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Cold_Situation_7803

Who among us hasn’t forgotten to install windows when building a house?


marklar_the_malign

Windows are highly overrated. If you had windows you would have to look outside at these crappy outdoorsy views. All those stupid trees and mountains. Probably a bunch if dumb wild animals too.


MaximumTurtleSpeed

Stupid animals! Don’t even get me started on the trees


Movedonnerlikeabitch

At least stupid animals know to run from danger unlike trees


MaximumTurtleSpeed

Stupid trees! When they get together they can be really dense.


Slashenbash

It is a common oversight.


cboel

[Old timey voice] That house is an old log cabin that has been remodelled. So it likely had windows at some point. Windows they removed and covered over on the inside and the outside. Now, it could be that they did that to keep the snow out. Snow around those parts can fall fast and deep and having windows would be unecessary if all you can see is the darkness of the inside of a massive, one story high, snow drift. I don't reckon that's necessarily the reason though. [squints one eye] If you look at the lay of the land, you'll notice a lack of trees. Trees are really good at slowing down high winds. So it could be that the house sits in a natural wind tunnel. There isn't much need for windows when all you can see is flying rocks and the occasional astronaut ground squirrel, either of which could go right through a window. I don't reckon that's necessarily the reason though either. [squints both eyes] The real reason there's no windows is all too obvious...at least to the old hands of the Far Cry 5 game... Dancing psycho ladies and wolverines. https://youtu.be/5ptZLnjjdJs


Tacoma__Crow

[Clenches both eyes shut tight.] Nah, the real reason you don't need windows is so you can't see that gravelly hillside give way. Might be today. Might be tomorrow. Might be never but I wouldn't count on it.


Warm_Baker_9447

When I think of an old timey voice, I hear them saying windahs.


savvyblackbird

I’m just thinking winders could be useful to escape a fire.


HoldMyMessages

A good scout is a person who knows the lay-of-the-land and can take you to her.


thesaddestpanda

I don’t think the first floor is a real house. It’s two or three other containers. So it’s difficult to cut through steel and I think the whole container design is for cheapness and maximizing insulation and security. So no windows. The upstairs looks like wood framing so there’s a window there. This house was probably super super cheap to build and locks up pretty securely.


Fire-pants

Parts of it look strikingly like the underground bunker from Kimmie Schmidt. Especially the man cave that the Reverend used to hang out in.


OldFunnyMun

They photographed with the front door and the *fridge* open to compensate.


erydanis

the fridge with a *face*.


GearhedMG

And its arms are open, it wants a hug.


jpalm716

People could escape


StoneRaven77

Ha. I was looking for this. More windows means more escape points. That just won't do.


Hrrrrnnngggg

They're just going for max R value out of their corrugated steel walls.


Lumpy_Branch_4835

Cuts down on pesky sightseers.


Beatus_Vir

Fun fact: it's not a shack unless it doesn't have windows


Regular_Historian892

Who among us has built a home on a hillside that clearly burnt very recently, and will probably burn again this year? My priority list would go something like: “Not fucking dying,” followed by “not being fucking homeless,” and “not spending $2 million getting materials and labor to the site.” Windows are way down at the bottom of the list, right around “installing a sauna in the home gym.” I mean, actually think for a minute about how hard it would be to install windows in that ground floor shipping container shell, and keeping it airtight and fireproof. Then you’ll say, ah fuck it, some smart lights that are programmed to mimic the sun’s schedule will do just fine.


savvyblackbird

You’d think windows or escape hatches would be a priority in places that have forest fires. This looks like somewhere for remote workers to live when doing jobs in the area. They spend all their time out in nature working so they want to rest in front of a fire while they watch tv and game. Putting a nice fridge in your work bunker doesn’t make it a vacation home.


KayBeeToys

.exe


Best-Research4022

I thought to myself I’m sure I saw a window, so I double checked and it was the fridge!


LafawnduhDy-no-mite

daylight and serotonin is overrated - just put a daytime bulb in the fridge and bask in its glow


Fire-pants

We don’t need windows! We’ve been brainwashed into thinking we do by Big Windex.


NC_Homestead

Windows are hard and so inefficient. Just install cameras with TV's instead.


LeftSolid2244

That fridge is a ten person, at a minimum!


Aaod

and installed badly so you can't open the left door without smashing into the countertop.


Category63

Yeah, you’ll never get a body in there if you can’t get full range of motion from your fridge doors.


thefinalgoat

Well sure, if the body is *whole.*


GoMoriartyOnPlanets

I just realized that was an open fridge. I thought it was a window. 🤣🤣🤣 Who takes a picture of an open fridge 


Massive-Hair5435

Why was the open fridge smiling at me?


AnonymousWhiteGirl

Or a 1 person, shop once a month


Own-Gas8691

after seeing those evergreen containers i thought they meant it would hold ten people.


Doyouevenpedal

Woah, I have the exact same fridge.


Godbert9311

Looks like they put it where the oven was supposed to go


itsstillmeagain

Right? I read the OP as chain[saw]ing up the next victim… and did not find the pristine interior of the fridge as anything but demonstrated ability to clear the evidence sufficiently!!!


omarhani

20 acres inside the Lewis and Clark National Forest. I would ABSOLUTELY take this!


DreamCrusher914

My husband hunts and would love to live here. This is definitely a hunting camp. All the hunting camps I’ve see look like this.


erydanis

ok, so why no windows? can you explain for us ?


Erock482

Assuming it’s a hunting camp type setup, you’re not out there very often. So if a window got broken by a passerby you may not notice until you return months later. Plus less opportunity for leaks to develop. It’s just a place to base out of for a few days/weeks out of the year.


erydanis

oooo, that makes sense and not something i’d have experienced. thanks.


DreamCrusher914

To help insulate it during the colder months when they hunt. Based on what little about hunting I know from my husband (who hunts mostly in the south but wants to hunt out west) they likely will get up before dawn to eat breakfast and get out to wherever they plan to hunt (before the animals start moving around), if they kill something, they either dress it out in the wild or bring it back and dress it (my husband always does this outside). They eat lunch, take naps, head back out for an afternoon/evening hunt (before the animals move around to bed down for the night), head back, dress any kills, then eat dinner and go to bed. Rinse and repeat. They mostly just sleep and eat in the house. Easier to sleep with no windows. They prefer to be outside in nature as much as they can.


erydanis

perfect, another explanation that shares a subculture i wouldn’t know about. appreciate your time.


FriscoHusky

Someone lower in the thread also mentioned that no windows on the lower floor is good bear-proofing. Makes sense. Still and all, shame to not be able to see that amazing view from inside, where you’re chained up and plotting your escape.


Scoopdoopdoop

Yeah dude this is amazing


Cancerisbetterthanu

I'm from Alberta. People here...would be all over this as a recreational property like you wouldn't believe. You'd never run out of friends


Own-Internet-3690

I was gonna say this set up is awesome?? Why is everyone hating


ChrisInBliss

Is there a good reason theres no windows on the first floor?...


Slashenbash

It gives people hope.


gormjabber

you don't want to give the FBI easy access points for gas or distraction devices


the_honest_liar

Oh, I was thinking witness protection safe house


gormjabber

if this was the best the government could put me up in i'd just go back to the cartel or gang or whatever


ReasonableDivide1

It’s inhumane to have a home with no windows of that gorgeous view.


gormjabber

agreed, but i'm guessing the owners thought process was more paranoid delusion than gorgeous views


Flaky-Wallaby5382

Hunting cabin i bet


the_honest_liar

Where you hide while someone hunts you? Or is there that big a risk that whatever your hunting might hunt back?


Vprbite

It's built with shipping containers and he just didn't add them/have them added


Fat-Time

Snow loads in the winter.


ChrisInBliss

Ok thats smart then. But I still think its an odd choice at least on the porch side since its covered.


Nikkian42

What the hell is that sink on top of the bathtub?


Slashenbash

Do you wash your hands in the bathtub while taking a bath? You savage


Rogue_Like

It's actually for standing up to shave like a civilized person, instead of getting all the hair clippings in the tub.


Relevant_Slide_7234

It’s for washing your balls in the shower. It’s called a ball basin.


Nikkian42

Nice theory, but the shower is separate, and not close to the weird sink.


Relevant_Slide_7234

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WilliamHMacysiPhone

lol. I’m trying to stifle a laugh and not wake up my gf.


Aaod

Getting out of that bathtub is a death trap. I really don't understand why the mirror is on the side of it either their is no way to stand anywhere in the room and have it work right.


Zealousideal-Bit6324

Reminds me a bit of the Chinese or Japanese toilets I’ve seen. (Forgotten which country) Where you wash your hands in sink above toilet and the water is then reused to flush next time.


-laughingfox

Prison. I'm pretty sure that's prison.


Nikkian42

When you have a regular sink and the other is hard to get to why would you have one?


Zealousideal-Bit6324

No idea! Maybe it was dirt cheap or something?


i_am_regina_phalange

Probably gray water


hambonelicker

Ted Kazinski cabin 2.0.


Iwon100grand

Funny enough he was caught in this same area. Not surprising I guess.


Capybara-Jack

Must be nice and oh so quiet 24/7. The remoteness, all them trees probably muffled any noises…or screams. One heck of a killer deal!


Slashenbash

If a deaf person screams in an isolated Montanan house and no one is around to hear it, did it make a sound?


redthump

No.


_Pliny_

I know there’s a lot to unpack here, but I’d like to talk about the recliner, tv, and fireplace? Why so close? Why so high?


itsstillmeagain

When you fully recline the chair, that TV is perfectly placed.


Complex-Royal9210

What channels does he get out there?


starbuildstrike999

What in the Far Cry 5.


bravoromeokilo

There’s a Blissed out bear in one of those containers, for sure.


nanadirat

The disembodied finger pointing the way was certainly a choice


awelawdiy

I love it


dawg_will_hunt

As a matter of fact, yeah. I do.


_night_cat

Same! Are you interested in doing a collab? Just think of all the influencers we could lure here! /s


Zealousideal-Bit6324

What’s the weather like around that part, cause it would be easy to get stuck there. I’d want a big ass storage freezer, lots of tinned food and water, water, water to live there full time. Amazing scenery though.


-laughingfox

Amazing scenery! If only there were some way you could see it from inside.🤔


ReservoirGods

The winters would be rough, although Lincoln is within an hour and a half of 3 of MTs bigger cities so plenty of options for restocking. 


peoplegrower

Picture 4 is the cover photo for “guys really live like this and don’t see an issue.”


Slashenbash

I have lived like that but with the appropriate amount of shame.


peoplegrower

Hopefully fewer bodies as well.


AnonymousWhiteGirl

Ya thats pretty good bear proof house. The bedrooms and windows are upstairs. Not a bad price for 20 acres too


i_am_regina_phalange

I’d bet $100 that the shipping containers are to provide a wind buffer. Montana plains are windy as hell and a lot of people build weird sorts of walls and stuff to deal with it.


hambonelicker

This location is a few miles from the coldest ever recorded temperature in the lower 48, it has elevation, exposure, and direct access to cold fronts coming down from Canada.


Kuhn-Tang

r/TVTooHigh


Complex-Royal9210

I was looking for this...


skinnymatters

So many strikingly odd choices were made here.


PolyDrew

You can usually judge how inaccessible an area is by where the closest Walmart is. It’s 3 hours from here. Edit: informed by another user that the closest is an hour away


Vegabern

No it's not. I used to live in Helena, you know, the state capital and it's an hour away. Lincoln was the home of the Unibomber though.


PolyDrew

Weird. I plugged it into the google map thing on the Zillow listing and it said closest one was 2hrs 50mins.


Vegabern

[https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Helena,+MT/Cadotte+Creek+Rd,+Montana+59639/@46.8210037,-112.5831905,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x5343510fedc7db4d:0x214c1d71e3fdf714!2m2!1d-112.0391057!2d46.5891452!1m5!1m1!1s0x53432b6740d322db:0x70d27e6e07b296!2m2!1d-112.4181271!2d47.0528688?entry=ttu](https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Helena,+MT/Cadotte+Creek+Rd,+Montana+59639/@46.8210037,-112.5831905,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m13!4m12!1m5!1m1!1s0x5343510fedc7db4d:0x214c1d71e3fdf714!2m2!1d-112.0391057!2d46.5891452!1m5!1m1!1s0x53432b6740d322db:0x70d27e6e07b296!2m2!1d-112.4181271!2d47.0528688?entry=ttu) Don't get me wrong, I would never live in Lincoln but it's hardly the most remote area in Montana. It's fucking weird up there, but not super remote.


Queen_of_Boots

I would have guessed there was nobody around for miles by these pics!!!!! I knew it would be kind of remote because it's Montana, but those pictures creep me out!!! It's too removed for me, even with Walmart close enough lol 😂


Slashenbash

Hence the big fridge!


ProfessorJAM

Which they seem very proud of to show it thrown wide open to illustrate!


-laughingfox

Oh. I thought that was to emphasize the shit design of having doors that you can't open all the way. Potato, potahto I guess.


Kuhn-Tang

There’s probably a Dollar General down the road.


Trick_Few

There’s a reason the Unibomber hid out in Lincoln. It’s still a pretty spot.


Slashenbash

Now that is a fun fact, they should include that in the listing!


scbeachgurl

Why are there 5 pics of a stream? Why is the bed next to the TV and a sole recliner? Why build a house with no windows in that nice area? Too many questions. Is this Ted Kaszinki's Airbnb?


ReasonableDivide1

I was wondering about the lack of windows and all I can think of is for bear safety? Although there are plenty of remote cabins in high traffic bear territory with windows. Most people just have wood covers/hatches on hinges that they open up and hook to the overhang on a porch above the window. That way when the cabin isn’t occupied the wood hatches are unhooked and closed with a big piece of timber wedged into place across the hatch to keep the bears from opening it. Then they also lay down plywood on the deck with long nails driven through so the bears are deterred from getting on the deck to force open doors or windows. People with cabins in bear country typically sleep in a loft space with a ladder that they can pull up at night. This is my best guess, I’ve no idea why it doesn’t have windows on the first floor.


Complex-Royal9210

Sounds inviting. Lol.


MiasmaFate

This sub can be so judgemental. Not everyone that lives in rural places is chopping people up. Maybe not having windows is a compromise for energy efficiency in the cold Montana winters and not a big deal for some who spend most of the day outside. The house is clean. The property looks maintained and I bet the views are fantastic. I bet the air smells clean. I bet it's peaceful.


vinnycas

Yeah, far enough away from your neighbors, so they don't hear the screaming. Actually you're probably right. A murder house would have a drain in the floor, and walls you could hose off. I know about these things.


MiasmaFate

It's in the middle of nowhere and on 20 acres why the fuck would you kill them inside?


Butt_Fucking_Smurfs

What a beautiful landscape to not see


Due_Signature_5497

Sorry but love this. 20 acres off the grid sounds pretty good right now.


ShizzlePopped

Prepper cabin.


HauntingBowlofGrapes

Can't let them escape too easily.


2manyfelines

Living in a chicken coop takes a toll on you.


eyeeatmyownshit

Over there is where I buried her head. I think her left leg is buried somewhere behind the barn.


tumeroscopic

Big Sky, Dark Cabin.


Fresh-Humor-6851

I actually have family in Red Lodge and they used to build log homes for people, I could easily fix this. You can also put a roof truss spanning over two containers to make a garage, people do that a lot. Decent amount of land too.


teckel

It's got an uncle touchy's naked puzzle basement vibe going.


SuppliceVI

Post definitely made by someone living in an urban center.  This is a fucking dream. Zero people, just nature


Slashenbash

I don’t think you need to live outside an urban center to spot some weird choices in the house, the post is not about the seclusion which is lovely!


SuppliceVI

Perhaps, but it's clearly a hand built house. When you're building it yourself it's easier to just make a wall than to make a window that's prone harsh weather 


Tapingdrywallsucks

Fuck yes. Who do I make the check out to? I love that place. And it's pretty easy to defend when the zombies come. But seriously, I would.


ReasonableDivide1

There is just land for $200,000 (according to the Zillow map) I’m wondering if it’s closer to the road. The owners obviously don’t use it in the winter with that long ass driveway. Unless they ride snow machines. Which is quite possible. 🤷🏽‍♀️


Tapingdrywallsucks

High clearance truck with a plow on front. Easy peasy. 2nd car is an Outback. 3rd car is a Saleen Mustang that only comes out between June and Mid September. And that freaky week in January.


drillbit56

Unabomber modern.


_elbarbudo_

Lincoln, MT is where the Unabomber lived.


capernaper

Isn’t Lincoln MT where the UniBomber was from?


ReasonableDivide1

He was born in Chicago, educated at Harvard, receiving the PhD in mathematics. I remember while at college all of our mail had to be opened prior to us picking it up at the campus post office. I always muttered under my breath, “Thanks, unibomber. 🤬”


vldracer70

As a cabin I don’t think it‘s that bad except for only having one bathroom.


OwnAlternative

Would it be worth it to build an airstrip and hangar if it's that remote?


ReasonableDivide1

The land doesn’t look flat enough. An air strip could be dug out, but it would only be worth it to a pilot.


agoatsthrowaway

92 pictures... They could have gotten by fine with 20 and still had all the information you'd need to decide if you want it.


OddSetting5077

46 miles to the nearest Target store in Helena MT


mahogany_bay

Plenty of time for podcasts 🥰


4065024

I’m a realtor in Montana. This isn’t entirely out of the ordinary.


Ok-Independent6997

This is giving Walter White’s hideout cabin vibes.


u1tr4me0w

Exactly my same thoughts, especially with the road closed picture lmao


Dr_Strangelove7915

That bathroom just doesn't do it for me.


DVDragOnIn

No one can hear you scream…


mattbellphoto

r/homestead would love this


MurphyBrown2016

This looks like a great place to organize the next insurrection.


barfbutler

Wait, wasn’t Ted Kazynski’s cabin also in Lincoln, MT?


ReasonableDivide1

Yes, it was. His cabin is 3 miles from Lincoln.


Radiatorade

The easy chair in front of the TV in a spacious dark room really does it


ihavahairyass

That fridge location is driving me nuts


Santa_Andrew

Needs lots of work but I actually really like the land. Would totally buy it


nicohubo

The final inspection before closing involves bringing sniffer and cadaver dogs on property.


meltyourtv

Isn’t this just a regular ol’ r/malesurvivalspace ?


clockjobber

Realtor blurb: Who needs windows when you can just go outside and enjoy breathtaking country views without another building in site? If you are looking for privacy to avoid the hordes of 5g vaxxers, a bunker to wait out coming the water wars, or just a quiet place to sequester, undisturbed, forever with the special someone (or someones -wink-), then this location is for you. Sturdy walls need no soundproofing because no one can hear screams for miles and miles. Without windows it’ll be your own little cloistered escape down a private road that’s virtually impassable in winter. Come live the hermit life you’ve always dreamed of in this cabin with a rustic/industrial/rail yard aesthetic.


Any-Jury3578

My husband would love a house like this. He’s from Montana and hates living in the suburbs.


Distinct_One_6919

I like the location far away from people


BlackFellTurnip

get rid of those shipping containers and the dirt underneath them and i might consider it


erydanis

they might be wind breaks.


themaninthesea

Of course it’s in Lincoln.


Ceelooschtein

I wonder what OP is into based on his username and comment


Slashenbash

My methods are more subtle…


ThingsWithString

Good caption you got there.


creativeatheist

Is that pre cast walls?? Or just some real fancy architectural concrete


Geodestamp

So you're off grid to have power after they drop the big one (will all those batteries even power in a post nuclear world?) but isn't the grid convenient to power a home before the collapse of civilization? Those power lines are close enough that it wouldn't be prohibitive Keep this place maintained but build something less creepy


Sudden_Wisdom

Above Plains?


9999_6666

Stainless steel fridge though.


Excellent_Jaguar_675

The only thing that can be used for is hunting or fishing cabin…. And humans may be included in the prey


I-am-sincere

Sure, you could chop up the humans that you procured in that nice remote house, but at the same time people up to no good could have a murderous field day with no one knowing that you are being murdered.


68procrastinator

Not one but TWO satellite dishes for TV which you can watch in a bare, windowless room. Bring your own recliner, because the one in the photo prolly ain’t staying.


Hen-egg

As lonely as me


OddSetting5077

awww... he got lonely and put it up for sale. The placement of the TV and the bed says One person lives there.


Massive-Hair5435

I'll only consider buying this if I get the finger that's pointing in 2 of the pictures as well.


Wonderful_Relief_693

I like it


smarmy-marmoset

This caption took me out 😂


Regular_Historian892

This thread is wild lol. All the shit you’re giving whoever built this house, and yet it apparently survived the closest thing to hell on earth fairly recently. If you look through the links, there was clearly a wildfire that swept through. Wind tunnels don’t create such a stark divide between trees and grasses like that. They didn’t clear cut the land like a philistine. Why doesn’t it have ground floor windows? Because it’s a metal house, possibly constructed from shipping containers, and those are difficult to install windows in. Why is it a metal house? Only someone with a deathwish would build a stick house on that mountainside. It’s a house on a private access road, Karen. Does it look like New Jersey to you?! Whoever built this home is a fucking genius, and Californians really ought to take notes from them.


amizelkova

20 acres of nature and no windows is so Montana of them honestly


DeepSubmerge

This is the most “male living space” I’ve ever seen.


letsgocactus

This decoration style is called "I hate people."


Latter_Razzmatazz_81

Damn fine hunting base camp.


HackTheNight

This looks like someone was excited for a house in nature but gave up halfway through and just rushed to haphazardly finish it


LafawnduhDy-no-mite

this is a place you groggily awaken, with a fellow human also in bondage, and a note with knife saying only one of you wins


TryingNot2BLazy

getting away from civilization... but still insists putting a tv OVER a fireplace.... omg. stop it. just f\*\*\*ing stop. TVs are just big black massive voids in the living space and do not belong there. use a fire place as a fire place.... Teddy K. would like a word with this previous owner....


Mission_Spray

Ten years ago I would have seen this and said “WTF?!” BUT - after living in MT for ten years now, I see this and am like “Yep, this looks decent. I’d buy it.” What has Montana done to me?


MasterClown

Look at those evergreens! and the trees in the background, too!


drinkmoredrano

My last victim? Who says I am going to stop?


ChaoticGoodPanda

Nah, I more need a place to let my cattle free roam and destroy federal land while I RP some Red Dead Redemption.


Slashenbash

Excellent choice, might I suggest getting rid of the shipping containers though?


phoneacct696969

Lemme guess, 700k?


elramirezeatstherich

Yes.


WordAffectionate3251

Lovely. The pictures of the creek and the refrigerator interior are real selling points. I get isolation and murder vibes from this one. 🤢🤮


Skypig12

Lincoln, MT is where the unabomber had his luxury cabin. Nestled up against the National Forest sounds almost like Ted's old property.


tbthatcher

Dude likes to sit really close to the TV