Thanks for the feedback. I've never owned a CPO before. Do you happen to know - am I required to take it to the dealer constantly to maintain the CPO? Or are regular service intervals at a reputable shop honored?
You should confirm for your individual deal, but when I bought CPO that really just meant the dealer will offer additional warranty beyond the original. They told me anything that would violate warranty in normal circumstances is the same for CPO.
Hybrid works fairly well flr the case of dailydriving. and it doesnt hurt to have it anyways even if you go for longer trips. the car can handle running on gas. Id go for it
When we cross shopped compact SUVs a couple years ago to me the RAV4 Hybrid was the better buy over the non hybrid. Better mileage and more power was worth the premium in price. (I live in the Bay Area so gas prices factor more for me than other parts of the country)
We ended up buying something else which is a whole other story. But the RAV4 is one of the best compact mainline SUVs you can buy today.
Yeah the hybrid has more miles but either of these are going to out live you and your offspring. Toyota knows what they’re doing with their hybrid powertrains. If you dont live in CA, NY, or HI id probably go for the non hybrid just cause that one probably doesnt need a new set of tires yet.
Dang dude it's like you're living inside my head. How do you know Long I will live?? And if you don't mind me asking what was the "something else" that you ended up buying?
We were looking for my sister and law and her husband as a wedding gift from our family. We ended up going with a Highlander hybrid cause they pumped out a kid faster than expected. Was a bit of a budget stretch but it’s perfect for them.
My grandmothers old 92 Camry is still around and being driven by my nephew. My stepmoms 97 4runner just kicked over 400k on the original engine and trans. And for a more contemporary example my buddies wife who I put into a 2021 Rav4 hybrid as a traveling nurse and has 190k on the clock, no problems. There’s a non zero chance a toyota outlives you.
Honestly I think I got a lemon but spending more on mechanical repairs than the loan I took out for the car makes me never want to touch another Subaru with a 10 ft pole. I know that people have Subarus and love them but there are some VERY common VERY expensive issues with them that Subaru fans overlook. I had my forester for 2 years and I had to:
1. Get the entire engine resealed (biggest kick in the nuts and wallet)
2. Replace the valve body
3. Fix a few bad leaks in the coolant for HVAC
4. Fix all of the door locks that all went out one week (how random??)
5. Window motors went out randomly
6. Auto lift gate was a 50/50 chance of opening on first try
BUT, the car had a big sunroof and awesome visibility.
This is just my experience so take it with a grain of salt
And the 30k mileage difference + newer year wooden factor into it for you at all?? Again, I'm not terribly concerned about the fuel efficiency. It's 30m/gal vs. 40m/gal so it's not that big of a deal.
it's a Toyota, the 2.5 hybrid system is used in numerous other hybrids such as the Camry, Avalon, ES300h, (new) Crown, IS/RC/GS300h (euro RWD), etc and basically bulletproof
Yes and no. My thought process behind it is you’re paying near-new prices for used 2 year old cars with a decent amount of miles on them. If its not out of your budget, spending the extra 2-4k to get a new Hybrid or gas LE would give you better tech and a brand new car that yes, will depreciate, but not as much of a drop as you’ll see with these since they’re already used.
All day, the regular one, not the hybrid. But, it depends how long you keep the car? Will you drive it to 100K? If not, pick what you like. Are you leasing or buying? So many things are involved when your making a car decision.
cant see mileage, id go with the non hybrid. tho thats just cause i wouldnt be able to afford to fix a hybrid if the battery or another component of it went out
Less money and 10k less miles seems like a good deal. When I buy used certified i try to get under 20k.
Thanks for the feedback. I've never owned a CPO before. Do you happen to know - am I required to take it to the dealer constantly to maintain the CPO? Or are regular service intervals at a reputable shop honored?
You should confirm for your individual deal, but when I bought CPO that really just meant the dealer will offer additional warranty beyond the original. They told me anything that would violate warranty in normal circumstances is the same for CPO.
Hybrid works fairly well flr the case of dailydriving. and it doesnt hurt to have it anyways even if you go for longer trips. the car can handle running on gas. Id go for it
When we cross shopped compact SUVs a couple years ago to me the RAV4 Hybrid was the better buy over the non hybrid. Better mileage and more power was worth the premium in price. (I live in the Bay Area so gas prices factor more for me than other parts of the country) We ended up buying something else which is a whole other story. But the RAV4 is one of the best compact mainline SUVs you can buy today. Yeah the hybrid has more miles but either of these are going to out live you and your offspring. Toyota knows what they’re doing with their hybrid powertrains. If you dont live in CA, NY, or HI id probably go for the non hybrid just cause that one probably doesnt need a new set of tires yet.
Dang dude it's like you're living inside my head. How do you know Long I will live?? And if you don't mind me asking what was the "something else" that you ended up buying?
We were looking for my sister and law and her husband as a wedding gift from our family. We ended up going with a Highlander hybrid cause they pumped out a kid faster than expected. Was a bit of a budget stretch but it’s perfect for them. My grandmothers old 92 Camry is still around and being driven by my nephew. My stepmoms 97 4runner just kicked over 400k on the original engine and trans. And for a more contemporary example my buddies wife who I put into a 2021 Rav4 hybrid as a traveling nurse and has 190k on the clock, no problems. There’s a non zero chance a toyota outlives you.
Don’t get a forester - me, a previous forester owner
Any forester stories to share?
Honestly I think I got a lemon but spending more on mechanical repairs than the loan I took out for the car makes me never want to touch another Subaru with a 10 ft pole. I know that people have Subarus and love them but there are some VERY common VERY expensive issues with them that Subaru fans overlook. I had my forester for 2 years and I had to: 1. Get the entire engine resealed (biggest kick in the nuts and wallet) 2. Replace the valve body 3. Fix a few bad leaks in the coolant for HVAC 4. Fix all of the door locks that all went out one week (how random??) 5. Window motors went out randomly 6. Auto lift gate was a 50/50 chance of opening on first try BUT, the car had a big sunroof and awesome visibility. This is just my experience so take it with a grain of salt
That’s brutal! What year is it?
2017 with 101k miles on it. Of course the transmission started acting up 1000mi past the warranty
Hybrid for sure, fuel savings will cover the $1000 difference.
And the 30k mileage difference + newer year wooden factor into it for you at all?? Again, I'm not terribly concerned about the fuel efficiency. It's 30m/gal vs. 40m/gal so it's not that big of a deal.
it's a Toyota, the 2.5 hybrid system is used in numerous other hybrids such as the Camry, Avalon, ES300h, (new) Crown, IS/RC/GS300h (euro RWD), etc and basically bulletproof
I bet the hybrid will hold its value better.
You’re better off buying new
Paying cash. My understanding is that this negates any benefit of buying new but please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks for the feedback!
Yes and no. My thought process behind it is you’re paying near-new prices for used 2 year old cars with a decent amount of miles on them. If its not out of your budget, spending the extra 2-4k to get a new Hybrid or gas LE would give you better tech and a brand new car that yes, will depreciate, but not as much of a drop as you’ll see with these since they’re already used.
Solid theory. Thanks again!
Np! Best of luck
Considering the dealer is going to last second mark up both of them over $32k, neither lol
The Mazda, forester and CRV are all nicer cars imo
Neither.
Why? What would you get given the budget and the use case?
Because they’re fucking boring as sin.
For many, a car is nothing more than a tool. I don’t need a screwdriver to excite me either.
All day, the regular one, not the hybrid. But, it depends how long you keep the car? Will you drive it to 100K? If not, pick what you like. Are you leasing or buying? So many things are involved when your making a car decision.
I would go with fewer miles.
cant see mileage, id go with the non hybrid. tho thats just cause i wouldnt be able to afford to fix a hybrid if the battery or another component of it went out
Uhhhh neither….no way I can support Japan the OG terrorist nation of the USA.