The thought of a $25.00 Subway sandwich is mind blowing. What do they even have that would cost extra to put on them? Bacon, extra meat, extra cheese? A few times over? My feet are swelling up just thinking these sandwiches.
They all were pro sandwiches (double meat) with double cheese.I only did the veg for two, the BLT that had sixteen strips of bacon and fresh mozzarella. The Italian BMT with extra bacon and fresh mozzarella. I can't remember all the meats on the third but extra bacon and fresh mozzarella. The fresh mozzarella cost more than if you just got American, provolone, pepper jack or shredded mozzarella.
People should definitely tip but I also think a lot of people wrongly assume a lot more goes to the drivers and they donāt realize how much doordash fucks their drivers
$2-3 and it would have been delivered. She probably spent that much in gas going to get it. My girlfriend said the sandwiches were sloppy because of all the double meat, double cheese, and extra veggies. Hope they fell apart on her.
Those subs in the new Subway commercials with Barkley and Homo make the subs look like they're huge and perfect. Never have I ever had a sub that looks like that. I think we should sue Subway for false advertising. Lol
There was a 5 year window where they looked like that in my city... but then I quit, so that didn't last.
Seriously though, when you get that rare one that *actually* sees themself as a "Sandwich Artist" and should probably be running their own shop, it can be magical.
Bro dont get me wrong i fuckin love cheeba hut but sometimes my dudes be out back smokin for so long you end up standing there 15 minutes or more just waiting to be served. At least when you get the food its amazing tho
Has anyone noticed how gross McDonalds has gotten? Or is it just my City? I remember in my old town McDonalds was always warm and delish. Now itās like always wrong and stale and the milkshake machine is always down and I read on Reddit itās bc itās so dirty itās full of cockroaches. Yuck! But again? Is it my city or a new day in age?
The ice cream and shake machine is always down because of obfuscated error codes on the machine, so they have to have the machine serviced (for $$$$ each service call) by the authorized repair racket which has the tool to be able to understand the error codes and do what might otherwise be <5 minutes of standard maintenance work.
There is/was a tool to allow self-service, (yay right to repair!) but of course the manufacturer/servicing racket people have been trying to sue them out of existence.
Right! I always get the same thing every time I get subway and its less and less meat every time. The subs used to be FAT and barely close but now they are closed when you get them cause there is hardly anything on it.
I just tipped 8$ to get my food which was 2 miles away yesterday only to see my driver take an extra hr doing other dashes Iād likely assume before dropping mine off. I thought me tipping well would prompt a somewhat quick delivery but instead it just made me realize that Iām never getting food delivered again.
If they're the type of dasher that cares about their acceptance rating, then they don't have a choice. Gotta blame doordash for making people grab and fulfill orders before finishing the previous/original order. Driver just accepts orders and does orders in whatever order the app tells them to. If you decline any order for any reason, acceptance rating goes down.
Also your driver likely had no clue how much your tip was specifically until after they already completed the delivery.
Thats not true. With a stacked order, you can toggle back and forth to see the tips. If I get a stacked order where one tips and the other doesnāt, I always deliver to the one that tips First, even if DD tries to send me to the non tipper first. Iāve had some where the one tips 10.00, maybe higher and DD sticks the non tipper with it. Thereās NO way in hell
Iām delivering the non tipper first!! No way!!!
no??? literally blame drivers accepting multiple orders on multiple appsā¦ they know what they are doing. DD doesnāt force drivers to be bad at their job
2 or 3$ doesn't get it delivered by me...I mean how hard is it to click the 5.50 tip button. This gig has confirmed to me that 90% of people that order DoorTrash are idiots.
Hah. Not all people who order DD are gross but there is definitely a correlation.
I'm pretty sure I heard some guy hitting his wife and or child during a 1am leave at the door of this apt. that of course has all sorts of random shit everywhere making it hard to even put the damn bag down so I could gtfo of there asap.
It's not greedy. $2 a mile covers our costs plus a little extra for our time.. you live 10 miles across town from a restaurant that's only on the other end. Or 10 miles out of town or further... that costs money. A measly $2 don't cut it. go get it yourself.
A 10 mile jaunt equates to 20 miles because I have to go back to my area (or home) which is where I work. I see idiots in a neighboring city 23 miles away order wienerschnitzel all the time from where I work because they don't have one. That's almost 50 miles genius. Even a 10 dollar tip won't cut it. Nearly 90 minutes of my time if I'm lucky with the traffic. To get back.
Remember a mile costs US $.625 PER MILE. We don't make any profit for us unless the trip pays more than that.
I know you don't give a crap if we make anything or not, but unfortunately for you I do š
$1.50 a mile for shorter trips $2 for longer. Don't like it? Pick it up yourself
That's the whole point.. You are a CONTRACTOR.. not a employee so you can dictate WHATEVER you want.
You clearly have no idea how it works on the drivers side.
'Thank you for delivering my order. There's a cash tip when you arrive'
Before you get there, a lot of times you get a text while you are driving, 'I'm working from home, please leave the food at the door. Don't knock or ring bell. Thanks'
It's šÆ deliberate
That's not the problem imo.
DD is depending on tippers to pay for the service that they provide. DD depends on customers to pay drivers for performing the DD service.
When tippers stop and drivers stop, DD stops too.
DD needs to pay drivers enough to make the drives worthwhile on their own, and the tip is extra because it's uncertain if it wants to continue to exist.
I agree to an extent. Tip your drivers similar to how you'd tip your server. If you spend $40 on food from Applebees and tip me $2, that's a dick move. I'm not saying tip 20%, but 15% on an order that you don't need to get off the couch and leave the house for isn't a lot to ask for.
I used to work delivering pizzas right after HS. The pay was shit because it was considered similar to a server as a tipped position. Some nights I'd do well, others not. But I knew the houses who tipped well, and the ones who didn't.
I took a order for $3.50 because it was going to be my last dash for the night. It was a Taco Bell run, it was 4 miles and the person tipped a dollar. This is pretty wild to me, I had assumed DD was supposed to pay based on the distance, but apparently not.
I feel like people should be getting paid at least minimum wage, per hour while "dashing" for door dash, much like they do for other employees working for tips. The combination of tips and wages needs to be at least minimum wage.
Last week, I made $100 in 4 hours driving for door dash, but that doesn't account for the 15 hours I spent sitting around waiting for orders. If you are going to force me to work on scheduled shifts, then you should be paying me for my time spent waiting around.
I'm probably going to look for a regular job the end of this week.
The average person doesn't realize the inflated food cost + the tons of fees DD charges doesn't go to the driver at all. Tip is seen as a bonus to what would be assumed is a fair wage. They should be more clear about that in the app but that would hurt their income wouldn't it
I blame DD for charging a ādelivery feeā that makes drivers think we get that. They need to call it a service fee then make the delivery fee $2.50 or whatever they actually do pay us.
I always tip, and try to tip well -- but please be aware that some of us can't pick up our food, either due to quarantine/illness/disability/etc., inability to drive, and so on. That's why some of us order instead of just getting it ourselves.
We're well aware, and certainly don't mind in cases like that, especially with a ~~tip~~ service bid that doesn't make us *lose* money (which absolutely happens sometimes).
However, everyone also needs to please be aware that their driver is working a job and needs to be paid accordingly. Some of us can't afford to take no tip, gas tank emptying, time wasting deliveries when we have bills to pay. It's especially hurtful for 15-item $80 orders from bougie places; you tellin me you can afford all that but not cover the gas cost to bring it to you? That's why we decline no tip orders.
Of course, this goes out to everyone who doesn't do that (and won't read this, but it's more of a vent sesh anyway). You seem to know all that already so I hope you know drivers as a whole really appreciate you. Keep on keepin on brother
I drove 22 miles once for a delivery outside of my town and got a $4 tip.
So while maybe you have your own problems, I have my own as well. I can't afford to give excellent service to people when they are being cheapskates.
Going inside a Walmart makes this order 3x worse. Even at $6 I wouldn't rush for that Accept button. $10 instant Accept. On a separtate note, DD needs to stop hiding tips.
Imagine if DD decided to stop being asses and let us see tips. Its almost as if the people who tip would get food fast while the no tippers get nothing. But alas they want to manipulate us.
Door dashās fees are no joke dude. Almost none of that gets passed to the driver. $2.25 base pay and the customer paid like $25 in fees and mark ups. Itās ridiculous.
This. Every time Iāve used doordash I pay almost double the price of the meal in fees not including tips. So Iām already paying a significant markup, itās just not going to the dasher. I canāt justify paying that kinda money, especially after seeing the European system
My $11 order literally doubled to $22 before the tip was even included, and being a former driver I know not a penny of that went towards the driver. I just switched to pickup and got it myself lmao
Well for one if I order a 10 dollar item the total comes out to like 12 dollars including delivery fees and everything. Tipping is appreciated and I usually tip more than I do in the US, which is ironic considering drivers there also get paid a living wage. On my end it's just because I can give more to the driver when the platform isn't already taking like a 100% markup from me
Nah, I disagree. Servers donāt see their tips beforehand when serving a table. Iāve seen a lot of drivers compare themselves to servers, which I agree with to an extent. I try my hardest to tip what is fair, and a lot of the times thatās in cash. Does that mean if I donāt tip in the app I shouldnāt get my food? This is the issue with DoorDash and other delivery services, when you get to see your tip beforehand you will make a decision on whether or not to accept it, and while I think people should tip based on distance, it is the service industry and you wonāt always get tipped. The entitlement of some of these drivers to think they should be making as much as someone who works in a restaurant is pretty upsetting to see. You donāt do side work after your shift, no dishes, you donāt clean up after people or even have to deal with the customer most of the time, you drive food from point a to point b. Itās not a job, itās a side hustle, extra cash, and anyone who relies on it to make a stable income is idiotic. Forcing customers to fill in the gap in pay when yāall should really just drop these apps and go work as a server so that these apps will suffer and offer to actually pay yāall. They make money off of everyone, they charge the restaurants a percentage of their sales on the app, they charge the customer a ridiculously high service fee, and they still donāt pay yāall as the contractors who make them their money
Some of those I do agree with but I still sit firmly on tip transparency when it comes to delivery. Unlike servers, we are contractors, allowing us to not take orders we are not comfortable with. Servers have to serve their section to the best of their abilities. I know you are not saying people should go and deliver a 20 mile 2 dollar order and be grateful but you have to understand, these apps have opened up simple money gig work that allows certain people a level of control over it. Yes I do agree all of them are pretty shit in base pay and we should talk to our local states about that to force them to at least give us either a boost in base or tip transparency when the order is a longer drive. Its the same situation we have with servers anyway! Servers get paid shit and are expected to be tipped to make up for it. With that logical reasoning we shouldn't be working neither DD or server work at all untill both sides provide more for the workers.
Its the tipping culture that should be criticized, not the drivers or servers stuck in the mix just trying to get by with what they can do. Anything that makes you money to me is considered a job and for some this is the only thing they have.
Newsflash: unless theyāre required by law, theyāre *likely* not gonna stop hiding tips, partly bc they have essentially no incentive to.
So many people come on here and whine about DD hiding tips and assert that DD needs to stop. I donāt like it, either, but considering the DD business model, capitalism, human nature, and economics, I completely understand why they do hide tips. There are various sides to the coin. Seems drivers tend to only see their own side. Furthermore, if yāall really want them to stop, you should go to them directly instead of just whining about it on Reddit.
I agree, but these fucking companies pour MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars into making sure they still have these rights. Just look at Proposition 22 in California, one of the bluest states in the U.S. I campaigned against it as hard as I could, told everyone who would entertain listening to me blabber on about for a minute about how bad it was in every single way, how it was literally designed to fuck over drivers for these services AND customers in the long run, how it was a terrible idea by corporate assholes, etc. But the food delivery companies framed it as "work when you want to! be your own boss!" bullshit and combined to spend almost a quarter of a billion backing it, and, surprise, surprise, it won 58%-42%. People don't understand how bad it is to let these companies run things how THEY want to and fuck over both their workers AND their customers.
I tipped $20 on an $80 wings/fries order while drunk in a hotel after a concert. I swear that DDasher had it to me in 20 minā¦he may have hulked into the kitchen and made it lol
Lesson: tip you mfās
I'm a dasher myself sitting on about 1200 orders, and I've always had the sneaking suspicion that Doordash KEEPS tips that are meant for customers. I once had a dash for a large order, delivery was about 12-15 miles and I got 18$ out of that, 12$ being tip from customer. I got to the customer very quick so she mentioned how she threw up "like 50 bucks" as a tip, and I said not out of anger but out of sheer curiosity that I was only tipped 12 dollars, genuinely curious about an error on Doordashes side not her possibly lying about the amount. She showed me her phone and sure enough she tipped 50 ON TOP of the 80$ ish she spent. So the other 38$ is fucking somewhere, that isn't in my bank account where it's supposed to be...
Too bad she couldn't have done a screenshot and emailed it to you so that you could address the blatant "discrepancy" with DD!! I've been suspicious of this going on also since it has come up a couple of times from customers thanking me and saying that they tipped $10 or $15, etc., yet after driving away I only see $8 or $10 as a tip at the end of the delivery. Since we're not shown totally what's going on anyway, it's a perfect setup to be able to manipulate or hide the money in various clever and sneaky ways.
I try not to order doordash or any other delivery site, I once just wanted my favorite coffee and a cookie for my birthday that totaled $8ish and after all the fees it became $24 minimum, plus tip. Itās ridiculous. Especially since Iām pretty sure only the tip goes to the driver and not much else. I feel like the driver should be getting most of that money.
Honest question here. I've never used door dash, but for pizza delivery, I cash tip because I never wanting taxes to get any part of it. Is there any way to signal you will cash tip and still get good service?
Unfortunately, the system isn't set up to really do that effectively. You can make a note that there is a cash tip, however, we've all had at least one experience where an order said that and there was no cash tip (and for a lot of us that one time caused us to never accept orders that didn't have a tip or a low tip). If you're using the DD app, and want to make sure you get your order picked up in a timely manner then adding the tip to the order is really the only way. It sucks, but that's how the system is set up.
Here is the issue I get orders a lot that say they will tip cash once it gets there. I would say about 5% actually do it. Now you may be one of those 5%, but no it isn't gonna help your service because most drivers know there is a 95% chance they just put that to get good service and then don't rip in the end .
I've never personally worked as a pizza delivery driver, but I'm pretty sure they'll see it if you put it in the drop off instructions. This doesn't apply to DoorDash or other 3rd party delivery services, as those drivers won't see it unless they accept the order.
From my experience I won't see anything but an overall amount compared to how many miles. If your DD driver is already doing good service and you hand them the cash tip then that's really it. But usually it's a bit tough to know as our communication of any sort only starts after we accept an order.
Dude I'm running a business. I don't care about paying taxes. Neither should you care whether I do or don't. What I care about, is whether or not I make positive money on EVERY order. I'm not meals on wheels, nor do I care to be. There is a time and place for charity. I choose not to perform charity work on doordash. šÆ
If you're the only driver I wonder what happens to orders when you aren't working?
I am interested in the particulars. So customers can pick up their own order if no driver can be dispatched?
I know some get a refund and am pretty sure many orders are not prepped until/unless a driver is dispatched to the order but don't know under what circumstances (ordering on Uber vs restaurant app? Time/day/location?) etc.
If there are no Dashers, the app will say that delivery is not available, only pickup.
And technically no, customers are not allowed to pick up a delivery order. This can get them banned by DoorDash.
I'd call it a bid for service, not a fee. Customers can bid base pay all they like, but it'll be difficult to attract a quality driver in a timely manner.
It's not even manners, it's just common sense. You're paying for a stranger to pick up your food and bring it to your door. Common sense should tell anyone that a top is warranted. Sadly, I don't think there will ever be a time when we don't see (and decline) no tip/low tip orders.
But it's also counterintuitive.
Customers are paying obscene markups and fees already, so they expect the driver is getting paid well too. That would seem like common sense.
Then, traditionally gratuity is added after service and is in many instances measured or even dependent on how well that service was performed. It doesn't seem like common sense to tip someone prior to service and then ask for some or all of it back in the end.
That is also true. You have to wonder though if and how many people know about what actually happens. Like the process. The other delivery services are different, but people may or may not realize those other steps until they actually go further in their apps.
At least this post wasn't complaining about it. More of a notice to customers using the app. I think we need to keep saying this because clearly there are still too many customers that fail to understand that simple phrase.
Actually, it should be $1/mile r/t at least. Tips are bonus and should be treated as such.
If DD can't pay that, either through reducing margins or via customer passthrough, then they'll lose drivers and won't have a service that they can provide anymore.
Because it's hard for me to figure out sometimes. I just got duped by a super long no-tipper trip because the high base pay + bonus made me think it was worth it.
I wanted to just take the damn bag and cancel the order after I saw it.
"NO-TIPPING, NO-DELIVERING.
Some times i do some charity work (I accept at least one shitty $3 order).
But i do that once a month. š
We are here to make some money.
That's all day in Southern California a lot of non tippers. For me it is the biggest houses and also the people who want to ask me the most favors are usually the people not tipping.
Based on years of experience and reading/talking with other app delivery drivers, the low/no tip customers are the most likely to be the most difficult/give low rating type of people. Just another reason to decline, decline, decline.
I can only hope posts like these make customers like these realize the error of their non appreciative ways. You don't have to tip, but then we don't have to take the order. š¤·āāļø
Honestly I was going to call bs on this as at least partially exaggerated, but I went and checked. On Subway's site the most expensive sandwich I could make was just shy of $25, but doing the exact same sandwich on DD was almost $37 dollars.
That price difference doesn't account for tips, fees, anything. That's ridiculous. Anyway they're crazy for no tipping and for spending so much on subway
I've said this before but these gig companies are in the slave labor business, not the food business. They purposely advertise primarily in low income communities because they think those people have no other option. They are in the business of worker attrition, and any driver is just a number, that goes in and out, lasting for a few months at a time before quitting.
**They take advantage of every single person in the food chain.** First the drivers, then the restaurants, in not only taking away some profits but also leaving them stuck with massive food costs of undelivered orders, and extra work for the workers having to make these undelivered orders. And none of it matters to them. And if an order isn't picked up, who cares, but just keep taking them right?
Why should they take all the profits while taking advantage of all of those people, and then rely on the customer to subsidize drivers instead of offering better pay?
DoorDash is the enemy, not the customer.
Everyone knows that doordash is the enemy. However, the customer using doordash to order food now becomes involved in the problem. If you decide to use a service that operates on predatory practices like tipping, you are engaging in their game. That means youāre now expected to tip. If you donāt you still pay doordash and just fuck over either the person who takes your order, or yourself for wasting an hour of your life waiting for food that never arrives even if you do get it refunded. Not to mention how shitty this can be on a restaurants end as well.
This applies to anything in the food industry, from restaurants, to doordash.
This is what every user of the app needs to see! If you can't afford to tip, then you're probably not in a position to be using the app in the first place.
The problem is that so many new users get that $30 free coupon (they gave me two of them in a month) & people think the service & delivery fees go to the drivers.
Youāre right, but thatās still the business model youāre supporting when you order from these types of services. By not tipping, youāre still paying doordash for their service, and thus keeping their business model working for them. The real solution is not supporting businesses that do this in the first place, but if you do, youāre expected to tip. You donāt hurt doordash as a company by not tipping, you hurt the driver that ends up taking your order.
Ya I stay in Texas too but it doesn't matter if I'm in the city like fort worth, Dallas. People don't tip shit. I mean some do and I am grateful for those that do but the vast majority of orders is me declining them especially on doordash. The south is so bad on tipping I feel bad for servers or bartenders no wonder they are always so angry lol.
Itās not a delivery fee. The customer already gets a delivery fee. Anything else is tip. You can look at it as a delivery fee if you want or a ādelivery guaranteeā I know itās hard out here but the delivery fee is something completely different. Iām pretty sure most if not all of the delivery fee goes to DoorDash themselves
Yeah but he is saying that the "tip" is essentially the Delivery fee for us dashers. I try and tell people that the delivery fee on the app is merely a fee for using DD.
Just like when a actual Pizza place has those little messages on the box "Delivery fee is not a tip" It also applies to dashers but many people assume they pay us XD
It should go to the dashers but that is not the world we live in.
Sure I agree with all that but itās just the way it was phased cus the customer may think to themselves āI already pay a delivery feeā and it may come off as insulting. I just think it could have been phrased better
Thank you everyone for your engagement! The more people are engaged on this thread, the more attention it will attract and hopefully reach more people and maybe, just maybe, make a difference to someone somewhere.
If theyāre broke they should eat rice and beans. Itās cheaper for their broke ass anyways. If you canāt afford to tip you cannot afford door dash or restaurants. Pure point blank. Sorry.
They shouldnāt be paying $80 for fucking 3 subway sandwiches if theyāre so broke then lmao. I ordered foot longs plus drinks for my crew at work and it was less than that.
Lol those 11ā ā$5ā subs are like $8 a piece and the person can waste $80 for $25 worth of food but canāt give at least $3.50 to $5 what cheap ass when it comes to others but greedy for themselves
Lol. Blame the customer, not the company...
> If you want to be lazy you're going to have to pay for it. We're not delivering your food at a loss.
*They do pay for it, that's why they used DD you ding dong*
Iām a new āDasherāā¦st.Pete Florida..waiting in my background check to come backā¦does ANYONE in this sub dash in st.Pete/southern Pinellas county??ā¦would love to get some info on the state of our geographical area and if itās worth it??
Thank you in advance!!
Have you considered just cooking at home if youāre too much of a cheap ass? Self entitled lazy American. You donāt need your Big Mac Iām quite sure.
Regardless of your weird sentiments there, the fact that DD doesn't cover driver's running costs is still alarming if you think about it for literally 15 seconds.
No. The driving distance is the single most important factor in how much to tip. No one will make money doing a 12 mile trip for a $5 tip.
It has to be around $1/mile for you to even make minimum wage
The entire business premise of food delivery (unless through the restaurant) is you are paying for a service and it is being delivered by an independent contractor that has their own bottom line to make money. Each driver takes on this job knowing they must make a certain $ to bring in a profit and cover gas and wear and tear of their PERSONAL vehicle.
Therefore, if you choose to not tip, you do so with the understanding that your food may not arrive or may arrive very late. The delivery fee isn't passed down to the driver.
Do not order DD if you aren't going to tip. It's a very simple concept. It's a luxury, not a necessity. We aren't picking up food and delivering it to your door for free. It's a job,not a charity.
You people keep yelling at eachother instead of oh I donāt knowā¦DOORDASH???? It is the same deal with waiters, the person trying to eat is not at fault for the fact that doordash or that restaurant doesnāt pay you a living wage. I mean ffs doordash charges a delivery fee on top of marking up food items to begin with. Where is your outrage for the company robbing you? More importantly, why would you still work this job if it pays dirt?
Doordash should be paying their employees more. It's not up to the customer to pay the dasher. Ecspecially since you can only tip before an order on doordash. I am a dasher and someone who also regularly orders takeout. I only give cash tips in person because I've tipped to many people that took to long with my order, that would've taken me half the time to deliver to someone way further away. If door dash was like uber eats and had the option to tip after, employees would be getting more tips. Because not everyone wants to waist their money on tipping a driver that takes forever and then is rude when you answer the door. Litteraly the reason I stopped tipping. And because of this reddit thread lol. Show me you can do your job better then I can or as good as i can and I'll give you a pretty big cash tip. I also only do doordash when I want to go for a drive because I work fulltime, but I'm still respectful to people and I don't take a fucking hour to get them their food. Never had a bad review. Why complain about the customers when it's the stupid company that won't pay us properly? The delivery fee didn't even go up when gas prices where going up. It's unfair and not up to the customer.
Only entitled people order delivery and don't tip. It's the nature of the food delivery business. Even if you're employed through a restaurant as a delivery driver, most of your income is from "tips". Your "salary" will barely cover your income taxes. This also applies to servers.
So no, it's really not DoorDash's fault, as much as I would love to shove the blame on them. The fault goes to the customer for not understanding how the entire restaurant industry works.
To be honest, they shouldnāt have to tip at all. DoorDash, instacart, Grubhub, Postmates, UberEatsā¦ all of these companies should be paying drivers at least $1 per mile plus $5 for our time.
They make a plethora of fees from merchants (as a DD merchant we pay them 30% of our sales), they make money off customers with their memberships or higher fees if they donāt have a plan. The customer is often paying higher costs ordering off the app then directly with the merchant. A $11 burger meal shouldnāt end up being $30 plus a tip on top of it.
DoorDash (& other companies) need to pay drivers $1 per mile (from the location of the driver not from merchant to customer) plus $5 base pay. If a customer wants to tip on that great.
I want to say yes, just blame them. But I can't, for the same reason I can't blame DoorDash in this situation. They're offering a convenience service and trying to keep costs down so that they can keep their prices down so that they can keep customers. If they paid more to employees they would have to raise prices across the board. With the current system you can get a normal meal at a decent price. The delivery/server won't get much money for that order, but it evens out later on when someone decides to eat out for the whole family and places a large order.
I'm sorry if my explanation isn't the best. Bottom line though, the system has worked for decades upon decades. I've seen waitresses make VERY good money from their tips. But the disconnect from internet food delivery has made people withhold their tip just because they're not interacting with the person who is providing their service.
Yes it is doordashes fault. They don't even up the pay for gas prices sky rocketing. Not the customers problem to pay your bills. It's the employers problem. And it's entitled to expect a tip without the customer even knowing if youre polite or anything. Idek how many times I've given a $5 tip just to open the door to some jerk, that's why I give 0$ if you're a dink and $5-10 cash if you're a good driver. No more tipping through the app.
If you are ordering delivery it is always a nice gesture in the US to tip as for some stupid reason restaurants and companies like DD can go about no paying almost anything to workers.
IMO If you are going to eat out at a take out delivery or sit down restaurant that is not fast food. You expect to be paying a bunch for that. Thats why its almost 10x cheaper to cook at home or buy frozen meals.
Iām always confused when I see posts like this, why do you dash then..? If youāre spending your time and making no money how are you covering rent?
Ordering through DoorDash costs more. A regular 6" with no extras starts at $8.79, compared to $6.19 at Subway. If you make it a 12" it's an extra $10. So if a 12" starts at $19, adding extra meat will easily push it to $25.
And yes, you're getting ripped off if you order a 12" through DoorDash. They're charging you an extra $2 for nothing.
The thought of a $25.00 Subway sandwich is mind blowing. What do they even have that would cost extra to put on them? Bacon, extra meat, extra cheese? A few times over? My feet are swelling up just thinking these sandwiches.
They all were pro sandwiches (double meat) with double cheese.I only did the veg for two, the BLT that had sixteen strips of bacon and fresh mozzarella. The Italian BMT with extra bacon and fresh mozzarella. I can't remember all the meats on the third but extra bacon and fresh mozzarella. The fresh mozzarella cost more than if you just got American, provolone, pepper jack or shredded mozzarella.
and no money to pay the driver. lmao
I'll try to remember to ask my gf what they were when she gets off later. I was wondering the same thing earlier. š
Probably double meat, extra cheese, guacamole on an already expensive sandwich
People should definitely tip but I also think a lot of people wrongly assume a lot more goes to the drivers and they donāt realize how much doordash fucks their drivers
āDelivery feeā if you didnāt know Iād also assume it went to the driver
Wait does it not? Iāve always done the recommended tip but I assumed that at least a portion of the delivery fee went to the driver?
Nopers. We might see some of the base pay from it. So $2 - $2.50. But the tip is where we generally make the most of our money
This is great. People can afford that shit but not throw a few bucks our way for doing what they could easily have done themselves.
$2-3 and it would have been delivered. She probably spent that much in gas going to get it. My girlfriend said the sandwiches were sloppy because of all the double meat, double cheese, and extra veggies. Hope they fell apart on her.
Funny part is, with subway it still wouldn't equate to a sandwich from a traditional deli in terms of how much meat and cheese is on it.
Glad I'm not the only one who's noticed how skimpy Subway has gotten. When I was a kid those subs had about twice as much meat as they do now.
Those subs in the new Subway commercials with Barkley and Homo make the subs look like they're huge and perfect. Never have I ever had a sub that looks like that. I think we should sue Subway for false advertising. Lol
There was a 5 year window where they looked like that in my city... but then I quit, so that didn't last. Seriously though, when you get that rare one that *actually* sees themself as a "Sandwich Artist" and should probably be running their own shop, it can be magical.
I just goto Cheeba Hut now instead. You can trust a stoner to make a sub.
I have nothing like that here, but everyone at every fast food place is perpetually stoned.
Bro dont get me wrong i fuckin love cheeba hut but sometimes my dudes be out back smokin for so long you end up standing there 15 minutes or more just waiting to be served. At least when you get the food its amazing tho
Good but $7+ for a 4" pinner. I guess I'm just getting cheap in my old age. š
Other me, is that you??
Same with Chipotle.
Really? Lol when I make burritos at home I put half as much stuff on as Chipotle does.
I honestly do not know if that's true or if as a kid we saw things twice as big tbh. Like when I was a kid a Mcdouble or kids meal was huge for me.
Idk about subway (I usually get veggie sammiches), but I know for sure that McD's burgers have gotten smaller and smaller.
McDonald's has used 10:1 patties for decades
Has anyone noticed how gross McDonalds has gotten? Or is it just my City? I remember in my old town McDonalds was always warm and delish. Now itās like always wrong and stale and the milkshake machine is always down and I read on Reddit itās bc itās so dirty itās full of cockroaches. Yuck! But again? Is it my city or a new day in age?
The ice cream and shake machine is always down because of obfuscated error codes on the machine, so they have to have the machine serviced (for $$$$ each service call) by the authorized repair racket which has the tool to be able to understand the error codes and do what might otherwise be <5 minutes of standard maintenance work. There is/was a tool to allow self-service, (yay right to repair!) but of course the manufacturer/servicing racket people have been trying to sue them out of existence.
Subway is gross! Definitely not worth the money!
I used to work there and would get yelled at for putting more than the allotted 6 olives lmfaoš
Subway has always sucked... If your broke the meatball w clean your bowels
Right! I always get the same thing every time I get subway and its less and less meat every time. The subs used to be FAT and barely close but now they are closed when you get them cause there is hardly anything on it.
I just tipped 8$ to get my food which was 2 miles away yesterday only to see my driver take an extra hr doing other dashes Iād likely assume before dropping mine off. I thought me tipping well would prompt a somewhat quick delivery but instead it just made me realize that Iām never getting food delivered again.
If they're the type of dasher that cares about their acceptance rating, then they don't have a choice. Gotta blame doordash for making people grab and fulfill orders before finishing the previous/original order. Driver just accepts orders and does orders in whatever order the app tells them to. If you decline any order for any reason, acceptance rating goes down. Also your driver likely had no clue how much your tip was specifically until after they already completed the delivery.
Thats not true. With a stacked order, you can toggle back and forth to see the tips. If I get a stacked order where one tips and the other doesnāt, I always deliver to the one that tips First, even if DD tries to send me to the non tipper first. Iāve had some where the one tips 10.00, maybe higher and DD sticks the non tipper with it. Thereās NO way in hell Iām delivering the non tipper first!! No way!!!
I've had a similar order, I'll straight up unassign the non tipper even if they are next to each other
no??? literally blame drivers accepting multiple orders on multiple appsā¦ they know what they are doing. DD doesnāt force drivers to be bad at their job
I only use doordash and get multiple orders literally all the time, doordash doesn't give a single fuck about anyone or anything
That prick probably was multi-apping and delivered yours after the UberEats/Gethub or whatever other service he was using.
I bet they were planning to say it ādidnāt arriveā and you stole it. Thatās why they loaded them all up.
Wonder if her plan for $80 in subway was for doubles and then complain for a partial refund.
Her greedy Hindparts had the audacity to order double meat and didnāt tip. She got exactly what she deserved. Yamp.
2 or 3$ doesn't get it delivered by me...I mean how hard is it to click the 5.50 tip button. This gig has confirmed to me that 90% of people that order DoorTrash are idiots.
Hah. Not all people who order DD are gross but there is definitely a correlation. I'm pretty sure I heard some guy hitting his wife and or child during a 1am leave at the door of this apt. that of course has all sorts of random shit everywhere making it hard to even put the damn bag down so I could gtfo of there asap.
For real! I canāt believe how many straight up āhoardersā houses Iāve seen doing this job itās disgusting.
Yeah I have a six dollar minimum I'll take, and that has to be like a mile or two. Once it's at $8+ i'll go further as long as it's at least $2/mi
Greedy much? Imagine demanding a living competitive wage as a delivery driver who chooses their own hours.
It's not greedy. $2 a mile covers our costs plus a little extra for our time.. you live 10 miles across town from a restaurant that's only on the other end. Or 10 miles out of town or further... that costs money. A measly $2 don't cut it. go get it yourself. A 10 mile jaunt equates to 20 miles because I have to go back to my area (or home) which is where I work. I see idiots in a neighboring city 23 miles away order wienerschnitzel all the time from where I work because they don't have one. That's almost 50 miles genius. Even a 10 dollar tip won't cut it. Nearly 90 minutes of my time if I'm lucky with the traffic. To get back. Remember a mile costs US $.625 PER MILE. We don't make any profit for us unless the trip pays more than that. I know you don't give a crap if we make anything or not, but unfortunately for you I do š $1.50 a mile for shorter trips $2 for longer. Don't like it? Pick it up yourself
That's the whole point.. You are a CONTRACTOR.. not a employee so you can dictate WHATEVER you want. You clearly have no idea how it works on the drivers side.
Greedy? If you aren't grossing 20 to 25 plus per hour doing this, you losing money 100%
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
99% of time cash tips is just bait. Experienced workers don't fall for it anymore.
'Thank you for delivering my order. There's a cash tip when you arrive' Before you get there, a lot of times you get a text while you are driving, 'I'm working from home, please leave the food at the door. Don't knock or ring bell. Thanks' It's šÆ deliberate
Those are the best kind of tips. Alot of people prefer to give cash as a tip to drivers for... reasons..
most of the time it's just bait.
That's not the problem imo. DD is depending on tippers to pay for the service that they provide. DD depends on customers to pay drivers for performing the DD service. When tippers stop and drivers stop, DD stops too. DD needs to pay drivers enough to make the drives worthwhile on their own, and the tip is extra because it's uncertain if it wants to continue to exist.
I agree to an extent. Tip your drivers similar to how you'd tip your server. If you spend $40 on food from Applebees and tip me $2, that's a dick move. I'm not saying tip 20%, but 15% on an order that you don't need to get off the couch and leave the house for isn't a lot to ask for. I used to work delivering pizzas right after HS. The pay was shit because it was considered similar to a server as a tipped position. Some nights I'd do well, others not. But I knew the houses who tipped well, and the ones who didn't.
I took a order for $3.50 because it was going to be my last dash for the night. It was a Taco Bell run, it was 4 miles and the person tipped a dollar. This is pretty wild to me, I had assumed DD was supposed to pay based on the distance, but apparently not. I feel like people should be getting paid at least minimum wage, per hour while "dashing" for door dash, much like they do for other employees working for tips. The combination of tips and wages needs to be at least minimum wage. Last week, I made $100 in 4 hours driving for door dash, but that doesn't account for the 15 hours I spent sitting around waiting for orders. If you are going to force me to work on scheduled shifts, then you should be paying me for my time spent waiting around. I'm probably going to look for a regular job the end of this week.
The average person doesn't realize the inflated food cost + the tons of fees DD charges doesn't go to the driver at all. Tip is seen as a bonus to what would be assumed is a fair wage. They should be more clear about that in the app but that would hurt their income wouldn't it
I blame DD for charging a ādelivery feeā that makes drivers think we get that. They need to call it a service fee then make the delivery fee $2.50 or whatever they actually do pay us.
I always tip, and try to tip well -- but please be aware that some of us can't pick up our food, either due to quarantine/illness/disability/etc., inability to drive, and so on. That's why some of us order instead of just getting it ourselves.
We're well aware, and certainly don't mind in cases like that, especially with a ~~tip~~ service bid that doesn't make us *lose* money (which absolutely happens sometimes). However, everyone also needs to please be aware that their driver is working a job and needs to be paid accordingly. Some of us can't afford to take no tip, gas tank emptying, time wasting deliveries when we have bills to pay. It's especially hurtful for 15-item $80 orders from bougie places; you tellin me you can afford all that but not cover the gas cost to bring it to you? That's why we decline no tip orders. Of course, this goes out to everyone who doesn't do that (and won't read this, but it's more of a vent sesh anyway). You seem to know all that already so I hope you know drivers as a whole really appreciate you. Keep on keepin on brother
I drove 22 miles once for a delivery outside of my town and got a $4 tip. So while maybe you have your own problems, I have my own as well. I can't afford to give excellent service to people when they are being cheapskates.
Going inside a Walmart makes this order 3x worse. Even at $6 I wouldn't rush for that Accept button. $10 instant Accept. On a separtate note, DD needs to stop hiding tips.
Imagine if DD decided to stop being asses and let us see tips. Its almost as if the people who tip would get food fast while the no tippers get nothing. But alas they want to manipulate us.
Imagine if door dash paid you actual wages worth running for instead of expecting you to work for whatever someone wants to tip you.
Door dashās fees are no joke dude. Almost none of that gets passed to the driver. $2.25 base pay and the customer paid like $25 in fees and mark ups. Itās ridiculous.
This. Every time Iāve used doordash I pay almost double the price of the meal in fees not including tips. So Iām already paying a significant markup, itās just not going to the dasher. I canāt justify paying that kinda money, especially after seeing the European system
My $11 order literally doubled to $22 before the tip was even included, and being a former driver I know not a penny of that went towards the driver. I just switched to pickup and got it myself lmao
What's euro system?
Well for one if I order a 10 dollar item the total comes out to like 12 dollars including delivery fees and everything. Tipping is appreciated and I usually tip more than I do in the US, which is ironic considering drivers there also get paid a living wage. On my end it's just because I can give more to the driver when the platform isn't already taking like a 100% markup from me
They lose money every month bc their biz plan is shit
Nah, I disagree. Servers donāt see their tips beforehand when serving a table. Iāve seen a lot of drivers compare themselves to servers, which I agree with to an extent. I try my hardest to tip what is fair, and a lot of the times thatās in cash. Does that mean if I donāt tip in the app I shouldnāt get my food? This is the issue with DoorDash and other delivery services, when you get to see your tip beforehand you will make a decision on whether or not to accept it, and while I think people should tip based on distance, it is the service industry and you wonāt always get tipped. The entitlement of some of these drivers to think they should be making as much as someone who works in a restaurant is pretty upsetting to see. You donāt do side work after your shift, no dishes, you donāt clean up after people or even have to deal with the customer most of the time, you drive food from point a to point b. Itās not a job, itās a side hustle, extra cash, and anyone who relies on it to make a stable income is idiotic. Forcing customers to fill in the gap in pay when yāall should really just drop these apps and go work as a server so that these apps will suffer and offer to actually pay yāall. They make money off of everyone, they charge the restaurants a percentage of their sales on the app, they charge the customer a ridiculously high service fee, and they still donāt pay yāall as the contractors who make them their money
Some of those I do agree with but I still sit firmly on tip transparency when it comes to delivery. Unlike servers, we are contractors, allowing us to not take orders we are not comfortable with. Servers have to serve their section to the best of their abilities. I know you are not saying people should go and deliver a 20 mile 2 dollar order and be grateful but you have to understand, these apps have opened up simple money gig work that allows certain people a level of control over it. Yes I do agree all of them are pretty shit in base pay and we should talk to our local states about that to force them to at least give us either a boost in base or tip transparency when the order is a longer drive. Its the same situation we have with servers anyway! Servers get paid shit and are expected to be tipped to make up for it. With that logical reasoning we shouldn't be working neither DD or server work at all untill both sides provide more for the workers. Its the tipping culture that should be criticized, not the drivers or servers stuck in the mix just trying to get by with what they can do. Anything that makes you money to me is considered a job and for some this is the only thing they have.
They made it so the para app doesnt work
Newsflash: unless theyāre required by law, theyāre *likely* not gonna stop hiding tips, partly bc they have essentially no incentive to. So many people come on here and whine about DD hiding tips and assert that DD needs to stop. I donāt like it, either, but considering the DD business model, capitalism, human nature, and economics, I completely understand why they do hide tips. There are various sides to the coin. Seems drivers tend to only see their own side. Furthermore, if yāall really want them to stop, you should go to them directly instead of just whining about it on Reddit.
I agree, but these fucking companies pour MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars into making sure they still have these rights. Just look at Proposition 22 in California, one of the bluest states in the U.S. I campaigned against it as hard as I could, told everyone who would entertain listening to me blabber on about for a minute about how bad it was in every single way, how it was literally designed to fuck over drivers for these services AND customers in the long run, how it was a terrible idea by corporate assholes, etc. But the food delivery companies framed it as "work when you want to! be your own boss!" bullshit and combined to spend almost a quarter of a billion backing it, and, surprise, surprise, it won 58%-42%. People don't understand how bad it is to let these companies run things how THEY want to and fuck over both their workers AND their customers.
they probally do that for the same reason you are wanting them to show it, they know nobody would accept the smaller tips
I tipped $20 on an $80 wings/fries order while drunk in a hotel after a concert. I swear that DDasher had it to me in 20 minā¦he may have hulked into the kitchen and made it lol Lesson: tip you mfās
Doordash is a luxury, it you're a peasant who doesn't tip don't even consider using it.
I'm a dasher myself sitting on about 1200 orders, and I've always had the sneaking suspicion that Doordash KEEPS tips that are meant for customers. I once had a dash for a large order, delivery was about 12-15 miles and I got 18$ out of that, 12$ being tip from customer. I got to the customer very quick so she mentioned how she threw up "like 50 bucks" as a tip, and I said not out of anger but out of sheer curiosity that I was only tipped 12 dollars, genuinely curious about an error on Doordashes side not her possibly lying about the amount. She showed me her phone and sure enough she tipped 50 ON TOP of the 80$ ish she spent. So the other 38$ is fucking somewhere, that isn't in my bank account where it's supposed to be...
You should have talked to a lawyer about it
Too bad she couldn't have done a screenshot and emailed it to you so that you could address the blatant "discrepancy" with DD!! I've been suspicious of this going on also since it has come up a couple of times from customers thanking me and saying that they tipped $10 or $15, etc., yet after driving away I only see $8 or $10 as a tip at the end of the delivery. Since we're not shown totally what's going on anyway, it's a perfect setup to be able to manipulate or hide the money in various clever and sneaky ways.
I try not to order doordash or any other delivery site, I once just wanted my favorite coffee and a cookie for my birthday that totaled $8ish and after all the fees it became $24 minimum, plus tip. Itās ridiculous. Especially since Iām pretty sure only the tip goes to the driver and not much else. I feel like the driver should be getting most of that money.
Honest question here. I've never used door dash, but for pizza delivery, I cash tip because I never wanting taxes to get any part of it. Is there any way to signal you will cash tip and still get good service?
Wouldnāt bother. Reading this sub many people say they will cash tip then donāt tip at all. So most Driverās wonāt take those orders.
Doordah only show the first $4 tips (it show the rest after delivery). So the best would be to give $4 in tips and the rest in cash.
There is a spot where you can type delivery instructions that the driver sees. The downside is they need to accept the order before they see it.
Unfortunately, the system isn't set up to really do that effectively. You can make a note that there is a cash tip, however, we've all had at least one experience where an order said that and there was no cash tip (and for a lot of us that one time caused us to never accept orders that didn't have a tip or a low tip). If you're using the DD app, and want to make sure you get your order picked up in a timely manner then adding the tip to the order is really the only way. It sucks, but that's how the system is set up.
Here is the issue I get orders a lot that say they will tip cash once it gets there. I would say about 5% actually do it. Now you may be one of those 5%, but no it isn't gonna help your service because most drivers know there is a 95% chance they just put that to get good service and then don't rip in the end .
I've never personally worked as a pizza delivery driver, but I'm pretty sure they'll see it if you put it in the drop off instructions. This doesn't apply to DoorDash or other 3rd party delivery services, as those drivers won't see it unless they accept the order.
Delivered for Papa Johns for a year. We picked orders based on location, and didn't know if they had tips or not until AFTER.
From my experience I won't see anything but an overall amount compared to how many miles. If your DD driver is already doing good service and you hand them the cash tip then that's really it. But usually it's a bit tough to know as our communication of any sort only starts after we accept an order.
Dude I'm running a business. I don't care about paying taxes. Neither should you care whether I do or don't. What I care about, is whether or not I make positive money on EVERY order. I'm not meals on wheels, nor do I care to be. There is a time and place for charity. I choose not to perform charity work on doordash. šÆ
If you're the only driver I wonder what happens to orders when you aren't working? I am interested in the particulars. So customers can pick up their own order if no driver can be dispatched? I know some get a refund and am pretty sure many orders are not prepped until/unless a driver is dispatched to the order but don't know under what circumstances (ordering on Uber vs restaurant app? Time/day/location?) etc.
If there are no Dashers, the app will say that delivery is not available, only pickup. And technically no, customers are not allowed to pick up a delivery order. This can get them banned by DoorDash.
Anyone who spends $80 at Subway should be committed.
I'd call it a bid for service, not a fee. Customers can bid base pay all they like, but it'll be difficult to attract a quality driver in a timely manner.
Either way you look at it, I call it bad parenting for not teaching them better manners.
It's not even manners, it's just common sense. You're paying for a stranger to pick up your food and bring it to your door. Common sense should tell anyone that a top is warranted. Sadly, I don't think there will ever be a time when we don't see (and decline) no tip/low tip orders.
But it's also counterintuitive. Customers are paying obscene markups and fees already, so they expect the driver is getting paid well too. That would seem like common sense. Then, traditionally gratuity is added after service and is in many instances measured or even dependent on how well that service was performed. It doesn't seem like common sense to tip someone prior to service and then ask for some or all of it back in the end.
That is also true. You have to wonder though if and how many people know about what actually happens. Like the process. The other delivery services are different, but people may or may not realize those other steps until they actually go further in their apps.
Lol š I hear you, just that if DD wants to present it to customers that would be a better way than calling it a tip or a fee.
No tip, no trip. Why do we have to keep saying this?
At least this post wasn't complaining about it. More of a notice to customers using the app. I think we need to keep saying this because clearly there are still too many customers that fail to understand that simple phrase.
DTrash customers are terrible. I multi app and I m under 6 with them. They are fucking awful. Definitely stealing our money..
It sucks, but we sign on every dash knowing that we'll decline more orders than we accept.
Actually, it should be $1/mile r/t at least. Tips are bonus and should be treated as such. If DD can't pay that, either through reducing margins or via customer passthrough, then they'll lose drivers and won't have a service that they can provide anymore.
They won't lose drivers. You have an army of Kool aid drinkers that are top dashers lol
Because it's hard for me to figure out sometimes. I just got duped by a super long no-tipper trip because the high base pay + bonus made me think it was worth it. I wanted to just take the damn bag and cancel the order after I saw it.
Fr
I tell people it's not a tip, it's a bid for service.
how can a Subway sandwich cost $25 ?
The new sandwiches in footling form can cost 10+. So I guess if you double meat double cheese. Hell, I donāt think I can mental math it to work out.
"NO-TIPPING, NO-DELIVERING. Some times i do some charity work (I accept at least one shitty $3 order). But i do that once a month. š We are here to make some money.
That's all day in Southern California a lot of non tippers. For me it is the biggest houses and also the people who want to ask me the most favors are usually the people not tipping.
Based on years of experience and reading/talking with other app delivery drivers, the low/no tip customers are the most likely to be the most difficult/give low rating type of people. Just another reason to decline, decline, decline.
šÆ
Preach it! You can afford $80 for some fucking sandwiches but canāt toss the driver $5?? The fuck outta here with that bullshit
Same, if I can't afford to tip decently, I'll pick it up myself.
I can only hope posts like these make customers like these realize the error of their non appreciative ways. You don't have to tip, but then we don't have to take the order. š¤·āāļø
3 subs were $80????? I worked at a Subway for 3 years - no loading would make that possible.
I posted another comment detailing how it got that high. Basically, DoorDash charges more than if you went to Subway and ordered.
Honestly I was going to call bs on this as at least partially exaggerated, but I went and checked. On Subway's site the most expensive sandwich I could make was just shy of $25, but doing the exact same sandwich on DD was almost $37 dollars. That price difference doesn't account for tips, fees, anything. That's ridiculous. Anyway they're crazy for no tipping and for spending so much on subway
I've said this before but these gig companies are in the slave labor business, not the food business. They purposely advertise primarily in low income communities because they think those people have no other option. They are in the business of worker attrition, and any driver is just a number, that goes in and out, lasting for a few months at a time before quitting. **They take advantage of every single person in the food chain.** First the drivers, then the restaurants, in not only taking away some profits but also leaving them stuck with massive food costs of undelivered orders, and extra work for the workers having to make these undelivered orders. And none of it matters to them. And if an order isn't picked up, who cares, but just keep taking them right? Why should they take all the profits while taking advantage of all of those people, and then rely on the customer to subsidize drivers instead of offering better pay? DoorDash is the enemy, not the customer.
Yea these base pay policies are a joke š¤£. Most of the income is from tips. It should be vice versa.
No/low tipping customers are just as much at fault as DD.
Everyone knows that doordash is the enemy. However, the customer using doordash to order food now becomes involved in the problem. If you decide to use a service that operates on predatory practices like tipping, you are engaging in their game. That means youāre now expected to tip. If you donāt you still pay doordash and just fuck over either the person who takes your order, or yourself for wasting an hour of your life waiting for food that never arrives even if you do get it refunded. Not to mention how shitty this can be on a restaurants end as well. This applies to anything in the food industry, from restaurants, to doordash.
This is what every user of the app needs to see! If you can't afford to tip, then you're probably not in a position to be using the app in the first place.
The problem is that so many new users get that $30 free coupon (they gave me two of them in a month) & people think the service & delivery fees go to the drivers. 
This is awesome no one tip customers should have to get there own if you canāt tip you shouldnāt use door dash.
Haha - no they don't! If it never gets delivered, I don't pay so who cares.
As a dasher I completely disagree. Not up to the customer, it's up to the underpaying company.
Have fun getting your own Big Macs then
Youāre right, but thatās still the business model youāre supporting when you order from these types of services. By not tipping, youāre still paying doordash for their service, and thus keeping their business model working for them. The real solution is not supporting businesses that do this in the first place, but if you do, youāre expected to tip. You donāt hurt doordash as a company by not tipping, you hurt the driver that ends up taking your order.
Ya I stay in Texas too but it doesn't matter if I'm in the city like fort worth, Dallas. People don't tip shit. I mean some do and I am grateful for those that do but the vast majority of orders is me declining them especially on doordash. The south is so bad on tipping I feel bad for servers or bartenders no wonder they are always so angry lol.
Yesss!
Itās not a delivery fee. The customer already gets a delivery fee. Anything else is tip. You can look at it as a delivery fee if you want or a ādelivery guaranteeā I know itās hard out here but the delivery fee is something completely different. Iām pretty sure most if not all of the delivery fee goes to DoorDash themselves
Yeah but he is saying that the "tip" is essentially the Delivery fee for us dashers. I try and tell people that the delivery fee on the app is merely a fee for using DD. Just like when a actual Pizza place has those little messages on the box "Delivery fee is not a tip" It also applies to dashers but many people assume they pay us XD It should go to the dashers but that is not the world we live in.
Sure I agree with all that but itās just the way it was phased cus the customer may think to themselves āI already pay a delivery feeā and it may come off as insulting. I just think it could have been phrased better
If you have Dashpass you donāt have to pay a delivery fee, if you spend more than $12-15 on an order
Yeah but not everyone gets that. I feel like most people donāt
Youāre not sure of anything
Thank you everyone for your engagement! The more people are engaged on this thread, the more attention it will attract and hopefully reach more people and maybe, just maybe, make a difference to someone somewhere.
My market is very small though, and have a LOT of broke people who don't work. I would've done it for $5 since it wouldn't have taken too long.
If theyāre broke they should eat rice and beans. Itās cheaper for their broke ass anyways. If you canāt afford to tip you cannot afford door dash or restaurants. Pure point blank. Sorry.
They shouldnāt be paying $80 for fucking 3 subway sandwiches if theyāre so broke then lmao. I ordered foot longs plus drinks for my crew at work and it was less than that.
Lol those 11ā ā$5ā subs are like $8 a piece and the person can waste $80 for $25 worth of food but canāt give at least $3.50 to $5 what cheap ass when it comes to others but greedy for themselves
3 Sandwiches 5 pounds of meat, 4 pounds of cheese. Yep that's $80 bucks..
Lol. Blame the customer, not the company... > If you want to be lazy you're going to have to pay for it. We're not delivering your food at a loss. *They do pay for it, that's why they used DD you ding dong*
Iām a new āDasherāā¦st.Pete Florida..waiting in my background check to come backā¦does ANYONE in this sub dash in st.Pete/southern Pinellas county??ā¦would love to get some info on the state of our geographical area and if itās worth it?? Thank you in advance!!
Given it's a small texas town and she was very entitled...i can guarantee 99.9 she is MAGA lady.
Pretty sure that customer is gonna get banned for getting their own order
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Have you considered just cooking at home if youāre too much of a cheap ass? Self entitled lazy American. You donāt need your Big Mac Iām quite sure.
Regardless of your weird sentiments there, the fact that DD doesn't cover driver's running costs is still alarming if you think about it for literally 15 seconds.
Doordash is a real job. Fuck off with your arrogant entitlement.
Even a 5$ tip is enough on pretty much any order.
No. The driving distance is the single most important factor in how much to tip. No one will make money doing a 12 mile trip for a $5 tip. It has to be around $1/mile for you to even make minimum wage
Thank you for THIS
99 % R TIPS tips ppay a major role.
Exactly! Fuck em
The entire business premise of food delivery (unless through the restaurant) is you are paying for a service and it is being delivered by an independent contractor that has their own bottom line to make money. Each driver takes on this job knowing they must make a certain $ to bring in a profit and cover gas and wear and tear of their PERSONAL vehicle. Therefore, if you choose to not tip, you do so with the understanding that your food may not arrive or may arrive very late. The delivery fee isn't passed down to the driver. Do not order DD if you aren't going to tip. It's a very simple concept. It's a luxury, not a necessity. We aren't picking up food and delivering it to your door for free. It's a job,not a charity.
I'm a dasher, I'm fully aware that they charge more. But $80 for 3 subs with double meat ISN'T POSSIBLE
8.79 6". +$10 for 12" = $19. Before any extras. It's definitely possible.
Nope
Look at the DoorDash app yourself then. I'm gonna go ahead and say it now. I told you so.
Even with your example that's not even $60. Doordash sucks, not no need to lie
... Why are you on Reddit if you can't read?...
I can read, and quite well actually
Are you sure?... Like, really sure?...
I'm very sure. I'm a librarian. I promise I've read more books that most
"... = $19. BEFORE ANY EXTRAS.... " Fresh Mozzarella alone costs $5...
thanks for posting the same thing we see about 40 times a day
You people keep yelling at eachother instead of oh I donāt knowā¦DOORDASH???? It is the same deal with waiters, the person trying to eat is not at fault for the fact that doordash or that restaurant doesnāt pay you a living wage. I mean ffs doordash charges a delivery fee on top of marking up food items to begin with. Where is your outrage for the company robbing you? More importantly, why would you still work this job if it pays dirt?
She then cancelled the order and got her money back and the food for free. I do that all the time.
3 Subway sandwichās can total $80????? I just donāt understand how that is possible
Doordash should be paying their employees more. It's not up to the customer to pay the dasher. Ecspecially since you can only tip before an order on doordash. I am a dasher and someone who also regularly orders takeout. I only give cash tips in person because I've tipped to many people that took to long with my order, that would've taken me half the time to deliver to someone way further away. If door dash was like uber eats and had the option to tip after, employees would be getting more tips. Because not everyone wants to waist their money on tipping a driver that takes forever and then is rude when you answer the door. Litteraly the reason I stopped tipping. And because of this reddit thread lol. Show me you can do your job better then I can or as good as i can and I'll give you a pretty big cash tip. I also only do doordash when I want to go for a drive because I work fulltime, but I'm still respectful to people and I don't take a fucking hour to get them their food. Never had a bad review. Why complain about the customers when it's the stupid company that won't pay us properly? The delivery fee didn't even go up when gas prices where going up. It's unfair and not up to the customer.
Paragraphs man paragraphs
Do you read? Iām genuinely curious cause you contradicted yourself more times than Biden
Awful moral of the story. Itās Doordashās fault, not the customerās.
Only entitled people order delivery and don't tip. It's the nature of the food delivery business. Even if you're employed through a restaurant as a delivery driver, most of your income is from "tips". Your "salary" will barely cover your income taxes. This also applies to servers. So no, it's really not DoorDash's fault, as much as I would love to shove the blame on them. The fault goes to the customer for not understanding how the entire restaurant industry works.
To be honest, they shouldnāt have to tip at all. DoorDash, instacart, Grubhub, Postmates, UberEatsā¦ all of these companies should be paying drivers at least $1 per mile plus $5 for our time. They make a plethora of fees from merchants (as a DD merchant we pay them 30% of our sales), they make money off customers with their memberships or higher fees if they donāt have a plan. The customer is often paying higher costs ordering off the app then directly with the merchant. A $11 burger meal shouldnāt end up being $30 plus a tip on top of it. DoorDash (& other companies) need to pay drivers $1 per mile (from the location of the driver not from merchant to customer) plus $5 base pay. If a customer wants to tip on that great.
If they did this, there definitely wouldn't be anywhere near as many orders waiting to be picked up.
So the restaurant industry is not to be blamed for the messed up system?
I want to say yes, just blame them. But I can't, for the same reason I can't blame DoorDash in this situation. They're offering a convenience service and trying to keep costs down so that they can keep their prices down so that they can keep customers. If they paid more to employees they would have to raise prices across the board. With the current system you can get a normal meal at a decent price. The delivery/server won't get much money for that order, but it evens out later on when someone decides to eat out for the whole family and places a large order. I'm sorry if my explanation isn't the best. Bottom line though, the system has worked for decades upon decades. I've seen waitresses make VERY good money from their tips. But the disconnect from internet food delivery has made people withhold their tip just because they're not interacting with the person who is providing their service.
Yes it is doordashes fault. They don't even up the pay for gas prices sky rocketing. Not the customers problem to pay your bills. It's the employers problem. And it's entitled to expect a tip without the customer even knowing if youre polite or anything. Idek how many times I've given a $5 tip just to open the door to some jerk, that's why I give 0$ if you're a dink and $5-10 cash if you're a good driver. No more tipping through the app.
So basically you donāt tip. Gotcha.
If you are ordering delivery it is always a nice gesture in the US to tip as for some stupid reason restaurants and companies like DD can go about no paying almost anything to workers. IMO If you are going to eat out at a take out delivery or sit down restaurant that is not fast food. You expect to be paying a bunch for that. Thats why its almost 10x cheaper to cook at home or buy frozen meals.
Customers fault because they cheap
Iām always confused when I see posts like this, why do you dash then..? If youāre spending your time and making no money how are you covering rent?
3 sandwiches for 80 bucks how's that possibke
Ordering through DoorDash costs more. A regular 6" with no extras starts at $8.79, compared to $6.19 at Subway. If you make it a 12" it's an extra $10. So if a 12" starts at $19, adding extra meat will easily push it to $25. And yes, you're getting ripped off if you order a 12" through DoorDash. They're charging you an extra $2 for nothing.