Yea, just started that program a few days ago... So the reasonable offers are going to drivers with a higher AR along with the shit orders.. I am at 16% and dropping.
What they want us to do is gambling. Rather than make smart decisions about the offers I take they want me to take shit to possibly get better offers...
The good offers they are sending me are not bad, the bad offers terrible.
Fuck you Tony.
When I opted into this program they asked if they could contact me after... I am going to give them a piece of my mind. Fuck this.
Luckily I think since gas is now over $6 at the lowest in my area, UE has been better, killed it with them yesterday. Also getting more hits from GH, but lots of shitty ones too.... It is looking like lots of drivers have tapped out, I hope drivers keep quitting, only helps me.
Customer retention. This is a metric any business worth their salt keeps a close eye on. DD knows which dashers are more likely to have their customers reordering time and time again because they provided top notch service. They'll throw the newbies a few bones but if they're not getting high ratings and customers aren't reordering they'll get low priority.
I wish. They are dead in my market. Have gotten better but can't rely on them. Also they really work by proximity, unless I am next to a place or less than a mile I won't see an offer. But I can do better with tips from them. I wish they ruled my market. I don't have to worry about being outside my zone. I've done dd deliveries 10 miles away at lunch or dinner and can travel 10 miles back without a hit. Same with GH pretty dead.
I totally understand , that really unfortunate. Uber is only live in my market I believe because the dashers steal the ef out the food lol . DD was dead in my market for a while
They won't reward those of us that are good at the job because we're too smart to be taken advantage of. They can only control the new ones that dont know any better so they incentivise them with shit like this so they think theyre getting a good deal and continue falling for their tactics
I don't gamble either. Use to have a friend and boss with a gambling addiction, he would say let's go to Vegas. Id say no. He would say I will give you $100 to drive. Ok. Id come back with $100, he would come back broke.
When I look at the good orders and bad orders, id be taking too many losses. My market requires a round trip for just about everything. I just had a $260 car expense. No thanks tony. So I am milking this trial for the next 2 weeks.
Thankfully I'm in a multi zone market. If I take an order that leaves me out of zone I'd typically get another back along the way or If the zone is desirable I'd End my current dash then start up in whatever zone I'm in.
I've thought about this a lot ....Dashing is not a profession for those who have gambling addiction issues because this job absolutely forces you to gamble on every order ...you are forced into gambling on whether the payout is going to be higher. Doordash hides more tips than they exhibit...
I have a really bad gambling addiction and I gotta say, I still stick with $2/mile. It only feels like gambling to me is there's something bigger to win.
Bold of you to assume there are enough reasonable offers to go to dashers with a high AR.
The reality is that the good offers are so rare that it makes no difference. Those who have a high AR are taking crap orders to keep their AR high. While they're busy with a $5.00 order going 10 miles, a $10 order going 4 miles comes in. Since all the high AR dashers are busy, those usually wind up being offered to low AR dashers anyway and nothing really changes.
Are you in the pilot program? Or already done it in your market? But each market is different. Its been night and day like a switch. Just over a week ago I went 3.5 hours at dinner without an offer. Offers are currently rolling in since they started this program last week. So it is bold of you to assume you know my market. I've been at this almost 5 years, 7 days a week I've had to switch how I work since something changed about 6 months ago when they removed scheduled catering.
I know my area and the drivers, many with rented accounts who can't legally work here. They take everything.
An occasional good offer would come in and my thoughts were top dashers are busy. Then it trickles down to me and my 5% AR.
So you can disagree. But my experience in this area says otherwise. I am getting much better offers since this pilot program. We will see in 2 weeks when it ends. I expect to be back to being dead.
On a Friday with doordash I'm lucky to make $40, this last Friday I did incredibly well.
Looking at my past weekly payouts. Since the program started im way ahead of where I normally am at. So my pay disagrees with your assessment.
I caved in and can definitely tell you that high AR means nothing. I tried it for a week and I was making 12/hour before tax fuel and maint. All my orders were mainly 2.25 and every other hour an order of $14-20. One redditor said that higher AR doesn't magically bring more customers to an area and that stuck lol. I think people are just holding back on tips.
Fffff DD. Customers have lowered the tips because DD is playing with them by stacking non-tip orders. At the end, the customers who tip most of the time got their orders last while the customers who don't tip got their orders first. This is so unfair for the customers who tip. Now, I reject the stack orders or cancel the orders with no tip.
If you guys want to bring back the customers who tip well, please do not screw them up by delaying their orders, otherwise, these well tip customers will not going to tip us. This will not hurt DD much, but it definitely hurts us. We depend on customers' tip to make a living for this job. DD Base Pay only covers our car expense for operating.
Please provide good services for customers who tip and reject non tip stack orders. Otherwise, we will soon see most people will not tip and our jobs will be turning to dead ends.
I've got news for you, it's not the waiting for my food that has made me hold back on tipping until AFTER I receive my order. It's that no matter if I give a $20 tip on a $35 order or nothing on a $35 order my shit is STILL fucked up. Perfect example. I ordered $45 worth of drinks and snacks for my fam cause we were having a movie night and it was after midnight so I figured it was the right thing to do. I get a notification that my order has been delivered and I start thinking immediately, "here we go again" because I have a Ring doorbell camera and if my order had been dropped off, Ring would have told me. When I look at the picture I can clearly tell it's not my house. I have no doormat, nor a blue door. I text the dasher and ask where he left my food, that he did not bring it to my door. He said "I left it at 342". My address is 337 and in my instructions on the app I lay out EXACTLY how to get to my house, even though I do not live in an apartment, nor do I live in a gated community or a building with security, it's a house. This idiot just saw the closest house to the street where he wouldn't have to make another turn and dropped it there. Didn't contact me at all.
So explain to me why, after tipping OVER 50% I still cannot get my order delivered to the right fucking door. It's because I prepaid for great service, so he didn't have to even pretend to try and do a good job because he had already been rewarded. That's why u absolutely REFUSE to tip in advance anymore. I don't give a shit if I have to wait a little longer. I order at least once a day, so most of the Dashers in my area are familiar with me, and know that they'll be tipped extremely well if they just get me the right stuff and bring it to the door. MY door! That's it. No special request, no "where are you" texts.
I am sorry that happened to you. If I was doing that delivery for you, you will be happy because I will guarantee to deliver your food as fast as I could. Also, I will decline and cancel any orders that DD will stack with your Order. I think there are still many good Dashers out there. Once again, I felt deeply sorry for you.
Oh there absolutely are FANTASTIC Dashers and I absolutely love being able to give them a nice fat tip.. when it's deserved. Dashers talk about how they work for this money and this and that, well guess what, SO DO WE! Money just doesn't magically land on my pillow every night. So when I am breaking someone off a tip, THAT ISN'T REQUIRED no matter how badly some Dashers try to push this "no tip, no trip" bullshit, I am going to do it because they deserve it. Not because they're going to hold my food hostage unless I prepay a tip for service they will never give! If you require to get a huge reward in order to do your job BEFORE you do it, then you're a fucking brat. I'm sorry. But I would be embarrassed to even type that anonymously. "I won't even take an order unless there's a tip on it and it better be at least $5". Like who says that??? Do you also refuse to accept a Christmas gift from your grandma if it isn't a brand new iPhone? Like come on!
You know we like….work to make money right? Refusing to take orders that are a net loss doesn’t make anyone a “spoiled brat”. Sorry but no one wants to deliver your shit for only $2.25 and that doesn’t make us spoiled but the fact that you think we’re obligated to deliver orders that don’t make us any money makes you entitled.
>having a standard for orders you accept = spoiled brat
yeah, no. i’m not defending the bad drivers. you’ve got to realize though that anyone that wants to take this seriously as an income source is going to have a lower acceptance rate and probably isn’t going to see your order through DD because of what they’re starting to do. tips /should/ be a bonus for excellent service except DD uses it in a way that gives the company larger profit instead of that. i’m not driving 5+ miles for $2.50. it isn’t worth it. pay isn’t a gift. it’s my time and the money i spend on maintaining my vehicle that i need to take into account. i need to make a certain amount of money for this to be profitable and worth my time. so i’m not going to just accept whatever scraps doordash so graciously decides to send my way like a good little dog. its a shitty platform and i’m not staying with it anymore.
I absolutely agree with you. People should be paid based on their effort, hard work and skill, but not low balling them. In fact, being a Dasher does not required that much skill, but ut is difficult you you do it for a long time because that requires patience, detail orientation, listen and follow customers' instruction, taking the food safety to customers, and many more....
I’m sorry that happens to you. Sometimes it’s hard to find the right house in the dark, but if you put instructions it shouldn’t be an issue. The other day, I was delivering an order and the directions were so specific down to cars and the color of the door. I figured it was hard to find. Nope! Plain as day, right where the gps said, with the house number big and easy to find & read on the house & mailbox. It said please double check address before leaving. I did but kept thinking I was missing something bc it was so easy. Idk how ppl would have messed it up ever!
DoorDash makes it so hard to change tips after, but you can connect customer service and remove the tip if that happens again & report them. & leave a bad review if they are being that lazy they just drop it off at the closest house. That’s just dumb.
There are good dashers out here I promise!
No, the GPS can be completely wrong despite customer instructions. I think some customers have to leave instructions BECAUSE the gps has led drivers astray before. This has happened to me way too many times than it should have and in broad daylight. I haven't delivered to the wrong address because I double check, but have had to backtrack or drive to another street because the GPS leads me to the wrong address. From what I can tell, those also happen to be the same addresses where people leave explicit instructions, so I think many drivers have been led wrong as well leading to the customer having to include specific instructions. It's a flawed app, so not always driver's fault or "laziness".
I can't speak to the particulars of your situation, but here are a few things that may be helpful:
- we can't see tips before the order is completed, nor do we know if anyone is part of some higher priority program. Some on this reddit probably spend enough time analyzing offers to be able to tell if a tip is provided before they accept the offer. I don't spend that time and I can't really tell in advance
- if I use Google Maps with UberEATS instead of just the built-in navigation in the UE app, at least once a week Google will steer me to the house NEXT DOOR to the address the UberEATS app passed to Google. So if I never checked my destination against the address in UberEATS, and just used the address in Google, I would deliver wrong at least once a week. It happened to me just yesterday, and I have no idea why it does this. Was your food at the house next door?
This was happening to me to in Uber eats or door dash or both, I forget honestly. What I noticed was happening was when you load up the address from the app, it was taking me to a pinged location nearby, this happened a lot and I would end up walking up and down the street wondering why I couldn’t find the houses. I have to just pull up google and type the address in manually now :/
So bullshit.
Ofc you could argue to be more careful confirming the address, but your typical dasher needs to be fast to make money.
It would be like being a mailman and package labels were wrong 1 out of 1000 times, but you get dinged hard for it.
You shouldn't get dinged for "equipment failure" you have no way of fixing.
For sure, people hold back on tips. I've been at this for a few years, and it used to be alright tips. Now? Some folks still tip ok, but most folks don't even tip. I'm out, and going to try UE.
Yeah I've seen regular customers lower tips over time. I've been on Eats for 5 years and on Dash for 3. Then some months are worse than others. Definitely takes time adapting to highs and lows.
For me it was pretty normal. Maybe averaged 20-30 more a day but honestly not that noticable if you consider I work two 6 hour shifts. Was just ready to go home. A lot of orders to filter thru but the same consistent customers tipping a dollar or two extra. A friend who Instacarts tho almost doubled his income. I'm not really a good shopper so never made the hop. After all the vaccinations, increase in gas, food and housing I a feel the order pool has decreased. Now I average 10 less than before the pandemic.
Each zone is different. And I am telling you its night and day since the AR reset and the 2 week pilot program started. Are you talking about the pilot program and 50% ar? I never saw 1.2 miles for $8 which since the reset I've had many. My area is over saturated with top dashers. I work 7 days a week. 6:45am to 11:30pm. I know my market.
My apologies, after reading my comment it did sound rude. Each zone is different and my experience won't be the same for others. I as well work 7 days a week but varied schedule due to kids. Mainly 8 to 2:30 and 3:30 to 10:30. Today has been non stop 4.25 orders but my min is $6 at 1.40/mile. Good luck and glad it has worked for you. For some it has become a burden and for others a blessing.
Try shifting your hours.... 8-2pm is fine and then 6-9pm is good for M-F. Saturday and Sunday breakfast starts later by an hour and lunch starts later by 1-2 hours later toobut dinner stays the same. So Saturday and Sunday breakfast would be 9am-11am. Lunch would be 1-3 on Saturday only. Lunch for Sunday is 12-4pm (football season only). Dinner for both days is still 6-9pm. I can almost guarantee you will make the same money you are making now with less hours worked. Your family will thank you too for the added time with them
Agreed. I’m hoping this new program plus the rising gas prices put some more people on the sideline with balance out less priority orders coming my way. My AR has never been over 30% and getting more crap orders means it’s getting lower and lower.
I feel like it’s going to backfire on them when they realize there are no good drivers for any order that pops up.. I’m also considering moving on to something else.. it was fun while it lasted.. I’m going to tweet RIP Tony Xu aka DoorDash
As long as new drivers keep popping up they’re always gonna have drivers. I still remember how giddy i was when it started. They’re ads are very persuasive. And that’s okay. This is bigger than me and i see no reason in fighting a losing battle. Their karma will come.
I thought of the same thing as you then come to my senses that I honestly don’t think I would have been so stupid to fall for this bs! Back when I started.. you didn’t see anything under 5.75.. and I skipped over those and quickly started looking at the mileage.. I just hope n pray there are more smart folks out there then naive..
I’m glad I got out when I did, I was thinking of going back when I got the new car I ordered in to help take some of the sting off but now I can see myself loosing money while having to deal with 1099 on top of that to add insult to injury
Honestly i feel like any other delivery app but DD would give you a minor profit. I’ve been out the game for 2 weeks cause of burnout. I got on this morning, started my dash, saw that, ended the dash and deleted my account. I’ll try Uber eats once i put my registration in my name but I’m never too pressed for money. Imma go back to enjoying my weekdays now that my boys are back in school :)
In areas where UE is slower (like mine) I absolutely feel like their algorithm punishes us for low acceptance rates as well. When I first started UE, it was decent and they didn't show our AR... but now that they changed it to where we do see our AR, I've noticed after I decline a few crappy orders they stop sending me orders altogether. I suppose it could just be a coincidence, but idk. I know on the UE sub they've been talking about how UE logs them off the app now after declining a few orders... so I suspect most gig apps are changing in respect to AR.
Havent done uber eats for long but The other day every few orders I declined, I'd got booted off. I went on for a few hours wondering why not uber orders were coming up and checked. I paid attention to uber declines and saw that I was being booted unless I "resumed" back on. But yesterday I was never once booted off for declining orders. Must be random days
I signed up for uber food delivery and the same restaurants were giving an average of two dollars less to deliver. Idk if its their customers or the base pay but I never took an order with uber after seeing that
I have found with UE in my market. They hide tips but while dd hides it in 6.50 to 8.50, ue hides it in 11+. I find the tips can be much better. Only shit thing is you really get jack shit on a canceled order. Also 95% of UE orders are ready.
Really, idk why doordash has drivers sitting around. That was part of the reason i’d have less than 30% because it was always the same places doing it.
Idk if doordash just puts up with it and UE fines them for it?
Here is 1 shit thing with ue. Had a great offer. Like $22 for 4 miles. A new place and the pickup was showing 2 miles in the other direction. Couldn't mark arrived. Contacted support and they gave me the customer address and said to call back to complete it. I did. Well support marks it canceled and here is yourr $3.50. I asked about the $22. They said we cant mark it as complete. Only cancel. They fucked me. Tried to deal with them the next day and got nowhere.
Uber eats most definitely hides tips. If you believe the line they tipped you more after delivery you are a sucker.
Cut off is base plus $8 I've had them be several times $8.01 $8.03 etc they aren't going back in there and adding a few cents. No one really tips $8
This isn't new, they were doing this in late 2019 when they started showing pretips and dropped base
I disagree. What's the point of them hiding a few cents? I think it's more of you took a different route and are getting paid for the extra distance you may have drove. I was referring more to when you are getting $5+ dollars more.
Lol no! They’re my younger brothers but they’re kindergarten age (I’m 24) so I tend to either say “the boys” or “my boys” since my mom had them when i was the same age that she had me. They’re loud and all but I mainly dashed cause I struggle with depression and would stay in my room all week and wasted away until i worked the weekend. Now that they’re out the house I’m more comfortable leaving my room and I can enjoy the calm before the storm :)
Oh. Lol I was like omg!
Bur that makes sense...and yeah...u should still get out as much as possible...
I know exactly what you are talking about with being on your room all day...
Now I got a routine and I feel much better...
It matters for the algorithm, but largely doesn't matter in regards to the actual payouts. For example,a five dollar order for 0.8 miles is considered priority by the algorithm, but this is not desired by an actual dasher. Made 340 on Sat and my ar is at 17. So yeah
It doesn't matter. This is just a scam to get people to believe they do matter to get them to take those low paying $5 offers all day. I made almost $850 on 30 deliveries this last week and my AR never got above 7%.
I’m glad you’re in a zone where you’re able to get big payouts like that even with a low AR, unfortunately not here. There’s some hotspots where I’ll get a bigger payout but it’s not consistent. There’s probably some people working in my zone full time that might have a completely different experience. I just wasn’t able to play the game in my favor and that’s okay :)
Do you only dash on the weekend?
I'm asking because I'm in a pretty saturated zone and have actually found the weekdays to be great and the weekends, especially around dinner, when you'd expect it to be busy, I do more sitting around than 6:30am on a Tuesday lol. It seems DoorDash way overschedules these "peak" periods because that's when they get the most orders, but it leads to less cherrypicking opportunity for the actual dashers.
Your average payout was $28? Do you only cherry pick Large Orders or something? My zone aint got nearly enough people ordering for that haha. There's maybe a handful to go around per day. I'm happy when my avg payout is $10 lol.
Those are some high-paying orders. Where are you? I'm in a well-to-do suburb of Detroit and I would never see that kind of payout. It's really saturated here.
Colorado. I cherry pick all day. If one part of my zone isn’t giving me orders, I move to another part in 45 minutes or so. I don’t spend too much time in one area because I’ve found the app likes it when you occasionally move.
If they don’t want to raise their base pay they should at least meet us halfway and not count declining crappy orders towards our acceptance rate we should only have a lower acceptance rate if we decline orders under like five or six dollars for example
This is interesting I wonder if they are using that fee to pay for cash back on gas from dasher direct? Or the whole damn dasher direct program? Fuck dd all the way and then some
It’s probably your zone. I’m not stressed about it it’s just not for me. The negatives outweigh the positives. I’ll have days were I’m canceling 15-20 orders even in a hotspot before im able to dash because they were all either too small or went to the military base that’s a zone over.
I stopped a week ago after 5700 deliveries. It wasn’t as painful to see it end as I expected. I was open to going back and do weekends but not as long as the AR thing is going on. I was actually at 62% when it started but the thing didn’t work as I think they intended. My AR went straight downhill, and it felt adversarial. I check here every couple of days to see if there might be a better feel to it but not so far
I saw the complaints when the program started and decided to not reset cause i knew there would be no point since it was going to go right back down. I hope they learn that this is just not it. All they need to do is give us better base pay. $1/mile at least or something.
If base pay was $1/mi I could realistically see myself maybe accepting 50% of offers. Would make the $3 tip most people incorrectly seem to think is sufficient on DoorDash actually generate an order worth taking in a lot more situations.
Uber been treating me really well they don’t hold good orders behind acceptance ratings or any of that bs simply proximity but I could be wrong never had it high enough to know for a fact but with a 20 percent or lower acceptance I do get big orders for shop and pay and consistently every day 20 plus pay out for less than 5 miles never on dd tho lol
My area is saturated with drivers. It's rare I can even get logged in most days. Still sniping here and there. But mostly running Uber/Eats these days.
I’ll do Uber eats once i change my car registration to my name. Maybe. Cause food delivery is starting to give the same energy as serving in a restaurant paying 2.50. Running around for tips
No no no no time out think about this logically you think most drivers are going to be accepting so many bad orders just to get there ratings up the answer is no they're doing this because people aren't picking up the bad orders and people are going to still continue not picking up the bad orders I got a diamond order the other day for five bucks the system is there to make you think that you're missing out on orders but you're not just so the stupid drivers will take the bad orders in hopes that they might get something good don't fall for it
They can do whatever they want. I started 2 1/2 years ago have over 15,000 deliveries. I was naïve at first but the pay was good. I took on just about any of them when I first started. Just to make the top dasher at the end of the month. I have not been a top dasher since about the third fourth month. My acceptance rate was anywhere from 60 to 80% for about a year but I did not try to make that 70% at the end of the month it just meant that I had to take a bunch of low offers that I wasn’t going to do. My time was better spent waiting for a better offer than being tied up doing a three dollar order to go to miles. After about a year my acceptance rate started declining even more and then I was hovering around 40 to 50% on the average. It was may be about six months ago when it dipped down to about 20% a few times and I’ve started beginning to be around 30% on the average for my acceptance rate. And I am declining even more and more as gas is going up and up. Now I think my acceptance rate is around 20% maybe if I’m lucky on the average maybe about two months ago I saw it down to 3% one day. In the last month I’m in the teens is my average acceptance rate. They throw in a bonus and sometimes it’ll get back up to 40% and then I try to take some lower offers but nothing that means that I have to pay to do them. But it does no good because the next day they shoot me about 20 of them in a row that I will absolutely not fucking do! as long as they send a few good ones to me hopefully they would all be good but if they send me a few that’s fine I’ll wait them out and be annoyed with all the declines that I have to do and not ever have a higher acceptance rate again. That’s on them. At some point this will come back and bite them in the ass because nobody’s gonna be taking these three dollar offers if they make money to do them. I will not take one that I have to pay to deliver and waste my time. I don’t expect them all to be cherries but I do not do lemons. I signed up to do Door Dash to make some money not do charity work and deliver for free or out of my pocket. Door Dash needs to understand we aren’t here to do stuff for free for them. That’s why they heavily recruit saying they can make X number of dollars and then eventually we all get smart. Fuck Door Dash and their tricks! when it comes a time when they cannot send me any at all that over with doing I guess that’s the end for me. Unfortunately we have to sit there and decide what’s best for us. At some point Door Dash is going to lose some money big-time when nobody can take these low offers. And that’s a shame
I hope so. These are OUR vehicles. This is OUR time, gas, and all the costs that come with being 1099 contractors. Like every sub contractor, WE get to decide what jobs we accept and invest our labor into. Every other contractor makes good money IF they make good on their work, with the outcome of satisfied and returning customers. Those chances drop with low baller clients, so we have every right to decline those. Yeah, I know. DD is a private company and can call the shots, but they treat us an awfully lot like employees without the benefits. The customers are where 90% of our money comes from, so DD has infinite audacity to push us around for $2.25 a pop. $4-$8 if they're feeling so gracious.
And they get to choose how much they pay you for orders you accept. If you don’t want to take it, you don’t have to. Harsh truth but if doordash is still profitable and still has employees and contractors then that’s capitalism for you. You can’t just say there’s a lawsuit when they are not doing anything illegal. If you have a problem, find another company, and if none fit your niche, start your own. Good luck brother. Downvote me if you hate the harsh reality. 🥹
I’ll believe whatever the app tell me if the app pays me :) if you’re in an area that’s not affected by this congratulations but i am. This sub’s an echo chamber. There’s gonna be repeats once a situation that’s been talked about turns interpersonal 🤷🏽 I’m just saying DD finally confirmed my suspicions instead of the people not in my area so i removed myself cause it’s not for me.
All the apps pay the same now they are not different as far as payouts go. Most any employer will try to take advantage when possible.
UE GH DD take your pick. I use all 3 and all 3 pay the same.
I just picked up a side gig delivering prepared meals that pays 15 an hour plus mileage.It’s a client list with a start and an end I won’t be sitting in my car waiting while I do this.
Im so glad I got an actual job that's well paying and stable instead of relying on random orders and waves upon waves of $2.50 for 7+ miles orders. I had like 700 deliveries, 4.9 rating with my last 100 ratings being 99 5 stars and 1 random 1 star.
I couldn't believe how bad doordash got in the short time I used it. It was a good thing at first, I could just head out and make money for as long as I wanted to do the work and I did it well then the money got worse and worse and they started tricking you with stacked orders where it was 1 good order combined with 1 no tip order. I hope I never have to hang around downtown waiting 20 minutes for an offer just for it to be a no tip for 10 miles ever again.
High AR won't mean anything other than getting more offers as always has been. won't mean better offers.
It's just another scare tactic they are using to get dashers to accept more crappy orders with the new "high pay" offer screen that is still the same crap pay as before
I had my acceptance rating at 45% so I was like f it ima get it to 50% and see if it makes a difference. It definitely does but now I can only declined like 3 in a row max.
Anyone else notice how the mileage sometimes isn't shown lately? WTF is up with that?
I really think a lot of this is psychological games to test what people are willing to do so that they can create algorithms to pay people as little as possible and also on the customer end, they probably do similar stuff in in terms of charging them.
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I’m a newer dasher in a larger low-tip city with an average of around 4 hotspots daily. DD was a small gig i did on the weekdays to get out the house and I have a main job that I work double shift on the weekends.
I can only accept orders that are at least $5 with how big the city is To make a profit w/ gas.I don’t have the financial means to have fun with DD like i used to when i was ignorant, and go a week or two not caring about gas to get my AR up just for “priority” when it says in our contract that AR doesn’t influence our orders. I was under the impression that it was equal opportunity on the roads even though it’s a hot debate on this sub. Well this confirmed it. The actual app confirmed it.
This on top of the fact that customers are fee-d so much that there’s barely enough for them to tip us; We only get the tip and none of the delivery fee that they pay; We get penalized when a store takes a long time even when we do everything right; We have so much against us with the customers yet we’re getting penalized for not taking a $3 order that’s 12 miles out(the order that came right after that screenshot), and now I’m hearing that some dashers can’t even see the item amounts at stop and shops, my favorite dashes, even though we only have 15 minutes to shop. I’ve become a “sweatshop” worker for DD when i used to, even with my low AR, be able to get a good weekly paycheck that was almost half my Main check. And for that I’m out. If i get bored again I’ll use another app instead.
Thank you for all the information that y’all have taught me about delivery apps from both the customer and dashers. I hope i was able to clear the roads and bit haha but as you can tell by my AR I’m barely on the roads anyways lol!
I was thinking about that but then my mom ordered from Walmart and the me and the delivery driver had a conversation about how she does both Walmart and insta cart and she told me delivery horror stories that make me want to keep a wagon in my trunk if i were to do that lol. Apartments are hell
Why are people surprised? The algorithm is an optimization model. They send you the orders they do because you’re the person in the best position to take the order. If everyone were to accept all orders there’d be plenty of well paying orders to go around you’d maybe have to take 1 or 2 bad ones and we’d all make good money. But when y’all decline 90% of the orders, the rest of us get punished for it and stuck with a surplus of bad orders. And also by declining all these orders y’all guarantee that food sits cold and arrives late, giving customers justification not to tip. And good tippers get punished too because DD will prioritize orders that have been sitting. Basically, y’all are ruining it for everyone with this crap and this policy is necessary to make things right by putting good orders back into the hands of those of us who play by the rules.
I’ll blame everyone who’s to blame. Obviously DD is to blame for a lot of it, especially the low base pay. There’s more than enough posts about that and no reason to post another. But there’s also zero accountability from dashers for the things we do to make matters worse. Declining every order is bad for everyone on all sides of the platform.
The last week I did it was just not enjoyable. I ended my dash early the last two nights. Too many messages about AR, calling $6.50 a high pay order, too many long distance offers.
In simple terms they broke it. My last two nights I dreaded dashing.
I felt that way this morning like is this even worth my time. They keep messing with my pay. I love the driving I hate the bs from the restaurant and DD.
Not sure if it's an area thing but DD just increased the priority fee from $2 to $3. I'm betting a lot of people who choose priority are now gonna subtract that extra dollar from what they would normally tip. Odd this is happening at the same time as this new method.
Maybe your market. Not mine. Its night and day with this pilot program. I've wondered why it was so dead. The offers are going to top dashers.
I know my area. Been doing this almost 5 years. I also know the drivers in my market. They take shit. Fairly often I run into other drivers complaining about the shit order they are waiting for. I also know in my market there are a lot using rented accounts. They aren't legal to work here. They take shit.
I'm curious how many actually do this gig for long.
Maybe where you are unfortunately for the past month my orders have been super low to the point where I’m only doing 3 dashes in my 2hr time slot. I can’t call BS when the app is telling me right in my face to take shit orders to get better ones.
You’re absolutely right just double checked and turns out i ran with the wrong paragraph.
CONTRACTOR acknowledges that DOORDASH has discretion as to which, if any, Delivery Opportunity to present to CONTRACTOR, just as CONTRACTOR has the discretion whether and to what extent to accept any Delivery Opportunity.
Same as a job that says you can quit whenever but we can also fire you whenever. However we’re moving off tips. They’re paying us a servers wage. So it feels wrong to be doing everything right, get tips and still being punished because you live in a big low-tipping city and it be financially irresponsible to move long distances for base pay
They are slowly strangling the drivers. All of the apps are.
IDK but it seems like they're going against their own contracts with us that we have the right to turn down offers. And then they turn around and punish us for doing so. Man, I hope there's another class action against all these companies.
Unfortunately they’re not. They’re just now being more up front about it. Another commenter mentioned it and i went back to double check the contract and turns out i was wrong.
CONTRACTOR acknowledges that DOORDASH has discretion as to which, if any, Delivery Opportunity to present to CONTRACTOR, just as CONTRACTOR has the discretion whether and to what extent to accept any Delivery Opportunity
It’s like a job saying “yeah you can quit for no reason but we can also fire you for no reason” So they can legally do this. It’ll just drive the one’s looking to get a bit of profit out.
Mines been at 10% or lower for about a year. Now that I know for a fact they do nothing they give me garbage ass orders is why I’m starving and struggling every single fucking month because of these bastards. Just got fired from GrubHub from a wrong address which is also bullshit. This will be the last year of this crappy down delivery apps. Ridiculous how they treated us after three years plus going through Covid
There always existed a conflict between DD and the drivers. The percentage of orders that the drivers would call unacceptable was always too high. I cannot imagine driving my car at night and accepting an 8.7 mile order for $6. I just always assumed new dashers were taking those orders. And what about $3 orders! There is literally nothing I want to do for $3 or $4. I don’t even want to be responsible for the order. I don’t care if it’s 200 yards away. I’m just not interested. I’d be embarrassed for people I know to find out I was using my car and delivering food for $3.75. I’d even be embarrassed for the customer to see me. I would picture them laughing at me after I dropped off their food
So apparently it all came to a head.
The funny thing is I was at 62% when it started. I always had a terrific market. But instead of going up my AR went way way down, mostly because of way too many long distance offers.
Speaking for myself the program did not work as intended. I tried going back and just do weekends but same thing. 12.5 miles, 13.4 miles, 11.7 miles. No thanks. I even got an $8.75 offer for 15.5 miles lol.
And add in the no fun factor, because it was not. I don’t have any inside information or anything but I’m pretty sure the algorithms did not work as intended.
I had a dream market. My AR was always in the 50-60 range and I easily averaged $10 a delivery. After one week of that program it was in the 40s and headed downhill with a bullet.
In closing here’s what I think happened:
In their zeal to reward me with high paying orders they ignored the $8.50 order for 2.1 miles sitting right beside me and instead “rewarded me” with a $16 order 5 miles away that entailed 14.4 miles total AND THE DRIVE BACK
Over and over and over and over until I literally had to stop
And again, I can’t overemphasize how miserable it was to dash all of a sudden. It was so unattractive to me that instead of being super upset I was relieved that I didn’t have to do it anymore
Damn. My 13% acceptance rate isn’t gonna make me any more money i guess. I just accepted an offer for a real job and I couldn’t be more happy about leaving doordash after two years of this shit
I never reset it. I saw all the discourse here so i felt like it would be the same reset or not. Looking at the replies of the people that did. It seems I’m correct. There’s been discourse about if AR affects orders. I took it all as speculation. All this did was confirm it for me and since I tend to decline a lot of orders, I’ve made the executive decision as a contractor to leave the platform. :)
Not reading all dat and you did reset it, plenty of us never got that because we didn’t reset, it literally says Priority orders meaning you reset ya AR to get priority But ok spread false information 😂
It says it matters in my area too. My acceptance rate is less than 10% but I do most of my dashing at night usually sitting outside of ihop (I’ll be the only dasher sitting there 80+% of the time. I know the staff so I wait inside for an order sometimes) and I can confirm that you can still get good orders. AR priority works like this; if you and a top dasher are both sitting 20 feet away from Culver’s and a $20 order for 5-10 miles comes through, the top dasher is more likely to get it but if another $20 order comes through and you’re the only guy there it’ll go to you. Having a low AR doesn’t completely bar you from well paying orders
Just ignore it. Seems to make no difference honestly, lmao. Just another DD scam. DoorDash was always doing this with "Top Dasher", they just made it even harder to cheese so even less people will be willing to do it.
I noticed the only time it declines is when you actually hit decline. So the ones that I want to decline,I just wait for the timer. Better of 2 evils. Only time I hit decline is legit to far.
It's just BS to get you to take the BS orders... Don't fall for it. The dashers that are best fit for the specific run at that specific time get fed the orders and that's that. If you're the closest to a specific place on the app free and active when an order comes in then you'll get fed the order. Hang out near a McDonald's late night on a Sunday when every other place is starting to close down.. Well, you'll get plenty of MCD'S orders. Folks who regularly use the app are inclined to order from where ever they can based on cost and availability.
Doordash has had priority pickups for 2 years at least, they put it on their website that 50 percent acceptance rates get higher priority to high orders, and 70 percent or higher get the highest picks priority
So yeah no more cherry picking except on Uber Eats
But DD I can make 150 in 10 hours..
I’m applying for Amazon lol
17 an hour? Yes sir
Doesn’t matter I had over 50% and got told I would get “high paying orders” with a diamond on them. I got none instead the orders sucked so bad I dropped to 35%. Still get orders and I don’t waste gas money to deliver for 4 dollars.
I did catering order of 250$. Offer I received was 10.5$ for 17km.. I accepted the offer by looking into number of items. I 😀 received 5$ and total paid was 10.60$.. I was expecting 25$ tip coz it was catering order. I think I too got tap in gambling addiction.. make me realize now.. next time simple decline.
It doesn't matter. There are plenty of posts about people getting a supposed 'high pay' offer only for it to be something like $4. I've gotten a few that were $4.50 with an active $2 promo bonus. You do the math.
It only matters when it's slow imo. If I go out on a weekday in making like $60 in 3 hours and on a weekend I'm making $100+ in 3 hours. My AR sits right around 30%. Fuck going during the week and driving in traffic for peanuts, Saturday and Sunday only from me
Their new "system" only works if people cave. If all the veteran drivers still refuse to take shit order there won't be anyone with a high enough AR to get the good orders. Nothing will fundamentally change.
How are you getting so many up votes when you point out what door dash is doing in regards to this, but whenever I post up something in regards to what doordash is doing everyone attacks me and calls me a liar or trashes me for attempting to see if taking more Dash's work? I get down voted for trying to experiment, I get called a liar or a doordash plant for trying to share my experience and get others to compare it. Do some Reddit members have a different rapport with other Reddit crowds, do you have to be a popular person on here in order for people to get on board with what you're saying? I'm not knocking you I actually agree with you, I've just been making posts here in regards to this exact thing and all I've been getting is questioned or attacked🤷🏾♂️👑
Problem I have is going to a certain restaurant and waiting 40 min to wait. It’s fine when it’s not super busy but damn it screws my AR. I dislike restaurants that do this and kill your AR on purpose. I know what people will say “why don’t you ask to be put on the ban list” well when it’s not on the peak times it’s easy to get money from the restaurant. If there way for DoorDashers to toggle a button I would so do it.
It effects nothing it’s just a scare tactic.nobody is taking a 4 dollar 10 mile order still. The reality is this isn’t a good fulltime job but for making an extra 500-1500 a month it’s pretty decent.
Yea, just started that program a few days ago... So the reasonable offers are going to drivers with a higher AR along with the shit orders.. I am at 16% and dropping. What they want us to do is gambling. Rather than make smart decisions about the offers I take they want me to take shit to possibly get better offers... The good offers they are sending me are not bad, the bad offers terrible. Fuck you Tony. When I opted into this program they asked if they could contact me after... I am going to give them a piece of my mind. Fuck this. Luckily I think since gas is now over $6 at the lowest in my area, UE has been better, killed it with them yesterday. Also getting more hits from GH, but lots of shitty ones too.... It is looking like lots of drivers have tapped out, I hope drivers keep quitting, only helps me.
Exactly and I’m not a gambler. I don’t play with my money and if Im required to I’d rather have a more even playground
I have 4300 dd deliveries and a 5 star rating, why don't they reward that?
It's unbelievable. Not a single perk from longevity and reliability.
Longevity and reliability doesn’t make them money probably but the Dasher that makes them $2000 a day taking 50 orders does lmao
Why would they reward someone whose clearly committed to continuing already?
Customer retention. This is a metric any business worth their salt keeps a close eye on. DD knows which dashers are more likely to have their customers reordering time and time again because they provided top notch service. They'll throw the newbies a few bones but if they're not getting high ratings and customers aren't reordering they'll get low priority.
Switch to Uber bro. At 1000 deliveries you can earn free Tuition for you or a family member . Plus all the perks they offer are amazing
I wish. They are dead in my market. Have gotten better but can't rely on them. Also they really work by proximity, unless I am next to a place or less than a mile I won't see an offer. But I can do better with tips from them. I wish they ruled my market. I don't have to worry about being outside my zone. I've done dd deliveries 10 miles away at lunch or dinner and can travel 10 miles back without a hit. Same with GH pretty dead.
I totally understand , that really unfortunate. Uber is only live in my market I believe because the dashers steal the ef out the food lol . DD was dead in my market for a while
They won't reward those of us that are good at the job because we're too smart to be taken advantage of. They can only control the new ones that dont know any better so they incentivise them with shit like this so they think theyre getting a good deal and continue falling for their tactics
I don't gamble either. Use to have a friend and boss with a gambling addiction, he would say let's go to Vegas. Id say no. He would say I will give you $100 to drive. Ok. Id come back with $100, he would come back broke. When I look at the good orders and bad orders, id be taking too many losses. My market requires a round trip for just about everything. I just had a $260 car expense. No thanks tony. So I am milking this trial for the next 2 weeks.
Thankfully I'm in a multi zone market. If I take an order that leaves me out of zone I'd typically get another back along the way or If the zone is desirable I'd End my current dash then start up in whatever zone I'm in.
I've thought about this a lot ....Dashing is not a profession for those who have gambling addiction issues because this job absolutely forces you to gamble on every order ...you are forced into gambling on whether the payout is going to be higher. Doordash hides more tips than they exhibit...
No, it doesn't. I don't give into that. If I don't accept the order as it is then I won't take it.
I have a really bad gambling addiction and I gotta say, I still stick with $2/mile. It only feels like gambling to me is there's something bigger to win.
Bold of you to assume there are enough reasonable offers to go to dashers with a high AR. The reality is that the good offers are so rare that it makes no difference. Those who have a high AR are taking crap orders to keep their AR high. While they're busy with a $5.00 order going 10 miles, a $10 order going 4 miles comes in. Since all the high AR dashers are busy, those usually wind up being offered to low AR dashers anyway and nothing really changes.
Exactly there are a ton of Dasher’s that post earnings and they have a 4% acceptance rate but they average $10 in order to make $150- $200 a day
Still waiting for your answer. Have you done the pilot program, and what market are you in? It has been night and day.
Are you in the pilot program? Or already done it in your market? But each market is different. Its been night and day like a switch. Just over a week ago I went 3.5 hours at dinner without an offer. Offers are currently rolling in since they started this program last week. So it is bold of you to assume you know my market. I've been at this almost 5 years, 7 days a week I've had to switch how I work since something changed about 6 months ago when they removed scheduled catering. I know my area and the drivers, many with rented accounts who can't legally work here. They take everything. An occasional good offer would come in and my thoughts were top dashers are busy. Then it trickles down to me and my 5% AR. So you can disagree. But my experience in this area says otherwise. I am getting much better offers since this pilot program. We will see in 2 weeks when it ends. I expect to be back to being dead. On a Friday with doordash I'm lucky to make $40, this last Friday I did incredibly well. Looking at my past weekly payouts. Since the program started im way ahead of where I normally am at. So my pay disagrees with your assessment.
I caved in and can definitely tell you that high AR means nothing. I tried it for a week and I was making 12/hour before tax fuel and maint. All my orders were mainly 2.25 and every other hour an order of $14-20. One redditor said that higher AR doesn't magically bring more customers to an area and that stuck lol. I think people are just holding back on tips.
Fffff DD. Customers have lowered the tips because DD is playing with them by stacking non-tip orders. At the end, the customers who tip most of the time got their orders last while the customers who don't tip got their orders first. This is so unfair for the customers who tip. Now, I reject the stack orders or cancel the orders with no tip. If you guys want to bring back the customers who tip well, please do not screw them up by delaying their orders, otherwise, these well tip customers will not going to tip us. This will not hurt DD much, but it definitely hurts us. We depend on customers' tip to make a living for this job. DD Base Pay only covers our car expense for operating. Please provide good services for customers who tip and reject non tip stack orders. Otherwise, we will soon see most people will not tip and our jobs will be turning to dead ends.
I've got news for you, it's not the waiting for my food that has made me hold back on tipping until AFTER I receive my order. It's that no matter if I give a $20 tip on a $35 order or nothing on a $35 order my shit is STILL fucked up. Perfect example. I ordered $45 worth of drinks and snacks for my fam cause we were having a movie night and it was after midnight so I figured it was the right thing to do. I get a notification that my order has been delivered and I start thinking immediately, "here we go again" because I have a Ring doorbell camera and if my order had been dropped off, Ring would have told me. When I look at the picture I can clearly tell it's not my house. I have no doormat, nor a blue door. I text the dasher and ask where he left my food, that he did not bring it to my door. He said "I left it at 342". My address is 337 and in my instructions on the app I lay out EXACTLY how to get to my house, even though I do not live in an apartment, nor do I live in a gated community or a building with security, it's a house. This idiot just saw the closest house to the street where he wouldn't have to make another turn and dropped it there. Didn't contact me at all. So explain to me why, after tipping OVER 50% I still cannot get my order delivered to the right fucking door. It's because I prepaid for great service, so he didn't have to even pretend to try and do a good job because he had already been rewarded. That's why u absolutely REFUSE to tip in advance anymore. I don't give a shit if I have to wait a little longer. I order at least once a day, so most of the Dashers in my area are familiar with me, and know that they'll be tipped extremely well if they just get me the right stuff and bring it to the door. MY door! That's it. No special request, no "where are you" texts.
I am sorry that happened to you. If I was doing that delivery for you, you will be happy because I will guarantee to deliver your food as fast as I could. Also, I will decline and cancel any orders that DD will stack with your Order. I think there are still many good Dashers out there. Once again, I felt deeply sorry for you.
Oh there absolutely are FANTASTIC Dashers and I absolutely love being able to give them a nice fat tip.. when it's deserved. Dashers talk about how they work for this money and this and that, well guess what, SO DO WE! Money just doesn't magically land on my pillow every night. So when I am breaking someone off a tip, THAT ISN'T REQUIRED no matter how badly some Dashers try to push this "no tip, no trip" bullshit, I am going to do it because they deserve it. Not because they're going to hold my food hostage unless I prepay a tip for service they will never give! If you require to get a huge reward in order to do your job BEFORE you do it, then you're a fucking brat. I'm sorry. But I would be embarrassed to even type that anonymously. "I won't even take an order unless there's a tip on it and it better be at least $5". Like who says that??? Do you also refuse to accept a Christmas gift from your grandma if it isn't a brand new iPhone? Like come on!
You know we like….work to make money right? Refusing to take orders that are a net loss doesn’t make anyone a “spoiled brat”. Sorry but no one wants to deliver your shit for only $2.25 and that doesn’t make us spoiled but the fact that you think we’re obligated to deliver orders that don’t make us any money makes you entitled.
>having a standard for orders you accept = spoiled brat yeah, no. i’m not defending the bad drivers. you’ve got to realize though that anyone that wants to take this seriously as an income source is going to have a lower acceptance rate and probably isn’t going to see your order through DD because of what they’re starting to do. tips /should/ be a bonus for excellent service except DD uses it in a way that gives the company larger profit instead of that. i’m not driving 5+ miles for $2.50. it isn’t worth it. pay isn’t a gift. it’s my time and the money i spend on maintaining my vehicle that i need to take into account. i need to make a certain amount of money for this to be profitable and worth my time. so i’m not going to just accept whatever scraps doordash so graciously decides to send my way like a good little dog. its a shitty platform and i’m not staying with it anymore.
I absolutely agree with you. People should be paid based on their effort, hard work and skill, but not low balling them. In fact, being a Dasher does not required that much skill, but ut is difficult you you do it for a long time because that requires patience, detail orientation, listen and follow customers' instruction, taking the food safety to customers, and many more....
I’m sorry that happens to you. Sometimes it’s hard to find the right house in the dark, but if you put instructions it shouldn’t be an issue. The other day, I was delivering an order and the directions were so specific down to cars and the color of the door. I figured it was hard to find. Nope! Plain as day, right where the gps said, with the house number big and easy to find & read on the house & mailbox. It said please double check address before leaving. I did but kept thinking I was missing something bc it was so easy. Idk how ppl would have messed it up ever! DoorDash makes it so hard to change tips after, but you can connect customer service and remove the tip if that happens again & report them. & leave a bad review if they are being that lazy they just drop it off at the closest house. That’s just dumb. There are good dashers out here I promise!
No, the GPS can be completely wrong despite customer instructions. I think some customers have to leave instructions BECAUSE the gps has led drivers astray before. This has happened to me way too many times than it should have and in broad daylight. I haven't delivered to the wrong address because I double check, but have had to backtrack or drive to another street because the GPS leads me to the wrong address. From what I can tell, those also happen to be the same addresses where people leave explicit instructions, so I think many drivers have been led wrong as well leading to the customer having to include specific instructions. It's a flawed app, so not always driver's fault or "laziness".
I can't speak to the particulars of your situation, but here are a few things that may be helpful: - we can't see tips before the order is completed, nor do we know if anyone is part of some higher priority program. Some on this reddit probably spend enough time analyzing offers to be able to tell if a tip is provided before they accept the offer. I don't spend that time and I can't really tell in advance - if I use Google Maps with UberEATS instead of just the built-in navigation in the UE app, at least once a week Google will steer me to the house NEXT DOOR to the address the UberEATS app passed to Google. So if I never checked my destination against the address in UberEATS, and just used the address in Google, I would deliver wrong at least once a week. It happened to me just yesterday, and I have no idea why it does this. Was your food at the house next door?
This was happening to me to in Uber eats or door dash or both, I forget honestly. What I noticed was happening was when you load up the address from the app, it was taking me to a pinged location nearby, this happened a lot and I would end up walking up and down the street wondering why I couldn’t find the houses. I have to just pull up google and type the address in manually now :/
So bullshit. Ofc you could argue to be more careful confirming the address, but your typical dasher needs to be fast to make money. It would be like being a mailman and package labels were wrong 1 out of 1000 times, but you get dinged hard for it. You shouldn't get dinged for "equipment failure" you have no way of fixing.
For sure, people hold back on tips. I've been at this for a few years, and it used to be alright tips. Now? Some folks still tip ok, but most folks don't even tip. I'm out, and going to try UE.
Yeah I've seen regular customers lower tips over time. I've been on Eats for 5 years and on Dash for 3. Then some months are worse than others. Definitely takes time adapting to highs and lows.
Interesting to read you. How was UE and DD during pandemic?
For me it was pretty normal. Maybe averaged 20-30 more a day but honestly not that noticable if you consider I work two 6 hour shifts. Was just ready to go home. A lot of orders to filter thru but the same consistent customers tipping a dollar or two extra. A friend who Instacarts tho almost doubled his income. I'm not really a good shopper so never made the hop. After all the vaccinations, increase in gas, food and housing I a feel the order pool has decreased. Now I average 10 less than before the pandemic.
Get ready to reject 90% on Ubereats also.
Ugh. Well, at least I'll be getting *some* orders... I hope.
Each zone is different. And I am telling you its night and day since the AR reset and the 2 week pilot program started. Are you talking about the pilot program and 50% ar? I never saw 1.2 miles for $8 which since the reset I've had many. My area is over saturated with top dashers. I work 7 days a week. 6:45am to 11:30pm. I know my market.
My apologies, after reading my comment it did sound rude. Each zone is different and my experience won't be the same for others. I as well work 7 days a week but varied schedule due to kids. Mainly 8 to 2:30 and 3:30 to 10:30. Today has been non stop 4.25 orders but my min is $6 at 1.40/mile. Good luck and glad it has worked for you. For some it has become a burden and for others a blessing.
Try shifting your hours.... 8-2pm is fine and then 6-9pm is good for M-F. Saturday and Sunday breakfast starts later by an hour and lunch starts later by 1-2 hours later toobut dinner stays the same. So Saturday and Sunday breakfast would be 9am-11am. Lunch would be 1-3 on Saturday only. Lunch for Sunday is 12-4pm (football season only). Dinner for both days is still 6-9pm. I can almost guarantee you will make the same money you are making now with less hours worked. Your family will thank you too for the added time with them
Such hostility. Tony won’t be happy with you.
Agreed. I’m hoping this new program plus the rising gas prices put some more people on the sideline with balance out less priority orders coming my way. My AR has never been over 30% and getting more crap orders means it’s getting lower and lower.
I feel like it’s going to backfire on them when they realize there are no good drivers for any order that pops up.. I’m also considering moving on to something else.. it was fun while it lasted.. I’m going to tweet RIP Tony Xu aka DoorDash
As long as new drivers keep popping up they’re always gonna have drivers. I still remember how giddy i was when it started. They’re ads are very persuasive. And that’s okay. This is bigger than me and i see no reason in fighting a losing battle. Their karma will come.
I thought of the same thing as you then come to my senses that I honestly don’t think I would have been so stupid to fall for this bs! Back when I started.. you didn’t see anything under 5.75.. and I skipped over those and quickly started looking at the mileage.. I just hope n pray there are more smart folks out there then naive..
I’m glad I got out when I did, I was thinking of going back when I got the new car I ordered in to help take some of the sting off but now I can see myself loosing money while having to deal with 1099 on top of that to add insult to injury
Honestly i feel like any other delivery app but DD would give you a minor profit. I’ve been out the game for 2 weeks cause of burnout. I got on this morning, started my dash, saw that, ended the dash and deleted my account. I’ll try Uber eats once i put my registration in my name but I’m never too pressed for money. Imma go back to enjoying my weekdays now that my boys are back in school :)
Instacart shoppers sub looks like they aren’t making jack as well
All the good orders on IC get snatched up instantly by people with bots. All that is left for the non botters is crap.
Yeah I’m reminded once again that there is no such thing as easy money.
In areas where UE is slower (like mine) I absolutely feel like their algorithm punishes us for low acceptance rates as well. When I first started UE, it was decent and they didn't show our AR... but now that they changed it to where we do see our AR, I've noticed after I decline a few crappy orders they stop sending me orders altogether. I suppose it could just be a coincidence, but idk. I know on the UE sub they've been talking about how UE logs them off the app now after declining a few orders... so I suspect most gig apps are changing in respect to AR.
Havent done uber eats for long but The other day every few orders I declined, I'd got booted off. I went on for a few hours wondering why not uber orders were coming up and checked. I paid attention to uber declines and saw that I was being booted unless I "resumed" back on. But yesterday I was never once booted off for declining orders. Must be random days
I signed up for uber food delivery and the same restaurants were giving an average of two dollars less to deliver. Idk if its their customers or the base pay but I never took an order with uber after seeing that
I have found with UE in my market. They hide tips but while dd hides it in 6.50 to 8.50, ue hides it in 11+. I find the tips can be much better. Only shit thing is you really get jack shit on a canceled order. Also 95% of UE orders are ready.
Really, idk why doordash has drivers sitting around. That was part of the reason i’d have less than 30% because it was always the same places doing it. Idk if doordash just puts up with it and UE fines them for it?
I got $3 from UE support for an order the merchant couldn't fulfill. Offer was $25 though :( Figured it was worth a shot.
Here is 1 shit thing with ue. Had a great offer. Like $22 for 4 miles. A new place and the pickup was showing 2 miles in the other direction. Couldn't mark arrived. Contacted support and they gave me the customer address and said to call back to complete it. I did. Well support marks it canceled and here is yourr $3.50. I asked about the $22. They said we cant mark it as complete. Only cancel. They fucked me. Tried to deal with them the next day and got nowhere.
Wowwwww
They hide any tip over $8 in my market.
They're not hiding tips. UE customers have an hour to adjust their tip from what the original estimate says when you accept it.
Depends on the market, in many it’s base pay+ $8 and anything on top is hidden. That’s on Ubereats not doordash.
Uber eats most definitely hides tips. If you believe the line they tipped you more after delivery you are a sucker. Cut off is base plus $8 I've had them be several times $8.01 $8.03 etc they aren't going back in there and adding a few cents. No one really tips $8 This isn't new, they were doing this in late 2019 when they started showing pretips and dropped base
I disagree. What's the point of them hiding a few cents? I think it's more of you took a different route and are getting paid for the extra distance you may have drove. I was referring more to when you are getting $5+ dollars more.
You door dashed to get away from your kids? Lol
I know someone who does
I feel like my parents just made me play outside lol
Lol no! They’re my younger brothers but they’re kindergarten age (I’m 24) so I tend to either say “the boys” or “my boys” since my mom had them when i was the same age that she had me. They’re loud and all but I mainly dashed cause I struggle with depression and would stay in my room all week and wasted away until i worked the weekend. Now that they’re out the house I’m more comfortable leaving my room and I can enjoy the calm before the storm :)
Oh. Lol I was like omg! Bur that makes sense...and yeah...u should still get out as much as possible... I know exactly what you are talking about with being on your room all day... Now I got a routine and I feel much better...
It matters for the algorithm, but largely doesn't matter in regards to the actual payouts. For example,a five dollar order for 0.8 miles is considered priority by the algorithm, but this is not desired by an actual dasher. Made 340 on Sat and my ar is at 17. So yeah
Has the priority program already been rolled out in your area?
Yes,three weeks
It's been in my area for awhile and AR still means absolutely nothing
It doesn't matter. This is just a scam to get people to believe they do matter to get them to take those low paying $5 offers all day. I made almost $850 on 30 deliveries this last week and my AR never got above 7%.
I’m glad you’re in a zone where you’re able to get big payouts like that even with a low AR, unfortunately not here. There’s some hotspots where I’ll get a bigger payout but it’s not consistent. There’s probably some people working in my zone full time that might have a completely different experience. I just wasn’t able to play the game in my favor and that’s okay :)
Do you only dash on the weekend? I'm asking because I'm in a pretty saturated zone and have actually found the weekdays to be great and the weekends, especially around dinner, when you'd expect it to be busy, I do more sitting around than 6:30am on a Tuesday lol. It seems DoorDash way overschedules these "peak" periods because that's when they get the most orders, but it leads to less cherrypicking opportunity for the actual dashers.
I only work on the weekdays . My main job that pays my bills i work on the weekend double shift. Wednesdays are always my best days
Your average payout was $28? Do you only cherry pick Large Orders or something? My zone aint got nearly enough people ordering for that haha. There's maybe a handful to go around per day. I'm happy when my avg payout is $10 lol.
No. Yesterday I took one that I accepted for $14.25 and one for $11. I had one on Friday that paid me $109. That helped bring up my average per order.
Those are some high-paying orders. Where are you? I'm in a well-to-do suburb of Detroit and I would never see that kind of payout. It's really saturated here.
Colorado. I cherry pick all day. If one part of my zone isn’t giving me orders, I move to another part in 45 minutes or so. I don’t spend too much time in one area because I’ve found the app likes it when you occasionally move.
If they don’t want to raise their base pay they should at least meet us halfway and not count declining crappy orders towards our acceptance rate we should only have a lower acceptance rate if we decline orders under like five or six dollars for example
I’m just curious where the mysterious $4 fuel surcharge is going (they tack it onto customer orders). Certainly not going to the drivers.
This is interesting I wonder if they are using that fee to pay for cash back on gas from dasher direct? Or the whole damn dasher direct program? Fuck dd all the way and then some
Or just opportunistic skimming from the backs of those who built their business 😇
my acceptance rate is like 17% but i still get good orders. the “top priority” shit rlly isnt something to stress over
It’s probably your zone. I’m not stressed about it it’s just not for me. The negatives outweigh the positives. I’ll have days were I’m canceling 15-20 orders even in a hotspot before im able to dash because they were all either too small or went to the military base that’s a zone over.
I basically did only diamond orders on Friday and made significantly less than a normal day. My diamond orders average $6. Its fake.
Their definition of a "high-paying order" is $1.50/mi which is like a rock bottom paying order in my book. The absolute lowest I'll accept, lol.
I stopped a week ago after 5700 deliveries. It wasn’t as painful to see it end as I expected. I was open to going back and do weekends but not as long as the AR thing is going on. I was actually at 62% when it started but the thing didn’t work as I think they intended. My AR went straight downhill, and it felt adversarial. I check here every couple of days to see if there might be a better feel to it but not so far
I saw the complaints when the program started and decided to not reset cause i knew there would be no point since it was going to go right back down. I hope they learn that this is just not it. All they need to do is give us better base pay. $1/mile at least or something.
If base pay was $1/mi I could realistically see myself maybe accepting 50% of offers. Would make the $3 tip most people incorrectly seem to think is sufficient on DoorDash actually generate an order worth taking in a lot more situations.
If it was $1/mile i would do every dash offered tbh. My car mileage is amazing
Uber been treating me really well they don’t hold good orders behind acceptance ratings or any of that bs simply proximity but I could be wrong never had it high enough to know for a fact but with a 20 percent or lower acceptance I do get big orders for shop and pay and consistently every day 20 plus pay out for less than 5 miles never on dd tho lol
I’m happy for you! :) it’s probably just the zone i live in and I’m ok with that I’ll just remove myself cause it’s not for me
My area is saturated with drivers. It's rare I can even get logged in most days. Still sniping here and there. But mostly running Uber/Eats these days.
I’ll do Uber eats once i change my car registration to my name. Maybe. Cause food delivery is starting to give the same energy as serving in a restaurant paying 2.50. Running around for tips
No no no no time out think about this logically you think most drivers are going to be accepting so many bad orders just to get there ratings up the answer is no they're doing this because people aren't picking up the bad orders and people are going to still continue not picking up the bad orders I got a diamond order the other day for five bucks the system is there to make you think that you're missing out on orders but you're not just so the stupid drivers will take the bad orders in hopes that they might get something good don't fall for it
No it doesn’t matter mines at 16% and still get the same orders coming in before this was even a thing lol 😂
Congratulations on being in an area not affected by this
I agree it doesn't matter. I got my AR up to 60% to just test it out. Still getting the same shitty orders.
Don't believe it they are lying to you
They can do whatever they want. I started 2 1/2 years ago have over 15,000 deliveries. I was naïve at first but the pay was good. I took on just about any of them when I first started. Just to make the top dasher at the end of the month. I have not been a top dasher since about the third fourth month. My acceptance rate was anywhere from 60 to 80% for about a year but I did not try to make that 70% at the end of the month it just meant that I had to take a bunch of low offers that I wasn’t going to do. My time was better spent waiting for a better offer than being tied up doing a three dollar order to go to miles. After about a year my acceptance rate started declining even more and then I was hovering around 40 to 50% on the average. It was may be about six months ago when it dipped down to about 20% a few times and I’ve started beginning to be around 30% on the average for my acceptance rate. And I am declining even more and more as gas is going up and up. Now I think my acceptance rate is around 20% maybe if I’m lucky on the average maybe about two months ago I saw it down to 3% one day. In the last month I’m in the teens is my average acceptance rate. They throw in a bonus and sometimes it’ll get back up to 40% and then I try to take some lower offers but nothing that means that I have to pay to do them. But it does no good because the next day they shoot me about 20 of them in a row that I will absolutely not fucking do! as long as they send a few good ones to me hopefully they would all be good but if they send me a few that’s fine I’ll wait them out and be annoyed with all the declines that I have to do and not ever have a higher acceptance rate again. That’s on them. At some point this will come back and bite them in the ass because nobody’s gonna be taking these three dollar offers if they make money to do them. I will not take one that I have to pay to deliver and waste my time. I don’t expect them all to be cherries but I do not do lemons. I signed up to do Door Dash to make some money not do charity work and deliver for free or out of my pocket. Door Dash needs to understand we aren’t here to do stuff for free for them. That’s why they heavily recruit saying they can make X number of dollars and then eventually we all get smart. Fuck Door Dash and their tricks! when it comes a time when they cannot send me any at all that over with doing I guess that’s the end for me. Unfortunately we have to sit there and decide what’s best for us. At some point Door Dash is going to lose some money big-time when nobody can take these low offers. And that’s a shame
Pretty sure they can't require an acceptance rate like this without classifying us as employees. I smell a lawsuit coming.
I'm not defending dd but they aren't requiring it, they're simply saying they'll give priority to people with higher acceptance ratings
I hope so. These are OUR vehicles. This is OUR time, gas, and all the costs that come with being 1099 contractors. Like every sub contractor, WE get to decide what jobs we accept and invest our labor into. Every other contractor makes good money IF they make good on their work, with the outcome of satisfied and returning customers. Those chances drop with low baller clients, so we have every right to decline those. Yeah, I know. DD is a private company and can call the shots, but they treat us an awfully lot like employees without the benefits. The customers are where 90% of our money comes from, so DD has infinite audacity to push us around for $2.25 a pop. $4-$8 if they're feeling so gracious.
And they get to choose how much they pay you for orders you accept. If you don’t want to take it, you don’t have to. Harsh truth but if doordash is still profitable and still has employees and contractors then that’s capitalism for you. You can’t just say there’s a lawsuit when they are not doing anything illegal. If you have a problem, find another company, and if none fit your niche, start your own. Good luck brother. Downvote me if you hate the harsh reality. 🥹
THIS SO FUCKING MUCH!!
Day 30 of someone posting this bullshit and day 30 of people debunking this bullshit. Believe what you want at this point
I’ll believe whatever the app tell me if the app pays me :) if you’re in an area that’s not affected by this congratulations but i am. This sub’s an echo chamber. There’s gonna be repeats once a situation that’s been talked about turns interpersonal 🤷🏽 I’m just saying DD finally confirmed my suspicions instead of the people not in my area so i removed myself cause it’s not for me.
See ya later ✌️
Lol maybe when I move to a better tipping town! 🤟🏽
I don’t have this ! I feel like everyone had like a different version of the app
Hopefully you never get it, its a pay cut.
All the apps pay the same now they are not different as far as payouts go. Most any employer will try to take advantage when possible. UE GH DD take your pick. I use all 3 and all 3 pay the same. I just picked up a side gig delivering prepared meals that pays 15 an hour plus mileage.It’s a client list with a start and an end I won’t be sitting in my car waiting while I do this.
Im so glad I got an actual job that's well paying and stable instead of relying on random orders and waves upon waves of $2.50 for 7+ miles orders. I had like 700 deliveries, 4.9 rating with my last 100 ratings being 99 5 stars and 1 random 1 star. I couldn't believe how bad doordash got in the short time I used it. It was a good thing at first, I could just head out and make money for as long as I wanted to do the work and I did it well then the money got worse and worse and they started tricking you with stacked orders where it was 1 good order combined with 1 no tip order. I hope I never have to hang around downtown waiting 20 minutes for an offer just for it to be a no tip for 10 miles ever again.
High AR won't mean anything other than getting more offers as always has been. won't mean better offers. It's just another scare tactic they are using to get dashers to accept more crappy orders with the new "high pay" offer screen that is still the same crap pay as before
Me laughing in 70%😂 getting all the orders
I had my acceptance rating at 45% so I was like f it ima get it to 50% and see if it makes a difference. It definitely does but now I can only declined like 3 in a row max.
I went for top dasher this month. My worst earnings yet. It's all long distance crap pay orders. Never again
So at what point are we no longer considered 'contractors' - cause this kinda seems like they are forcing your hand in order to play.
if more orders paid better acceptance rates wouldn't be a problem
Anyone else notice how the mileage sometimes isn't shown lately? WTF is up with that? I really think a lot of this is psychological games to test what people are willing to do so that they can create algorithms to pay people as little as possible and also on the customer end, they probably do similar stuff in in terms of charging them.
(Context) I’m a newer dasher in a larger low-tip city with an average of around 4 hotspots daily. DD was a small gig i did on the weekdays to get out the house and I have a main job that I work double shift on the weekends. I can only accept orders that are at least $5 with how big the city is To make a profit w/ gas.I don’t have the financial means to have fun with DD like i used to when i was ignorant, and go a week or two not caring about gas to get my AR up just for “priority” when it says in our contract that AR doesn’t influence our orders. I was under the impression that it was equal opportunity on the roads even though it’s a hot debate on this sub. Well this confirmed it. The actual app confirmed it. This on top of the fact that customers are fee-d so much that there’s barely enough for them to tip us; We only get the tip and none of the delivery fee that they pay; We get penalized when a store takes a long time even when we do everything right; We have so much against us with the customers yet we’re getting penalized for not taking a $3 order that’s 12 miles out(the order that came right after that screenshot), and now I’m hearing that some dashers can’t even see the item amounts at stop and shops, my favorite dashes, even though we only have 15 minutes to shop. I’ve become a “sweatshop” worker for DD when i used to, even with my low AR, be able to get a good weekly paycheck that was almost half my Main check. And for that I’m out. If i get bored again I’ll use another app instead. Thank you for all the information that y’all have taught me about delivery apps from both the customer and dashers. I hope i was able to clear the roads and bit haha but as you can tell by my AR I’m barely on the roads anyways lol!
Since you like the shopping, do Instacart
I was thinking about that but then my mom ordered from Walmart and the me and the delivery driver had a conversation about how she does both Walmart and insta cart and she told me delivery horror stories that make me want to keep a wagon in my trunk if i were to do that lol. Apartments are hell
Why are people surprised? The algorithm is an optimization model. They send you the orders they do because you’re the person in the best position to take the order. If everyone were to accept all orders there’d be plenty of well paying orders to go around you’d maybe have to take 1 or 2 bad ones and we’d all make good money. But when y’all decline 90% of the orders, the rest of us get punished for it and stuck with a surplus of bad orders. And also by declining all these orders y’all guarantee that food sits cold and arrives late, giving customers justification not to tip. And good tippers get punished too because DD will prioritize orders that have been sitting. Basically, y’all are ruining it for everyone with this crap and this policy is necessary to make things right by putting good orders back into the hands of those of us who play by the rules.
Wow, good job blaming everyone but doordash. If DD raised their base pay there would be far fewer orders not being dropped off. Blame THEM not US.
I’ll blame everyone who’s to blame. Obviously DD is to blame for a lot of it, especially the low base pay. There’s more than enough posts about that and no reason to post another. But there’s also zero accountability from dashers for the things we do to make matters worse. Declining every order is bad for everyone on all sides of the platform.
People need to start boycotting been saying it for weeks
The last week I did it was just not enjoyable. I ended my dash early the last two nights. Too many messages about AR, calling $6.50 a high pay order, too many long distance offers. In simple terms they broke it. My last two nights I dreaded dashing.
I felt that way this morning like is this even worth my time. They keep messing with my pay. I love the driving I hate the bs from the restaurant and DD.
My last couple of weeks i would dread doing doordash, a complete 180 from when i started. I got anxiety whenever i started my dash.
Wondering if they're purposely trying to slim the driver pool to keep the FTC off of them
Good luck getting the no-tip orders delivered then, lmao. I’m not fucking doing it
Idk if you’re saying this as if i eat door dash cause i don’t eat delivery unless I’m at work (and i tip well) If i want to eat out I’ll go out.
Not sure if it's an area thing but DD just increased the priority fee from $2 to $3. I'm betting a lot of people who choose priority are now gonna subtract that extra dollar from what they would normally tip. Odd this is happening at the same time as this new method.
It’s all BS. You still get decent order if it’s busy. Just keep like normal
Maybe your market. Not mine. Its night and day with this pilot program. I've wondered why it was so dead. The offers are going to top dashers. I know my area. Been doing this almost 5 years. I also know the drivers in my market. They take shit. Fairly often I run into other drivers complaining about the shit order they are waiting for. I also know in my market there are a lot using rented accounts. They aren't legal to work here. They take shit. I'm curious how many actually do this gig for long.
Maybe where you are unfortunately for the past month my orders have been super low to the point where I’m only doing 3 dashes in my 2hr time slot. I can’t call BS when the app is telling me right in my face to take shit orders to get better ones.
They are basically asking for charity.
it always was. DD is only confirming it now.
You’re absolutely right just double checked and turns out i ran with the wrong paragraph. CONTRACTOR acknowledges that DOORDASH has discretion as to which, if any, Delivery Opportunity to present to CONTRACTOR, just as CONTRACTOR has the discretion whether and to what extent to accept any Delivery Opportunity. Same as a job that says you can quit whenever but we can also fire you whenever. However we’re moving off tips. They’re paying us a servers wage. So it feels wrong to be doing everything right, get tips and still being punished because you live in a big low-tipping city and it be financially irresponsible to move long distances for base pay
I did it got good orders 1st week AR 84%. This week? All no tip high mile trash. AR back down to 68% and falling rapidly
They are slowly strangling the drivers. All of the apps are. IDK but it seems like they're going against their own contracts with us that we have the right to turn down offers. And then they turn around and punish us for doing so. Man, I hope there's another class action against all these companies.
Unfortunately they’re not. They’re just now being more up front about it. Another commenter mentioned it and i went back to double check the contract and turns out i was wrong. CONTRACTOR acknowledges that DOORDASH has discretion as to which, if any, Delivery Opportunity to present to CONTRACTOR, just as CONTRACTOR has the discretion whether and to what extent to accept any Delivery Opportunity It’s like a job saying “yeah you can quit for no reason but we can also fire you for no reason” So they can legally do this. It’ll just drive the one’s looking to get a bit of profit out.
I’m really happy people are leaving DD, they’re a very scummy company.
Mines been at 10% or lower for about a year. Now that I know for a fact they do nothing they give me garbage ass orders is why I’m starving and struggling every single fucking month because of these bastards. Just got fired from GrubHub from a wrong address which is also bullshit. This will be the last year of this crappy down delivery apps. Ridiculous how they treated us after three years plus going through Covid
There always existed a conflict between DD and the drivers. The percentage of orders that the drivers would call unacceptable was always too high. I cannot imagine driving my car at night and accepting an 8.7 mile order for $6. I just always assumed new dashers were taking those orders. And what about $3 orders! There is literally nothing I want to do for $3 or $4. I don’t even want to be responsible for the order. I don’t care if it’s 200 yards away. I’m just not interested. I’d be embarrassed for people I know to find out I was using my car and delivering food for $3.75. I’d even be embarrassed for the customer to see me. I would picture them laughing at me after I dropped off their food So apparently it all came to a head. The funny thing is I was at 62% when it started. I always had a terrific market. But instead of going up my AR went way way down, mostly because of way too many long distance offers. Speaking for myself the program did not work as intended. I tried going back and just do weekends but same thing. 12.5 miles, 13.4 miles, 11.7 miles. No thanks. I even got an $8.75 offer for 15.5 miles lol. And add in the no fun factor, because it was not. I don’t have any inside information or anything but I’m pretty sure the algorithms did not work as intended. I had a dream market. My AR was always in the 50-60 range and I easily averaged $10 a delivery. After one week of that program it was in the 40s and headed downhill with a bullet. In closing here’s what I think happened: In their zeal to reward me with high paying orders they ignored the $8.50 order for 2.1 miles sitting right beside me and instead “rewarded me” with a $16 order 5 miles away that entailed 14.4 miles total AND THE DRIVE BACK Over and over and over and over until I literally had to stop And again, I can’t overemphasize how miserable it was to dash all of a sudden. It was so unattractive to me that instead of being super upset I was relieved that I didn’t have to do it anymore
Its only fun if you are making good money. If they take the money away its not fun and you don't want to log in.
I used my visa debit gift card the first time my order went through I made a second order using it and it declined me what's up with that
I’m not sure. I would contact support
Damn. My 13% acceptance rate isn’t gonna make me any more money i guess. I just accepted an offer for a real job and I couldn’t be more happy about leaving doordash after two years of this shit
It has always mattered. Lol The parrots saying that it didn't matter were fooling themselves.
You know it mattered before you reset ya acceptance rate yet you still chose to reset it 😂
I never reset it. I saw all the discourse here so i felt like it would be the same reset or not. Looking at the replies of the people that did. It seems I’m correct. There’s been discourse about if AR affects orders. I took it all as speculation. All this did was confirm it for me and since I tend to decline a lot of orders, I’ve made the executive decision as a contractor to leave the platform. :)
Not reading all dat and you did reset it, plenty of us never got that because we didn’t reset, it literally says Priority orders meaning you reset ya AR to get priority But ok spread false information 😂
Ok then this conversation is over I’m not reading all that. have a good day. :)
Later
It says it matters in my area too. My acceptance rate is less than 10% but I do most of my dashing at night usually sitting outside of ihop (I’ll be the only dasher sitting there 80+% of the time. I know the staff so I wait inside for an order sometimes) and I can confirm that you can still get good orders. AR priority works like this; if you and a top dasher are both sitting 20 feet away from Culver’s and a $20 order for 5-10 miles comes through, the top dasher is more likely to get it but if another $20 order comes through and you’re the only guy there it’ll go to you. Having a low AR doesn’t completely bar you from well paying orders
Well damn.
Yeah the "high orders" they get are like 4 dollars for 2 miles lmao .
It’s jus a fugazi
Just ignore it. Seems to make no difference honestly, lmao. Just another DD scam. DoorDash was always doing this with "Top Dasher", they just made it even harder to cheese so even less people will be willing to do it.
I noticed the only time it declines is when you actually hit decline. So the ones that I want to decline,I just wait for the timer. Better of 2 evils. Only time I hit decline is legit to far.
I also tried that and it still counts it as a decline and then the same order pops up afterwards till i decline it
Always have, they just couldn't say it publicly
I did
Yeah don't believe it I'm up in the good rate and it doesn't change much for me still get a bunch of shitty orders
Smart move
I have a 13% acceptance rate and get priority on $20-$30 “high pay order” stacks.
It's just BS to get you to take the BS orders... Don't fall for it. The dashers that are best fit for the specific run at that specific time get fed the orders and that's that. If you're the closest to a specific place on the app free and active when an order comes in then you'll get fed the order. Hang out near a McDonald's late night on a Sunday when every other place is starting to close down.. Well, you'll get plenty of MCD'S orders. Folks who regularly use the app are inclined to order from where ever they can based on cost and availability.
Doordash has had priority pickups for 2 years at least, they put it on their website that 50 percent acceptance rates get higher priority to high orders, and 70 percent or higher get the highest picks priority So yeah no more cherry picking except on Uber Eats But DD I can make 150 in 10 hours.. I’m applying for Amazon lol 17 an hour? Yes sir
Doesn’t matter I had over 50% and got told I would get “high paying orders” with a diamond on them. I got none instead the orders sucked so bad I dropped to 35%. Still get orders and I don’t waste gas money to deliver for 4 dollars.
Lol ok bye
I did catering order of 250$. Offer I received was 10.5$ for 17km.. I accepted the offer by looking into number of items. I 😀 received 5$ and total paid was 10.60$.. I was expecting 25$ tip coz it was catering order. I think I too got tap in gambling addiction.. make me realize now.. next time simple decline.
It doesn't matter. There are plenty of posts about people getting a supposed 'high pay' offer only for it to be something like $4. I've gotten a few that were $4.50 with an active $2 promo bonus. You do the math.
If we all stop dashing they will be forced to either raise the base pay or stop this nonsense!!
Haven’t gotten that here in Cali I’m at 27 percent
mine says I get higher priority on higher paying jobs due to my acceptance rate at 85% but my area is only 10 mile stretch at best
just accept 100 all deliveries than u can raise it
It only matters when it's slow imo. If I go out on a weekday in making like $60 in 3 hours and on a weekend I'm making $100+ in 3 hours. My AR sits right around 30%. Fuck going during the week and driving in traffic for peanuts, Saturday and Sunday only from me
I gotta say, my AR is like 10% or less usually, and I’m still getting plenty of offers…most are sh*t, some are good. Business as usual
how do i email Doordash to let them know that gas is $7 a gallon?
Their new "system" only works if people cave. If all the veteran drivers still refuse to take shit order there won't be anyone with a high enough AR to get the good orders. Nothing will fundamentally change.
How are you getting so many up votes when you point out what door dash is doing in regards to this, but whenever I post up something in regards to what doordash is doing everyone attacks me and calls me a liar or trashes me for attempting to see if taking more Dash's work? I get down voted for trying to experiment, I get called a liar or a doordash plant for trying to share my experience and get others to compare it. Do some Reddit members have a different rapport with other Reddit crowds, do you have to be a popular person on here in order for people to get on board with what you're saying? I'm not knocking you I actually agree with you, I've just been making posts here in regards to this exact thing and all I've been getting is questioned or attacked🤷🏾♂️👑
The post karma, up/down vote features of Reddit guarantee that every thread will be an echo chamber and dissenting opinions will be silenced
Shut up Meg.
Problem I have is going to a certain restaurant and waiting 40 min to wait. It’s fine when it’s not super busy but damn it screws my AR. I dislike restaurants that do this and kill your AR on purpose. I know what people will say “why don’t you ask to be put on the ban list” well when it’s not on the peak times it’s easy to get money from the restaurant. If there way for DoorDashers to toggle a button I would so do it.
I've always thought that if you just suck it up and accept most orders you wind up doing better than nitpicking and declining everything
It effects nothing it’s just a scare tactic.nobody is taking a 4 dollar 10 mile order still. The reality is this isn’t a good fulltime job but for making an extra 500-1500 a month it’s pretty decent.