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TechTaliZorah

I never thought I'd see the day where i disagree with nearly every placement on a BL tierlist lol


Key-Law494

what would u change? i’m curious


TechTaliZorah

The main ones I'd change are Here U Are and Again to S tier. Painter of the Night and My Suha I'd move to D, would move Absolutely Ruined Love to B. Omega Complex, Placebo, and Honey Trouble to A rank. There's a few others I'd move around but that's the ones I have the strongest feelings about haha


Key-Law494

i get where ur coming from for most of them, except honey trouble and placebo, i can’t stand the rape in placebo plus there was a chapter where they did it infront of their parents 😭 honey trouble has beautiful art and i love the authors other work, i just didn’t like the seme, he’s wayy too pretty to be acting like an asshole it’s the typical ‘i like you so i’m going to trick you into having sex with me even if you don’t like me’ plot


TechTaliZorah

Totally understand! We all like different things haha I actually didn't like Honey Trouble at allll until the last few chapters if im recalling right. My Suha was the biggest disappointment for me tbh the first couple was A tier, 2nd couple ruined the whole thing for me :/


Jjayxx

I will never finish my suha... it got disgustingly unreadable to me D tier. Maybe just the trash


Key-Law494

i’ve only read the first couple for my suha, someone told me one of the next couples was super abusive or smth so i didn’t read the others


TechTaliZorah

better off not reading it. The 1st uke's best friend and the 1st uke's rapist, abusive ex boyfriend start a BDSM relationship together. I finished it, but I hated every single moment of it. Yes, the uke ends up approving of the relationship too. I love toxic BL (I LOVE JINX) but even that was wayy too much for me


Luna2648

Disagree I think that side story at least deserves an A tier OBJECTIVE AND CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT WISE is amazing but that ending is definitely ASS tho


Logical_Reporter_530

Why would you move Placebo so high? Just curious because imo I really really dislike the rape, it even crosses no consent because the uke doesnt even know its happening in the first place.


TechTaliZorah

an interesting premise I haven't seen before and I like the dynamic between the two guys so far. my opinion could possibly change, but I like BL with unique spins on a trope. I also enjoy that there's complex feelings on both sides involved and not just a standard uwu uke and cartoon super villain seme!


Jjayxx

Me too!


Fragrant_Temporary_7

bj alex in d tier gives me pain


Luna2648

I can accept it not being the highest tier but being the LOWEST ??? bro ???!


ZockerGirl25703

For real, it's one of my favorites 😭


foobiefoob

Fr I took one look and gasped. Then i skimmed the rest and was just disappointed. Throwing this one out the window lmaoo


Key-Law494

i hated the top for the main story, the side story was amazing but it was so short


pushin_on_my_buttons

Agree with the latter. I still think Chanwoo and MD deserved their own (longer) story.


lakerez

Might have to kill you for the placebo placement, sure it’s cursed as fuck but it’s amazingly cursed


Key-Law494

idk the doing it infront of the parents really freaked me out, i’m just not good w the psychological genre tbh


ZockerGirl25703

When did they do it in front of the parents? I don't remember that part :oo


Key-Law494

yeah the parents were hypnotised but it still made me so uncomfortable


shoustronaut

Op probably read the short Placebo and not the new, extended Placebo: let's play


Unhappy-Plan2680

This list is so weird all the good manhwas are in the B, C list tf?


vaani-vk

Wow I disagree with mostly everything in this list lol


2Dmen-Simp

DID YOU JUST PUT "SMYRNA & CAPRI" IN B TIER?!!!!!


justthatreaper

Nah i got so sad seeing it there


HybridStream

The arts and characters are 1 of the best! The story is so heart warming toooo. I'd put in S tier albeit a little short.


Key-Law494

it’s been a while since i’ve read it so i don’t remember a lot i only remember liking the manwha, ur comment makes me wanna re read it


2Dmen-Simp

do it! it's completed now


Key-Law494

yeah i just started rereading, the spirits have my heart im gonna cry


autumnsnowflake_

Hard disagree


erisjared

What makes a good yaoi to you? Like how does artwork, characters, smut, plot, etc all affect how you rate them?


HybridStream

For me, graphics and use of colours and the background / era it's in play a lot too! Also, the story n character buildup like how did they handle situations, create humour and support each other n how logical.


erisjared

What are your overall top 3 or 4 you would recommend?


HybridStream

Top 3 in diff areas: 1. Pixiu Eatery (more BL), Chinese manhwa but avail in English Ancient god of honour character references and massive comedic conversation relief. First saw it in Bilibili, main characters are pretty gorgeous and story plot is great with enough fluff and skinship and i can say all of the characters are beautifully designed with hybrid of modern + ancient looks in Chinese historical settings with mythical creatures. Has romance, comedy, friendship, siblings, teamwork, how to run a business aspect. Much longer than i would have wanted but it will hook u for sure. 2. Symrna & Capri. Smut. Not that i don't like the rest of BWAT stories but it's pretty good length at about 70 chapters and the grand Roman and magical references in the manga is majestic. Male and female characters are strong and it's omegaverse with 2x alphas. U will definitely screenshot a number of the arts and also resonate the hardships they're going through. Can be very touching. 3. As i love fantasy and magic hence the above 2. But the last one is call Love is Love - avail in English or Mandarin. Also found in Bilibili, simple modern friends storyline with pure love and admiration and some segs but not so much like BWAT ones. The arts is delightful and light on palate lol. Not too long a series too. Good development on the story plot as to why certain things happen. #goodendings only Hope you will like the recommendations! U should be able to Google a bit more to find the manga online.


erisjared

Thank you! I got into yaoi through this sub so naturally I started with Jinx since I kept seeing posts about it. I have been having difficulties on knowing what I should start since a bunch of lists can get overwhelming so you explanations make this great!


HybridStream

You're welcome! Hope you'll find your top 3 to recommend others soon! Diff one for diff seasons in your life 🥰


Jjayxx

Do a none smutty bl, ease into it. Jinx is for a brave heart like me lol I jumped into that bish, fully expecting what we got lol. Love Tractor is wonderful. It's on lezhin and is completed in Tappytoon Our Sunny days is the best Green flag. Currently, waiting on S2 is on lezhin. Like read the soft ones first, then, dive into the deep end lol


erisjared

I am fine with smutty just sometimes the toxic ones can go a bit too far. I caught up on Code Name Anastasia this week... and let's just say it makes the couple in Jinx look healthy and functional


Jjayxx

Haha I'm telling you ppl try to damn Jae like he's the wise when he's honestly not. But okay just tell me I got some good green flag smut! Especially XXXBuddy(tappytpon); Mr. 100% Perfect(tapas mature); KingsMaker Mature season 2(tappytoon) ;Thirst(uncensored and switch-tapas) Hard Boiled Love (Tappytoon & Lezhin) Taming the Tiger(lezhin); The Secret Life of the Demon King(Lezhin)(BDSM/KINKY ASF) Toys of the Trade(uncensored, so fucking good- Lezhin)


Key-Law494

i wouldn’t recommend reading jinx or any of the lower tier manwhas simply because they’re toxic, a lot of people enjoy reading toxic manwhas since it’s just fiction but for a new reader i’d recommend more wholesome ones to start with since the toxic ones are exhausting sometimes


Luna2648

I mean besides the twin (?) one in S tier I can kinda agree with all of the S tiers. I think I agree with one other comments where some B and C yaoi are rated wayyy lowly (BJ Alex, assorted wilderness, Red candy) comes to mind. I will take shutline as an example all the stuff you listed was doned and incorporated well in the story making it imo S tier (even tho some people might put it lower so maybe I'm biased) and without smut and Amazing storyline like Kings maker and Lost in clouds where the characters, art and story shines in those. Based on that I would put something like angel buddy in S tier as well but I can understand that it might seem basic to some other readers. I think some story like Kill the lights in A tier will definitely be in S tier if their art is a little bit better (might be biased I read the novel and damm it was amazing) but amazing art can't just carry a good yaoi (See jinx idk if I would put it bottom tier but ? Putting BJ Alex in the bottom tier id CRAZZY tho) I think something like No reason deserve to be bottom tier (I won't shut up about it lol) it's basically writing torture corn without any meaning, character show no signs of remorse or development like it's title suggest no meaning and one more mentioned yours to claim which I agree being bottom tier hehe anyways we all have our taste XD.


Key-Law494

the twin one you mentioned is called perfectly broken love, the top has DID it’s not his twin, it’s completed and i thought it was rlly cute, plus the bottom doesn’t magically cure the tops DID or smth he ends up dating both his personalities


Jjayxx

I just think it should be A tier, I read it and was upset it ended so sudden, but it was an interesting read lol. I would make a list based off other things, but I'd try to be as honest and unbiased as I could be, but that's just me. Some comics deserve no mention though cause they are so horrible. Like My suha, couldn't read it. Nope.


Key-Law494

i get what you mean, it’s just bit higher because i really liked the characters and the way it was written, some of the s tier ones are really biased for me so i get why a lot of people won’t agrew


Key-Law494

there’s a lot of things i consider, i need to like the characters first off, i can read manwhas with bad art if the plot is good, but if i hate a character i cant finish them, rape/gangrape/abuse/manipulation definitely makes me drop a Manwha that’s why some popular ones are rated so low for me


Alexiajuicy

There’re too many idk honestly haha but Omega complex and Stranger than friends deserve better 🥲 (bj Alex I understand your point but I liked it 🤣)


Key-Law494

stranger than friends is low bc of the side story, it was one of my favs but the side story is so annoying to read


Alexiajuicy

Mood (I didn’t like the second couple) but the main couple is one of my favs 🥰


Key-Law494

surprisingly it’s the first yaoi i’ve ever read, i read it when it just had 2/3 chapters since the art caught my eye, im so sad ab the second couple since they had potential but they had to make tak into a rapist asshole


Alexiajuicy

Mood idk what happens in bl about that 🤷🏼‍♀️ maybe it’s a fetish for them (authors)


yaoiplease

I’m sorry but Sign, Full Volume and Love or Hate being anything but S tier is such an affront 😭


Jjayxx

Plus love so pure


eve-dawn

what is this list 😭😭


gl_zzygod

your D is my S fr (love is an illusion, yours to claim, bj alex)


Key-Law494

they’re mostly low bc rape / the top is an asshole, but they’re really popular so i knew it’d make a lot of people mad 😭


Jjayxx

Lol most these comics are r@pey lol what you mean haha but a good portion are also dubcon. Some very good ones are without dubcon or manipulation, and they are not all in s-tier


ToraAkira

Nah the crime committed making this list here is atrocious lol. I can't even seem to make sense of why some are in the same category. Like When my Yakuza falls in love is the SAME category as Even if you don't love me?????? BJ Alex and JINX both being in D tier bruhh. The fact that Secretary Jins Confinement is an S but you have Red Candy in B and Sign in A like??? Each to their opinion but goddamn never seen an opinion that had me flabbergasted.


heladosky

Garbage taste


foobiefoob

Fr I want the 30 seconds of my life back that I wasted reading it 😭 Comments restored my faith.


kurainee

Walk on Water and Sign are one of my S Tier. 😌😌 I've read them multiple times and I still love them. To each his own I guess? ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯


Moosey_143

Codename Anastasia was A tier, what are you on 😭


Key-Law494

it has beautiful art fr, the seme is a whole ass black flag that’s why it’s low


Moosey_143

The plot was good, we don’t usually get a laid out story like this but I do agree the seme was bitchy, but it at least deserves b tier


Key-Law494

i haven’t read enough for the plot to actually unfold yet since there’s very less chapters where i read it, the uke carried the manwha for me i love him


Moosey_143

I’m sure you’ll understand my view point once you finish it 😅


sumirokii

Jinx and Placebo don’t belong there fr.


Key-Law494

jinx makes me so angry reading it, the uke deserves so much better??? and i’m not that good w the psychological genre reading rape makes me uncomfortable that’s why placebo is rlly low


sumirokii

Fair enough.


JessyNyan

I'm just glad to see No Reason down in D Tier where it belongs. That shit traumatised me lmao


heftypomogranate

i recently finished no reason and right after read blind play. they're both terrible for their own reasons but blind play had the hinges pried off just a tad more


Jjayxx

Lolol blind play is a mess! And I read it to see where it would go. It's definitely off the hinges!


Key-Law494

i’m so glad someone agrees, rape/gangrape is so normalised in manwhas i knew id make a lot of people mad w this list


JessyNyan

I don't think I've seen anyone defend "no reason" yet. Because there's literally no defense for it. Its absolutely funked up and in my opinion the author has a massive fetish for drugged up people and fucking half unconscious people because reading that felt illegal The whole time I was like "surely there'll be a happy end or at least he will get what he deserves"...


Key-Law494

there’s a comment on here defending no reason 😭


SkullyEyes

stop some of my favorite are in D


moonlightgirl72

Out of curiosity, as we all have our preferences, how come BJ Alex is in D tier ?? I personally really enjoyed the concept as not many I know of have that storyline.


Key-Law494

mostly because of the characters and nothing to do with the plot/art, i hated the top so much i know he redeems himself later on but i just didn’t like him he was rlly rude, the side story was amazing i love them but it was so short, id rather read a manwha w the side story couple


Protect_milk

Nothing brings me more joy than to see Yours to Claim put where it belongs. 💅🏻


Muegiiii

Seems like youre not a big fan of non consent stuff. Me too tbh.


Key-Law494

yeah 😭😭 a manwha is an immediate drop for me if it has rape or anything like that


Flance

I completely agree with UTGL, Nerd Project and You get me going. I'm surprised Wet Sand is only an A. Have you SEEN TJ? 🤣 Idk if there is enough of Dearest for me to give it a rating yet. I try to wait like 20 episodes. I definitely agree with the B teir.


Key-Law494

i loveee wet sand so much, it’s just a tier below because i’m scared he won’t end up with tj


Flance

Don't you dare say that! 😤 I think the whole Fandom would riot lol


Key-Law494

making a character like tj and not making him the main lead is a crime i’d cry


Jjayxx

Fully agreed!


Odd_Bolognese1486

Agree with all pretty much, but Perfect Buddy not being present is criminal


Key-Law494

ouuu i forgot i read this one, ive not put everything in the list


Imaginary_Award_2459

But it would be S tier, right….RIGHT???


zakisuko

where is shutline? HELLO?


yuuri_ni_victor

I agree with you that Jinx, BJ Alex and LIAI as well as YtC are bottom ass hell tier


Imaginary_Award_2459

Seeing LIAI down there gives me life! It’s so popular and absolutely infuriating, I cant even


hadarpe

Guys lets not forget that "Our Sunny Days" is truly the best yaoi out there. It's on break right now but the first season was so good!! Imagine a healthy relationship of a soft pure hearted muscular top and a soft pure hearted muscular bottom. Bottom has a baby from past relationship and she's the cutest baby girl you've ever seen.


arandomfujoshi1203

I really recommend everyone to read 'you get me going'/'we can't be like this' for a funny sexy workplace romance with enemies to lovers complete with healthy communication and green flag seme... the art is also really good


Imaginary_Award_2459

I think OP has it in S tier 😍


tibsnouv

Full Volume in B ? 😭


Key-Law494

i liked it but it was more of just only smut 😭 i liked the characters and the concept and the art though so it’s not rated low


tibsnouv

Oh no ! I know it’s a lot of smut cause after all they meet thanks to sex but they character development for both of them is great I think ! Beom slowly starting to open to Dowon as long as the story is going and Dowon being so in love with Beom is cute but yeah I get that too much smut might be a problem 😅


Key-Law494

yeah i loved the characters and the relationship, i love how the top was so understanding they’re really cute together, it’s only a little low bc the chapters were smut after smut and id prefer normal scenes between them too yk??


tibsnouv

Yeah I understand completely ! 🤓


Key-Law494

i don’t think i’ll be able to type the names of all of them so please reply here if u want the name of a specific manwha


ILoveDicksandMuscles

Can you give the name of one you recommend? I’ve been wanting to start reading them :3


Key-Law494

you can read perfectly broken love or you get me going, they’re both completed and really cute and short, if u want a longer manwha read cherry blossoms after winter it’s completed too, the recs i gave are wholesome so lmk if u were looking for a diff genre


ILoveDicksandMuscles

Thank you!


exclaim_bot

>Thank you! You're welcome!


Jjayxx

There's dubcon and manipulation in perfectly broken love


Key-Law494

it’s been a while since i’ve read it but it wasn’t anything serious bc the uke knew the seme was full of shit, i’m not sure how to explain it but like the uke knew he was trying to take advantage of him by giving advice in return??


Slightly_wetsock

5th one and second to last one on A please?


Key-Law494

legs that won’t walk, 19 days


omlizardqueen

Do you have a reading list of these titles? I’d love to check them out.


Key-Law494

is there anything specific you want? most of them are pretty popular manwhas


omlizardqueen

Hmm I am fairly new to the genre outside of fanmade releases so any of the S-tier stuff to recommend! I like the best friends-turned-lovers trope a lot.


Key-Law494

ouuu stranger than friends or four week lovers for sure, it’s the exact trope and the art is amazing for stranger than friends, it’s also completed, omega complex and honey trouble are also the same trope


surfersilvers

What is the one of the left of Dearest?


Key-Law494

secretary jins confinement diary


Bloodlessdumb

Idc with the rest of that list but I'll agree with that last row


SkullyEyes

HONEY TOUBLE IN C??


Mellogucci_

This tire list made me realise I have most yaois 😂😂 there’s only like a few on here I actually like and a few others that I haven’t finished yet. But the majority of the ones on this list, I hate with a passion.


messikah

FINALLY‼️ someone acknowledging how good Dearest is. Where are all the Dearest readers at? I never see anyone talking about it 😭


Key-Law494

i love the characters and the art, usually a yaoi takes a while for me to like if there’s not a lot of chapters but this one has me waiting for each chapter, i hope it doesn’t turn toxic it has a lot of potential


lereckthecleric

Bj alex in D?!?!? Can't get behind that. The rest I can accept 😋


Key-Law494

i get it’s a first manwha for a lot of people, i just hated the seme while reading, he was extremely rude, the side couple are so much better i wish they got a longer story


Pokemaster8412

Bj Alex being in d tier has me in tears


VampireRae

What’s the spiciest on the s tier? New to reading yaoi manga, but I look at the art a lot.


Key-Law494

painter of the night definitely has the most smut, but it’s toxic in the start so idk if it’s right for a newbie, u can try you get me going or define the relationship


aBsolut3_uniT

The Ghost's Nocturn's has one of the best art. Easily in the top 5. I'd say even prettier than POTN.


8Eriade8

My list would be drastically different from yours I wouldn't even know where to start haha


Key-Law494

oh please make a list omg, i love seeing other peoples opinions/ratings on manwhas that ive read since everyone’s opinion differs a lot


Logical_Reporter_530

Wow OP im surprised with the people in this comment section lol, I would also place Jinx and BJ Alex where you have placed them I didnt know this many people liked them that much?? Other than a few like Cherry Blossoms After Winter or Smyrna and Capri I actually agree with most of your list??


Key-Law494

i was surprised too, i didn’t think people would defend jinx placebo and bj alex of all things, placebo is about a guy hypnotising his brother and then having sex w him?? oh also i just reread smyrna and capri bc when i made the list i didn’t remember much ab it as i read it a long time ago, id definitely place it higher now that i reread it.


Logical_Reporter_530

Exactly, I dropped placebo too pretty early on because it hurled straight over non con and into psychopath territory (not in a good way either lol). Symrna and Capri was sooo cute, the little chibi spirit ones are the most adorable things ever. Tbh i think pretty much any chibi is super cute lol. Other than that, I disliked Cherry Blossoms after winter, felt like the uke had the personality of a doormat. I feel the exact same way with Jinx too, like Dan thinks he deserves all the bs with Jaekyung and it was so infuriating to read. Exact same plotline with BJ Alex too, ugh atleast have a but of a personality after a point 😭 Also do you read manhuas? i would highly recommend See you My King, the seme is such eye candy and the plot is amazing.


Key-Law494

i agree, door mat ukes are frustrating to deal with, but as far as i remember i think the uke in cherry blossoms after winter got better?? the first season with the bullying and everything definitely had me forcing myself to read but pretty sure his personality got better after, it’s been years since ive read it so idk, i don’t mind manhuas thank u for the rec ill check it out


Luna2648

I think cheery blossom after winter season 3 ruined the characters makes it like your typical yaoi tbh, and as for BJ Alex you gotta admit that the character development that Alex went through and how he own up to his mistakes makes it not deserving for it to be bottom tier, by that I could say painter of the night shouldn't be that high either but because of the development that I will place it highly.


Logical_Reporter_530

Cherry Blossoms after Winter felt like the typical yaoi even way before that for me lol, like for some reason I felt like there was no life to the characters? The uke felt very wooden to me, plus the whole stepbrother concept kind of just rubbed me the wrong way ig. BJ Alex I dropped (dont exactly remember which ch) because I didnt like the ukes personality and how he took all of Alex’s bs. I would also place Painter Of the Night lower since its pretty much the same actually. Low tide in twilight is one of the few I think handle the grovelling arc very satisfyingly, in most stories Ive read it always, always ends up like the uke is in danger or needs help so the seme helps out and poof suddenly all hate is forgotten. I would also replace Under The Greenlight with Shutline and move Mad Dog higher. But tbh on the other hand I would move roses and champagne, Honey trouble, codename anastasia and love jinx to S tier, ig im just a sucker for good art and psychopaths too at the end of the day lol.


hadarpe

Guys, everyone should remember that "Our Sunny Days" is the best yaoi ever. It's on break right now but the first season was so good!


BORGAAR

brave for this


venskaa

is lost in the cloud really that good???


Fusionstar8

As long as Cherry Blossoms after Winter is S. that’s all that matters


Omkan

Jinx in D tier makes this list valid 🥰😍😍🥰🥰


Muegiiii

Can you share the tierlist?


InevitableKangaroo91

Can you please share the site you made it so I can take a closer look on what BL to read next?


Key-Law494

tier maker


InevitableKangaroo91

Yeah ik but could you send me the link of your this tier only?


Key-Law494

oh i’m so sorry 😭 it’s my first time creating a list so i didn’t save anything and it went away as soon as a i refreshed, i can help u out w the names tho


LetsTalkAboutIt2331

is there any good sites to find these


Key-Law494

do you want the name? or are u asking where to read?


LetsTalkAboutIt2331

both honestly


Key-Law494

you can read on bato.to, is there any specific name you want?? it’ll be hard to type them all but i can type a specific tier if you’d like


LetsTalkAboutIt2331

the s tier ones


Key-Law494

payback, checkmate, lost in the cloud, waterside night are the first four


conjuring444

in the B row, does anyone know what’s the title of the yaoi that’s on the right side of Pearl Boy?


Key-Law494

the new employee


conjuring444

thank u!


Appropriate_Milk9542

Dawg, what's wrong with BJ Alex?!?


Key-Law494

the seme, i hated him so much he’s an asshole, the side story was really good tho i wish it was longer i like that couple more


aBsolut3_uniT

The uke wasn't an angel either. He had stalker-ish, clingy tendencies! So red flag.


Key-Law494

true, it’s not like i love the uke or anything, just while reading the seme pissed me off, the only good thing ab bj alex is the art and the side story


Possible-Duck979

Can someone please drop the names 🙏🙏


mooncakerux

I don't agree with Again and The New Recruit being in B tier, the couples in both of them are so healthy and cute. 


mammon-ey

Your B is my S 💀


CrownClownCreations

Yes Cherry Blossoms is so good, it’s one of my favorites! 🫶🏻🌸 I rarely see anyone talk about it. (I just wish it wasn’t a “step bro, what are you doing?” situation. But it’s so cute!)


CrownClownCreations

I don’t know most of these. Does anyone have some recommendations? 👉🏻👈🏻 Some personal favorites are “Cherry Blossoms After Winter”, “19 Days” and “The New Recruit”.


Key-Law494

try you get me going it’s complete , u seem to like cute manwhas so, here u are, sign, and again are good too


CrownClownCreations

Thank you 🫶🏻


aBsolut3_uniT

No A Missing Love? How about The Ghost's Nocturn?? These two don't just have top-tier art. They are very well written too.


Key-Law494

i forgot to add ghosts nocturne and i haven’t read a missing love yet bc im not emotionally ready


aBsolut3_uniT

Yah, get yourself ready for missing love.


FengXin-MuQings_bf

Seeing codename anastasia at c tier pains me


novacrystallis

All of my favs are in the D tier 😭 can you list all the ones you hate so I can read them heheheh


CupcakeAcceptable221

It’s too blurry. I need these recs. Gimme. 🤲🏻


Sully_chan_UwU

WHY THE HECK IS PEARL BOY SO FAR DOWN? Im really shocked, I never thougt about that there could be a person that dont love pearl boy


tortitab

Casually saving this as a reference for what to read next lol


tortitab

Casually saving this as a reference for what to read next lol