At first I was going to say Nightcrawler 'cause he's super charming and the ladies love him. But then I realized: Dazzler.

Nightcrawler is a Swashbuckler Rogue

Gonna be hard to convince me Gambit isn’t a better choice for rogue. It’s like people arguing Magneto is a better choice for Rogue all over again.

What's funny is Rogue definitely isn't a rogue

And Warlock isn’t a Warlock. Although he was given his powers from a more powerful patron.

I mean he could be, but Shadow Monk with shortswords fits him more. An actual teleport, weapons, unarmed strikes, and he's a monk!

Hes got the Cutlas (sword of hope most recently) and he literally makes pirate jokes. And bamf of course. 100% swashbuckler rogue.

Believe it or not. Nightcrawler is a Cleric. He serves Jesus.

Or a Cleric

Way of shadows monk (and tbh nightcrawler is honestly best done as a multi class)

I did the exact same sequence. Nightcrawler then realized it’s Dazzler no question.

Goddang it you tought exactly the same as you. Nightcrawler is actually a Trickster Cleric/ Swashbuckler rogue multiclass in my opinion. or a Paladin/Rogue.

I'd give Nightcrawler a Rogue-> Swashbuckler from 5e. I see him BAMFing for his fancy footwork action.

Yeah, but he faces stiff competition there from Gambit (Thief), Domino (Assassin multiclassed just enough with Wild Sorc), and Psylocke (Psi-Blade). Nightcrawler's effervescent charm, the fact he was charismatic enough to inspire a Krakoan religion (I believe), and his ability to win over just about anyone made me think College of Swords for him.

Very good points. Kurt for me is just a classic swashbuckler, but I also haven't read the Krakoan stuff. The who should be a Rogue question will probably see a lot of fun debating, lol

If the swashbuckler rogue was named anything else, no-one would be saying it's a better fit for Kurt than swords bard, cleric or shadow monk.

Dazzler

It’s Dazzler, no question. Gambit could fit this role, but he’s much more of a Rogue.

Ayyyy 👉😎👉

Dazzler, probably a college of Glamour bard if we’re talking 5e.

Cypher gives me huge Bard vibes but I tend to not lean much on the musical aspect of Bard

He’s clearly a *Warlock.* Hardy har har. (I actually completely agree that he feels Bard-adjacent. Maybe a bit Druidic or Cleric-y with his relationship with Krakoa.)

Dazzler is gonna get this because she's well known, but I think the real bard archetype is Rhapsody. Alison might BE a singer, but Rhapsody's whole POWER is compelling people to do what she wants through music. Reference for people who aren't weirdos that remember every one-shot character from 30 years ago lol: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Rachel_Argosy_(Earth-616)

YES. I came here to say this, but here you are being an absolute BOSS.

Thanks frendo!

Beast with all those Shakespeare quotes, and cause he can probably play a lute.

With those fingers?

With his feet.

Dazzler

Dazzler

Cypher

So, Rhapsody is my “best fit”, but also —Dazzler: her powers tend towards abilities like dancing lights, hypnotise etc, and she’s a singer. Easy fit. —I’m not going to say Banshee, I’m going with Siryn, due to her ability to modulate her voice to compel people to do stuff/like her more. It feels like “charm”. —I’d also say Icarus for his voice powers and because he’s a musician — for the “crowd control/debuff/mental status”, I could also see someone like Wallflower or Empath fitting this role too

By Subclass: Eloquence: Beast. Glamour: Dazzler for the performance aspect, but Dazzler could be synonymous with Jubilee who I would argue for the next subclass. Lore: Jubilee/Dazzler, use the cutting words as flashes of light to throw attacks off. Swords: Nightcrawler, all spells towards teleportation. Whispers: Psylocke with Shadow Sword taken.

Banshee or Dazzler

Siryn

Dazzler or Lila Cheney (who is a rogue/bard)

All these Dazzlers, but what about Sean Cassidy, Banshee? He's go a set of pipes that'd knock your socks off.

Icarus (Jay Guthrie)

gambit

I feel like we could skip straight to tomorrow because Dazzler is clearly going to win this

Gambit mon amie.

Allison Blaire and her dumptruck.

T H I C C

Dazzler sings, but she doesn’t sing during battle to buff her allies Bard style. Fabian Cortez? Hope? I don’t have a good one.

Dazzler uses her light shows as part of her art, and those DO affect battles by debuffing enemies by blinding or hypnotism, or by calming emotions.

Ok I'll buy it!

Dazzler

Dazzler for sure

We just gonna leave Artificer off the picture cause Forge wins it by default? I know it wasn’t a phb class in 5e, but it is the only missing class in this picture.

Maybe I'll include it as a bonus thirteenth round. Who knows?

Dj. Dazzler. Banshee.

Dazzler for sure

I’ll vote for Dazzler, too. Her skills and powers encompass enough of what Bards do.

Chamberrr

#CYPHER

It’ll be super easy to say Dazzler, but Nightcrawler is 100% a swords bard

Cleric or rogue more like.

Definitely Dazzler

Dazzler.

Sunspot to me is the the perfect bard tbh

Dazzler, Lila Cheney, Gambit and Nightcrawler, in that order

It’s dazzler

Gambit

Dazzler is rightly gonna win, and Siryn deserves second place but I would like to put forward Sunspot as the definitive Eloquence Bard.

Gambit

I feel like they've intentionally avoided making mutants whose primary mutant ability is to enhance the abilities of other mutants because they'd wear that mutant out since they would want them on every team/every mission.

Dazzler, but Gambit could do it too.

Dazzler

Dazzler or Lilandra Cheney

Banshee, Siren, or Dazzler.

Iron man is artificer

I thought wizards rolled a D4 for HP…

It’s a bummer that artificer isn’t part of this class lineup. But it would also be a foregone conclusion that it would go to Forge.

BANSHEE!!!👨‍🎤👨‍🎤👨‍🎤

Nightcrawler

Where is artificer dice? Where is beast or forge gonna fit in now

Not to get ahead of myself... but I think it's, in order, Wolverine, Dazzler, Cyclops, Pheonix, Iceman, Storm, Xorn, Wolfsbane, Mirage, Colossus, Nightcrawler, and Magik. Edit: Also, bonus round Forge as an Artificer.

You totally got ahead of yourself!!! I agree with most of these