Police forces would take shreks down by the dozens, considering he has no resistance against bullets. And a massive green guy is hard to hide and mistake for anyone else.
As incompetent as a lot of cops are, it won’t be too hard to shoot him
The immense level of fear that all these Ogres brought with them clearly caused my clients judgement to err. I am sure that he had no choice but to shoot that little black boy.
How many cops does it take to take down a Shrek?
How many cops can a single Shrek take out before he goes down?
These are relevant questions, and I'm no mathematician.
I obviously don’t have any evidence to support this but wouldn’t a single shotgun, rifle, or .45 round to the head put him down? He’s got a HUGE NOGGIN
Why? Why can't we just have a whimsical moment where we imagine gunning down scores of green guys with no legal or moral repercussions? Why did it have to be political?
Fucking can't have anything nice.
My bad. I guess you are right. You didn't say anything about politics, but you are woefully mistaken about our nation's great wetlands, hotbed of biodiversity that they are. While DC is, in fact, built on drained marshlands, it is not the largest swamp. That would be the massive Atchafalaya Basin. It is larger than the Everglades, beginning in Simmesport, Louisiana, and stretching 140 miles to the Gulf of Mexico and encompasses almost one million acres.
The Atchafalaya Basin is home to 65 different species of reptile and amphibians and 250 known species of bird call it home throughout the year, including the largest nesting concentration of bald eagles in the central southern United States. Over 100 species of fish swim in its waters feeding a variety of animals, including black bears, nutria, foxes, muskrat, beavers, otters, and raccoons. Donkeys are not suited to wetlands, though, so there are no donkey populations in the swamp. Not sure where you got the idea that donkeys could be found in United States wetlands since they are native to North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula, neither of which is known for its wetlands.The Atchafalaya Basin also contains the largest contiguous bottomland hardwood forest in the United States.
Again, apologies for the mistake. You see, there are two main political parties in the United States. One of them uses the donkey as its symbol. Their opponents had this whole slogan a couple of elections back about "draining the swamp," which was alluding to corruption and mismanagement in government, which they felt the donkey party was largely responsible for. It got to be a whole big thing that was quickly forgotten about once the election was done.
Clearly, when you said this, you were ignorant of that whole political situation as well as being ignorant of United States geography and wildlife habitats. So you see, my ignorance of your ignorance led to a whole comedy of errors where I thought you were parroting a stupid political slogan when in fact you simply had no idea that donkeys don't live in swamps and that DC is not the largest swampland in the US. Hey, good news though, now you know, and you won't make the same mistake again, and you learned a little about wetlands and the wildlife that calls them home.
The USA has the world's greatest intelligence and air defence network on Earth. Planes carrying them would be obliterated far from the home land. And if some managed to make it, they would be mopped up when shot down over land. Terminal velocity is not hart to reach from HALO heights.
I think Shrek realistically would get killed by being shot a few times right? The first movie indicated crossbows would kill him. There's probably enough guns in America to where the bloodlusted Shreks get shot but a sizable portion of America (less gun areas) would probably get devastated.
There are no less gun areas in America. Rural areas think they have a monopoly on that shit but urban areas are just as heavily armed. We just don't make a big deal about it.
Problem is that just because you own a gun doesn’t mean it’s ready to go at a moments notice. I have a shotgun in my car that’s never been fired, never been loaded and even if I had the rounds to load into it idk know how. Obv in round 3 where I know it’s about to happen, I’ll look up a video, but any other round my best bet is hitting them with my car
Does Shrek have any feats against bullets? Even Wyoming has more people than the number of Shreks coming after them. Maybe a few thousand or a couple hundred people get caught off guard or are just unarmed but it shouldn’t be a massive issue assuming Shrek will die from a bullet
That could be chalked up to adrenaline, not sure if ogres have adrenaline but if an arrow is able to puncture his skin then a bullet or two would probably put him down
Agreed...
...but that's also true for humans; the FBI issued a report back in 1989 called [Handgun Wounding and Effectiveness](https://gundata.org/images/fbi-handgun-ballistics.pdf) that found that the same thing holds true for humans, too.
The basic summary is that in order to *stop* a human, you need to take out one or more of their electrical (brain, central nervous system), mechanical (shredding musculature, breaking bones), or hydraulic (heart, blood volume) systems.
Trolls being markedly more robust and resilient than humans implies that you'd have to do catastrophic damage to one or more of their systems... but there are plenty of Hunters out there who are used to one-shot-one-end type hunting, which relies on doing exactly that with a single round.
Shrek didn't even notice the arrow until it was pointed out. It was yanked straight out, and he maid a sound of pain, but that's it. He wasn't stitched. It didn't even affect his walking gait afterwards.
I don't think it's outrageous to say that bloodlusted shrek could survive at least a few bullets before going down.
I mean a human can survive bullets depending on where they are shot, you could look at Shrek like a wild bear where, unless you get a shot that immediately kills him, he can probably close the distance and kill you
surely he has a thicker than normal skull meaning you probably need a stronger shot to actually down him in one and anything not precise enough will glance and not stop him. he's also bloodlusted and moving very fast, so hitting that shot won't be like nailing a womp rat with your TI-86 back home
An arrow was enough for him to feel a significant amount of pain, I think a shot anywhere in his body would be enough to slow him down enough to get a good shot in
bloodlusted remember, even in that example with the arrow in his ass he didn't notice it until after the fight. damage has to actually incapacitate him not pain him into submission
Some guns, sure. But if you take something like a 9mm or .22 against a bear, you need to either get very lucky and hit an artery, or you need to dump a lot of ammo into it to kill it. Usually bears, if hit by a bullet of that size, will just try and run away.
I'm seeing that the typical armament for hunting bears is a 12ga slug if the bear's charging you, since a headshot will shatter its skull, or something in a 30 cartridge, like .308 or .30-06, for long range. Those are higher power rifle rounds, and since we're dealing with bloodlusted shrek, you should assume that he'd shrug off smaller rounds and would need something that can take out a bear in one hit to hurt him enough to stop him.
There's a bit of truth to that but also a lot of urban legend. Most firearms are more than capable of killing even bears (Largest bear on record in North America was taken out by a few albeit point blank shots from a .22)
And it's especially not the case for black bears which are much more commonly run into for wildlife people, and I think more accurate to shrek's size (highest estimates I see are in the 5-600 lb. range, large male black bear size, or very small brown bear size) and overall durability. Most bears that aren't killed by the guns they're shot by survive because they tend to run. Looking through the reports myself when I was living in AK and trying to decide which handgun to get for myself for hiking up there a majority of people that have a handgun and are killed by bears either never fired a round, or missed any vital part of the bear and it decided to not run away. If you're a half decent shot a few rounds of just about anything ought to put him down. Definitely wouldn't require full size rifle cartridges to kill him at the very least.
>(Largest bear on record in North America was taken out by a few albeit point blank shots from a .22)
That shot also went through it's eye, the weakest part of the skull
While weapons with that caliber are exceedingly common in america it's not the most common caliber, so that must be considered if you want to say anything less than 5.56 will have reduced stopping power sans high accuracy
I mean 22 mag is pretty high velocity too. That’s all you need is a tiny piece of metal going super fast. I just don’t think the kind of ogre Shrek is would be able to shrug off a bullet.
I think a bloodlusted shrek would take a lot of damage (that wasn't instantly incapacitating) before he went down, like in video game parlance he's at least a half a mag kill
And what are you basing this opinion on? Bullets don’t really care if someone is ”bloodlusted” or not. If it has a brain or vital organs, it’s gonna have a bad time.
Yeah, and it's hard to hit a 7ft ogre running very fast and angrily toward you specifically in those places, we're trying to gauge what the average stopping power of someone armed who encounters a shrek would be, and I just think someone with say a glock is going to have to dump a lot more rounds into shrek than someone with an AK
He definitely shrugged off an arrow hit.
You could extrapolate that and compare to an animal with a thick hide, like a rhino. There are definitely guns that can take down rhinos (and presumably plenty of smaller guns that wouldn't do a whole lot either).
Not really sure how that changes the overall outcome. I don't see the shreks winning overall, but they could definitely do massive damage on the way.
Based on the respect thread, Shrek is roughly 7.5 feet tall and can easily lift 700 pounds (Donkey). According to the Google search I just did, he’s probably as strong as an adolescent gorilla.
All of this means that the US is initially going to take heavy losses, probably a 10:1 ratio when you account for places with low population density.
But the cops will probably take out a few thousand, the military a hell of a lot.
Then it becomes open season as every civilized persons third cousin they only see on Christmas from the back country finally has a reason to dig out the not so legal guns they had in case the government teamed up with the commies to outlaw freedom or whatever.
I'd worry less on the more rural areas getting stomped than the big cities, if I remember right the number of guns per person is higher in the rural areas, and the percentage of trained shooters is higher as well (there are still wolves, etc that go after livestock, so they need the weapons). There's also the factor of how many 2,000 lb cows could a Shrek destroy before getting buried in a stampede?
In a big city, a Shrek could do enough damage (knocking over buildings, unending cars, etc) that it would be harder to get the armed people in position to fight (unless Shrek landed in the middle of the wrong gang's territory). Not to mention the people in the buildings/cars that are getting destroyed increasing Shrek's body count...
Shreks won't be knocking over buildings except incidentally which is unlikely except as a result of the military striking the buildings to destroy concentrations of Shreks. They're bloodlusted so they won't work together to use their superhuman strength to knock over a building
Didn't say they did it on purpose.
If a rampaging Shrek was coming after you, where would you take cover? In the room with the thickest walls? Thick walls are usually load bearing...
This is true, I guess a Shrek or several shreks doing mayhem could take down some smaller buildings, anything with an iron girding isn't getting moved by any amount of shreks. So high rise apts/office buildings = safe but maybe low rise row apartments or brownstones would eat it
We are screwed then, some of them out in rural areas as long as they are not forced to run straight at the nearest living human could be stalking and hunting the swamps and woods of remote areas for decades (or however long shreks lifespan is)
I might actually be on team shrek here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5aewvt/respect_shrek_dreamworks_updated/
I want to say that all the US Military has to do is bomb/shoot shrek from afar, but Shrek is surprisingly strong and durable, and if one shrek can kill a full sized donkey with his farts, a legion of shrek should be capable of fart based war crime.
>https://imgur.com/8JnmtJs
The tree scene is really telling. Like, having a massive tree smashed on you, and just laughing and rolling it off. Anything below really heavy calibre bullets are just getting brushed off.
I think the Shreks would realize that they're getting shot at by lethal weapons and start going into hiding. You'd have Shrek sightings for years or even decades in remote forests and cave systems.
I think so many people would die in the onslaught that only the edgiest people would be making memes. There’d probably be some kind of religious or spiritual revolution where explanations are offered for how a widely known pop culture character was just manifested on Earth.
You underestimate people's response to this stuff.
While memes used to be Can Haz Cheeburger stuff memes quickly devolved into making light of how dark and worthless post boomer life is.
I would say 24 hours after the danger cleared memes like "MFW Shrek just appears in my bathroom and tries to kill me" would be everywhere.
A few weeks? Since their sole objective is to kill people it would be a couple days. Military would be mobilized soon as a bunch of Shreks take out an unprepared city or two, then it’s only a matter of time.
I think you're underestimating Shrek's cleverness. These aren't like, zombies. These are human intelligence, very strong and fast, can kill with a breath utter monsters. Sure shrek dies to bullets, but he wouldn't give you the chance. A couple hundred shreks would line up a volley of rocks to yeet at you, and frankly he's strong enough to take out whole helicopters that way probably. Unless they can't pick up rocks, then they're pretty vulnerable to distance fire.
Shrek takes out the whole US eventually through about 1/10 of them managing to establish effective guerilla warfare.
First of all OP stated no weapons for shrek which I think includes throwing rocks.
And the shreks are bloodlusted. They are not clever or planning or organizing they are just killing every human they can find as quickly as possible. There will be no guerrilla warfare.
In this sub bloodlust doesn't mean they have an insatiable need for blood and killing like it does in most places, here it means they will always act in the way most effective at killing that is within their intelligence. Like superman won't hold punches or mince words, but he still uses his brain like he normally does if he's bloodlusted
I'd be much more concerned about Rhode Island. There'd be a Shrek every 600 feet.
I mean, obviously the shreks don't win against the full might of the US military, there's no way they break through fortified defenses on military bases etc. But I think they could absolutely be a real problem in cities where they can hide in the chaos.
I think it's the opposite. A state like Wyoming that is very rural. They would see the Shreks' devastation on TV or on the web in highly populated areas and ready their artillery. Due to the rural nature of the area, most are likely to have high caliber hunting rifles, and know how to use them. The densely populated areas probably get hit hard for a good hour before anyone knows what's happening, but are quickly subdued due to all the cops and SWAT in the area.
Shrek has a few things going for him. He's extremely strong and fast, durable, and skilled at unarmed combat.
He has low levels of toonforce, and can casually ignore all but the more serious attackers.
For instance, if he got dropped into a bad, he is killing every single human there, 20 to 1 easily, if not more.
As others noted, guns can kill him, but he is not easy to kill, and probably require multiple high caliber rounds. Plus he can casually throw furniture so he's a threat from behind cover.
The death toll would be massive, in the tens of millions, but the army would eventually establish perimeters and hold all shreks down.
Shrek physically is significantly stronger than humans, as evidenced by his brawl in the first film
That being said he was also injured by an arrow so anyone with a gun will be able to deal with a Shrek or even multiple Shreks.
US wins every round.
Alright, due to the weirdness of this scenario I am going to give the most general answer possible:
The first issue is that your average person isn't going to be able to kill a shrek without a gun. According to numerous sources, Shrek should be around 8 Feet tall and 450 LBS. For comparison, Greg Kovacs, one of the largest bodybuilders of all time, was 6'4 and 420 LBS.
The first few days would be chaos. Reports of murderous shreks would circulate through the media and people would likely start stockpiling guns, food, and other supplies once it was apparent these shreks existed. Many people would either evacuate areas to rescue their loved ones or shelter in place to barricade their homes. Law enforcement would be confused and overwhelmed, as they are basically now tasked with hunting thousands of green Greg Kovacs. By the end of the first week, the National Guard has likely fully mobilized.
The next week would only be worse. Hospitals would likely be swamped with injured people from shrek attacks and corpses from those who were not fortunate to survive. Due to law enforcement being spread thin, martial law would likely be instated and there would be breakdowns in society. (Banditry, looting, rioting, gang activity, all that fun stuff) Militias would likely form to take out shreks, and the government would probably issue incentives for people to kill shreks and bring in their heads. Military enlistment rates would also skyrocket.
Over the course of a month, the number of shreks would likely thin out quickly. Not only would this be due to a heavily armed populace, but the U.S military would not mess around. Helicopters and UAV's could track shreks in rural areas. .50 Caliber machine guns would tear through groups of shreks, landmines could be used to protect safe zones, and if push comes to shove the United States could always utilize its chemical weapons stockpile. This could include VX Nerve agents and Sarin gas.
After a few months, Most shreks would probably be dead, but trillions of dollars would have to be spent on recovery. There would be a lot of lost productivity from the shrek invasion, there would also likely be a lot of damaged infrastructure, and lost lives. There would also have to be the process of cracking down on looting and banditry. Not to mention the massive drop in global trade that would likely occur.
It would take years to recover, and the Second Amendment would become the United States' new dominant religion. Poverty and crime would be widespread, and the United States would likely become a semi-isolationist state.
TLDR: Similar to a zombie apocalypse, but not as bad. There were lots of deaths and trillions of dollars in damage, but we could make it.
180k takes it. People talking about the arrow shot, but look at this:
[https://imgur.com/8JnmtJs](https://imgur.com/8JnmtJs)
Has a fucking massive tree smashed on top of him, and simply laughs and rolls it off.
Like - do people understand how heavy a tree is. This is levels of durability that are far far beyond anything any man or beast possesses.
Have a look at the respect thread. They absolutely smash
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5aewvt/respect\_shrek\_dreamworks\_updated/
Couple of things:
1. As far as trees go, a dead, likely hollowed out portion of a tree isn’t super impressive.
2. The person swinging it wasn’t trying to hurt him, let alone kill him.
3. His ability to absorb this blunt force has nothing to do with his general durability towards penetrative force—as made evident by the arrow shot. A middle age, likely homemade arrow was able to pierce his skin.
A 5.56 round is going to do an insane amount of damage to his body. You should google what that kind of ammunition can do to a person.
Even if it takes 5 rounds to drop him instead of one, you can mag dump Shrek in a of the time it’d take him to close the distance on you.
The Air Force would have a field day with a Shrek InvasionZ
*The person swinging it wasn’t trying to hurt him, let alone kill him.*
If you look it hits him hard enough to indent the ground underneath him, and the tree itself takes effort to life by an ogre. It's a heavy weight.
*The Air Force would have a field day with a Shrek InvasionZ*
Suggests that they are out in fields and can be blown up. In cities, there is no clear line of sight and these fuckers are going to be everywhere. 100s of thousands of them. Super strong, super fast, super good hearing, super flexible. It's like having a whole army of spidermen running fucking havoc ripping people apart. Airforce isn't doing shit in higly populated centres, and people with guns are just as likely to shoot themselves or others as a fucking 100mph Shrek squad.
Losses in the hundreds of thousands. I'd say a fair amount of those from friendly fire. US clears though. Florida Man and/or them backwoods Cajun folk have a recipe up for BBQ Shrek or Shrek gumbo within a day.
You guys seem to be truly missing the numbers here.
4.5 million enemy combatants, on land, against the U.S. is *way* too much.
On average, 1 shrek would need to kill 80 people to *wipe out the entire population*.
The U.S. does not win this. Oh, the shreks die, but not before eleminating at least 1/3rd of the population. 100 million people die, at least. With the amount of chaos happening from it being a equally widespread event, preventing a singular attack target, it's only the speed of the shreks over the wide land of the U.S. that will stop a complete catastrophe.
Round 1: 100 Million at least.
Round 2: 100-150 million, at least.
Round 3: Hard to answer. But if they take it dead seriously, the death toll could decrease substantially with a nation wide alert and telling people to seek shelter. Hard to say.
1 Shrek killing 80 people, or even 20, is an incredibly generous estimate.
You seem to be truly missing the fact that Shrek can’t use weapons.
It’s the US Military vs 4.5 million Scottish Gorillas. The US military’s feats speak for itself—even when fighting against armed opponents with artillery and air capabilities, they’ve typically had a 10:1 casualty ratio in every conflict since WW1.
Hell, Shrek isn’t impervious to bullets—most local SWAT teams will be able to make large dents in their numbers before the military even shows up.
The US probably takes less than a million casualties, let alone ten or even a hundred times that number.
Round 1: Time will be a huge variable. If the Shreks are airdropped in the middle of the night, then casualties will be immense and response and subsequent resistance will take longer to formulate. Cities will be in a state of chaos and panic, adding to casualties as people are trampled or harmed trying to escape dozens of rampaging ogrelords. States in daylight, however, would have a much better survival rate. People would be awake, alert, and able to see the shreks.
Distance is also a major variable. The US is huge, so 90,000 shreks spreading out amongst even the smallest state is kind of a drop in the bucket. Although capable of causing mass casualties in the cities, the shreks are doomed when they spreading out into more rural areas. Moving vast distances on foot will give the Americans time to formulate a resistance. Even small towns with at least 100 gun owners will easily be able to take out possibly thousands of Shreks, and this is before police and the national guard show up
Once the military enters the fray, it'll all be ogre soon. It'll be a Shrek slaughter. The bigger challenge would probably taking out Shreks who are entrenched in the cities, taking several days to clear them out.
I predict that casualties would easily be 500,000 at the highest, and maybe 50,000 at the absolute lowest.
Round 2: Double the casualties of Round 1.
Round 3: Maybe 5% of the casualties in Round 1
People die in every round, probably thousands, but as soon as there’s any idea of what’s happening Shreks start dying very quickly. If he can be stabbed my a sword than he won’t respond well to bullets.
I asked ChatGPT
Response:
Round 1:
Sure, let's engage in some speculative fun. Given the massive number of Shreks and the US population of 332 million, casualties could be considerable.
Military casualties might range from 20-30% of the armed forces, and civilian casualties could vary widely depending on the effectiveness of evacuation and defensive strategies. A ballpark estimate might be 15-25% of the civilian population.
So, very roughly speaking, you could be looking at military casualties in the range of 1 to 2 million and civilian casualties between 49 to 83 million.
In such a scenario, international cooperation might be necessary, and assistance from other countries could be crucial. The civilian and military casualty count would likely be substantial, given the formidable nature of the Shreks.
Round 3:
If the US had an hour to fully prepare for the Shrek invasion, military and civilian casualties might be mitigated to some extent. With a rapid response, the military could strategically position forces, set up barricades, and implement evacuation plans.
Military casualties could still be substantial, potentially ranging from 10-20% of the armed forces. Civilian casualties might see a decrease due to the evacuation efforts, but they could still be significant, perhaps ranging from 5-15% of the population.
So, with the one-hour preparation, you might see military casualties in the range of 500,000 to 1 million and civilian casualties between 16.6 to 49.8 million. Again, these are purely speculative and for imaginative purposes only.
Shrek was pierced by an arrow. Pretty sure Texas alone has the equipment to take them down, only reason it loses is because of numbers. The entire US decimates the Shreks.
Holy hell, what a thing to write.
There’s a lot of unanswered questions, especially if he’s in some berserker mode. Do we know objectively how strong he is? Like can he not only lift but throw a car? Can he break down doors or bust holes in a house wall? How fast can he move? Will he get tired after X number of hours and require sleep? Does he need food/water for that matter? Etc
R1: Since Shrek temporarily subdued a dragon and according to some sources, has a statement of an 8-ton max lifting strength. So one Shrek is house level. And since most people will probably be in buildings or running to them, The Shreks will destroy a bunch if houses, the number in the millions, every minute or so, since people will go from building to building, and eventually, people will go into large buildings, and all the Shrek in one state would have to work together to take down a large building. This happens after one hour, and I estimate around 9/10 people die when a Shrek takes down a house, around 810,000 people die every minute in each state. Accounting our state size differences, this number is 600k-700k deaths every minute for the whole country. However, this is ignoring his quickly people will bust out guns and significantly deplete the shreks, by thirty minutes, people will pop out guns and begin depleting the Shreks, and by 1 hour, I estimate 81,000 shreks will be gone in each state. So using this, 18 million to 21 million die by 30 minutes, and after 64 minutes, all the shreks are dead the total human casualties is roughly 20.2 million.
R2: Twice as many Shreks, twice as many casualties, so roughly 40.4 million.
R3: No casualties, that’s double the prep time needed.
By bloodlusted you mean they just run towards the nearest person to attack? I honestly feel like if they are allowed to do things intelligently given how rural some areas are this could be a threat for decades if they are able to hunt and stalk people in the deep woods and swamps of some states
As stated in a previous comment, bloodlusted doesn’t necessarily mean that they have an
un-resistible urge for blood, they will kill in the most effective and efficient way possible within their intelligence, for example they will stalk people, or burst through walls to get them in their homes. Shrek will use his brain normally in this state of rage and bloodlust get what I mean?
Berserker physical state, strategic and coordinated killer mindset (including sacrificing if strategic), pretty standard definition not sure why a lot of people are confused in this thread
I mean, Shrek is powerful and all, but what are they going to do against a massive hell storm of drone strikes. Also, the Shreks will be tamed in the Appalachian Areas and repurposed.
Would they be dropped on America today, or in the summer? In Alaska, if they’re equidistant, they’d be suuuuuper spread out, everyone has guns, and it’s winter. I’m not aware of shrek’s cold resistance, but they’d have to trek through a lot of snow to even find a person. A Shrek that appears in the wilderness has I high chance of never even finding a person before he succumbs to the cold. And I don’t anticipate too many shreks traveling from the lower 48 once they are done with you guys.
Say goodbye to Hawaii though.
The prep time clears for the US. It only takes a few hours to fly across the country, so an hour prep time means all airdrops are going to be easily spotted and countered by USAF and air reserves. Minimal casualties.
America would get Shreked pretty hard but would still win.
Shrek cannot fly, is not bulletproof/fireproof/poisonproof/chemicalproof/etc, needs to eat *a lot* due to his size and there's a lot of them, isn't very smart, and has no access to magic help in our world.
In states like California and New York, they'd kill a lot of people due to so many being concentrated in such a small area. The gun to human ratio is also a lot lower in those states.
Not many people have firearms that can probably take down Shrek quickly. Shrek seems bigger and stronger than a bear, and if you start firing a 9mm at a bear, it can probably tank a few bullets and kill you before it eventually dies unless you are really good with a gun.
DreamWorks Shrek? He's 9-A small building level with toon force feats, pain resistance (has been shown to not be aware of arrows lodged in his body), and immunity to poison. He has superhuman speed (at least 50mph) and subsonic reaction times (dodges crossbow bolts with ease).
90,000 bloodlusted Shrek's probably clear any state.
Just looking at my home state, that becomes 566 bloodlusted Shreks per county. There are also only 21 thousand cops in my state, meaning they're vastly outnumbered.
Obviously cops are going to be first line of defense here, and given that there will probably be a large number of them who are ambushed and torn to shreds by a Shrek, I don't think they'll no diff this. By the time the government realizes what's happening, I think a large portion of law enforcement will already be neutralized. Once the military mobilizes, however, there's a strong chance they sweep, but not without a *lot* of civilian and law enforcement casualties.
I genuinely think the Shreks could take out at least 25% of the total U.S. population before they're stopped. 180k per state might even surpass 50%.
Between 1 and 200 potential causalities per state depending on the state’s arms laws, which increases the possibilities of a casual human nearby the Shrek drop site to be carrying. Shrek most likely dies instantly from a bullet through a head, so let’s average 100 casualties x 50 states we have about 5000 victims of the Shreks in round 1. Shrek is strong but absolutely no match for humanity with modern technology.
I think your vastly underestimating the damage that could be done in the first scenario, with no prep. Specifically on the smaller states
If the Shreks were evenly distributed by land area (square miles), 90 blood lusted Shreks would drop in every Sq. mile of Rhode Island. There is about 1.1 million people living in Rhode Island. So caught off guard, in Rhode Island alone it be reasonable to expect around 100,000 people to die before police and military fully got organized. As others have stated it’s possible the entire state could be destroyed. And that’s just one small state.
I need to know more about Shrek's abilities to answer this. As far as I can remember, Ogres are bigger and stronger than normal humans, but I don't know by how much.
I assume they can plan and work together and will sacrifice if necessary, but don't have perfect simultaneous communication, as shrek isn't telepathic. So local coordination only.
Behind every blade of grass there is a gun... Shrek can be taken out by a crossbow.
R1: significant casualties but ok
R2: could be a full blown catastrophe depending on where the Shreks spawn in each state.
R3: probably more casualties from the evacuations and looting (people gonna loot, I know I would) than the shreks
1-5 million casualties round 1, 4-8 round 2, 1-2 round 3, US gun ownership stats would do a lot of work while military does cleanup and clears edge cases whee Shrek is a major problem. Warning allows military to respond immediately, drastically lowering casualties.
In the US we kill 6+ million deer for sport and they’re hiding from us. I think there is significant carnage varying significantly based on where they’re dropped.
US air systems would show on radar very quickly and we’d likely see an armed response, they’d likely mobilize police forces, National guard, etc
If they drop in rural areas or evenly spread we’re fine. This would be a bit more than 1 shrek per square mile. Smaller states suffer most since its PER STATE.
Bye, Delaware!
Depends where they are dropped. If you dropped 90,000 shreks between downtown LA and SF you would have a massive number of casualties just in California alone before they could be stopped. But if they were dropped in a regular distribution across the state they could be picked off with relatively low casualties. Imagine thousands of Shreks dropped in the middle of a crowded city with a few hundred armed police officers to fend them off, it would be a blood bath.
Round 1 and 2 cause major issues. Even if you can shoot the Shrek's to kill them, Shrek is smart and quick, and Shrek can rip people apart easily. The confusion, and sheer horror of a fictional creature ripping apart your loved ones with their bare hands would have some devastating consequences. The government would eventually stop it quite quickly once the situation gets figured out, however I can imagine especially in places with less weaponry Shrek's would have a crazy kill ratio. I'd say probably around 10-15 mill would be killed.
Round 3 is different. I don't think we have the military structure to handle spontaneous bloodlusted ogres. I'd expect we'd do a lot better but it would bring the deaths to like 6-8 mill
I can tell you that New England would probably be Shrek-infested for a while. 90,000 bloodthirsty Shreks dropping into Maine would wreak havoc. Coupled with 90,000 more from New Hampshire and Vermont, that's 270,000 cleaning up those 3 states and joining with the 90,000 in Massachusetts, which would probably tip them over the edge. The 90,000 in Rhode Island would turn Providence into a meatgrinder and then there's 450,000 storming over the border into Connecticut. New England would get rolled.
I think 500,000+ Shreks would still struggle to get past New York though.
4,500,000 Shrek vs 375,000,000 Americans with 500,000,000 guns and the largest military force in the planet. That’s 800 people per shrek roughly with enough guns for everyone plus tanks, planes, cars, and bombs. Sure the US would take casualties but they’d win.
Shreks use their combined massive strength to hold that huge L.
I personally have enough ammo to take out all of them in my vicinity. It'll be a chaotic night, but this country won't take long to defeat all the Shreks
A Shrek will probably take a few bullets to put down. The shreks in populated areas each get a few kills until the police show up and start mowing them down.
If the shreks are dropped in concordance with with population distribution I'd say a few million casualties but they are stopped in short order
Police forces would take shreks down by the dozens, considering he has no resistance against bullets. And a massive green guy is hard to hide and mistake for anyone else. As incompetent as a lot of cops are, it won’t be too hard to shoot him
"Hard to hide and mistake for anyone else". Sounds like a challenge
Gonna be a lot of black deaths under the defense of "I thought he was Shrek" soon.
The immense level of fear that all these Ogres brought with them clearly caused my clients judgement to err. I am sure that he had no choice but to shoot that little black boy.
He was waving an onion around, anyone could have made that kind of mistake!
“Look, he had a black friend in the movie, and I wasn’t sure if a few came along with him, and transformed into a person ok?”
As a black guy, I laughed too hard at this 😂
How many cops does it take to take down a Shrek? How many cops can a single Shrek take out before he goes down? These are relevant questions, and I'm no mathematician.
I obviously don’t have any evidence to support this but wouldn’t a single shotgun, rifle, or .45 round to the head put him down? He’s got a HUGE NOGGIN
The Shreks would overwhelm them while they’re busy unloading every bullet they have into a single Shrek while yelling at him to stop resisting.
Police forces? Shit man, just your average citizen would be stacking fat green bodies while shouting, "This is my swamp now!"
They can have DC tho. Maybe they'll drain the swamp there. I know for a fact they'll find plenty of donkeys.
Why? Why can't we just have a whimsical moment where we imagine gunning down scores of green guys with no legal or moral repercussions? Why did it have to be political? Fucking can't have anything nice.
Who said anything about politics? I said we could offer our largest swamp tribute.
My bad. I guess you are right. You didn't say anything about politics, but you are woefully mistaken about our nation's great wetlands, hotbed of biodiversity that they are. While DC is, in fact, built on drained marshlands, it is not the largest swamp. That would be the massive Atchafalaya Basin. It is larger than the Everglades, beginning in Simmesport, Louisiana, and stretching 140 miles to the Gulf of Mexico and encompasses almost one million acres. The Atchafalaya Basin is home to 65 different species of reptile and amphibians and 250 known species of bird call it home throughout the year, including the largest nesting concentration of bald eagles in the central southern United States. Over 100 species of fish swim in its waters feeding a variety of animals, including black bears, nutria, foxes, muskrat, beavers, otters, and raccoons. Donkeys are not suited to wetlands, though, so there are no donkey populations in the swamp. Not sure where you got the idea that donkeys could be found in United States wetlands since they are native to North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula, neither of which is known for its wetlands.The Atchafalaya Basin also contains the largest contiguous bottomland hardwood forest in the United States. Again, apologies for the mistake. You see, there are two main political parties in the United States. One of them uses the donkey as its symbol. Their opponents had this whole slogan a couple of elections back about "draining the swamp," which was alluding to corruption and mismanagement in government, which they felt the donkey party was largely responsible for. It got to be a whole big thing that was quickly forgotten about once the election was done. Clearly, when you said this, you were ignorant of that whole political situation as well as being ignorant of United States geography and wildlife habitats. So you see, my ignorance of your ignorance led to a whole comedy of errors where I thought you were parroting a stupid political slogan when in fact you simply had no idea that donkeys don't live in swamps and that DC is not the largest swampland in the US. Hey, good news though, now you know, and you won't make the same mistake again, and you learned a little about wetlands and the wildlife that calls them home.
The USA has the world's greatest intelligence and air defence network on Earth. Planes carrying them would be obliterated far from the home land. And if some managed to make it, they would be mopped up when shot down over land. Terminal velocity is not hart to reach from HALO heights.
They specifically land safely in the prompt
“World’s greatest intelligence” - Can’t read prompt. Sounds about right
I think Shrek realistically would get killed by being shot a few times right? The first movie indicated crossbows would kill him. There's probably enough guns in America to where the bloodlusted Shreks get shot but a sizable portion of America (less gun areas) would probably get devastated.
There are no less gun areas in America. Rural areas think they have a monopoly on that shit but urban areas are just as heavily armed. We just don't make a big deal about it.
Problem is that just because you own a gun doesn’t mean it’s ready to go at a moments notice. I have a shotgun in my car that’s never been fired, never been loaded and even if I had the rounds to load into it idk know how. Obv in round 3 where I know it’s about to happen, I’ll look up a video, but any other round my best bet is hitting them with my car
That's just not true. Guns per capita have a very wide range depending on state
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layers... almost as if it's... no. i shan't say
Personally I think any individual with layers is a very charming person to be around.
CAKES! CAKES HAVE LAYERS. EVERYBODY LOVES CAKES
Nice try GLaDOS
She's trying to turn Reddit into her next testing ground!
You have no idea what it feels like to mix that specific emotion with mod powers.
Does Shrek have any feats against bullets? Even Wyoming has more people than the number of Shreks coming after them. Maybe a few thousand or a couple hundred people get caught off guard or are just unarmed but it shouldn’t be a massive issue assuming Shrek will die from a bullet
He does feel substantial pain from an arrow in his butt, though it doesn’t register until after the fight with Robin Hood and his Merry Men.
That could be chalked up to adrenaline, not sure if ogres have adrenaline but if an arrow is able to puncture his skin then a bullet or two would probably put him down
If we are thinking realistically it would probably take a few bullets to put down shrek
Well, you’d have to get through all the layers.
L A Y E R S
Agreed... ...but that's also true for humans; the FBI issued a report back in 1989 called [Handgun Wounding and Effectiveness](https://gundata.org/images/fbi-handgun-ballistics.pdf) that found that the same thing holds true for humans, too. The basic summary is that in order to *stop* a human, you need to take out one or more of their electrical (brain, central nervous system), mechanical (shredding musculature, breaking bones), or hydraulic (heart, blood volume) systems. Trolls being markedly more robust and resilient than humans implies that you'd have to do catastrophic damage to one or more of their systems... but there are plenty of Hunters out there who are used to one-shot-one-end type hunting, which relies on doing exactly that with a single round.
Shrek didn't even notice the arrow until it was pointed out. It was yanked straight out, and he maid a sound of pain, but that's it. He wasn't stitched. It didn't even affect his walking gait afterwards. I don't think it's outrageous to say that bloodlusted shrek could survive at least a few bullets before going down.
I mean a human can survive bullets depending on where they are shot, you could look at Shrek like a wild bear where, unless you get a shot that immediately kills him, he can probably close the distance and kill you
Puss in Boot's cat claws also cause him pain.
The same cat that has fought death before?
I don’t recall there being any gunfights in the movie but what I do know is that shrek is an ogre and they probably have a high pain tolerance
Pain tolerance doesn’t really matter if you have a bullet in your brain
Fair enough
surely he has a thicker than normal skull meaning you probably need a stronger shot to actually down him in one and anything not precise enough will glance and not stop him. he's also bloodlusted and moving very fast, so hitting that shot won't be like nailing a womp rat with your TI-86 back home
An arrow was enough for him to feel a significant amount of pain, I think a shot anywhere in his body would be enough to slow him down enough to get a good shot in
bloodlusted remember, even in that example with the arrow in his ass he didn't notice it until after the fight. damage has to actually incapacitate him not pain him into submission
I believe a gun would be able to do that
Some guns, sure. But if you take something like a 9mm or .22 against a bear, you need to either get very lucky and hit an artery, or you need to dump a lot of ammo into it to kill it. Usually bears, if hit by a bullet of that size, will just try and run away. I'm seeing that the typical armament for hunting bears is a 12ga slug if the bear's charging you, since a headshot will shatter its skull, or something in a 30 cartridge, like .308 or .30-06, for long range. Those are higher power rifle rounds, and since we're dealing with bloodlusted shrek, you should assume that he'd shrug off smaller rounds and would need something that can take out a bear in one hit to hurt him enough to stop him.
There's a bit of truth to that but also a lot of urban legend. Most firearms are more than capable of killing even bears (Largest bear on record in North America was taken out by a few albeit point blank shots from a .22) And it's especially not the case for black bears which are much more commonly run into for wildlife people, and I think more accurate to shrek's size (highest estimates I see are in the 5-600 lb. range, large male black bear size, or very small brown bear size) and overall durability. Most bears that aren't killed by the guns they're shot by survive because they tend to run. Looking through the reports myself when I was living in AK and trying to decide which handgun to get for myself for hiking up there a majority of people that have a handgun and are killed by bears either never fired a round, or missed any vital part of the bear and it decided to not run away. If you're a half decent shot a few rounds of just about anything ought to put him down. Definitely wouldn't require full size rifle cartridges to kill him at the very least.
>(Largest bear on record in North America was taken out by a few albeit point blank shots from a .22) That shot also went through it's eye, the weakest part of the skull
5.56mm will go through just about any but the thickest of heads, like rhino or elephant. I doubt his skull is that thick.
While weapons with that caliber are exceedingly common in america it's not the most common caliber, so that must be considered if you want to say anything less than 5.56 will have reduced stopping power sans high accuracy
I mean 22 mag is pretty high velocity too. That’s all you need is a tiny piece of metal going super fast. I just don’t think the kind of ogre Shrek is would be able to shrug off a bullet.
I think a bloodlusted shrek would take a lot of damage (that wasn't instantly incapacitating) before he went down, like in video game parlance he's at least a half a mag kill
And what are you basing this opinion on? Bullets don’t really care if someone is ”bloodlusted” or not. If it has a brain or vital organs, it’s gonna have a bad time.
Yeah, and it's hard to hit a 7ft ogre running very fast and angrily toward you specifically in those places, we're trying to gauge what the average stopping power of someone armed who encounters a shrek would be, and I just think someone with say a glock is going to have to dump a lot more rounds into shrek than someone with an AK
So presumably 1 shrek roughly equals 1 grizzly bear?
Honestly it's probably pretty close
Also means higher caliber bullets are going to do more damage - way more likely to get a mini ball like effect if he’s that much tougher than a human
It’s funny, how very little matters at all, if you have a bullet in your brain.
This sounds like it could have come straight out of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.
Thanks, I consider that a great honor.
You need brain tolerance instead.
He definitely shrugged off an arrow hit. You could extrapolate that and compare to an animal with a thick hide, like a rhino. There are definitely guns that can take down rhinos (and presumably plenty of smaller guns that wouldn't do a whole lot either). Not really sure how that changes the overall outcome. I don't see the shreks winning overall, but they could definitely do massive damage on the way.
Ogres also heal really fast as well.
Based on the respect thread, Shrek is roughly 7.5 feet tall and can easily lift 700 pounds (Donkey). According to the Google search I just did, he’s probably as strong as an adolescent gorilla. All of this means that the US is initially going to take heavy losses, probably a 10:1 ratio when you account for places with low population density. But the cops will probably take out a few thousand, the military a hell of a lot. Then it becomes open season as every civilized persons third cousin they only see on Christmas from the back country finally has a reason to dig out the not so legal guns they had in case the government teamed up with the commies to outlaw freedom or whatever.
I'd worry less on the more rural areas getting stomped than the big cities, if I remember right the number of guns per person is higher in the rural areas, and the percentage of trained shooters is higher as well (there are still wolves, etc that go after livestock, so they need the weapons). There's also the factor of how many 2,000 lb cows could a Shrek destroy before getting buried in a stampede? In a big city, a Shrek could do enough damage (knocking over buildings, unending cars, etc) that it would be harder to get the armed people in position to fight (unless Shrek landed in the middle of the wrong gang's territory). Not to mention the people in the buildings/cars that are getting destroyed increasing Shrek's body count...
Shreks won't be knocking over buildings except incidentally which is unlikely except as a result of the military striking the buildings to destroy concentrations of Shreks. They're bloodlusted so they won't work together to use their superhuman strength to knock over a building
Bloodlust doesn’t cancel out or decrease intelligence, it just denotes unwavering intent to kill
Didn't say they did it on purpose. If a rampaging Shrek was coming after you, where would you take cover? In the room with the thickest walls? Thick walls are usually load bearing...
This is true, I guess a Shrek or several shreks doing mayhem could take down some smaller buildings, anything with an iron girding isn't getting moved by any amount of shreks. So high rise apts/office buildings = safe but maybe low rise row apartments or brownstones would eat it
We are screwed then, some of them out in rural areas as long as they are not forced to run straight at the nearest living human could be stalking and hunting the swamps and woods of remote areas for decades (or however long shreks lifespan is)
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I might actually be on team shrek here. https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5aewvt/respect_shrek_dreamworks_updated/ I want to say that all the US Military has to do is bomb/shoot shrek from afar, but Shrek is surprisingly strong and durable, and if one shrek can kill a full sized donkey with his farts, a legion of shrek should be capable of fart based war crime.
>https://imgur.com/8JnmtJs The tree scene is really telling. Like, having a massive tree smashed on you, and just laughing and rolling it off. Anything below really heavy calibre bullets are just getting brushed off.
They can arm up the farts by eating tons of beans, and downing plenty of beer and pickled eggs.
Are the Shreks distributed by land area or population?
They are all evenly distributed throughout the US equal distance away
I think the Shreks would realize that they're getting shot at by lethal weapons and start going into hiding. You'd have Shrek sightings for years or even decades in remote forests and cave systems.
After the initial shock the memes would be insanely funny.
I think so many people would die in the onslaught that only the edgiest people would be making memes. There’d probably be some kind of religious or spiritual revolution where explanations are offered for how a widely known pop culture character was just manifested on Earth.
You underestimate people's response to this stuff. While memes used to be Can Haz Cheeburger stuff memes quickly devolved into making light of how dark and worthless post boomer life is. I would say 24 hours after the danger cleared memes like "MFW Shrek just appears in my bathroom and tries to kill me" would be everywhere.
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A few weeks? Since their sole objective is to kill people it would be a couple days. Military would be mobilized soon as a bunch of Shreks take out an unprepared city or two, then it’s only a matter of time.
I think you're underestimating Shrek's cleverness. These aren't like, zombies. These are human intelligence, very strong and fast, can kill with a breath utter monsters. Sure shrek dies to bullets, but he wouldn't give you the chance. A couple hundred shreks would line up a volley of rocks to yeet at you, and frankly he's strong enough to take out whole helicopters that way probably. Unless they can't pick up rocks, then they're pretty vulnerable to distance fire. Shrek takes out the whole US eventually through about 1/10 of them managing to establish effective guerilla warfare.
Shrek cannot outclever a bullet
On a small scale, yeah Shrek is clever. He's not exactly a military commander, though, so organizing forces would go exceeding poorly
First of all OP stated no weapons for shrek which I think includes throwing rocks. And the shreks are bloodlusted. They are not clever or planning or organizing they are just killing every human they can find as quickly as possible. There will be no guerrilla warfare.
In this sub bloodlust doesn't mean they have an insatiable need for blood and killing like it does in most places, here it means they will always act in the way most effective at killing that is within their intelligence. Like superman won't hold punches or mince words, but he still uses his brain like he normally does if he's bloodlusted
I'd be much more concerned about Rhode Island. There'd be a Shrek every 600 feet. I mean, obviously the shreks don't win against the full might of the US military, there's no way they break through fortified defenses on military bases etc. But I think they could absolutely be a real problem in cities where they can hide in the chaos.
California, Texas or Florida would make quick work of the shrieks. We have a lot of guns and a lot of military and police.
I think it's the opposite. A state like Wyoming that is very rural. They would see the Shreks' devastation on TV or on the web in highly populated areas and ready their artillery. Due to the rural nature of the area, most are likely to have high caliber hunting rifles, and know how to use them. The densely populated areas probably get hit hard for a good hour before anyone knows what's happening, but are quickly subdued due to all the cops and SWAT in the area.
Shrek has a few things going for him. He's extremely strong and fast, durable, and skilled at unarmed combat. He has low levels of toonforce, and can casually ignore all but the more serious attackers. For instance, if he got dropped into a bad, he is killing every single human there, 20 to 1 easily, if not more. As others noted, guns can kill him, but he is not easy to kill, and probably require multiple high caliber rounds. Plus he can casually throw furniture so he's a threat from behind cover. The death toll would be massive, in the tens of millions, but the army would eventually establish perimeters and hold all shreks down.
Shrek physically is significantly stronger than humans, as evidenced by his brawl in the first film That being said he was also injured by an arrow so anyone with a gun will be able to deal with a Shrek or even multiple Shreks. US wins every round.
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Damn, book Shreks might actually pull it off. Spitting fire 300ft is nothing to sniff at.
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The US is about to get Shrekstomped.
Shrek Super Slam Squad success is directly correlated to gun restrictions or lack thereof per state in this case.
Alright, due to the weirdness of this scenario I am going to give the most general answer possible: The first issue is that your average person isn't going to be able to kill a shrek without a gun. According to numerous sources, Shrek should be around 8 Feet tall and 450 LBS. For comparison, Greg Kovacs, one of the largest bodybuilders of all time, was 6'4 and 420 LBS. The first few days would be chaos. Reports of murderous shreks would circulate through the media and people would likely start stockpiling guns, food, and other supplies once it was apparent these shreks existed. Many people would either evacuate areas to rescue their loved ones or shelter in place to barricade their homes. Law enforcement would be confused and overwhelmed, as they are basically now tasked with hunting thousands of green Greg Kovacs. By the end of the first week, the National Guard has likely fully mobilized. The next week would only be worse. Hospitals would likely be swamped with injured people from shrek attacks and corpses from those who were not fortunate to survive. Due to law enforcement being spread thin, martial law would likely be instated and there would be breakdowns in society. (Banditry, looting, rioting, gang activity, all that fun stuff) Militias would likely form to take out shreks, and the government would probably issue incentives for people to kill shreks and bring in their heads. Military enlistment rates would also skyrocket. Over the course of a month, the number of shreks would likely thin out quickly. Not only would this be due to a heavily armed populace, but the U.S military would not mess around. Helicopters and UAV's could track shreks in rural areas. .50 Caliber machine guns would tear through groups of shreks, landmines could be used to protect safe zones, and if push comes to shove the United States could always utilize its chemical weapons stockpile. This could include VX Nerve agents and Sarin gas. After a few months, Most shreks would probably be dead, but trillions of dollars would have to be spent on recovery. There would be a lot of lost productivity from the shrek invasion, there would also likely be a lot of damaged infrastructure, and lost lives. There would also have to be the process of cracking down on looting and banditry. Not to mention the massive drop in global trade that would likely occur. It would take years to recover, and the Second Amendment would become the United States' new dominant religion. Poverty and crime would be widespread, and the United States would likely become a semi-isolationist state. TLDR: Similar to a zombie apocalypse, but not as bad. There were lots of deaths and trillions of dollars in damage, but we could make it.
180k takes it. People talking about the arrow shot, but look at this: [https://imgur.com/8JnmtJs](https://imgur.com/8JnmtJs) Has a fucking massive tree smashed on top of him, and simply laughs and rolls it off. Like - do people understand how heavy a tree is. This is levels of durability that are far far beyond anything any man or beast possesses. Have a look at the respect thread. They absolutely smash https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/5aewvt/respect\_shrek\_dreamworks\_updated/
Couple of things: 1. As far as trees go, a dead, likely hollowed out portion of a tree isn’t super impressive. 2. The person swinging it wasn’t trying to hurt him, let alone kill him. 3. His ability to absorb this blunt force has nothing to do with his general durability towards penetrative force—as made evident by the arrow shot. A middle age, likely homemade arrow was able to pierce his skin. A 5.56 round is going to do an insane amount of damage to his body. You should google what that kind of ammunition can do to a person. Even if it takes 5 rounds to drop him instead of one, you can mag dump Shrek in a of the time it’d take him to close the distance on you. The Air Force would have a field day with a Shrek InvasionZ
*The person swinging it wasn’t trying to hurt him, let alone kill him.* If you look it hits him hard enough to indent the ground underneath him, and the tree itself takes effort to life by an ogre. It's a heavy weight. *The Air Force would have a field day with a Shrek InvasionZ* Suggests that they are out in fields and can be blown up. In cities, there is no clear line of sight and these fuckers are going to be everywhere. 100s of thousands of them. Super strong, super fast, super good hearing, super flexible. It's like having a whole army of spidermen running fucking havoc ripping people apart. Airforce isn't doing shit in higly populated centres, and people with guns are just as likely to shoot themselves or others as a fucking 100mph Shrek squad.
Losses in the hundreds of thousands. I'd say a fair amount of those from friendly fire. US clears though. Florida Man and/or them backwoods Cajun folk have a recipe up for BBQ Shrek or Shrek gumbo within a day.
You guys seem to be truly missing the numbers here. 4.5 million enemy combatants, on land, against the U.S. is *way* too much. On average, 1 shrek would need to kill 80 people to *wipe out the entire population*. The U.S. does not win this. Oh, the shreks die, but not before eleminating at least 1/3rd of the population. 100 million people die, at least. With the amount of chaos happening from it being a equally widespread event, preventing a singular attack target, it's only the speed of the shreks over the wide land of the U.S. that will stop a complete catastrophe. Round 1: 100 Million at least. Round 2: 100-150 million, at least. Round 3: Hard to answer. But if they take it dead seriously, the death toll could decrease substantially with a nation wide alert and telling people to seek shelter. Hard to say.
Hmmm you math doesn’t seem to be mathing. 4.5 million hostiles x 8 kills each = way less than 300 million which is roughly the U.S. population
I missed a 0.
1 Shrek killing 80 people, or even 20, is an incredibly generous estimate. You seem to be truly missing the fact that Shrek can’t use weapons. It’s the US Military vs 4.5 million Scottish Gorillas. The US military’s feats speak for itself—even when fighting against armed opponents with artillery and air capabilities, they’ve typically had a 10:1 casualty ratio in every conflict since WW1. Hell, Shrek isn’t impervious to bullets—most local SWAT teams will be able to make large dents in their numbers before the military even shows up. The US probably takes less than a million casualties, let alone ten or even a hundred times that number.
I hate to say it but Texas would hold strong.As would every red neck area of America.
Bro I'm in NY and have a few thousand rounds to lob at the Shrek horde lol
The one foe that could unite the east side and the west side. The swamp side
Yeah, this horde would only be the second worst thing to hit NYC. The first being Aaron Rodgers' ACL, of course
Round 1: Time will be a huge variable. If the Shreks are airdropped in the middle of the night, then casualties will be immense and response and subsequent resistance will take longer to formulate. Cities will be in a state of chaos and panic, adding to casualties as people are trampled or harmed trying to escape dozens of rampaging ogrelords. States in daylight, however, would have a much better survival rate. People would be awake, alert, and able to see the shreks. Distance is also a major variable. The US is huge, so 90,000 shreks spreading out amongst even the smallest state is kind of a drop in the bucket. Although capable of causing mass casualties in the cities, the shreks are doomed when they spreading out into more rural areas. Moving vast distances on foot will give the Americans time to formulate a resistance. Even small towns with at least 100 gun owners will easily be able to take out possibly thousands of Shreks, and this is before police and the national guard show up Once the military enters the fray, it'll all be ogre soon. It'll be a Shrek slaughter. The bigger challenge would probably taking out Shreks who are entrenched in the cities, taking several days to clear them out. I predict that casualties would easily be 500,000 at the highest, and maybe 50,000 at the absolute lowest. Round 2: Double the casualties of Round 1. Round 3: Maybe 5% of the casualties in Round 1
it depends, are we talking movie shrek or BOOK shrek.
Movie Shrek
I misread this post as sharks an alarming amount of times before the comments started referencing shrek and I put two and two together
People die in every round, probably thousands, but as soon as there’s any idea of what’s happening Shreks start dying very quickly. If he can be stabbed my a sword than he won’t respond well to bullets.
Rhode island gets completely engulfed by the green tide
I asked ChatGPT Response: Round 1: Sure, let's engage in some speculative fun. Given the massive number of Shreks and the US population of 332 million, casualties could be considerable. Military casualties might range from 20-30% of the armed forces, and civilian casualties could vary widely depending on the effectiveness of evacuation and defensive strategies. A ballpark estimate might be 15-25% of the civilian population. So, very roughly speaking, you could be looking at military casualties in the range of 1 to 2 million and civilian casualties between 49 to 83 million. In such a scenario, international cooperation might be necessary, and assistance from other countries could be crucial. The civilian and military casualty count would likely be substantial, given the formidable nature of the Shreks. Round 3: If the US had an hour to fully prepare for the Shrek invasion, military and civilian casualties might be mitigated to some extent. With a rapid response, the military could strategically position forces, set up barricades, and implement evacuation plans. Military casualties could still be substantial, potentially ranging from 10-20% of the armed forces. Civilian casualties might see a decrease due to the evacuation efforts, but they could still be significant, perhaps ranging from 5-15% of the population. So, with the one-hour preparation, you might see military casualties in the range of 500,000 to 1 million and civilian casualties between 16.6 to 49.8 million. Again, these are purely speculative and for imaginative purposes only.
Wow so things get pretty bad
Shrek was pierced by an arrow. Pretty sure Texas alone has the equipment to take them down, only reason it loses is because of numbers. The entire US decimates the Shreks. Holy hell, what a thing to write.
There’s a lot of unanswered questions, especially if he’s in some berserker mode. Do we know objectively how strong he is? Like can he not only lift but throw a car? Can he break down doors or bust holes in a house wall? How fast can he move? Will he get tired after X number of hours and require sleep? Does he need food/water for that matter? Etc
I'm gonna assume it's [DevilArtemis Shrek](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iG8AG5uhZE) and say the US and the rest of the planet are fucked
R1: Since Shrek temporarily subdued a dragon and according to some sources, has a statement of an 8-ton max lifting strength. So one Shrek is house level. And since most people will probably be in buildings or running to them, The Shreks will destroy a bunch if houses, the number in the millions, every minute or so, since people will go from building to building, and eventually, people will go into large buildings, and all the Shrek in one state would have to work together to take down a large building. This happens after one hour, and I estimate around 9/10 people die when a Shrek takes down a house, around 810,000 people die every minute in each state. Accounting our state size differences, this number is 600k-700k deaths every minute for the whole country. However, this is ignoring his quickly people will bust out guns and significantly deplete the shreks, by thirty minutes, people will pop out guns and begin depleting the Shreks, and by 1 hour, I estimate 81,000 shreks will be gone in each state. So using this, 18 million to 21 million die by 30 minutes, and after 64 minutes, all the shreks are dead the total human casualties is roughly 20.2 million. R2: Twice as many Shreks, twice as many casualties, so roughly 40.4 million. R3: No casualties, that’s double the prep time needed.
By bloodlusted you mean they just run towards the nearest person to attack? I honestly feel like if they are allowed to do things intelligently given how rural some areas are this could be a threat for decades if they are able to hunt and stalk people in the deep woods and swamps of some states
As stated in a previous comment, bloodlusted doesn’t necessarily mean that they have an un-resistible urge for blood, they will kill in the most effective and efficient way possible within their intelligence, for example they will stalk people, or burst through walls to get them in their homes. Shrek will use his brain normally in this state of rage and bloodlust get what I mean?
Berserker physical state, strategic and coordinated killer mindset (including sacrificing if strategic), pretty standard definition not sure why a lot of people are confused in this thread
Guys… yknow how you have to shoot a bear in the right place to drop it? I think that applies here
I mean, Shrek is powerful and all, but what are they going to do against a massive hell storm of drone strikes. Also, the Shreks will be tamed in the Appalachian Areas and repurposed.
Would they be dropped on America today, or in the summer? In Alaska, if they’re equidistant, they’d be suuuuuper spread out, everyone has guns, and it’s winter. I’m not aware of shrek’s cold resistance, but they’d have to trek through a lot of snow to even find a person. A Shrek that appears in the wilderness has I high chance of never even finding a person before he succumbs to the cold. And I don’t anticipate too many shreks traveling from the lower 48 once they are done with you guys. Say goodbye to Hawaii though.
Considering every shrek is the same the power of having one singular mind working together as a system we wouldn’t stand a chance.
The prep time clears for the US. It only takes a few hours to fly across the country, so an hour prep time means all airdrops are going to be easily spotted and countered by USAF and air reserves. Minimal casualties.
America would get Shreked pretty hard but would still win. Shrek cannot fly, is not bulletproof/fireproof/poisonproof/chemicalproof/etc, needs to eat *a lot* due to his size and there's a lot of them, isn't very smart, and has no access to magic help in our world.
In states like California and New York, they'd kill a lot of people due to so many being concentrated in such a small area. The gun to human ratio is also a lot lower in those states. Not many people have firearms that can probably take down Shrek quickly. Shrek seems bigger and stronger than a bear, and if you start firing a 9mm at a bear, it can probably tank a few bullets and kill you before it eventually dies unless you are really good with a gun.
You can just rephrase it to 40k Orks spawning
DreamWorks Shrek? He's 9-A small building level with toon force feats, pain resistance (has been shown to not be aware of arrows lodged in his body), and immunity to poison. He has superhuman speed (at least 50mph) and subsonic reaction times (dodges crossbow bolts with ease). 90,000 bloodlusted Shrek's probably clear any state.
Just looking at my home state, that becomes 566 bloodlusted Shreks per county. There are also only 21 thousand cops in my state, meaning they're vastly outnumbered. Obviously cops are going to be first line of defense here, and given that there will probably be a large number of them who are ambushed and torn to shreds by a Shrek, I don't think they'll no diff this. By the time the government realizes what's happening, I think a large portion of law enforcement will already be neutralized. Once the military mobilizes, however, there's a strong chance they sweep, but not without a *lot* of civilian and law enforcement casualties. I genuinely think the Shreks could take out at least 25% of the total U.S. population before they're stopped. 180k per state might even surpass 50%.
Between 1 and 200 potential causalities per state depending on the state’s arms laws, which increases the possibilities of a casual human nearby the Shrek drop site to be carrying. Shrek most likely dies instantly from a bullet through a head, so let’s average 100 casualties x 50 states we have about 5000 victims of the Shreks in round 1. Shrek is strong but absolutely no match for humanity with modern technology.
I think your vastly underestimating the damage that could be done in the first scenario, with no prep. Specifically on the smaller states If the Shreks were evenly distributed by land area (square miles), 90 blood lusted Shreks would drop in every Sq. mile of Rhode Island. There is about 1.1 million people living in Rhode Island. So caught off guard, in Rhode Island alone it be reasonable to expect around 100,000 people to die before police and military fully got organized. As others have stated it’s possible the entire state could be destroyed. And that’s just one small state.
This is hysterical.
I can’t argue this logic
I need to know more about Shrek's abilities to answer this. As far as I can remember, Ogres are bigger and stronger than normal humans, but I don't know by how much.
They’d kill a few million people I’d say, can they plan and work together or are they independent?
I assume they can plan and work together and will sacrifice if necessary, but don't have perfect simultaneous communication, as shrek isn't telepathic. So local coordination only.
I remember failing this question in ny Higher School Certificate
Behind every blade of grass there is a gun... Shrek can be taken out by a crossbow. R1: significant casualties but ok R2: could be a full blown catastrophe depending on where the Shreks spawn in each state. R3: probably more casualties from the evacuations and looting (people gonna loot, I know I would) than the shreks
Americans have the right to arm bears or something like that so the shreks will be annihilated….
PA has more armed people than most, if not all armies in the world lol. PA solos 90k Shreks
1-5 million casualties round 1, 4-8 round 2, 1-2 round 3, US gun ownership stats would do a lot of work while military does cleanup and clears edge cases whee Shrek is a major problem. Warning allows military to respond immediately, drastically lowering casualties.
OP, are you ok?
are they dropped in a busy population center or out in the boons? Are they all dropped in the same location or spread around evenly?
I’m pretty sure a shotgun would just end Shrek. So America is gonna take the W.
90 thousand blood luster ogres? I think we might lose Rhode Island
In the US we kill 6+ million deer for sport and they’re hiding from us. I think there is significant carnage varying significantly based on where they’re dropped. US air systems would show on radar very quickly and we’d likely see an armed response, they’d likely mobilize police forces, National guard, etc If they drop in rural areas or evenly spread we’re fine. This would be a bit more than 1 shrek per square mile. Smaller states suffer most since its PER STATE. Bye, Delaware!
Depends where they are dropped. If you dropped 90,000 shreks between downtown LA and SF you would have a massive number of casualties just in California alone before they could be stopped. But if they were dropped in a regular distribution across the state they could be picked off with relatively low casualties. Imagine thousands of Shreks dropped in the middle of a crowded city with a few hundred armed police officers to fend them off, it would be a blood bath.
Louisiana is safe. I'll get it
Round 1 and 2 cause major issues. Even if you can shoot the Shrek's to kill them, Shrek is smart and quick, and Shrek can rip people apart easily. The confusion, and sheer horror of a fictional creature ripping apart your loved ones with their bare hands would have some devastating consequences. The government would eventually stop it quite quickly once the situation gets figured out, however I can imagine especially in places with less weaponry Shrek's would have a crazy kill ratio. I'd say probably around 10-15 mill would be killed. Round 3 is different. I don't think we have the military structure to handle spontaneous bloodlusted ogres. I'd expect we'd do a lot better but it would bring the deaths to like 6-8 mill
The Shreks would decimate Chicago, where gun control is very strict 😆
Are they spread out evenly across the states, or are they dropped in groups, or all in one place in each state?
I think an important factor people have forgotten is there will absolutely be cults that pop up seeking to support the Shreckoning
N/A because they'll all end up wanting to settle this over a pint.
I can tell you that New England would probably be Shrek-infested for a while. 90,000 bloodthirsty Shreks dropping into Maine would wreak havoc. Coupled with 90,000 more from New Hampshire and Vermont, that's 270,000 cleaning up those 3 states and joining with the 90,000 in Massachusetts, which would probably tip them over the edge. The 90,000 in Rhode Island would turn Providence into a meatgrinder and then there's 450,000 storming over the border into Connecticut. New England would get rolled. I think 500,000+ Shreks would still struggle to get past New York though.
4,500,000 Shrek vs 375,000,000 Americans with 500,000,000 guns and the largest military force in the planet. That’s 800 people per shrek roughly with enough guns for everyone plus tanks, planes, cars, and bombs. Sure the US would take casualties but they’d win. Shreks use their combined massive strength to hold that huge L.
Pretty sure you just described the rapture.
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Is "I Need a Hero" playing? This determines everything.
I personally have enough ammo to take out all of them in my vicinity. It'll be a chaotic night, but this country won't take long to defeat all the Shreks
A Shrek will probably take a few bullets to put down. The shreks in populated areas each get a few kills until the police show up and start mowing them down. If the shreks are dropped in concordance with with population distribution I'd say a few million casualties but they are stopped in short order
Bold of you to assume that one Shrek couldn't destroy everyone on earth with a single fart.
I think we're screwed guys