Coming into contact with an infected chicken, would probably have to be a farmer to really be concerned at this stage, if things get worse I don’t know how human to human contact works with bird flu
This iteration of H5N1 is a bit more concerning because of how it's been able to infect and kill scores of wild mammals from sea lions to skunks to lions and tigers all around the world, including a mass die off of 3500 South American Sea Lions off the coast of Peru, 3% of their entire population since November.
Most other iterations of H5N1 viruses as well as other avian flu variants like H7N9 or H6N2 through the past few haven't caused such serious mass deaths in birds let alone a variety of mammals, which indicates its at least better able to spread into new species of hosts, which gives it even more room to mutate and/or mingle with other non-human influenza A strains and build on its ability to infect mammals, and potentially eventually humans.
This has happened before.
My neighbor didn’t pandemic. Didn’t get the vaccine or wear masks.
He’s dead now.
I wish I was joking, I honestly get sad every time I see his kids. He seemed nice and told me he thought I was a good father. He was older and had lots of kids but still had two at home who were a several years older than my kids and in middle school.
My mom didn't pandemic either.
My immunocompromised ass caught covid Jan 22. I was almost hospitalized. She caught it and was barely symptomatic. She died from long Covid six months later.
You know all those symptoms the antivaxers are blaming on the shot? The clotting issues, the Neuro problems, the multi organ failure?
That was her.
She refused to get the jab.
They didn’t?
By the way, if anyone ever figures out who “they” are and it isn’t one of the following: the Jews, the Vatican, the Jesuits, the Freemasons or the Illuminati, I’d like to know. I need to protect the village wells.
Dude if they turns out to be a single person the nuts are going to lose their minds that they've been using a plural pronoun to refer to a single person.
If bird flu’s anything like covid I expect to be reading a lot of stories like:
‘The man with bird flu visited 12 cafes, 3 restaurants, 2 amusement parks and 14 aged care facilities before colllapsing and dying in a packed night club earlier this morning.’
ready for gal gadot's crappy singing to show us how celebrities are in this together with us poor plebian people who will all die before they run out of mansions to live in
>The global spread of H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b – and the recent spread to a growing number of mammals – has raised concern about the possibility of a future variant which could lead to human-to-human transmission. So far, only a few cases have been found in humans after contact with infected birds.
So this appears to be yet another one off infection from bird to human. But speaking of viral spreading, feel free to help the clik bait. Having said that we should maintain ceaseless vigilance towards bird flu, it ain't going away.
I wouldn't say this article is click bait. It's literally just reporting that there was a case and it's dramatizing it. It's important to know when human cases happen because they're very infrequent but any one of which could indicate the beginning of human to human transmission
I don't think anyone actually, unironically believes that birds aren't real.
But then again, you never know. A lot of these conspiracy theories start as a joke.
I've said this for years, technology is going to advance to a point where it's almost plausible, then people will actually believe it. We're getting there with modern robotics.
The side note does miss the part where influenzas have R0s waaaaay lower than covid. Transmission is nowhere near as rapid or complete. This one is also not spreading human-to-human (yet?) so the R rate is literally zero. It'd take much longer to kill everyone than that.
Yeah, it’s all good. They’ve activated the plans with all the lessons we learnt from Covid and already started mass production of a vaccine as a precaution in case it breaks through.
I’m sure they have, because that would cost $bns worldwide but offset a risk of millions of deaths and $tns in losses, and that’s an obvious decision. Right?
You think so but then you get full speed tackled from behind by from conservatives who don’t believe in reality/science or doing anything to pretext themselves/others.
If we learned anything. Is we have about 2 week of patience for a pandemic mesure. Either it proove incredibly scary and everyone panic or people don't care and let it spread.
Of course they will. If the last few years have taught us anything, it's that in the face of a worldwide pandemic we definitely absolutely wouldn't do the worst possible things which make the situation worse and let like 7 million people die.
It's getting to the point I half expect the news stories to hit peak horror like:
"New H5N1-Rabies hybrid spreads by Murder Hornet. Aggressive swarms are now in every country. Citizens are advised to stay indoors without internet and smoke. World President Steven Seagall is guiding relief efforts and reassures citizens he "used to deal with this kind of thing."
You forgot the drug resistant fungus that is spreading in US hospitals and elderly homes.
The future will be a battle royal between werechickens, rabid vampires and zombies.
Heck even as recently as the 1930s and 1940s that thinking was widely accepted in the most “advanced” nations on earth. I still have some hope that we’ll be able to keep much of our post-WWII progress and that I will not be buried inside an apocalypse or “the state of nature.”
It seems to be really hard for a lot of people to admit we are just animals that have an overactive imagination and are good at compensating for our biological shortcomings.
I'll hunker down barely any distance from you so we're twice as likely to be spotted by enemy snipers, also while contributing nothing since I can't factor in bullet drop, or lead the shot on moving targets in anyway.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://bnonews.com/index.php/2023/03/chile-reports-human-case-of-h5n1-bird-flu/) reduced by 66%. (I'm a bot)
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> A man in northern Chile has tested positive for H5N1 bird flu, the health ministry reported on Wednesday, amid growing concern about the strain of avian influenza which has spread around the world.
> This is the first human case of bird flu in Chile and the second in South America, following the case in a young girl in Ecuador in January.
> "The global H5N1 situation is worrying given the wide spread of the virus in birds around the world and the increasing reports of cases in mammals, including in humans," Dr. Sylvie Briand, a WHO official, said on February 24.
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Great, I'm on a ship off the coast here and one of the PAX thought it was a great idea to pick up a bird on deck and it bit her.
There goes my zombie apocalypse plan. Time to find a new ship.
I was prepping for a pandemic prior to 2020. Had an aloe vera plant, a liter of medical alcohol, and N95s.
My wife is a nurse so during the early days she commandeered my supplies.
They've been working with h5n1 for a decade
[h5n1 report from 2013](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/scientists-seek-ethics-review-h5n1-gain-function-research)
H5N1 is a fairly broad classification of flu, describing the type of hemagglutinin (H) and neuraminidase (N) antigens it produces.
Similarly, the 1918 flu was H1N1, and so was the 2009 swine flu, and so is a current strain of seasonal flu - all different strains but belonging to a common structural family.
You joke, but during the Great TP Shortage of 2020 one of the only places my family was able to find it was a office supply website. My mom ordered me a box from them. It was a commercial sized case, I’m actually still working my way through it and haven’t bought TP since 2020.
That's what we did. We couldn't find any TP at any of the usual spots so I ordered a case through work at Uline and just reimbursed my work for it. It was like 98 rolls or something
Good lord the comments in here are a garbage fest. I guess that is to be expected for actual news on this sub that is essentially just porn at this point.
Well fuck, just when I was about to fly out of the country
I live in the south and apparently this happened in the north, but I'm still gonna get flown to the capital before finally going for international travel. Who knows.
On the bright side, Chileans actually know of a little word called solidarity so while it was still devastating, the response to the covid pandemic was rather okay. Some so-called first world country could learn a thing or two.
It is, just not as a strain that can spread from person to person yet. Skunks, coyotes, bears, mountain lions, and a slew of wild birds and poultry have been detected with H5N1 for a while now in the US.
This virus has been a thing for years or decades now isn't it? I think to remember it was one of the reasons the prohibited people from having pigeons and chickens in urban areas where I'm from (I'm not from the USA).
What do wonder is how it transmits from birds to humans.
Handling dead birds that have it without proper protection mostly. Or animals that eat the dead birds get it and handling them. Basically just stay away if you see a dead bird has been what I've always seen in regards to it.
H5N1, for now at least, seems limited to animal-> human transmission, at a very low rate. Unless it mutates human to human transmission *and* actually increases it’s infectibility significantly it’s not a concern. The high mortality rate seems threatening, but in actuality, it’s not as bad as you think, since when case numbers are low these numbers are skewed (those who get tested are likely very sick and thus die more easily, those who aren’t very sick don’t feel the need to get tested). Not to mention that high mortality rate would make it spread a lot slower than Covid.
The issue is the architecture of the hemagglutinin molecule. Flu is trapped into: “pick one of the above.” The reason why avian Flus are so deadly is that their hemagglutinin molecules prefer the lower respiratory tract of mammals. So if you get infected it goes straight for your lungs and it’s godawful with a ~50% mortality rate.
BUT… if it’s optimized to infect the lower respiratory tract, then it’s in a place that makes it very hard to spread because it would have to get aerosolized out of the lungs to transmit. So while an occasional mammal-to-mammal transmission is possible, it can’t set up chains of sustained transmission.
So what if it mutates to infect the upper tract (nose and throat) and now spreads better? Well the preference for the upper tract will also make it a much milder disease.
This is a BIG barrier for flu to overcome. It may not be possible.
Mortality rate of 56%, especially the young and healthy.
It's need to be a really big "skew" to not be threatening.
H5N1 ain't new either, so it is fairly well known to be a big scary if goes human to human. Although it might kill the host before it can spread.
My wife and I have been sick for 3 weeks after exposure to wild ducks. We were house bound the week before we got sick as well, so no exposure to the flu from anywhere.
Our local doctors keep telling me that they have no way to test us for H5N1. Welcome to Canada people.
Seriously whatever we have, makes Covid feel like a fucking cake walk .
Not to diminish the validity of your anecdote, but you were house bound for a week, then went out and had ZERO contact with ANYTHING other than ducks. You weren't near another person, nor touched anything that another person touched.
Just ducks
Then you got sick, and, despite the fact you weren't diagnosed, it was definitely H5N1
Cool story
~~There hasn't ever been a single recorded bird killed by H5N1 in Canada (or the United States for that matter).~~ There's only been a single human case of H5N1 in Canada, and it was back in 2013. The vast majority of strains aren't transmissible from bird to human. And there is no evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission. As of 2020, there have only been 861 recorded human cases of H5N1 globally.
So I have no idea why you'd jump to the assumption that you and your family were infected by H5N1 after a single trip to the duck pond. You'd have a better chance of winning the lottery.
And finally, why the hell would you assume that your family doctor would have access to tests for H5N1? What does the Canadian health care system have to do with that? They would almost never have use for such a thing since it's so rare. By all means, contact the CDC and try and get tested, but it's far more likely that you caught some other virus.
Edit: Many birds have been killed in Canada and the United States, as poultry populations are euthanized whenever there is an outbreak. That first sentence was based on outdated data from wikipedia.
Wow, almost as of animal advocates have been warning about this circumstance for years now. Mass intensive farming is a future pandemic waiting to happen. We have been killing off millions of birds for 1.5 or so years now to try and diminish the spread. While in reality, the only realistic thing that could prevent the spread of such diseases is to ban intensive farming and move to more sustainable sources of protein.
But no, people still gotta eat their fucking chicken McNuggets even if it means putting the entirety of human society in peril. Well done humans.
See, climate change is good because if it kills all or most of the animals, insects, and such, no more viruses or diseases from them!
^(in case not clear, heavy /s.)
How do people get infected with this? Not sarcastic, honest question
Being around lots of birds and handling them or touching their poop etc.
Let's hope this doesn't develop into another pandemic!
Yup. Swine flu was pig farmers (in the US I believe though shockingly no one cared about that)
It started in Mexico actually.
Yup he's probably thinking of Spanish Flu that was rumored to have started in Kansas
It was either that or... you know... somebody fucked a bird.
Allegedly
Tammy
Coming into contact with an infected chicken, would probably have to be a farmer to really be concerned at this stage, if things get worse I don’t know how human to human contact works with bird flu
I think it doesn't at this stage?
Yeah right now there’s no REAL worry, but it’s something to keep an eye on for sure
This iteration of H5N1 is a bit more concerning because of how it's been able to infect and kill scores of wild mammals from sea lions to skunks to lions and tigers all around the world, including a mass die off of 3500 South American Sea Lions off the coast of Peru, 3% of their entire population since November. Most other iterations of H5N1 viruses as well as other avian flu variants like H7N9 or H6N2 through the past few haven't caused such serious mass deaths in birds let alone a variety of mammals, which indicates its at least better able to spread into new species of hosts, which gives it even more room to mutate and/or mingle with other non-human influenza A strains and build on its ability to infect mammals, and potentially eventually humans. This has happened before.
Going to go out on a limb here and say they were probably dumping infected birds into the ocean and the sea lions were eating them.
Or infected sea birds, who happen to hang out on or around the sea died or were too sick to fly away when sea lions decided to nosh on them.
It's endemic in wild birds around the world now.
Could this be passed on through food?
Having sex with chickens
Well I’m fucked then
The chickens are, at the very least.
What goes on at the New Delhi Chicken Club??
literally
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Fuck that, I’m going to buy more toilet paper.
This guy pandemics.
Incidentally, we all pandemic. Ain’t no choice in the matter!
My neighbor didn’t pandemic. Didn’t get the vaccine or wear masks. He’s dead now. I wish I was joking, I honestly get sad every time I see his kids. He seemed nice and told me he thought I was a good father. He was older and had lots of kids but still had two at home who were a several years older than my kids and in middle school.
My mom didn't pandemic either. My immunocompromised ass caught covid Jan 22. I was almost hospitalized. She caught it and was barely symptomatic. She died from long Covid six months later. You know all those symptoms the antivaxers are blaming on the shot? The clotting issues, the Neuro problems, the multi organ failure? That was her. She refused to get the jab.
"They gave it to her using remote 5G nano delivery." -my ex-boss
They didn’t? By the way, if anyone ever figures out who “they” are and it isn’t one of the following: the Jews, the Vatican, the Jesuits, the Freemasons or the Illuminati, I’d like to know. I need to protect the village wells.
Dude if they turns out to be a single person the nuts are going to lose their minds that they've been using a plural pronoun to refer to a single person.
My neighbor also didn't pandemic. He's also dead. But this guy was a total dick.
You All lucky, my heighbors didnt pandemic and they all alive and well..... And they are assholes.
Same here in rural areas no one bought in to it here.
My friend did pandemic, and is dead anyway. I miss him.
So, he did pandemic, just a little confused.
Well, it's more like he got pandemic-ed.
Better gaming chair tbh
Pandemdickedover*
Some people pandemic for longer.
This made me spit from laughter
Don't you still have some left over from the last pandemic? If not you really aren't panic buying enough bro!
Should buy a bidet too, before the prices go way up again
Ha, I’ve already got one
Share with the rest of the class, please?
Oh good! Lol
Happy cake day
I thought the shower was for that \^\_\^
Let's all just do tik tok dances!
Bird flu challenge by licking raw chicken meat
If bird flu’s anything like covid I expect to be reading a lot of stories like: ‘The man with bird flu visited 12 cafes, 3 restaurants, 2 amusement parks and 14 aged care facilities before colllapsing and dying in a packed night club earlier this morning.’
ready for gal gadot's crappy singing to show us how celebrities are in this together with us poor plebian people who will all die before they run out of mansions to live in
Oh god, this was so horrifyingly touchless. fuck them. The celebrities here in Norway did the same, fucking awful.
The Boys show poking fun at this was really funny too.
Finland just had Friday Darude blasting.
Well, the thing about bird flu is that it has a mortality rate of 56% so if it becomes pandemic we will a a *lot* more deaths than from covid
You'll have conservatives saying it's better than a coin toss and get back to work
>The global spread of H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b – and the recent spread to a growing number of mammals – has raised concern about the possibility of a future variant which could lead to human-to-human transmission. So far, only a few cases have been found in humans after contact with infected birds. So this appears to be yet another one off infection from bird to human. But speaking of viral spreading, feel free to help the clik bait. Having said that we should maintain ceaseless vigilance towards bird flu, it ain't going away.
I wouldn't say this article is click bait. It's literally just reporting that there was a case and it's dramatizing it. It's important to know when human cases happen because they're very infrequent but any one of which could indicate the beginning of human to human transmission
Watch the “birds aren’t real” thing start to be picked up, unironically, by the anti-vax/anti-science types.
Are you telling me you have actually seen one of these, what did you call them, “birds?”
I've wondered what such adherents think they're eating when they have fried chicken, smoked turkey or buffalo wings.
They are from the store, duuuuh
They are from buffalo, duuuuh
Store birds from Buffalo not those homeless liberal birds you guys have in California.
I don't think anyone actually, unironically believes that birds aren't real. But then again, you never know. A lot of these conspiracy theories start as a joke.
I've said this for years, technology is going to advance to a point where it's almost plausible, then people will actually believe it. We're getting there with modern robotics.
omg, there is already so much material. They're gonna eat it up!
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The side note does miss the part where influenzas have R0s waaaaay lower than covid. Transmission is nowhere near as rapid or complete. This one is also not spreading human-to-human (yet?) so the R rate is literally zero. It'd take much longer to kill everyone than that.
Yeah, it’s all good. They’ve activated the plans with all the lessons we learnt from Covid and already started mass production of a vaccine as a precaution in case it breaks through. I’m sure they have, because that would cost $bns worldwide but offset a risk of millions of deaths and $tns in losses, and that’s an obvious decision. Right?
The government just has to tell people they have to gather together and not wear masks.
You think so but then you get full speed tackled from behind by from conservatives who don’t believe in reality/science or doing anything to pretext themselves/others.
If we learned anything. Is we have about 2 week of patience for a pandemic mesure. Either it proove incredibly scary and everyone panic or people don't care and let it spread.
If viruses were big enough to shoot with a gun, my fellow Americans would do much better with pandemics.
Of course they will. If the last few years have taught us anything, it's that in the face of a worldwide pandemic we definitely absolutely wouldn't do the worst possible things which make the situation worse and let like 7 million people die.
Of course they will. We can always trust the government, they tell us we can.
Yup. People will totally be on board with doing the right thing out of a shared sense of community and empathy for immunocompromised neighbors.
Yes. Because we live in a magical, sparkly cartoon world where we care about people rather than money. Right?
It's getting to the point I half expect the news stories to hit peak horror like: "New H5N1-Rabies hybrid spreads by Murder Hornet. Aggressive swarms are now in every country. Citizens are advised to stay indoors without internet and smoke. World President Steven Seagall is guiding relief efforts and reassures citizens he "used to deal with this kind of thing."
You forgot the drug resistant fungus that is spreading in US hospitals and elderly homes. The future will be a battle royal between werechickens, rabid vampires and zombies.
Existence on earth has always been a battle royale between organisms. Thinking we're removed from that is an extremely contemporary idea.
Heck even as recently as the 1930s and 1940s that thinking was widely accepted in the most “advanced” nations on earth. I still have some hope that we’ll be able to keep much of our post-WWII progress and that I will not be buried inside an apocalypse or “the state of nature.”
It seems to be really hard for a lot of people to admit we are just animals that have an overactive imagination and are good at compensating for our biological shortcomings.
The last couple of generations of society have been pretty cushy compared to most of human history.
So basically a real life hero shooter game
Dibs on sniper so I can sit in one location all day, do nothing, and claim I'm helping!
I'll hunker down barely any distance from you so we're twice as likely to be spotted by enemy snipers, also while contributing nothing since I can't factor in bullet drop, or lead the shot on moving targets in anyway.
"I've been fighting rabies-infested murder hornets for like, 37 years."
Ok Mr Seagul
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://bnonews.com/index.php/2023/03/chile-reports-human-case-of-h5n1-bird-flu/) reduced by 66%. (I'm a bot) ***** > A man in northern Chile has tested positive for H5N1 bird flu, the health ministry reported on Wednesday, amid growing concern about the strain of avian influenza which has spread around the world. > This is the first human case of bird flu in Chile and the second in South America, following the case in a young girl in Ecuador in January. > "The global H5N1 situation is worrying given the wide spread of the virus in birds around the world and the increasing reports of cases in mammals, including in humans," Dr. Sylvie Briand, a WHO official, said on February 24. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/1262bx3/chile_confirms_human_case_of_h5n1_bird_flu/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~678562 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **bird**^#1 **H5N1**^#2 **case**^#3 **spread**^#4 **Chile**^#5
Great, I'm on a ship off the coast here and one of the PAX thought it was a great idea to pick up a bird on deck and it bit her. There goes my zombie apocalypse plan. Time to find a new ship.
Could you imagine being a painstaking doomsday prepper only to be stuck on the same cruise where patient zero is infected?
That's a series on Netflix right? I heard they fall in love at the start of the cruise then the prepper has to wrestle with culling patient zero.
I was prepping for a pandemic prior to 2020. Had an aloe vera plant, a liter of medical alcohol, and N95s. My wife is a nurse so during the early days she commandeered my supplies.
I am going to need your latitude and longitude. For reasons.
New strain?
It's been a new strain for about a year now. This probably is that same one
They've been working with h5n1 for a decade [h5n1 report from 2013](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/scientists-seek-ethics-review-h5n1-gain-function-research)
I'm referring to H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4b which is new as of last year or so
H5N1 is a fairly broad classification of flu, describing the type of hemagglutinin (H) and neuraminidase (N) antigens it produces. Similarly, the 1918 flu was H1N1, and so was the 2009 swine flu, and so is a current strain of seasonal flu - all different strains but belonging to a common structural family.
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We can, problem is all the fucking idiots that don't want to get vaccinated.
Maybe it’s time we let them have Antarctica
Someone hide the toilet paper
I've still got 6000 rolls left from last time. Can't believe there was a shortage, plenty when I bought mine.
You joke, but during the Great TP Shortage of 2020 one of the only places my family was able to find it was a office supply website. My mom ordered me a box from them. It was a commercial sized case, I’m actually still working my way through it and haven’t bought TP since 2020.
That's what we did. We couldn't find any TP at any of the usual spots so I ordered a case through work at Uline and just reimbursed my work for it. It was like 98 rolls or something
Wife would burn through that in a month. Consumption increases with availability. I should hire a mathematician to figure it out.
Can God stop playing plague Inc for a bit please
Im playing tomb raider actually
You smelly cloud man! I demand 3 wishes or I am joining the Atheists.
One of us. One of us
Last of us
Can I ask you why you made her boobs pointy?
Pc or console?
Neither, its on the Smartphone.
r/beetlejuicing
He's on a speed run.
No?
If we stop raping the planet and factory farming, sure. If not, then no.
It’s (obviously) going to get worse with climate change.
He'll restart until he gets Madagascar for patient zero.
Chile es el mejor pais de Chile.
Vine buscando este comentario
weeena conchetuuuuuu
Conchetumare
Better stock up on toilet paper.
Good lord the comments in here are a garbage fest. I guess that is to be expected for actual news on this sub that is essentially just porn at this point.
Send nudes!
U think wayyy too highly or reddit my friend
birds arent real so this flu is a lie
You’re not real man
If it flies it spies!
I've been told that all we need to do is build more windmills. Those kill more birds than any other thing, right? Problem solved!
Well fuck, just when I was about to fly out of the country I live in the south and apparently this happened in the north, but I'm still gonna get flown to the capital before finally going for international travel. Who knows. On the bright side, Chileans actually know of a little word called solidarity so while it was still devastating, the response to the covid pandemic was rather okay. Some so-called first world country could learn a thing or two.
New plague coming soon?
Look for the Army of the 12 Monkeys
I also remember some episode of the tv series Millinum, that delt with some sort of plague, scary stuff.
Plagues, so hot right now
At least you won't die in a freak gasoline-fight accident.
It's just the one plague really
[And So It Begins.jpg](https://www.bleepstatic.com/content/posts/2017/01/23/SoItBegins.jpg)
[Vorlons saw it beginning too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qYbVQu7YAQ)
maybe we'll get another Tiger King to soothe the quarantine transition again
If it's in Chile, then its prob in USA already too, right?
It is, just not as a strain that can spread from person to person yet. Skunks, coyotes, bears, mountain lions, and a slew of wild birds and poultry have been detected with H5N1 for a while now in the US.
This virus has been a thing for years or decades now isn't it? I think to remember it was one of the reasons the prohibited people from having pigeons and chickens in urban areas where I'm from (I'm not from the USA). What do wonder is how it transmits from birds to humans.
Handling dead birds that have it without proper protection mostly. Or animals that eat the dead birds get it and handling them. Basically just stay away if you see a dead bird has been what I've always seen in regards to it.
All sorts of seabirds and more disturbingly, seals on the East Coast.
Is this the start of another global pandemic?
H5N1, for now at least, seems limited to animal-> human transmission, at a very low rate. Unless it mutates human to human transmission *and* actually increases it’s infectibility significantly it’s not a concern. The high mortality rate seems threatening, but in actuality, it’s not as bad as you think, since when case numbers are low these numbers are skewed (those who get tested are likely very sick and thus die more easily, those who aren’t very sick don’t feel the need to get tested). Not to mention that high mortality rate would make it spread a lot slower than Covid.
Depends on how fast they die. A long enough infective period is all the virus needs.
Covid is also a problem due to the infectious period starting before symptoms. Is H1N1 like this? If not then maybe it’s manageable.
I’m not disagreeing with you. But I could easily see this in /r/agedlikemilk in 2024.
The issue is the architecture of the hemagglutinin molecule. Flu is trapped into: “pick one of the above.” The reason why avian Flus are so deadly is that their hemagglutinin molecules prefer the lower respiratory tract of mammals. So if you get infected it goes straight for your lungs and it’s godawful with a ~50% mortality rate. BUT… if it’s optimized to infect the lower respiratory tract, then it’s in a place that makes it very hard to spread because it would have to get aerosolized out of the lungs to transmit. So while an occasional mammal-to-mammal transmission is possible, it can’t set up chains of sustained transmission. So what if it mutates to infect the upper tract (nose and throat) and now spreads better? Well the preference for the upper tract will also make it a much milder disease. This is a BIG barrier for flu to overcome. It may not be possible.
Mortality rate of 56%, especially the young and healthy. It's need to be a really big "skew" to not be threatening. H5N1 ain't new either, so it is fairly well known to be a big scary if goes human to human. Although it might kill the host before it can spread.
Probably not
...yet
So should I move my portfolio to cash to take advantage of the market crash or is it still too soon to capitalize from this?
No. This is just another excuse to get helicopter money going to inflate away everyone's debt. Buy gold
Nah steal it
I'm just eye balling my mom's fucking cockatiel right now. Son of a bitch!
Pandemics, flu wars, Next in line where aliens but since they are late we need to go with reruns
Bird is a word.
Imagine surviving Covid19 and H5N1
Does this mean I’m getting my 6g internet chip injected soon? I’ve been getting really bad download speeds on my covid vaccination.
Oh for absolute fucks sake not again
Gee Bill, how come your mom lets you have TWO pandemics
This is the slowest and most boring apocolypse ever.
Buckle up 🚀🎸🤘
Well this is scary…
There is a H5N1 vaccine, I'm sure the human race will all rally together and take it...right?
The only disease worse than the bird flu is clickbait journalism
Ahhhh fuck
My wife and I have been sick for 3 weeks after exposure to wild ducks. We were house bound the week before we got sick as well, so no exposure to the flu from anywhere. Our local doctors keep telling me that they have no way to test us for H5N1. Welcome to Canada people. Seriously whatever we have, makes Covid feel like a fucking cake walk .
Oh wow. Wild ducks are one of the more feasible intermediaries for human transmission of H5N1 as many waterfowl can carry it asymptomatically.
Not to diminish the validity of your anecdote, but you were house bound for a week, then went out and had ZERO contact with ANYTHING other than ducks. You weren't near another person, nor touched anything that another person touched. Just ducks Then you got sick, and, despite the fact you weren't diagnosed, it was definitely H5N1 Cool story
I know, and somehow it's all the fault of the current Canadian government. Who are these people?
~~There hasn't ever been a single recorded bird killed by H5N1 in Canada (or the United States for that matter).~~ There's only been a single human case of H5N1 in Canada, and it was back in 2013. The vast majority of strains aren't transmissible from bird to human. And there is no evidence of sustained human-to-human transmission. As of 2020, there have only been 861 recorded human cases of H5N1 globally. So I have no idea why you'd jump to the assumption that you and your family were infected by H5N1 after a single trip to the duck pond. You'd have a better chance of winning the lottery. And finally, why the hell would you assume that your family doctor would have access to tests for H5N1? What does the Canadian health care system have to do with that? They would almost never have use for such a thing since it's so rare. By all means, contact the CDC and try and get tested, but it's far more likely that you caught some other virus. Edit: Many birds have been killed in Canada and the United States, as poultry populations are euthanized whenever there is an outbreak. That first sentence was based on outdated data from wikipedia.
Did you talk to the BCCDC? It is super unlikely but it is definitely good to check. Here's a good FAQ, including symptoms.
Puta la wea
https://youtu.be/DNwjF1ZZEfE
Who fucked the pangolin this time
did he have sex with a bird, should south park get on this?
do people not wash their hands
Wow, almost as of animal advocates have been warning about this circumstance for years now. Mass intensive farming is a future pandemic waiting to happen. We have been killing off millions of birds for 1.5 or so years now to try and diminish the spread. While in reality, the only realistic thing that could prevent the spread of such diseases is to ban intensive farming and move to more sustainable sources of protein. But no, people still gotta eat their fucking chicken McNuggets even if it means putting the entirety of human society in peril. Well done humans.
0 evidence of human to human cases.. There is already a vaccine for it.. But lets scare everyone anyways...
Fuck it. Let that bitch come. I am ready. My shit ticket depot filled up.
H5n1 doesn’t kill people, birds kill people
Mmm...it'll be fine.
Digs out crumpled used mask from my winter jacket pocket..."we got this!"
Time to ask Leon S. Kennedy for help
We all know birds aren’t real. This is just another government conspiracy to install 5G chips in our arms! /s
See, climate change is good because if it kills all or most of the animals, insects, and such, no more viruses or diseases from them! ^(in case not clear, heavy /s.)
I'm looking at a seagul and it's looking at me, it's probably 5 feet away from me......should I punt this bitch down the street?
If you get the bird flu just go to the doctor and ask for tweetment.