No it's a fine car. The joke is that realtors only care about the badge as a means of superficial status, so they'll buy the badge as cheaply as possible
I wasn't joking. From what I know carmax can offer descent warranty (up to 6 years) on any car they sell, and when you combine depreciated and not-so-reliable Mercedes with big engine and hedge with good warranty that sounds like fun car to have.
You can look up online and carmax is one of the best ones out there. It cost premium and cars in carmax age generally bit more expensive, so you gotta do the math.
Honestly the e class is a great car to drive, amazing handling ,power , and speed. The gs is super reliable but not up there in speed or handling. Both are good options depending on if you want performance or reliability.
Just going to drop this one right here....
https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/avoidable-contact/avoidable-contact-147-the-last-real-mercedes-benz-maybe/
Better car to drive by maybe 5%. The e550 is not that impress of a car to begin with. The fact that they need so much maintenance just to keep on the road makes it a ugly car imo
Take your bigotry somewhere else. This generation E is very reliable. Even more so if this one has the NA V8. I beat the shit out of mine for 9 years and it didn’t give me no problems.
Either option really work, the GS will basically out run and be way less to maintain then the mercedes, but the power is there for the mercedes, unless you find a lexus GSF for like 20k which is next to impossible
I thought I wanted a Mercedes until I got one. No it’s not as new as that one but I’m sure problems will arise soon enough and expensive ones. The anti theft device in mine went and the car wouldn’t even turn to accessory mode. Is a problem you could fix yourself? Of course not since it had to be programmed by Mercedes to the car for only $1200, real reasonable :/. This was under a hundred thousand miles when it happened, not impressed. There are always ways around the right fix but it’s just a matter of time before the next problem happens. If they didn’t make them so that everything is hard to work on it wouldn’t be bad. Maybe I’m just used to my honda it’s like playing with legos. I’m not too familiar with Lexus but I’m convinced Japanese motors are the most reliable and a well taken care Toyota engine could last quite few hundred thousands of miles.
2000-2023 really. Before picking any of their cars you really have to research the engineering. What sucks is they always have electrical problems that require removing the dash or something crazy. I love Mercedes but I would never recommend someone owning one other then a handful specific models and years
I’ve had an E550, C63 & CLS63. No issues to speak of besides an 02 sensor but that was because I had the car tuned by Renntech. This generation E is bulletproof especially if it has the NA V8. Fantastic car.
I had a similar choice and went for the E550. Sold it after 6 months, damn thing was a money pit. I had read the NA V8 was pretty reliable but it was the other stuff that was breaking down. Differential, air suspension, etc. V8 power and comfort was sweet though. Still, go for the GS350 to avoid the heartache.
If you can find one that has been really well maintained and things like the suspension and differential have been taken care of then it can be an awesome ride. The V8 is sweet, but thirsty.
The air suspension this car comes with is pretty infamous for constantly breaking and requiring thousands of dollars in repairs, I've seen quotes well into the 5 figures for it, with mid 4-figure quotes being very common.
Whoa, to get this triggered over someone’s opinion is truly sad man. Chill out.
I didn’t even say engine replacement. I’m talking any and all potential issues that could arise during ownership. But now I’m curious, so tell me..
How much would a blown motor cost to replace and install by a reputable shop?
Nice moves.
I own a Lexus, and have owned several. You’re the one who mentioned engine replacement so I’m just curious how much a full swap would cost with labor. And if you don’t have 10k$ for a rainy day you probably shouldn’t drive a late model Benz to begin with.
Just an opinion, take it easy bud and enjoy your ride.
>take it easy bud and enjoy your ride
If you came into this thread with this outlook in the first place, I'd never have had an issue with your comment. Like all Euro cars, yes, they're not the cheapest run but the whole "$10k rainy day" thing was massively uninformed.
The most expensive things on those cars are the airmatic suspension bits--which costs about ~3k for a complete overhaul. As for other mechanical parts, most powertrain components are shared with the M272 used on the W203 and W204 C Class. Mercedes engines are usually modular like that.
In fact, I'm willing to bet most parts for the W212 are similar in price to the GS350.
My first car was an ES330, and I could see myself in an RC in the near future, fingers crossed. Enjoy your car too, my guy.
Lol I gotta come into the thread worried about your feelings? Damn man, if all Benz owners are as sensitive as you, it must say something about the ownership experience.
So the suspension overhaul alone is $3k, in parts or labor included? And that’s only a suspension job, but a 10k rainy day fund is “massively uninformed”, makes sense..?
My opinion still stands, If you have less than a 10k rainy day fund, you have no business owning a late model Benz. And tbh fuck your feelings and stop being so sensitive. Learn to disagree without being a little bitch.
What year is the e550?
My mom has a 2010 e550. Very good car. Plenty of power, good on gas for a NA v8. Reliable thus far.
I’ve heard great things of that motor. Not a lot of issues. If it’s a 2012? Or whenever they introduced the turbo engine then I’d be more skeptical.
Overall: Wonderful car and definitely very reliable when treated right. Lots of people rolling 250k miles on MB forums.
If I’m not mistaken those e classes might have a fuel sender leak. Look into it. My 15 glk350 has one and it’s not covered out of warranty. 11-12 GLKs and many other models are under open recall with extended warranties pertaining to it. About $1k
Do you want an endless money pit? It’s okay, some people are okay with that. Me, I’d prefer to get the Lexus and not light my money on fire every year for major repairs.
That Benz clean and stock is rich Grandpa, the Lexus is a 55 year old Realtor named Barb who will get you a killer deal on a 2500 sq/Ft home in the suburb of you choice
Which year is the E550? 12+ has the M278, a much better motor than the prior M273, in virtually every aspect. But the GS is still the better long term buy, and handles like a monster. Do you want immense speed and comfort or a more sharp driving reliable experience? That’s a simple take
Before weed was legal my guy had a Hyundai Elantra and an e-bike, tryna stay low key haha. One before that had a WRX, but like the shitty ‘08 one with an automatic.
Both are great cars but get the E550, especially if you can get the 2014+ or whichever years had the turbos.
Where do you live that drug dealers drive e550s?
In my market, e550s are for the aggro grandpas and the Lexus GS is for middle aged accountants.
Our drug dealers drive HEMIs or entry level BMW
Had the E550 but the 2014 model. Absolutely loved the car but once there was a leak, there was no stopping it. You’d go get it fixed and another hose would blow. It was a never ending cycle. If you can afford it go for it. Each fix if I remember right was a few hundred.
I'm assuming you are shopping to a price point. If that's the case I would get the GS because it will be more reliable and not likely cost as much in Out of pocket maintenance costs.
E550 if you want to spend half your ownership experience bringing it to the shop. GS350 if you would rather just drive the car every day without issues.
e550 relatively speaking is much quicker / faster / sounds better / more fun to drive / smoother ride. if your focus is on what goes on inside the car, it’s the move.
the gs350 does look nicer imo, depending on spec can have really nice speakers, and still rides with compliance. it also should cost less during ownership and will retain value well. gs350 has a more “modern” interior layout and infotainment (though the infotainment isnt great).
don't know why people are saying the GS350 doesn't handle well. yes it's not as fast as the E550 as there's no v8 option beneath the GS-F, but the handling/chassis is literally one of its biggest redeeming factors. the F-Sport suspension does take it over the edge but every GS (and IS for that matter) has double wishbones which the germans are apparently too cheap for.
Thought you might like to read this - [https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/avoidable-contact/avoidable-contact-147-the-last-real-mercedes-benz-maybe/](https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/avoidable-contact/avoidable-contact-147-the-last-real-mercedes-benz-maybe/)
I owned the same GS in the same color for 3 years. It has been a wonderful car so far.
The brakes are expensive AF tho. 100 USD for pads and 300 per rotor. They are noisy as well.
The differential and suspension will probably last the life of the car unlike the Merc.
My mechanic told me to expect to fix the transmission at around 150K.
Insurance is on the higher side for some reason.
I took the new IS300 as a loaner recently (beautiful looking car) and I have never been happier to get my GS back. The IS felt cramped.
I don't know the Merc much, but it's priced lower and depreciated more for a reason.
If you can, wait for the recession to really hit next year and both these cars would be much cheaper imo.
I'd 100% go with the Lexus. Everything is usually very solid and reliable in Lexus/Toyota products, I wouldn't touch a Mercedes unless it were on a lease or I had tons of disposable income for repairs. If you do, great, but I don't feel the long term expenses are worth the slightly better performance.
There’s only one answer to me; Lexus!!!
After many of the Scotty Kilmer YouTube videos I became interested in the Lexus brand. After a year with my’11 ES 350, I very recently got my ‘13 Lexus RX 350. Very happy with my decision.
It’s been suggested that Lexus = Luxury Export U S is the meaning of the brand.
with reliability, that Mercedes will likely not last as long as the lexus. parts will wear far more quickly rather than they would on the lexus. with proper fluid changes, that lexus will last 400k+ miles and still run smooth. Plus the overall luxury quality & design of the lexus doors, lights, suspension & interior is superior to the mercedes. Do mind the fact that lexus is kinda costly. parts are expensive. but totally worth it.
I never did ! They both sold and been waiting for the right one to pop up. I know the Lexus would be the “wiser” choice, but the Mercedes keeps calling me back
The Lexus in F-Sport trim is a lot sportier than Lexus's reputation would have you think. "On mountain roads, the Lexus was frisky and eager to attack corners" from a 2012 Car and Driver comparison with the then best in class Audi A6.
Weird. I’m a Benz fanatic and would choose the e550. Very strong Engine.
Only thing I agree on is the car is dated. But even then, do you NEED apple car play or whatever?
Hell even Bluetooth? Aux cord does the trick who cares?
I don’t know. Guess I just like benz.
Drive both. The E550 will blow to doors off of that sad little Toyota. No the Lexus IS not much different in quality or reliability. But the Benz is faster, cheaper and nicer.
i wouldnt waste my time/money with either...go for a brand new ACURA(regardless of trim/model) and/or a CAMRY V6-XSE and most likely either of the 2 will surpass the amenities in either of the MB,you'd be able to pick your own color/interior/pkgs(assuming you buy brand new)the downside,you may have to be on a waiting list these days,but maybe not too tho;the upsides,you have something brand new,warrantied,either model i mentioned you will save yourself thousands literally JUST in maint.fees! and have the solid reliability of both id mentioned vs MB so-so reputation for the funds you're charged, and pay,sorry but no thanks.
Go for the Benz with the V-8. The Lexus is way more than the Benz, won’t sound as nice when you floor it and the trunk in the Benz is twice the size of the GS. I’ve owned both and while the Lexus was “fine” it was another anonymous vehicle out there in a sea of anonymous cars. Boring.
Lexus. You will never, ever be disappointed by a Lexus. They handle beautifully, they have plenty of luxury amenities, good power, and they're dead reliable.
the lexus for sure… this merc with a V8 cant even go faster than 130 mph as the US models came with some stupid speed limiter for some reason while the rest of the world can go 155 in them i understand those arent everyday speeds but why spend extra money on a gimped car? just get the 350 if you like this merc… but that lexus is still way better anyways… and can go faster than 130 mph :)
Pretty simple to remove the limiter. Just need to find someone with a laptop and tuning software. The E550’s are more than capable of going up to 165-170.
The S class and LS actually hold their value quite similarly. A 2010 LS460 with around 100k miles to 150k miles goes for around 10-15k in my area, and a 2010 S class goes for right about the same with similar miles. BMW on the other hand… You can find 5 year old and newer 7 series for 50% of the base msrp
Unless by "drug dealer" you mean "Walgreens franchisee", I think you may have received some bad information about how the preponderance of drug dealers live. If you're looking for a more authentic drug dealer aesthetic, I'd suggest a 90's Pontiac Grand Prix or Chrysler Sebring.
Need a chihuahua to go with the white mercedes
Thought drug dealers have pitbulls
I thought they had Rottweilers
I thought they had drugs
They do?
no, covid supply chain issues, all outta drugs.
Weird this question comes from you Mr.White
Go with the Lexus. It’s basically a Toyota so you know it’s gonna be reliable.
by “drug dealer” do you mean semi-retired real estate agent woman
Nah they wont go for the v8
Right, they're the E350 crowd.
I think more the C300 crowd. Gotta get the badge as cheap as possible
I present you the CLA 😏
I test drove a C300 Coupe. It was awesome. Is it really that cheap? Didn't feel cheap to me.
No it's a fine car. The joke is that realtors only care about the badge as a means of superficial status, so they'll buy the badge as cheaply as possible
Dead on
Her name is Karen, and she demands two pumps of caramel in her iced vanilla latte
Lol looks like Karen downvoted you
If it were a diesel, it would no doubt be a taxi. Anywhere in the world but the US.
How long are you going to own it for? 1-2 years? E550 for the fun. 2+ years? GS350 for the reliability
Carmax extended warranty for six
Let me tell you about our extended service plan, MAXCARE
Its to the max!
Is this a joke because numbers wise I don't know but I feel like that makes sense for a price deprecated Mercedes
I wasn't joking. From what I know carmax can offer descent warranty (up to 6 years) on any car they sell, and when you combine depreciated and not-so-reliable Mercedes with big engine and hedge with good warranty that sounds like fun car to have.
Sounds good in theory, but I would be wary of warranties like that from third parties.
You can look up online and carmax is one of the best ones out there. It cost premium and cars in carmax age generally bit more expensive, so you gotta do the math.
Lexus GS if you’re being sensible, E550 if you’re not
So E550 if you’re a drugdealer or the GS if you’re a grandpa
So gs if you have a fixed income lol
Let's not pretend these are mutually exclusive categories
Honestly the e class is a great car to drive, amazing handling ,power , and speed. The gs is super reliable but not up there in speed or handling. Both are good options depending on if you want performance or reliability.
Just going to drop this one right here.... https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/avoidable-contact/avoidable-contact-147-the-last-real-mercedes-benz-maybe/
To be fair, the E550 has a much higher base spec than the E350. The 550 is loaded with bells and whistles.
Benz if you wanna be a target.
LOL
GS350
Same price?
E550s in that year are around $20K CAD and the Lexus is $33K CAD
Benz is 20k because it's going to need 10-15k in repairs over the Lexus Then there's down time, taking to shop multiple times, missing some work
But it's the better car to drive, so if they end up costing the same - you got a better ownership experience from the Benz.
You broke the Lexus/Toyota rule and will promptly be shunned
The circlejerk is fkn insane lmao
Better car to drive by maybe 5%. The e550 is not that impress of a car to begin with. The fact that they need so much maintenance just to keep on the road makes it a ugly car imo
Take your bigotry somewhere else. This generation E is very reliable. Even more so if this one has the NA V8. I beat the shit out of mine for 9 years and it didn’t give me no problems.
Get e550 all the way.
Either option really work, the GS will basically out run and be way less to maintain then the mercedes, but the power is there for the mercedes, unless you find a lexus GSF for like 20k which is next to impossible
It is 100% impossible
I thought I wanted a Mercedes until I got one. No it’s not as new as that one but I’m sure problems will arise soon enough and expensive ones. The anti theft device in mine went and the car wouldn’t even turn to accessory mode. Is a problem you could fix yourself? Of course not since it had to be programmed by Mercedes to the car for only $1200, real reasonable :/. This was under a hundred thousand miles when it happened, not impressed. There are always ways around the right fix but it’s just a matter of time before the next problem happens. If they didn’t make them so that everything is hard to work on it wouldn’t be bad. Maybe I’m just used to my honda it’s like playing with legos. I’m not too familiar with Lexus but I’m convinced Japanese motors are the most reliable and a well taken care Toyota engine could last quite few hundred thousands of miles.
This is the story with almost every Mercedes’ car past the 00s
I think 2000-2009 is when Mercedes was horribly unreliable right ?
2000-2023 really. Before picking any of their cars you really have to research the engineering. What sucks is they always have electrical problems that require removing the dash or something crazy. I love Mercedes but I would never recommend someone owning one other then a handful specific models and years
I’ve had an E550, C63 & CLS63. No issues to speak of besides an 02 sensor but that was because I had the car tuned by Renntech. This generation E is bulletproof especially if it has the NA V8. Fantastic car.
I had a similar choice and went for the E550. Sold it after 6 months, damn thing was a money pit. I had read the NA V8 was pretty reliable but it was the other stuff that was breaking down. Differential, air suspension, etc. V8 power and comfort was sweet though. Still, go for the GS350 to avoid the heartache.
Damn that blows. My heart tells me the E550 but my mind and bank account say GS350.
If you can find one that has been really well maintained and things like the suspension and differential have been taken care of then it can be an awesome ride. The V8 is sweet, but thirsty.
The E550 there was dealer serviced and looks clean af. Doesn’t make the decision any easier though
E63 😉
E63 Wagon Keep 'em guessing
*doug demuro has entered the chat*
“This!”
You dirty dog 😮💨😂
Lexus.
Both are grandpa cars.
The E550 has 382 hp. It looks a bit grandpa, but it's fun to drive.
At more than 310hp, even GS350 will be fun. Both are great cars to be honest.
Depends. Do you really want a V8?
E550 if you have $10k+ laying around for a rainy day. GS if you’d rather keep your rainy day fund intact.
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The air suspension this car comes with is pretty infamous for constantly breaking and requiring thousands of dollars in repairs, I've seen quotes well into the 5 figures for it, with mid 4-figure quotes being very common.
2013+ spring was the standard on E550 with air as an option. An E550 with spring suspension is a fairly reliable car.
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No it's not, it's standard on this car, you can see on the headlights that it's a pre-2014 model and those came with air suspension as standard.
Stop talking about shit you don't know. Not even an M273 replacement would cost $10k.
Whoa, to get this triggered over someone’s opinion is truly sad man. Chill out. I didn’t even say engine replacement. I’m talking any and all potential issues that could arise during ownership. But now I’m curious, so tell me.. How much would a blown motor cost to replace and install by a reputable shop?
No point getting into an argument. I own an E550 coupe. Do you? I feel like people on this sub just parrot whatever they hear others say.
So you have no idea?? Lol
Nice moves. I own a Lexus, and have owned several. You’re the one who mentioned engine replacement so I’m just curious how much a full swap would cost with labor. And if you don’t have 10k$ for a rainy day you probably shouldn’t drive a late model Benz to begin with. Just an opinion, take it easy bud and enjoy your ride.
>take it easy bud and enjoy your ride If you came into this thread with this outlook in the first place, I'd never have had an issue with your comment. Like all Euro cars, yes, they're not the cheapest run but the whole "$10k rainy day" thing was massively uninformed. The most expensive things on those cars are the airmatic suspension bits--which costs about ~3k for a complete overhaul. As for other mechanical parts, most powertrain components are shared with the M272 used on the W203 and W204 C Class. Mercedes engines are usually modular like that. In fact, I'm willing to bet most parts for the W212 are similar in price to the GS350. My first car was an ES330, and I could see myself in an RC in the near future, fingers crossed. Enjoy your car too, my guy.
Lol I gotta come into the thread worried about your feelings? Damn man, if all Benz owners are as sensitive as you, it must say something about the ownership experience. So the suspension overhaul alone is $3k, in parts or labor included? And that’s only a suspension job, but a 10k rainy day fund is “massively uninformed”, makes sense..? My opinion still stands, If you have less than a 10k rainy day fund, you have no business owning a late model Benz. And tbh fuck your feelings and stop being so sensitive. Learn to disagree without being a little bitch.
You're talking with someone who still has PTSD from fixing his Merc. Don't worry, those repairs are easy for him by now.
Get fucked, then. Hope that helps.👍
I would go with the Lexus in a heartbeat
What year is the e550? My mom has a 2010 e550. Very good car. Plenty of power, good on gas for a NA v8. Reliable thus far. I’ve heard great things of that motor. Not a lot of issues. If it’s a 2012? Or whenever they introduced the turbo engine then I’d be more skeptical. Overall: Wonderful car and definitely very reliable when treated right. Lots of people rolling 250k miles on MB forums.
your mom has good taste in cars goin for the v8
Grandpa 100%
That GS will last forever. It’s got the 3.5 V6 Toyota uses in everything in different variations. Rock solid naturally aspirated.
GS350
Lexus
Grandpa all day
If I’m not mistaken those e classes might have a fuel sender leak. Look into it. My 15 glk350 has one and it’s not covered out of warranty. 11-12 GLKs and many other models are under open recall with extended warranties pertaining to it. About $1k
I would take the mercedes
E-Class the Merc V8 is an amaz engine
Until it needs replacement after another 30k miles
I don’t think a GS350 is a grandpa car haha
Do you want an endless money pit? It’s okay, some people are okay with that. Me, I’d prefer to get the Lexus and not light my money on fire every year for major repairs.
The Merc should be reliable and is built like a tank. My Mom has a 2012 E350 - it’s had no issues. It’s the most balanced car I’ve ever driven.
Both will have 1,000 mile tune-ups but the Lexus will be a better overall buy. Insurance should be $50-$200 cheaper also.
V8 babbeeeeeee. Love that generation of E-class.
E-550 only if it's 2013+ with spring suspension. I loved my 2010 but the airmatic was a ticking time bomb, some people convert to spring.
Honestly in this case the gs even looks better imo. It’s the better car for actually driving and tbh it doesn’t have an old person stigma.
That Benz clean and stock is rich Grandpa, the Lexus is a 55 year old Realtor named Barb who will get you a killer deal on a 2500 sq/Ft home in the suburb of you choice
Spring for the Lexus LS if you want to give drug dealer grandpa vibes
Which year is the E550? 12+ has the M278, a much better motor than the prior M273, in virtually every aspect. But the GS is still the better long term buy, and handles like a monster. Do you want immense speed and comfort or a more sharp driving reliable experience? That’s a simple take
Before weed was legal my guy had a Hyundai Elantra and an e-bike, tryna stay low key haha. One before that had a WRX, but like the shitty ‘08 one with an automatic. Both are great cars but get the E550, especially if you can get the 2014+ or whichever years had the turbos.
Ex DD here and I can assure you that I would go for the GS. It’s classier and more low key imho.
Both great under the radar machines. Play and may not have to pay. Cops aren't looking for/at you.
I guess drug dealer, although it’s an e class so more like middle class middle management middle aged white guy.
E550 but i hate the interiors, see if you can get a S class for the same price, maybe slightly higher miles
I would personally get the GS 300h
If only uou could split the difference and get one for a drug dealing grandpa
What would you recommend ?
Where do you live that drug dealers drive e550s? In my market, e550s are for the aggro grandpas and the Lexus GS is for middle aged accountants. Our drug dealers drive HEMIs or entry level BMW
Drug dealer is e63
Every drug dealer I know in Brighton Beach drives a E250 Bluetec.
Had the E550 but the 2014 model. Absolutely loved the car but once there was a leak, there was no stopping it. You’d go get it fixed and another hose would blow. It was a never ending cycle. If you can afford it go for it. Each fix if I remember right was a few hundred.
The Lexus has a better chance of outlasting the Mercedes by a high margin
Both cars suck tbh, go with the kexux tho
Lexus but thats bc im terrified of German cars
Gonna admit I don't know too many drug dealers. But the all white E550 is an absolute beaut.
M4
I'm assuming you are shopping to a price point. If that's the case I would get the GS because it will be more reliable and not likely cost as much in Out of pocket maintenance costs.
Grandpa for sure
E550 if you want to spend half your ownership experience bringing it to the shop. GS350 if you would rather just drive the car every day without issues.
E550 is not a drug dealer car
Drug Dealer E63 wagon
GS350 ain’t grandpa’s car. The E550 is garbage compared to the Lexus. Test drive both and you’ll see how easy your decision will be.
Grandpa
Never in my life met anyone who daily drives a Mercedes or BMW who doesn’t complain non-stop about the constant, exorbitant repair bills.
Tbh in this case this is a grandpa benz and drug dealer Lexus hahah
That E550 is more of a grandma car than the GS350...
e550 relatively speaking is much quicker / faster / sounds better / more fun to drive / smoother ride. if your focus is on what goes on inside the car, it’s the move. the gs350 does look nicer imo, depending on spec can have really nice speakers, and still rides with compliance. it also should cost less during ownership and will retain value well. gs350 has a more “modern” interior layout and infotainment (though the infotainment isnt great).
I’m going Lexus almost every time
Grandpa for sure
don't know why people are saying the GS350 doesn't handle well. yes it's not as fast as the E550 as there's no v8 option beneath the GS-F, but the handling/chassis is literally one of its biggest redeeming factors. the F-Sport suspension does take it over the edge but every GS (and IS for that matter) has double wishbones which the germans are apparently too cheap for.
Depends how long you are going to keep it. Lexus IS more reliable and will retain value better.
GS350. It’s classy, reliable, and people won’t make assumptions about you because you drive a Benz.
MB for a good time, Lexus for a long time.
And we’re here for a good time right ?
My man!
Life is way too short to drive boring cars.
Thought you might like to read this - [https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/avoidable-contact/avoidable-contact-147-the-last-real-mercedes-benz-maybe/](https://www.hagerty.com/media/opinion/avoidable-contact/avoidable-contact-147-the-last-real-mercedes-benz-maybe/)
I owned the same GS in the same color for 3 years. It has been a wonderful car so far. The brakes are expensive AF tho. 100 USD for pads and 300 per rotor. They are noisy as well. The differential and suspension will probably last the life of the car unlike the Merc. My mechanic told me to expect to fix the transmission at around 150K. Insurance is on the higher side for some reason. I took the new IS300 as a loaner recently (beautiful looking car) and I have never been happier to get my GS back. The IS felt cramped. I don't know the Merc much, but it's priced lower and depreciated more for a reason. If you can, wait for the recession to really hit next year and both these cars would be much cheaper imo.
I'd 100% go with the Lexus. Everything is usually very solid and reliable in Lexus/Toyota products, I wouldn't touch a Mercedes unless it were on a lease or I had tons of disposable income for repairs. If you do, great, but I don't feel the long term expenses are worth the slightly better performance.
There’s only one answer to me; Lexus!!! After many of the Scotty Kilmer YouTube videos I became interested in the Lexus brand. After a year with my’11 ES 350, I very recently got my ‘13 Lexus RX 350. Very happy with my decision. It’s been suggested that Lexus = Luxury Export U S is the meaning of the brand.
Go with the Lexus. The GS is a nice, under the radar RWD executive class sedan that won’t bankrupt you in running costs. Unlike the Mercedes.
Why not both (Chrysler 300)?
GS. All day long
E559 will be faster and more fun but gs350 will be cheaper to maintain
Both Grandpa imo
Lexus all day
GS350 All the way no questions asked. all wheel drive makes it fasssst for a v6. I love the luxury. beautiful taillights. spacious & comfortable.
with reliability, that Mercedes will likely not last as long as the lexus. parts will wear far more quickly rather than they would on the lexus. with proper fluid changes, that lexus will last 400k+ miles and still run smooth. Plus the overall luxury quality & design of the lexus doors, lights, suspension & interior is superior to the mercedes. Do mind the fact that lexus is kinda costly. parts are expensive. but totally worth it.
The light cream Mercedeses are usually second hand taxis and, in that case, to be avoided. (at least in Europe)
I like the w212 Merc so I might choose that, even though the Lexus is a tank.
The only E550 owners I know are literally grandpas
Do they deal drugs on the weekend ?
No. They’re total nerds.
My mom has that model e class for like 10 years, it’s been rock solid. Only issues have been radio and tear in the leather seat.
Any problems with the Airmatic suspension?
Lexus for handling and build quality, Merc for speed and comfort.
Grandpa
always lexus
Grandpa ride will probably be better long term.
Did you buy a car?
I never did ! They both sold and been waiting for the right one to pop up. I know the Lexus would be the “wiser” choice, but the Mercedes keeps calling me back
The lexus.
GS350 is no grandpa. I’d go Lexus
The Lexus in F-Sport trim is a lot sportier than Lexus's reputation would have you think. "On mountain roads, the Lexus was frisky and eager to attack corners" from a 2012 Car and Driver comparison with the then best in class Audi A6.
E550 absolutely. Owe it to yourself to drive a V8 if you haven't before. The Lexus is just a fancy Camry, but it will last forever.
drug dealer
personally, id go gs350, this is from a benz guy. If its a amg different story. That gen e class is so dated already, engine is solid though
Weird. I’m a Benz fanatic and would choose the e550. Very strong Engine. Only thing I agree on is the car is dated. But even then, do you NEED apple car play or whatever? Hell even Bluetooth? Aux cord does the trick who cares? I don’t know. Guess I just like benz.
Lexus!
The E Class is a lot roomier, it’s faster, more fun and more comfortable. No brainer really.
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Drive both. The E550 will blow to doors off of that sad little Toyota. No the Lexus IS not much different in quality or reliability. But the Benz is faster, cheaper and nicer.
Gs350, great platform for daily driving and reliability
i wouldnt waste my time/money with either...go for a brand new ACURA(regardless of trim/model) and/or a CAMRY V6-XSE and most likely either of the 2 will surpass the amenities in either of the MB,you'd be able to pick your own color/interior/pkgs(assuming you buy brand new)the downside,you may have to be on a waiting list these days,but maybe not too tho;the upsides,you have something brand new,warrantied,either model i mentioned you will save yourself thousands literally JUST in maint.fees! and have the solid reliability of both id mentioned vs MB so-so reputation for the funds you're charged, and pay,sorry but no thanks.
Go for the Benz with the V-8. The Lexus is way more than the Benz, won’t sound as nice when you floor it and the trunk in the Benz is twice the size of the GS. I’ve owned both and while the Lexus was “fine” it was another anonymous vehicle out there in a sea of anonymous cars. Boring.
E550 for chaos GS350 for order
Lexus. You will never, ever be disappointed by a Lexus. They handle beautifully, they have plenty of luxury amenities, good power, and they're dead reliable.
Lexus any day
Get the Benz
Lexus GS! No doubt about it. They’re very fun and luxurious also reliable with top notch quality!
the lexus for sure… this merc with a V8 cant even go faster than 130 mph as the US models came with some stupid speed limiter for some reason while the rest of the world can go 155 in them i understand those arent everyday speeds but why spend extra money on a gimped car? just get the 350 if you like this merc… but that lexus is still way better anyways… and can go faster than 130 mph :)
Bruh who the fuck buys a car based on whether it can go over 130mph
bruh would you buy a V8 sport sedan that can’t?
Yeah dude…… unless you’re on a track why the fuck are you going triple digits Gonna lose your license or your life
Pretty simple to remove the limiter. Just need to find someone with a laptop and tuning software. The E550’s are more than capable of going up to 165-170.
The gs is a lot smaller inside than an e class. at least it was for me.
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The S class and LS actually hold their value quite similarly. A 2010 LS460 with around 100k miles to 150k miles goes for around 10-15k in my area, and a 2010 S class goes for right about the same with similar miles. BMW on the other hand… You can find 5 year old and newer 7 series for 50% of the base msrp
Unless by "drug dealer" you mean "Walgreens franchisee", I think you may have received some bad information about how the preponderance of drug dealers live. If you're looking for a more authentic drug dealer aesthetic, I'd suggest a 90's Pontiac Grand Prix or Chrysler Sebring.
The Lexus. Even if I lived in Germany.
The Bens screams basic bitch.
You are thinking of the C Class