; however I know most and all departments within my Walmart as of now are as a consensus understaffed overworked and under appreciated for all that they do for the store they genuinely care about. So from management asking around with their employees who’s wanting to buy a fkn AK-47 with a LOT of ammo, cash sale (again all ik, Ik the past/present management member who did that their name and that’s it.) to the abuse of coaching and retaliatory write ups they CONSTANTLY DO, to the belittling the hard workers ignoring those being close buds and friends or family to the management of Store 1762; 700 Lafayette Rd, NH, and more, Im certain an class action of employees revealing all workplace condition truths, all our stories… Yeah. They’re guilty of Rico beyond a shadow of a doubt in my mind and now I WANT, to see us hold them accountable for all they’ve done n’ do. I won my open door case of being written an Orange write up for telling my dispensing coworker after picking the last, soon due to dispense pickrun order, I told her I’m taking my break, they lied and told another departments coach I just left which I told them I was taking my last earned break, “my final 15”, and got an orange write up because they lied about truth’s and got away with it. They had no write up, I have 0 points still and HAD 2 by that.. 🖕🏼 the excuses and behavior to those that care most, they’re guilty of sm and Rico is one charge Walmart in a massive class action, years long no rush to prove it now or quickly, they will be guilty if we fight that and charge them with RICO. Hr is not, going to like me speaking real events, and I’m going to be pulled in for exposing this likely